Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On Sunday, 16 March 2008, Niki Kovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Niki: Thank you, for everything you wrote! Question: Last night, for reasons completely unrelated to this problem with the microphone audio, I downloaded the .iso for the Knoppix Live CD and I have that CD. Can I troubleshoot this microphone audio settings problem, with one or more utilities on the Knoppix Live CD? If so, which ones? > One other thing. You mentioned several mixer apps, IIRC. I've seen some > Linux installs of the kitchen sink type, where people installed just > everything available on the DVD. Result: you get everything from GNOME, > KDE, XFCE, plus any other available window manager. As a result, you > also get several concurring sound systems: ALSA, OSS, Arts, and IIRC > there's something called 'esound'. It's a bit like folks installing LPR > and CUPS at the same time. When you have several pieces of software > attempting to talk to the same device, there will inevitably be conflicts. My belief is that what you wrote is dead accurate, with regard to many things and once I get the Sound working properly, I will try to get rid of what I know I am not using. However, with regard to web browsers, as one example, I find that having both Firefox and Konqueror is necessary at this time. Firefox, with the settings as liberal as I can make them, does not work properly for me, when I access Gmail on the web. Konqueror, which Gmail shows is not fully supported and does not allow access to all Gmail features on the web, works much better than Firefox there. A former Supervisor and Colleague, who uses Ubuntu, has no problem using Gmail on the web, with a later version of Firefox. OT: From what you and Dag wrote about Firefox 3, I will upgrade from CentOS 5 to 5.2, when I can get the DVD! > I've been a long-time Slackware user, and Slackware has one guiding > principle: KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid! I respect anyone who uses Slackware and I believe strongly in the "KISS" idea. > > On my CentOS desktop, I have *one* desktop environment: XFCE. One sound > system: ALSA. And one mixer app: alsamixer (I uninstalled xfce4-mixer). I install both GNOME (which I use 95% of the time) and KDE when I do clean installs. Once, I had GNOME corrupted, and I used KDE, temporarily, to keep going. KDE has many many more things than GNOME. I always use K3b and there are some other KDE Applications and Utilities that I use occasionally. > So what you could do to make things easier: establish which sound system > and sound mixer app you are using. And then get rid of the unused ones. After I find the solution to the problem, I will try to do that! It is my understanding and belief that Front Ends (GUI or Text based) that modify Linux Configuration files may do so in different ways. If the file is simple, I modify with a Text editor. One experience I had, with system-config-display (?) was that it said it was writing a new Xorg file, but, in fact, it did not. Someone else posted in this ML and Johnny or Jim said to use the command with -- rewrite or something I can't remember, as I write this. One of the things about Webmin, is that supposedly one can use it to modify Configuration files, or do it manually with a Text editor, without screwing things up. I will keep working on this microphone audio problem and if I cannot solve it, then I will post in the alsa-user at lists.sourceforge.net as Anne suggested yesterday, in 2 or 3 days! Thanks again! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
Lanny Marcus a écrit : Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx│ │ Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3,Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3│ │ View: [Playback] Capture All│ │ Item: Master │ │ │ │┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│pre 3D│▒▒│ │ │├──┤ ├──┤ └──┘ └──┘ ┌──┐ ├──┤ ├──┤ │ ││OO│ │OO││MM│ │OO│ │OO│ │ │└──┘ └──┘└──┘ └──┘ └──┘ │ │ 100<>100 100<>100 00 100<>100 100<>100 │ │ < Master >Headphon 3D Contr 3D Contr 3D ContrPCMPCM OutLine │ └──┘ Niki: I don't see anything for the microphone there! Even if you scroll to the right? Try the [CursorRight] key. Alsamixer shows only as many channels as it's capable of in one console screen. Try scrolling. Ah, yes. To unmute a channel, use the [,] key. This one deserves the Silliest Shortcut Of The Year Award :oD One other thing. You mentioned several mixer apps, IIRC. I've seen some Linux installs of the kitchen sink type, where people installed just everything available on the DVD. Result: you get everything from GNOME, KDE, XFCE, plus any other available window manager. As a result, you also get several concurring sound systems: ALSA, OSS, Arts, and IIRC there's something called 'esound'. It's a bit like folks installing LPR and CUPS at the same time. When you have several pieces of software attempting to talk to the same device, there will inevitably be conflicts. I've been a long-time Slackware user, and Slackware has one guiding principle: KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid! On my CentOS desktop, I have *one* desktop environment: XFCE. One sound system: ALSA. And one mixer app: alsamixer (I uninstalled xfce4-mixer). So what you could do to make things easier: establish which sound system and sound mixer app you are using. And then get rid of the unused ones. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Lanny Marcus wrote: Note: The Wiki for Skype needs a tiny update. http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype It's not a Beta now. Last night, I downloaded and installed skype-2.0.0.63-centos.i586.rpm The Skype web site calls this a "Gold" release. Thank you so much for reporting. However, it would be appreciated if you could report improvements to the wiki on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] so reports like this one do not get overlooked. I just made your proposed changes. Thanks again, -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 12:56 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > in GNOME: System > Preferences > Volume Control > Options > Mic. Select > There are two (2) options: Mic1 and Mic2 > > My headset has stereo headphones, but the microphone is not stereo. Is it > normal, that I would see two (2) options for the microphone? It reflects what the soundcard chipset has, not what your system actually makes available. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On 15 March 2008, Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com wrote: > It's not obvious from that. There is an alsa-users list at > alsa-user at lists.sourceforge.net. I had to go to them once with a problem > and > found that they have detailed knowledge of a lot of sound cards. The > solution to my problem wasn't obvious either - and it was a matter of finding > the channel setting to record, so similar to yours. They were very helpful. in GNOME: System > Preferences > Volume Control > Options > Mic. Select There are two (2) options: Mic1 and Mic2 My headset has stereo headphones, but the microphone is not stereo. Is it normal, that I would see two (2) options for the microphone? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On 15 March 2008, Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com wrote: >man alsamixer, /view mode controls Good suggestion! Thanks! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On 15 March 2008, Johnny Hughes johnny at centos.org wrote: >In the Gnome mixer, make sure that the "Microphone" and the "capture" >microphone icons are NOT MUTED (a red is is muted) .. also change >devices to the OSS Mixer and in the capture tab, check the microphone >icon for microphone is also not muted there. Johnny: I think I have that OK. In the Skype Options for the Sound Card, I unchecked allow Skype to change the Mixer settings. Also, I took off the 20 dB boost for the mic. In Sound Preferences > Devices > Audio Conferencing > Sound Capture > I have it set to OSS. Am I correct, to have that set to OSS? When I did a test, I got this error message: gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Unable to open device /dev/dsp for recording: Device or resource busy When I try to do a test call, with the Skype robot, when they would play back what I have recorded, I get 2 beeps, with only 1 or 2 seconds in between them. When I try that on MS Windows, there is about 10 seconds where I can listen to what I have recorded. Your time and your help are greatly appreciated as are the countless hours you devote to CentOS! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 08:42 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > Note: When alsamixer came up in the terminal window, the only view option > seems to be for > Playback, which is shown above. Should it be possible for me to get a view of > Capture too? > How? man alsamixer, /view mode controls -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On Saturday 15 March 2008 16:33, Lanny Marcus wrote: > On 15 March 2008 Johnny Hughes johnny at centos.org wrote: > Sat Mar 15 15:25:13 UTC 2008 > > >In the Gnome mixer, make sure that the "Microphone" and the "capture" > >microphone icons are NOT MUTED (a red is is muted) .. also change > >devices to the OSS Mixer and in the capture tab, check the microphone > >icon for microphone is also not muted there. > > Johnny: Thank you for replying! I will check those things, ASAP and > report back here! Lanny > > > On 15 March 2008, Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com wrote: > > > >Are you sure that there are no more channels to the right? (keyboard > >arrows to navigate, 'M' to toggle muting.) > > Anne: That helped a lot! :-) Thank you! Below is for the mic from > alsamixer. Lanny > It's not obvious from that. There is an alsa-users list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had to go to them once with a problem and found that they have detailed knowledge of a lot of sound cards. The solution to my problem wasn't obvious either - and it was a matter of finding the channel setting to record, so similar to yours. They were very helpful. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On 15 March 2008 Johnny Hughes johnny at centos.org wrote: Sat Mar 15 15:25:13 UTC 2008 >In the Gnome mixer, make sure that the "Microphone" and the "capture" >microphone icons are NOT MUTED (a red is is muted) .. also change >devices to the OSS Mixer and in the capture tab, check the microphone >icon for microphone is also not muted there. Johnny: Thank you for replying! I will check those things, ASAP and report back here! Lanny On 15 March 2008, Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com wrote: >Are you sure that there are no more channels to the right? (keyboard >arrows to navigate, 'M' to toggle muting.) Anne: That helped a lot! :-) Thank you! Below is for the mic from alsamixer. Lanny ┌──[AlsaMixer v1.0.12 (Press Escape to quit)]──┐ │ Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx │ │ Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3,Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3 │ │ View: [Playback] Capture All │ │ Item: Mic │ │ │ │ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐┌──┐ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ │ < │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ > < │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ > < │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ > < │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ > < │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ > < │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ > │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒││▒▒│ │ │ pre 3D│▒▒│ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ Mic1 │▒▒│ │ │ ├──┤ ├──┤ ├──┤ ┌──┐ ├──┤ ┌──┐ │ │ │OO│ │OO│ │OO│ │OO│ │MM│ │MM│ │ │ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ └──┘ │ │ 100<>100 100<>100100 100<>100 │ │ PCM OutLine CD < Mic >Mic Boos Mic Sele Video IEC958 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On Saturday 15 March 2008 13:42, Lanny Marcus wrote: > On 15 March 2008, Niki Kovacs contact at kikinovak.net wrote: > > > >Much closed source software has a "Gold" release. > > > >Fire up a console and launch 'alsamixer'. Check your microphone settings > >there. > > Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx > │ │ Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3,Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3 > │ │ View: [Playback] Capture All >│ │ Item: Master > │ │ > │ │┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ > ┌──┐ ┌──┐ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ > │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ > │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ > │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ > │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ > │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ >│ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ > │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > │ > │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ >│ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ > │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│pre > 3D│▒▒│ │ │├──┤ ├──┤ └──┘ └──┘ ┌──┐ ├──┤ >├──┤ │ ││OO│ │OO││MM│ > │OO│ │OO│ │ │└──┘ └──┘└──┘ > └──┘ └──┘ │ │ 100<>100 100<>100 00 > 100<>100 100<>100 │ │ < Master >Headphon 3D Contr 3D > Contr 3D ContrPCMPCM OutLine │ > └── >┘ > > Niki: I don't see anything for the microphone there! > > Note: When alsamixer came up in the terminal window, the only view option > seems to be for Playback, which is shown above. Should it be possible for > me to get a view of Capture too? How? > > >In Skype, there's a small utility with a voice server, where you can > >check your sound configuration easily. > > I use their test robot to test, but when I try it with Skype for Linux, > when they are going to playback what I speak into the microphone, there's > one beep and then almost immediately, a 2nd beep. When I do that while > using Skype for windows, I can hear what I speak into the microphone. > > I get the Digest version of the ML but I will check back, online, for > further ideas today! Thank you for your very quick reply! Lanny > Are you sure that there are no more channels to the right? (keyboard arrows to navigate, 'M' to toggle muting.) Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
Lanny Marcus wrote: On 15 March 2008, Niki Kovacs contact at kikinovak.net wrote: Fire up a console and launch 'alsamixer'. Check your microphone settings there. Niki: After using alsamixer, which did not permit me to see anything about the microphone, I switched to KDE and I used kmix. The microphone seems to be set properly, according to kmix. I hope you have more ideas! TIA, Lanny In the Gnome mixer, make sure that the "Microphone" and the "capture" microphone icons are NOT MUTED (a red is is muted) .. also change devices to the OSS Mixer and in the capture tab, check the microphone icon for microphone is also not muted there. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On 15 March 2008, Niki Kovacs contact at kikinovak.net wrote: >Fire up a console and launch 'alsamixer'. Check your microphone settings >there. Niki: After using alsamixer, which did not permit me to see anything about the microphone, I switched to KDE and I used kmix. The microphone seems to be set properly, according to kmix. I hope you have more ideas! TIA, Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
On 15 March 2008, Niki Kovacs contact at kikinovak.net wrote: >Much closed source software has a "Gold" release. >Fire up a console and launch 'alsamixer'. Check your microphone settings >there. Card: Sound Fusion CS46xx│ │ Chip: Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3,Cirrus Logic CS4298 rev 3│ │ View: [Playback] Capture All│ │ Item: Master │ │ │ │┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ ┌──┐ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ > ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ ││▒▒│ │▒▒│ │ │ │ │ │▒▒│pre 3D│▒▒│ │ │├──┤ ├──┤ └──┘ └──┘ ┌──┐ ├──┤ ├──┤ │ ││OO│ │OO││MM│ │OO│ │OO│ │ │└──┘ └──┘└──┘ └──┘ └──┘ │ │ 100<>100 100<>100 00 100<>100 100<>100 │ │ < Master >Headphon 3D Contr 3D Contr 3D ContrPCMPCM OutLine │ └──┘ Niki: I don't see anything for the microphone there! Note: When alsamixer came up in the terminal window, the only view option seems to be for Playback, which is shown above. Should it be possible for me to get a view of Capture too? How? >In Skype, there's a small utility with a voice server, where you can >check your sound configuration easily. I use their test robot to test, but when I try it with Skype for Linux, when they are going to playback what I speak into the microphone, there's one beep and then almost immediately, a 2nd beep. When I do that while using Skype for windows, I can hear what I speak into the microphone. I get the Digest version of the ML but I will check back, online, for further ideas today! Thank you for your very quick reply! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS 5 - my microphone settings are incorrect
Lanny Marcus a écrit : Note: The Wiki for Skype needs a tiny update. http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype It's not a Beta now. Last night, I downloaded and installed skype-2.0.0.63-centos.i586.rpm The Skype web site calls this a "Gold" release. Much closed source software has a "Gold" release. I'm having the same problem I had when I tried to use the Skype Beta. It's not picking up audio from the microphone. The hardware works fine, when I'm using MS Windows XP, but I hate to use Windows and I use Linux, except when I want to use Skype or MS FrontPage. I believe the problem has to do with a configuration setting. I use the GNOME Desktop. In System > Preferences > Sound > Audio Conferencing > Sound Capture there are five (5) choices: (a) CS46xx (b) ALSA (c) OSS (d) test sound (e) silence and I get the following results when trying to test them: (a) test and dies (b) test and dies (c) testing pipeline and I can stop the test OK. I suspect OSS is the one to select (d) test sound = OK (e) silence Fire up a console and launch 'alsamixer'. Check your microphone settings there. In Skype, there's a small utility with a voice server, where you can check your sound configuration easily. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
