Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3
On 01/04/2013 11:53 AM, Ned Slider wrote: On 04/01/13 15:59, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd there is a recommendation to NOT use the version that comes with Centos 6.3, but to get the more current version from RPMForge. Is this the 'correct' thing to do on a Centos-based mail server? There is no correct thing to do or not to do - it's simply a recommendation (BTW, I wrote the guide). I am working some more off your guide. What is clamav-devel need for? In the userid check: # cat /etc/passwd | grep amavis\|clamav I get the clamav userid as clam, not clamav. Same way with the group being clam, not clamav and neither are added to the amavis group. So what to do? Am I doing something wrong or has clamav changed so that your howto needs updating? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3
On 01/10/2013 03:10 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/04/2013 11:53 AM, Ned Slider wrote: On 04/01/13 15:59, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd there is a recommendation to NOT use the version that comes with Centos 6.3, but to get the more current version from RPMForge. Is this the 'correct' thing to do on a Centos-based mail server? There is no correct thing to do or not to do - it's simply a recommendation (BTW, I wrote the guide). I am working some more off your guide. What is clamav-devel need for? In the userid check: # cat /etc/passwd | grep amavis\|clamav I get the clamav userid as clam, not clamav. Same way with the group being clam, not clamav and neither are added to the amavis group. So what to do? Am I doing something wrong or has clamav changed so that your howto needs updating? The clamd and amavisd services are installed off, and have to be enabled with chkconfig ... on. Oh, also, there is a clamd.amavisd service. Should that be set to on? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3
On 04/01/13 15:59, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd there is a recommendation to NOT use the version that comes with Centos 6.3, but to get the more current version from RPMForge. Is this the 'correct' thing to do on a Centos-based mail server? There is no correct thing to do or not to do - it's simply a recommendation (BTW, I wrote the guide). It's a recommendation based on the fact that Red Hat can be slow to update the SpamAssassin package so the version in rpmforge is invariably more likely to be current. Take now as an example, the distro version is 3.3.1 and rpmforge has the current 3.3.2 version in their extras repository. The changelog shows SA was updated to 3.2.2 on Wed Jun 22 2011 by rpmforge so at this point in time upstream (Red Hat) is at least 18 months behind. Based on the above information, hopefully you can make an informed choice that is right for you. Hope that helps. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3
On 01/04/2013 11:53 AM, Ned Slider wrote: On 04/01/13 15:59, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd there is a recommendation to NOT use the version that comes with Centos 6.3, but to get the more current version from RPMForge. Is this the 'correct' thing to do on a Centos-based mail server? There is no correct thing to do or not to do - it's simply a recommendation (BTW, I wrote the guide). It's a recommendation based on the fact that Red Hat can be slow to update the SpamAssassin package so the version in rpmforge is invariably more likely to be current. Take now as an example, the distro version is 3.3.1 and rpmforge has the current 3.3.2 version in their extras repository. The changelog shows SA was updated to 3.2.2 on Wed Jun 22 2011 by rpmforge so at this point in time upstream (Red Hat) is at least 18 months behind. Based on the above information, hopefully you can make an informed choice that is right for you. Hope that helps. I have been looking at the same issue WRT Postfix. There the differences are probably greater between what is available in source and what is in 6.3. But I need to resist going with source building, as then I have to spend more time than I have staying up with fixes. I want an RPM repo to fit into the YUM process. I guess I need some good information on what is reasonable to replace and how to initially build a system via kickstart with the 'best' rpms. BTW, I have started this effort following: http://www.campworld.net/thewiki/pmwiki.php/LinuxServersCentOS/Cent6VirtMailServer Correcting things as I go. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3
On 04.01.2013 17:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have been looking at the same issue WRT Postfix. There the differences are probably greater between what is available in source and what is in 6.3. But I need to resist going with source building, as then I have to spend more time than I have staying up with fixes. I want an RPM repo to fit into the YUM process. Very good. Newest != best. :) It's likely that if you have a problem or you're getting too much spam is not primarily because the package is slightly old. In my case the secret was to train it, feed it new spam regularly. Currently my stock SpamAssassin protected Inbox gets less spam than my gmail account and they're both getting similar levels of traffic. BTW, I have started this effort following: http://www.campworld.net/thewiki/pmwiki.php/LinuxServersCentOS/Cent6VirtMailServer I would have loved that some years ago. Nowadays I just use system users and webmin to manage them (or just some scripts). -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: what is in 6.3. But I need to resist going with source building, as then I have to spend more time than I have staying up with fixes. I want an RPM repo to fit into the YUM process. BTW, I have started this effort following: http://www.campworld.net/thewiki/pmwiki.php/LinuxServersCentOS/Cent6VirtMailServer I would have loved that some years ago. Nowadays I just use system users and webmin to manage them (or just some scripts). If you only have system users you could probably get by with ClearOS or SMEserver and never have to deal directly with anything but the web interface. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin under CentOS-6.3
On 08/31/2012 04:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: It appears to be running OK, but only catches about 20% of my spam. If you have old rules and as far as spam evolves, that situation is fair I wonder if others have experienced this decline? No. I suspect that sa-learn is not performing properly. (I run sa-learn nightly on my spam, which is saved in ~/Maildir/.Spam/cur/ , through the default spamassassin installation.) - how old is the Spam to feed sa-learn with? - what weight do you give to bayesean detection? Eg I receive more or less identical spam many times without it being caught. Also, about 35% of the spam that gets through is in foreign languates - Russian, Chinese, Arabic and Turkish - Those are local langages for some... One difficultly I have is that there seem many places where one can make changes in spamassassin settings. Am I right in thinking that all such changes can be made in .spamassassin/user_prefs ? Seems OK What should I put in this file to change the score for eg 3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100% Advices: - SA can be asked to report the scores in one header: make it reports and analyze the scoring - SA has a mailingg list you could also trigger in order to help -- RMA. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin under CentOS-6.3
On 2012-08-31 at 17:57:01 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 08/31/2012 04:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Also, about 35% of the spam that gets through is in foreign languates - Russian, Chinese, Arabic and Turkish - Those are local langages for some... Unfortunately you don't say what ... stands for. If it stands for users, you are right. But Timothy's statement is about a program. And it's a matter of fact that the languages mentioned above had been neglected by programmers in the past. It was a stony way to get to UTF-8, for example, because too many programmers believed that ISO-8859 is sufficient for everyone. And Timothy only said what he observed with no discrimination in mind. Regards, Reinhard -- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotu...@web.de Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
