Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > Hi, > May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice to > everyone. > Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is > not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was pulled out from the main > distro and put into Red Hat Developer Toolset (which is imho a good idea > not to use a 7 years old IDE). But Red Hat Developer Toolset is still > not supported on rhel7 this means currently you have to install eclipse > and all other packages from RHDT. Most of the point of the developer toolset was to get reasonably modern compiler-chain tools (C++ 11 support, etc.) and you get those natively in RHEL/CentOS7 so you don't have to install 'all the other' packages. Eclipse itself is relatively self-contained (like most java applications) and capable of managing its own modules so packaged versions are really a big win. > Anyway RH said it will be supported... I'd expect it to show up here: http://linux.web.cern.ch/linux/devtoolset/#dts21 eventually - unless CentOS picks it up. But it doesn't seem that important until the stock versions are outdated. If you took your own advice and backed out to CentOS6.x, you might want to use these. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation
Oh noes, are sed and gzip not included? On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Farkas Levente wrote: > > Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is > not included any developer IDE. > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Farkas Levente wrote: > On 08/03/2014 01:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > > > Am 03.08.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Farkas Levente: > >> May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice > >> to everyone. Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since > >> currently there is not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was > >> pulled out... > > > > what a nonsense > > > > i am using Fedora and guess what - Eclipse package the last 7 years > > lives uner /usr/local/ and not from the repos > > > > if one can't install an IDE because it is not in the repos he > > likely has no developer qulifications anyways > > if one can't build and install a linux os because it is not in the > repos he likely has no developer qualifications anyways:-) > > i already build and install a few (!?), but still like to install > everything from rpm and not mess the whole os with packages and files > like on windows.. > > Nooo! Developers are not and should never be sysadmins!!! I'd give a developer a ready built base system and what he/she installs on it then, I don't really care. Cheers, Cliff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 12:15:43PM -0400, Digimer wrote: > On 03/08/14 07:19 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > > Hi, > > May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice to > > everyone. > > Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is > > not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was pulled out from the main > > distro and put into Red Hat Developer Toolset (which is imho a good idea > > not to use a 7 years old IDE). But Red Hat Developer Toolset is still > > not supported on rhel7 this means currently you have to install eclipse > > and all other packages from RHDT. > > Anyway RH said it will be supported... > > > > Regards. > > Why do you assume that, because your IDE of choice is not included, that > you should send out a "PSA" style email to multiple CentOS mailing lists? yes. and to the original issue: just because it doesn't have Eclipse, why should that cause everyone to avoid doing development on it? AFAI am concerned, a Unix(-like) system with multiple terminal windows, one for editing, one for compiling, one for testing/debugging is the best IDE there is. (I realize lots of people disagree.) Until someone gives me something easy to use that incoroporates a full clone of vi as its primary editing tool, I'll stick with the plain and simple. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. - Proverbs 15:9 (niv) - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation
On 03/08/14 07:19 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: > Hi, > May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice to > everyone. > Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is > not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was pulled out from the main > distro and put into Red Hat Developer Toolset (which is imho a good idea > not to use a 7 years old IDE). But Red Hat Developer Toolset is still > not supported on rhel7 this means currently you have to install eclipse > and all other packages from RHDT. > Anyway RH said it will be supported... > > Regards. Why do you assume that, because your IDE of choice is not included, that you should send out a "PSA" style email to multiple CentOS mailing lists? -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation
On 08/03/2014 01:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 03.08.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Farkas Levente: >> May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice >> to everyone. Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since >> currently there is not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was >> pulled out... > > what a nonsense > > i am using Fedora and guess what - Eclipse package the last 7 years > lives uner /usr/local/ and not from the repos > > if one can't install an IDE because it is not in the repos he > likely has no developer qulifications anyways if one can't build and install a linux os because it is not in the repos he likely has no developer qualifications anyways:-) i already build and install a few (!?), but still like to install everything from rpm and not mess the whole os with packages and files like on windows.. -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!" ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
