Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:03 -0700, MHR wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boot and root should be ok, but misc is probably causing problems with file managers querying fstab and hal. -Ross Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 If *I* know about it, it *can't* be a *new* feature! ;-) mhr snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:11 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:03 -0700, MHR wrote: Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 If *I* know about it, it *can't* be a *new* feature! ;-) Heh, heh - I meant feature as in the infamous Bill Gates interview with the German technology magazine, wherein he claimed that Windows has no bugs, only features that people do not understand. (You can't make this stuff up) The most interesting part to me is that the disk in question is a fixed drive in the case. On my CentOS boxes and laptops, these NEVER show up on the desktop (why would they?), only the removable media. Thanks, including for the chuckle. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 11:34 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:11 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:03 -0700, MHR wrote: Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 If *I* know about it, it *can't* be a *new* feature! ;-) Heh, heh - I meant feature as in the infamous Bill Gates interview with the German technology magazine, wherein he claimed that Windows has no bugs, only features that people do not understand. (You can't make this stuff up) The most interesting part to me is that the disk in question is a fixed drive in the case. On my CentOS boxes and laptops, these NEVER show up on the desktop (why would they?), only the removable media. If it is truly a fixed drive, then I would suggest a look at the logs (dmesg and/or messages) to get it identity and then look at udev configuration scripts. IIUC, udev is assigned the task of identifying and classifying stuff correctly. Everything else at higher levels of abstraction would depend on those results. I did a locate on udev and some promising things popped up. /etc/udev /etc/sysconfig/modules/udev-stw.modules /etc/udev/devices /etc/udev/makedev.d /etc/udev/rules.d /etc/udev/udev.conf Plus there's a bunch of docs about it up in /usr/share/doc/udev-095, including overview and writing-udev-rules. man -k udev offers some potential help too. I hope there's an answer hidden in there somewhere. Thanks, including for the chuckle. Chuckles are free, grins @ $0.01. mhr snip sig stuff HTH -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 11:34 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:11 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:03 -0700, MHR wrote: Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 If *I* know about it, it *can't* be a *new* feature! ;-) Heh, heh - I meant feature as in the infamous Bill Gates interview with the German technology magazine, wherein he claimed that Windows has no bugs, only features that people do not understand. (You can't make this stuff up) The most interesting part to me is that the disk in question is a fixed drive in the case. On my CentOS boxes and laptops, these NEVER show up on the desktop (why would they?), only the removable media. If it is truly a fixed drive, then I would suggest a look at the logs (dmesg and/or messages) to get it identity and then look at udev configuration scripts. IIUC, udev is assigned the task of identifying and classifying stuff correctly. Everything else at higher levels of abstraction would depend on those results. I did a locate on udev and some promising things popped up. /etc/udev /etc/sysconfig/modules/udev-stw.modules /etc/udev/devices /etc/udev/makedev.d /etc/udev/rules.d /etc/udev/udev.conf Plus there's a bunch of docs about it up in /usr/share/doc/udev-095, including overview and writing-udev-rules. man -k udev offers some potential help too. I hope there's an answer hidden in there somewhere. Thanks, including for the chuckle. Chuckles are free, grins @ $0.01. I believe the problem is simple really. fstab has the device listed as LABEL=misc, and HAL reports it as /dev/sdX, the Gnome file manager sees these as 2 separate devices and presents them as such. Find a way to have Gnome stop scanning the fstab file and have it rely completely on HAL, or have HAL ignore all devices listed in fstab. -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the problem is simple really. fstab has the device listed as LABEL=misc, and HAL reports it as /dev/sdX, the Gnome file manager sees these as 2 separate devices and presents them as such. Actually, I used tune2fs earlier to delete the volume label and the entry in fstab now lists the device directly. Find a way to have Gnome stop scanning the fstab file and have it rely completely on HAL, or have HAL ignore all devices listed in fstab. I'll look into this one. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 15:25 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 11:34 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:11 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:03 -0700, MHR wrote: Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 If *I* know about it, it *can't* be a *new* feature! ;-) Heh, heh - I meant feature as in the infamous Bill Gates interview with the German technology magazine, wherein he claimed that Windows has no bugs, only features that people do not understand. (You can't make this stuff up) The most interesting part to me is that the disk in question is a fixed drive in the case. On my CentOS boxes and laptops, these NEVER show up on the desktop (why would they?), only the removable media. If it is truly a fixed drive, then I would suggest a look at the logs (dmesg and/or messages) to get it identity and then look at udev configuration scripts. IIUC, udev is assigned the task of identifying and classifying stuff correctly. Everything else at higher levels of abstraction would depend on those results. I did a locate on udev and some promising things popped up. /etc/udev /etc/sysconfig/modules/udev-stw.modules /etc/udev/devices /etc/udev/makedev.d /etc/udev/rules.d /etc/udev/udev.conf Plus there's a bunch of docs about it up in /usr/share/doc/udev-095, including overview and writing-udev-rules. man -k udev offers some potential help too. I hope there's an answer hidden in there somewhere. Thanks, including for the chuckle. Chuckles are free, grins @ $0.01. I believe the problem is simple really. fstab has the device listed as LABEL=misc, and HAL reports it as /dev/sdX, the Gnome file manager sees these as 2 separate devices and presents them as such. If the misc is getting automounted, that would be a problem. But wasn't the noauto option tried (I can't remember)? Find a way to have Gnome stop scanning the fstab file and have it rely completely on HAL, or have HAL ignore all devices listed in fstab. -Ross snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the misc is getting automounted, that would be a problem. But wasn't the noauto option tried (I can't remember)? No, I want it automounted. I just don't want it to show up twice on my desktop. I suppose I could just delete the file from my Desktop folder, but I'm not sure if that does anything detrimental or what mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 12:50 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the misc is getting automounted, that would be a problem. But wasn't the noauto option tried (I can't remember)? No, I want it automounted. I just don't want it to show up twice on my desktop. You mean regardless of if desktop is started up? In that case, it sounds like System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media settings need changing to *not* mount when hot-plugged. I suppose I could just delete the file from my Desktop folder, but I'm not sure if that does anything detrimental or what mhr snip -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean regardless of if desktop is started up? In that case, it sounds like System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media settings need changing to *not* mount when hot-plugged. At the risk of repeating myself: this is a fixed hard drive; it is NOT a removable drive nor a removable media drive. That is why this issue is so puzzling to me mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:15 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean regardless of if desktop is started up? In that case, it sounds like System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media settings need changing to *not* mount when hot-plugged. At the risk of repeating myself: this is a fixed hard drive; it is NOT a removable drive nor a removable media drive. That is why this issue is so puzzling to me Repeating is not an issue. Long threads promote forgetfulness. But I didn't forget. I'm just hazarding a guess that whatever the root cause is, changing those settings might get rid of the extra icon. That, in turn, gives a hint that might be useful. If it doesn't fix it, it also provides some help by eliminating some things... I hope. I'm still hoping that the scan of the dmesg or messages log, in conjunction with a look a udev stuff might reveal the cause. The settings suggestion was just a stab at getting rid of the icon, which was your stated goal. mhr snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:15 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean regardless of if desktop is started up? In that case, it sounds like System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media settings need changing to *not* mount when hot-plugged. At the risk of repeating myself: this is a fixed hard drive; it is NOT a removable drive nor a removable media drive. That is why this issue is so puzzling to me BTW. Determination of device type/class is contained within the HAL/udev data bases (script, configs, hardware lists, ...). If your device is not there, or is there erroneously identified, ISTM that it could cause the system to believe it was removable media. mhr snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:15 -0700, MHR wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean regardless of if desktop is started up? In that case, it sounds like System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media settings need changing to *not* mount when hot-plugged. At the risk of repeating myself: this is a fixed hard drive; it is NOT a removable drive nor a removable media drive. That is why this issue is so puzzling to me Repeating is not an issue. Long threads promote forgetfulness. But I didn't forget. I'm just hazarding a guess that whatever the root cause is, changing those settings might get rid of the extra icon. That, in turn, gives a hint that might be useful. If it doesn't fix it, it also provides some help by eliminating some things... I hope. I'm still hoping that the scan of the dmesg or messages log, in conjunction with a look a udev stuff might reveal the cause. The settings suggestion was just a stab at getting rid of the icon, which was your stated goal. I wonder if anyone can duplicate the problem by creating a partition and having it mounted in fstab by volume label and see if it appears twice. If you list it in fstab by /dev/sdXX and HAL announces it as /dev/sdXX then it will only appear once, but if it is listed in fstab as LABEL= and HAL announces it as /dev/sdXX then it would be listed as twice. I believe /boot, /, LABEL=boot and LABEL=root, are typically ignored either in Gnome or HAL or both, so those won't dup. -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:46 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: snip I wonder if anyone can duplicate the problem by creating a partition and having it mounted in fstab by volume label and see if it appears twice. Not quite the same, but I've a USB drive that I plugged in after removing noauto from the fstab entry. $ grep 4 /etc/fstab LABEL=BkUp_4_5 /media/sdc1 ext2defaults,noatime 0 0 Got a nice little message telling me (in Gnome desktop) that I wasn't priveleged to mount it. That's as I would expect since I was already logged in at my desktop. Mount showed it mounted. $ mount /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1 type ext2 (rw,noatime) Now I'll reboot and see what happens. Rebooted. Prior to entering telinit 5, did a mount and it was mounted. After logging onto graphical desktop, one icon on the desktop. As expected. I'm led back to the conclusion that there is some oddity about the device definitions on Mark's problematic unit. If you list it in fstab by /dev/sdXX and HAL announces it as /dev/sdXX then it will only appear once, but if it is listed in fstab as LABEL= and HAL announces it as /dev/sdXX then it would be listed as twice. Not as far as I can tell. From dmesg: device-mapper: multipath: version 1.0.5 loaded Vendor: Toshiba Model: USB2.0 Drive R00 Rev: 1.43 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sdc: 195371568 512-byte hdwr sectors (100030 MB) and SELinux: initialized (dev sdc1, type ext2), uses xattr From messages: Apr 29 16:58:01 centos501 kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdc Apr 29 16:58:01 centos501 kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Nothing of interest in /var/log/gdm/:0.log. I believe /boot, /, LABEL=boot and LABEL=root, are typically ignored either in Gnome or HAL or both, so those won't dup. That would be another good test. -Ross snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:46 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: snip I wonder if anyone can duplicate the problem by creating a partition and having it mounted in fstab by volume label and see if it appears twice. Not quite the same, but I've a USB drive that I plugged in after removing noauto from the fstab entry. $ grep 4 /etc/fstab LABEL=BkUp_4_5 /media/sdc1 ext2defaults,noatime 0 0 Hmmm, and if the mount point were outside of /media? Got a nice little message telling me (in Gnome desktop) that I wasn't priveleged to mount it. That's as I would expect since I was already logged in at my desktop. Mount showed it mounted. $ mount /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1 type ext2 (rw,noatime) Is that fixed or removable media? Now I'll reboot and see what happens. Rebooted. Prior to entering telinit 5, did a mount and it was mounted. After logging onto graphical desktop, one icon on the desktop. As expected. I'm led back to the conclusion that there is some oddity about the device definitions on Mark's problematic unit. There could be, could you give it a try with another mount point outside of /media and with a fixed disk if it isn't already? -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:32 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:46 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: snip I wonder if anyone can duplicate the problem by creating a partition and having it mounted in fstab by volume label and see if it appears twice. Not quite the same, but I've a USB drive that I plugged in after removing noauto from the fstab entry. $ grep 4 /etc/fstab LABEL=BkUp_4_5 /media/sdc1 ext2defaults,noatime 0 0 Hmmm, and if the mount point were outside of /media? My suspicion is it won't matter. But Give me a couple and I'll try this and the other suggestions below. Got a nice little message telling me (in Gnome desktop) that I wasn't priveleged to mount it. That's as I would expect since I was already logged in at my desktop. Mount showed it mounted. $ mount /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1 type ext2 (rw,noatime) Is that fixed or removable media? It is an external. Got 2 at a deal from Tosh because I own one of their nice 17 Satellites. Now I'll reboot and see what happens. Rebooted. Prior to entering telinit 5, did a mount and it was mounted. After logging onto graphical desktop, one icon on the desktop. As expected. I'm led back to the conclusion that there is some oddity about the device definitions on Mark's problematic unit. There could be, could you give it a try with another mount point outside of /media and with a fixed disk if it isn't already? Will do. Give me a couple and I'll post again. -Ross snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:32 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:46 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: snip I wonder if anyone can duplicate the problem by creating a partition and having it mounted in fstab by volume label and see if it appears twice. Not quite the same, but I've a USB drive that I plugged in after removing noauto from the fstab entry. $ grep 4 /etc/fstab LABEL=BkUp_4_5 /media/sdc1 ext2defaults,noatime 0 0 Hmmm, and if the mount point were outside of /media? Drat! Changed that one to noauto. I'll have to ribit and try that one again. Got a nice little message telling me (in Gnome desktop) that I wasn't priveleged to mount it. That's as I would expect since I was already logged in at my desktop. Mount showed it mounted. $ mount /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1 type ext2 (rw,noatime) Is that fixed or removable media? Now I'll reboot and see what happens. Rebooted. Prior to entering telinit 5, did a mount and it was mounted. After logging onto graphical desktop, one icon on the desktop. As expected. I'm led back to the conclusion that there is some oddity about the device definitions on Mark's problematic unit. There could be, could you give it a try with another mount point outside of /media and with a fixed disk if it isn't already? ]$ grep OLDh /etc/fstab # /dev/sda7/mnt/OLDhardtolove ext2noauto 0 0 LABEL=OLDhardtolove /mnt/OLDhardtolove ext2 defaults,ro 0 0 $ mount /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/sdb1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sda7 on /mnt/OLDhardtolove type ext2 (ro) No icon on the desktop. BTW. On the previous test, I could not umount the device from the desktop. That would be because it was mounted prior to GUI instantiation and so the GUI user was not the owner I guess. -Ross snip -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:32 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:46 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: William L. Maltby wrote: snip I wonder if anyone can duplicate the problem by creating a partition and having it mounted in fstab by volume label and see if it appears twice. Not quite the same, but I've a USB drive that I plugged in after removing noauto from the fstab entry. $ grep 4 /etc/fstab LABEL=BkUp_4_5 /media/sdc1 ext2defaults,noatime 0 0 Hmmm, and if the mount point were outside of /media? $ grep -i bk /etc/fstab LABEL=BkUp_4_5 /mnt/sdc1 ext2defaults,noatime 0 0 $ mount /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/sdb1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sda7 on /mnt/OLDhardtolove type ext2 (ro) /dev/sdc1 on /mnt/sdc1 type ext2 (rw,noatime) Only 1 icon on desktop. Again, I can't umount it, as expected. As root, I can umount it, as expected. Icon then disappears. snip -Ross snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that you have solved. If for some reason you wish to keep both definitions (there may be reasons), just add noauto (no quotes) to one or both of the entries. This might be useful when you want to mount a different volume, e.g. as a temp mount for backup or copy purposes. This is handy when you have, e.g., a couple identical looking external usb drives that are used for different purposes on multiple machines. With label and noauto, it keeps me from accidentally mounting the wrong one. No, external labels won't do - purposes change frequently. I'm not sure I understand this - there are no duplicate entries in fstab, and the /misc volume does not automount during the boot, or didn't the last time I booted the machine. The problem is that I still have two icons on the desktop for a single mounted disk. ? If I want to get rid of the label, how do I do that? 'man e2label' doesn't say how to delete an existing label Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
MHR wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that you have solved. If for some reason you wish to keep both definitions (there may be reasons), just add noauto (no quotes) to one or both of the entries. This might be useful when you want to mount a different volume, e.g. as a temp mount for backup or copy purposes. This is handy when you have, e.g., a couple identical looking external usb drives that are used for different purposes on multiple machines. With label and noauto, it keeps me from accidentally mounting the wrong one. No, external labels won't do - purposes change frequently. I'm not sure I understand this - there are no duplicate entries in fstab, and the /misc volume does not automount during the boot, or didn't the last time I booted the machine. The problem is that I still have two icons on the desktop for a single mounted disk. ? If I want to get rid of the label, how do I do that? 'man e2label' doesn't say how to delete an existing label tune2fs -L /dev/XXX -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 13:52 -0700, MHR wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that you have solved. If for some reason you wish to keep both definitions (there may be reasons), just add noauto (no quotes) to one or both of the entries. This might be useful when you want to mount a different volume, e.g. as a temp mount for backup or copy purposes. This is handy when you have, e.g., a couple identical looking external usb drives that are used for different purposes on multiple machines. With label and noauto, it keeps me from accidentally mounting the wrong one. No, external labels won't do - purposes change frequently. I'm not sure I understand this - there are no duplicate entries in fstab, and the /misc volume does not automount during the boot, or didn't the last time I booted the machine. The entry in fstab will mount automatically unless noauto is specified. With HAL, UDEV et al active on your system, it is safe to assume that one of them is mounting the device. At the time X starts, devices that are handled via this facility will be made available to the user of the desktop (and ownership is assigned to that user too IIUC). I don't recall seeing noauto in your fstab entry. Before logging on via X, switch to a vt and type mount. You'll probably see the device already mounted. Then after you log in via X, do mount again. I expect you'll see two mounts on the device. The problem is that I still have two icons on the desktop for a single mounted disk. AFAIK, that is not a problem except to the wetware. The system is perfectly happy with it. See man mount and look for bind to see evidence of this. I'm not that knowledgeable about the desktop, but I think Gnome has some stuff it starts up that comminucates with HAL or udev to locate removable devices and make them available on the desktop. This goes beyond mount, IIUC. Witness a CD or DVD that is a video or music media. It has no file system, as we understand it, and can't be formally mounted. I *think* that's correct. Those devices should get accessed through the raw device interfaces. Maybe Gnome has some preferences about this? snip HTH -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tune2fs -L /dev/XXX Thank you! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
Boot and root should be ok, but misc is probably causing problems with file managers querying fstab and hal. -Ross - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Mon Apr 28 18:30:00 2008 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tune2fs -L /dev/XXX Thank you! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boot and root should be ok, but misc is probably causing problems with file managers querying fstab and hal. -Ross Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
MHR wrote: I'm running FC8 with Gnome 2.20.0 at work and I have this interesting situation. I have two disks on the system that are both configured to be mounted in /etc/fstab, but I'm seeing two things I believe are strange. One is that the second drive is not getting mounted at boot time. The other is that I see two icons for the disk on my desktop - one with the mount point of the drive, the other with the labvel, and they both refer to the same drive (but, e.g., if I use one icon to umount the drive, the other icon does not go away - this is secondary). Suggestions welcome. Here is my /etc/fstab: LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sda2 swapswapdefaults0 0 LABEL=/misc /misc ext3defaults1 2 The drive that is misbehaving is /misc. This is (more or less) my first experience with FC, so have mercy. :-) Slightly OT? Only way it could be more OT is if this were a Mac OS X or Windows forum... ;-) I suggest, forgoing disk labels... -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly OT? Only way it could be more OT is if this were a Mac OS X or Windows forum... ;-) You mean slightly isn't a synonym for way? :-) I suggest, forgoing disk labels... I umounted the drive, changed /etc/fstab not to use the label, removed the /dev/disk/by-label symlink and now I get one icon with the name /misc. That looks right, so I'll go with it. Thanks! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
