Re: [CentOS] This isn't supposed to be difficult (how to nntp post to the Gmane Pan user group)

2013-07-08 Thread Rock
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 22:50:33 +0200, Markus Falb wrote:

 if you post the first time to a mailing list per gmane 
 then gmane will send you a mail that you must answer.

UPDATE:

Ah. *That* was the problem!

Lars had written back, but his answer was unhelpful.
He had written, verbatim: 
 If you can read via Gmane, you can post via Gmane.

This turns out to be false (since I could clearly read but not post
to the Gmane pan users group).

But, given your helpful suggestion above, I belatedly logged into my 
rarely-used throwaway email account, and, lo and behold, in that unused 
email account, were the missing (now expired) authorization requests 
from Gmane:

 Subject: gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user: Authorization required
 From: Gmane Autoauthorizer auth-bignum...@auth.gmane.org
   
 You have sent a message to be posted on the
 gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user newsgroup.
 
 Before the message is posted on the newsgroup, you have
 to confirm that you exist.  Just reply to this message, and
 the message will be posted.
 
 You have to respond within one week.

I'm surprised reading the FAQ didn't bring this up, but, 
Lars said it's not something they put in the FAQ because 
you're just supposed to know it.

I guess I did, at one time, but, I had forgotten the sequence
for posting (which requires the throwaway email be actually used
at least once per Gmane group).

Mea culpa.


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Re: [CentOS] This isn't supposed to be difficult (how to nntp post to the Gmane Pan user group)

2013-07-04 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 04.07.2013 um 10:34 schrieb Rock rocksock...@gmail.com:
 I realize this is (mostly) off topic, but I'm befuddled as to *how* 
 one can post to the Gmane Pan Users' group (gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user) 
 using any nntp USENET client (e.g., Pan, on Centos).
 
 I'm already subscribed (by having sent an email to pan-us...@nongnu.org); 
 but I just want that USENET group to work like *this* USENET group, where 
 I can post using a server:port login:password combination such as we use here:
 Server: news.gmane.org  Port: 119
 Login: blank  Password: blank
 User: Rock
 
 I've looked here (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user) and
 if the answer is there, I don't see it (maybe I missed it?).
 
 My basic question is so simply I'm shocked I'm having to ask it (of the 
 wrong group even) ... which is ... the following:
 
 Q: How on earth is one supposed to post to the Gmane Pan users using 
   an nntp client (which requires a server name and port  login/password)?



why not asking them http://gmane.org/faq.php ? 

:-)

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LF


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Re: [CentOS] This isn't supposed to be difficult (how to nntp post to the Gmane Pan user group)

2013-07-04 Thread Rock
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 11:16:55 +0200, Leon Fauster wrote:

 why not asking them http://gmane.org/faq.php ?

It's not in that FAQ, nor in the web page for the pan users group.
I did ask Lars but he controls gmane, not the pan users group.

Amazingly, the pan users group just (apparently) assumes you omnipotently 
already know what to set the NNTP client server:port, login:password, and 
user:email to in order to post successfully.

For example, this is what you need to post to *this* group:
 Group name = gmane.linux.centos.general
 Server = news.gmane.org
 Port = 119
 Login = blank
 Password = blank
 Username = Foo
 Email = f...@bar.com == this is all that needs to be pre-registered in order 
 to post to gmane.linux.centos.general. (I forget how I had pre-registered, 
 but, IIRC, I had sent an email to someone at somewhere and they wrote back 
 with the instructions above - which allows me to post as long as I put that
 email address in the posting profile).


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Re: [CentOS] This isn't supposed to be difficult (how to nntp post to the Gmane Pan user group)

2013-07-04 Thread Markus Falb

On 04.Jul.2013, at 10:34, Rock wrote:

 I realize this is (mostly) off topic, but I'm befuddled as to *how* 
 one can post to the Gmane Pan Users' group (gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user) 
 using any nntp USENET client (e.g., Pan, on Centos).

It is (fully) off topic

That said, if you post the first time to a mailing list per gmane then gmane 
will send you a mail that you must answer.

You post per nntp the first time
gmane sends you a email per smtp
you reply to that email
you wait some time ...

something like that, but as said, when you have problems with gmane, ask gmane.
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