Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-11-07 Thread Milton Calnek
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Vandaman wrote:
 I'm listening if you have any other comments or advice
 on my situation. 


Sorry, I missed the question.

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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-11-07 Thread Vandaman
Milton Calnek wrote:

 Sorry, I missed the question. I'm severely confused
 and I don't know what I'm talking about.

My friend, stop misquoting me. See 
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067393.html

Regards,
Vandaman.



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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-11-07 Thread Les Mikesell

Vandaman wrote:

Milton Calnek wrote:


Sorry, I missed the question. I'm severely confused
and I don't know what I'm talking about.


My friend, stop misquoting me. See 
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067393.html


Are you leading by example here?

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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-11-05 Thread Vandaman
Linuxguy123 wrote:

 I've been a RH/Fedora guy since the RH8 days.  When
 Fedora came along, I
 moved to it, but its been a bit painful beta testing
 software all the
 time.   I ran Ubuntu for a while, but I found their package
 management
 to be difficult... I do a lot of technical work,
 development and loading
 and building special stuff.  I much prefer RPMs over other
 methods of
 package distribution.
 I'm listening if you have any other comments or advice
 on my situation. 
 

You are the guy who is having a bit of a moan on the Fedora
list about KDE. How many patches have you contributed to 
Fedora or to CentOS? This is open source after all, you have
access to the source.

Regards,
Vandaman.




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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-31 Thread Rubin
Hi,

for what it's worth, I'm running CentOS 5 with the planet-core,
planet-ccrma and novell-mono repos which exist for centos/rhel5 these
days. The planet-core repo contains the 2.6.24.7 with realtime patches
and other goodness for audio/video stuffs. I've been using this setup
for about 6 months now and i'm very happy with the stability + speed
this offers.

Greets,

Rubin.

Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Phil Schaffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:33 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Linuxguy123 wrote:
 b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge)
 kernels.  For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to
 be running 2.6.18 kernels.  I do know how to build my own kernels, but
 that is a pain.

 Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ?
 Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a
 specific repository ?
 Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the
 centos-plus repos ?
 IMHO should be a separate repo, or at least a naming scheme that would
 let people still use the traditional centos-plus kernels (derived from
 the same kernel versions with additional components being turned on)
 would be required.  Otherwise there would be too much risk of people
 unintentionally updating to bleeding-edge kernels.

 
 I think it would need to be a seperate repo for other reasons... I
 believe lots of userspace/kernelspace changed in the 2.6.22 time frame
 so a lot of sub-packages need to handle to.
 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-31 Thread Karanbir Singh

Phil Schaffner wrote:

IMHO should be a separate repo, or at least a naming scheme that would
let people still use the traditional centos-plus kernels 


Sure, thats a bridge to cross when we have someone offering to maintain 
this. And I was already thinking along those lines..


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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-30 Thread Karanbir Singh

Linuxguy123 wrote:

b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge)
kernels.  For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to
be running 2.6.18 kernels.  I do know how to build my own kernels, but
that is a pain.

Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ?
Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a
specific repository ?


Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the 
centos-plus repos ?


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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-30 Thread Dag Wieers

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote:


Linuxguy123 wrote:


 b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge)
 kernels.  For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to
 be running 2.6.18 kernels.  I do know how to build my own kernels, but
 that is a pain.

 Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ?
 Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a
 specific repository ?


Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the 
centos-plus repos ?


That would not be a bad idea. I always wondered how well a recent kernel 
would work with CentOS 5, but I never took the time to test a Fedora 
kernel on my dependable boxes.


A project with this focus might indeed be useful.

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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-30 Thread Dag Wieers

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Dag Wieers wrote:


On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 Linuxguy123 wrote:

   b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge)
   kernels.  For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to
   be running 2.6.18 kernels.  I do know how to build my own kernels, but
   that is a pain.
 
   Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ?

   Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a
   specific repository ?

 Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the
 centos-plus repos ?


That would not be a bad idea. I always wondered how well a recent kernel 
would work with CentOS 5, but I never took the time to test a Fedora kernel 
on my dependable boxes.


A project with this focus might indeed be useful.


Let me add that nothing should be holding you (anyone) from starting a 
project by sending an email with intentions, get hold of a wiki-page to 
list your ideas and progress and motivating people to help and test.


Whether that is a bleeding-edge kernel project, a new tool to migrate 
sideways to and from RHEL, or a design, documentation or translation 
project. I am sure your effort is useful, but often it needs commitment 
and determination to get things going.


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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-30 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:33 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Linuxguy123 wrote:
  b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge)
  kernels.  For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to
  be running 2.6.18 kernels.  I do know how to build my own kernels, but
  that is a pain.
  
  Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ?
  Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a
  specific repository ?
 
 Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the 
 centos-plus repos ?

IMHO should be a separate repo, or at least a naming scheme that would
let people still use the traditional centos-plus kernels (derived from
the same kernel versions with additional components being turned on)
would be required.  Otherwise there would be too much risk of people
unintentionally updating to bleeding-edge kernels.

Along these lines, it might be a good idea to add some of the other more
modern features for those who want them and understand the risks -
again in a clearly specified bleeding-edge repo (or repos) - as long as
people are willing to step up and help with building, testing, and
maintaining packages.  From recent requests on the list there seems to
be some pent-up demand for newer features.  This could help establish
CentOS as both a platform that can be used by those who want EL
stability but don't need the support, and as a bridge for testing new
features on a stable base.

Phil


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Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?

2008-10-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Phil Schaffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:33 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Linuxguy123 wrote:
  b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge)
  kernels.  For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to
  be running 2.6.18 kernels.  I do know how to build my own kernels, but
  that is a pain.
 
  Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ?
  Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a
  specific repository ?

 Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the
 centos-plus repos ?

 IMHO should be a separate repo, or at least a naming scheme that would
 let people still use the traditional centos-plus kernels (derived from
 the same kernel versions with additional components being turned on)
 would be required.  Otherwise there would be too much risk of people
 unintentionally updating to bleeding-edge kernels.


I think it would need to be a seperate repo for other reasons... I
believe lots of userspace/kernelspace changed in the 2.6.22 time frame
so a lot of sub-packages need to handle to.



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