Re: [CentOS] Possible SAN Issue

2009-05-14 Thread nate
Jim Perrin wrote:

> This is where LVM shines, because you can simply add another lun, add
> it to your lvm setup, and expand the filesystem on the fly.

Also the OP should look into thin provisioning software that may
be available for his EMC array. In some situations this can eliminate
the need for LVM. For me I still use LVM because it helps when
detecting what paths to use with MPIO. I often create larger(1-2TB)
volumes on the storage array and then create smaller logical volumes
in LVM, then when I need to expand I just expand, no need for new
LUNs. If your data access patterns don't involve large amounts of
writes and then deletes(thin provisioning dedicates storage when it
is written to), then you don't need volume management at all the
array can do it for you.

Most workloads in my experience are friendly with thin provisioning,
some are not. Some vendors have ways to reclaim deleted space as
well to put it back into the storage pool(s) for use by other
systems.

http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/column/0,294698,sid5_gci1134713,00.html

nate

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Re: [CentOS] Possible SAN Issue

2009-05-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Jim Perrin wrote:
> This is where LVM shines, because you can simply add another lun, add
> it to your lvm setup, and expand the filesystem on the fly.


Just hope that $guru didnt use fdisk to setup things, when you need to 
grow the LUN a bit.

- KB
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Re: [CentOS] Possible SAN Issue

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Perrin
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Alan Bartlett  wrote:
> Just a quick ping to the general m/l.
>
> Is there a SAN expert out there who could spare some time to have a
> look at this forum post, please?
>
> URL -- 
> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20273&forum=39

If you unmount the partition, then rescan the scsi bus it'll work.
Basically your system won't see the additional space while you're
using the partition. if you stop using it (unmount) then you can
operate on it and bring it back online.

This is where LVM shines, because you can simply add another lun, add
it to your lvm setup, and expand the filesystem on the fly.
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Re: [CentOS] Possible SAN Issue

2009-05-14 Thread Ross Walker
On May 14, 2009, at 6:48 AM, Alan Bartlett   
wrote:

> Just a quick ping to the general m/l.
>
> Is there a SAN expert out there who could spare some time to have a
> look at this forum post, please?
>
> URL -- 
> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20273&forum=39

Doing storage work is a pain, it means you are up in the middle of the  
night doing all sorts of scary stuff with the company's data.

You are going to have to reboot to see the new size because the  
partition is in use.

I highly recommend using LVM on the bare SAN volume next time.

-Ross

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