Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 08/26/11 7:22 PM, Always Learning wrote: > http://www.imagemagick.org/ > > > Does anyone have suggestions for a GUI which works for Centos 5.6 ? > In production I run the command line program from PHP with 'exec'. imagemagick is a batch oriented utility.putting a gui wrapper on a batch program inevitably ends up with something clunky and not usable. for GUI image editing, you want to use something interactive like Gimp. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 19:46 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > imagemagick is a batch oriented utility.putting a gui wrapper on a > batch program inevitably ends up with something clunky and not usable. > > for GUI image editing, you want to use something interactive like Gimp. I wanted to explore all the options and see the effects in a GUI application rather than laboriously type-in the parameters on the command line then double-click on the latest photograph to see the effects. Paul. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 08/26/11 7:50 PM, Always Learning wrote: > I wanted to explore all the options and see the effects in a GUI > application rather than laboriously type-in the parameters on the > command line then double-click on the latest photograph to see the > effects. but there's a nearly infinite number of possible combinations of the options, and the order you specify transforms can have an effect on the output, how would you represent this in a GUI ? -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:12:28PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 08/26/11 7:50 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > I wanted to explore all the options and see the effects in a GUI > > application rather than laboriously type-in the parameters on the > > command line then double-click on the latest photograph to see the > > effects. Two possibilities come to mind. One, the display command, also part of the ImageMagick suite will display the picture. If you click on said picture, a menu pops up. In that menu are many options. Second possibility, type in the commands and put all your output into one directory. When you've made your different pictures, install feh with yum install feh. Then, you can type feh and hit the n (as in next) key. This will go through the pictures, showing a new one each time you hit the next key. The real advantage of convert and other commands is the fact that they are typed commands. For example, at an old job, a graphic artist was given a bunch of pictures. She had to resize them, often dozens at a time, and the only way she knew how to do it was in photoshop, one by one. Now _that_ was laborious. When she mentioned it to me, I had her drop them in a directory on a server and I would run a script to resize them. Anyway, good luck with it. The whole ImageMagick suite is extremely userful. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Angel: I'm weak. I've never been anything else. I wanted to lose myself in you. I know it will cost me my soul, and part of me didn't care. It's not the demon in me that needs killing, Buffy, it's the man. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 08/26/11 9:34 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > The real advantage of convert and other commands is the fact that they > are typed commands. For example, at an old job, a graphic artist was > given a bunch of pictures. She had to resize them, often dozens at a > time, and the only way she knew how to do it was in photoshop, one by > one. Now_that_ was laborious. > > When she mentioned it to me, I had her drop them in a directory on a > server and I would run a script to resize them. photoshop has a very powerful macro and batch facility. you can interactively create a complex series of operations as a macro, then run it on a bunch of files but thats neither here nor there. certainly not CentOS related. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
At Sat, 27 Aug 2011 03:22:54 +0100 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > I accidentally discovered 'convert'. It is a command line utility. > Changing a file from png to gif works like this > > convert aaa.png aaa.gif > > Amazingly simple, powerful and effective. > > I've since discovered it has an amazing list of options > > convert --help > > a manual > > file:///usr/share/doc/ImageMagick-6.2.8/www/convert.html > > and a web site > > http://www.imagemagick.org/ > > > Does anyone have suggestions for a GUI which works for Centos 5.6 ? > In production I run the command line program from PHP with 'exec'. ImageMagick includes its own GUI: man display And see: man ImageMagick for a complete list of ImageMagick programs. The GUI is rather basic -- it is not meant as a anything like a replacement for the likes of GIMP or xv or any of the other other image display and manipulation programs out there. ImageMagick is meant to be a *CLI* workhorse. > > > Thank you, > > Paul. > > > Currently automatically, rotating when necessary, downsizing photographs > to 900 pixels wide (the software calculates the height) and labelling > them with the file reference and photograph date - all in one quick > operation. Mind boggling options, more than I've ever seen in similar > software. > > Really amazed :-) > > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 07:51 -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > ImageMagick includes its own GUI: > > man display > > And see: > > man ImageMagick > > for a complete list of ImageMagick programs. > > The GUI is rather basic -- it is not meant as a anything like a > replacement for the likes of GIMP or xv or any of the other other > image display and manipulation programs out there. ImageMagick > is meant to be a *CLI* workhorse. Thank you for mentioning Display ... a friendly wizard has appeared inviting me to experiment. Previously I tried man convert but your suggestion of man ImageMagick gives a lot more information. I use IM as an extremely useful CLI 'workhorse' via PHP Exec. With so many possibilities, it is very time consuming manually trying the effects from the command line interface. My most recent achievement was to extract and superimpose the Exif date and time. Paul. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 21:12 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > but there's a nearly infinite number of possible combinations of the > options, and the order you specify transforms can have an effect on the > output, how would you represent this in a GUI ? I am not writing a GUI for it. However a useful GUI could show the effects of making simple changes - perhaps one change at a time - not multiple changes. This would show new users what commands actually do and the relevant CLI instructions. You are correct about the order of commands altering the output. The commands are performed sequentially, left to right. It is impressive software. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/27/11, Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 21:12 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > >> but there's a nearly infinite number of possible combinations of the >> options, and the order you specify transforms can have an effect on the >> output, how would you represent this in a GUI ? > > I am not writing a GUI for it. However a useful GUI could show the > effects of making simple changes - perhaps one change at a time - not > multiple changes. This would show new users what commands actually do > and the relevant CLI instructions. > > You are correct about the order of commands altering the output. The > commands are performed sequentially, left to right. It is impressive > software. > > > -- > With best regards, > > Paul. > England, > EU. > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Sorry. Do you mean having a complete image processing toolbox ,like MATLAB image processing toolbox, on centos? Do we have such a powerful tool on centos? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/27/11, Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 21:12 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > >> but there's a nearly infinite number of possible combinations of the >> options, and the order you specify transforms can have an effect on the >> output, how would you represent this in a GUI ? > > I am not writing a GUI for it. However a useful GUI could show the > effects of making simple changes - perhaps one change at a time - not > multiple changes. This would show new users what commands actually do > and the relevant CLI instructions. > > You are correct about the order of commands altering the output. The > commands are performed sequentially, left to right. It is impressive > software. > > > -- > With best regards, > > Paul. > England, > EU. > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > I have experience working with MATLAB image processing toolbox. I found GIMP very powerful ,especially in its tools for 'selecting image foreground/background' that is not so simply available even in MATLAB toolbox. But unfortunately, my centos 5.6 built-in GIMP is too old (GIMP 2.2) that does not have these new tools. I didn't find any straightforward procedure on how to migrate to GIMP 2.4/2.6 . Don't you ? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 08/27/2011 03:22 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > I accidentally discovered 'convert'. It is a command line utility. > Changing a file from png to gif works like this This is a mailing list, a conversational forum. not a blog or a documentaion forum. If you want to contribute such stuff productively, do so in the wiki, where it would be appreciated and actually worthwhile. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 13:33 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > This is a mailing list, a conversational forum. not a blog or a > documentaion forum. If you want to contribute such stuff productively, > do so in the wiki, where it would be appreciated and actually worthwhile. Good idea. Thank you. Any news of those tee-shirts please ? -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 08/28/2011 01:37 PM, Always Learning wrote: > Any news of those tee-shirts please ? > Yes! will post details. Its taken be a bit of time to get costs for shipping worked out for all the various parts of the world. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/28/11, Always Learning wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 13:33 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > >> This is a mailing list, a conversational forum. not a blog or a >> documentaion forum. If you want to contribute such stuff productively, >> do so in the wiki, where it would be appreciated and actually worthwhile. > > Good idea. Thank you. > > Any news of those tee-shirts please ? > > > > > -- > With best regards, > > Paul. > England, > EU. > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:53 AM, hadi motamedi wrote: > > I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new > featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I > don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my > previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? > > Because you didn't install it. Please at least attempt to check these things out before you run crying to the list -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 16:23 +0430, hadi motamedi wrote: > I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new > featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I > don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my > previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? I'm still on Centos 5.6. What happens when you type-in:- yum install gimp Paul. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/29/11, Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 16:23 +0430, hadi motamedi wrote: > >> I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new >> featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I >> don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my >> previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? > > I'm still on Centos 5.6. > > What happens when you type-in:- > >yum install gimp > > > Paul. > > > -- > With best regards, > > Paul. > England, > EU. > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Sorry. I asked and it seems that the GIMP new features just come with centos 6 . ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 09:45 -0700, hadi motamedi wrote: > On 8/29/11, Always Learning wrote: > > What happens when you type-in:- > > > > yum install gimp > Sorry. I asked and it seems that the GIMP new features just come with centos > 6 . Have you got GIMP in your Centos 6 ? Paul. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/29/11, Jim Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:53 AM, hadi motamedi wrote: > >> >> I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new >> featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I >> don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my >> previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? >> >> > Because you didn't install it. Please at least attempt to check these things > out before you run crying to the list > > -- > During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary > act. > George Orwell > Sorry . You mean installing its rpm packages from the centos 6 install cd via 'rpm -Uvh *' ? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:49 AM, hadi motamedi wrote: >>> I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new >>> featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I >>> don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my >>> previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? >>> >>> >> Because you didn't install it. Please at least attempt to check these things >> out before you run crying to the list >> > Sorry . You mean installing its rpm packages from the centos 6 install > cd via 'rpm -Uvh *' ? You almost always want yum to resolve package dependencies for you instead of executing rpm directly for installs or updates. Rpm will tell you about the dependencies but not do anything else helpful like finding and installing the needed libraries. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
At Mon, 29 Aug 2011 12:37:45 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:49 AM, hadi motamedi wrote: > > >>> I upgraded from centos 5.6 to centos 6.0 to have all of the new > >>> featues on GIMP at hand. I selected Desktop when installing. But I > >>> don't see it under Applications -> Graphics as I had it under my > >>> previous centos 5.6 . Can you please let me know why? > >>> > >>> > >> Because you didn't install it. Please at least attempt to check these > >> things > >> out before you run crying to the list > >> > > > Sorry . You mean installing its rpm packages from the centos 6 install > > cd via 'rpm -Uvh *' ? > > You almost always want yum to resolve package dependencies for you > instead of executing rpm directly for installs or updates. Rpm will > tell you about the dependencies but not do anything else helpful like > finding and installing the needed libraries. And you really, really don't what to install *every* RPM on the install CD/DVD. In some cases there are 'mutually exclusive' packages (or pairs of packages where installing both makes no sense, like more than one SMTP daemon, etc.). Most of the time installing *both* mysql AND postgresql makes no sense -- you can do it and sometimes it is needful and proper to have two (or even more) database servers running at the same time, just most of the time most people are not going to do that. OTOH it can be useful to have a selection of PDF viewers or text editors. > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/29/11, Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 09:45 -0700, hadi motamedi wrote: > >> On 8/29/11, Always Learning wrote: > >> > What happens when you type-in:- >> > >> > yum install gimp > >> Sorry. I asked and it seems that the GIMP new features just come with >> centos 6 . > > Have you got GIMP in your Centos 6 ? > > > Paul. > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Sorry. My centos 6.0 does not come up with GIMP as built-in . I just see its rpm on the install cd. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:49 PM, hadi motamedi wrote: >>> > What happens when you type-in:- >>> > >>> > yum install gimp >> >>> Sorry. I asked and it seems that the GIMP new features just come with >>> centos 6 . >> >> Have you got GIMP in your Centos 6 ? >> > Sorry. My centos 6.0 does not come up with GIMP as built-in . I just > see its rpm on the install cd. You do understand that it is possible (and easy) to install and update software over the internet, don't you? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 08/29/11 8:49 PM, hadi motamedi wrote: > Sorry. My centos 6.0 does not come up with GIMP as built-in . I just > see its rpm on the install cd. so # yum install gimp same as any other package. CentOS6, I've noticed, installs a LOT less junk on the default installs. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?
On 8/30/11, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:49 PM, hadi motamedi > wrote: > What happens when you type-in:- > > yum install gimp >>> Sorry. I asked and it seems that the GIMP new features just come with centos 6 . >>> >>> Have you got GIMP in your Centos 6 ? >>> >> Sorry. My centos 6.0 does not come up with GIMP as built-in . I just >> see its rpm on the install cd. > > You do understand that it is possible (and easy) to install and update > software over the internet, don't you? > > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Thank you very much for your help. I installed it via yum. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
