Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-30 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/29/11 11:22 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> And I've had the external speakers jacked in both in the front
> "headphones" jack, and the traditional one in the back, and sound comes
> both out of the external speakers and a speaker inside the machine.

sound cards have a myriad of different ways they can be connected to 
outputs  its possible your motherboard's audio mixer has a output to 
the internal speaker.   usually these can be controlled via a 'mixer' 
program, but the sound drivers have to know exactly what hardware is 
connected where on the outside of the core audio chip for all this to 
work sanely.



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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-30 Thread ken
On 07/29/2011 02:21 PM Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:05:27AM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
> 
>> On 07/29/11 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Well, my new workstation has an internal speaker, as well as the jacks for
>>> external. I want beeps, if necessary, but I can't figure out how to tell
>>> it*not*  to route streaming audio to the jacks, and*not*  through the PC
>>> speaker. Any ideas, folks?
>> wait.i'm confused.  you don't want ;streaming audio' (for whatever 
>> that means) on the jacks and you don't want it on the PC internal 
>> speaker ? (afaik, ONLY the motherboard 'beeps' ever come out the 
>> internal speaker, as its not a proper sound card, just a square wave 
>> thingie).
> 
> Actually, I would like to activate that motherboard beeper too.
> I wrote a program years ago, before I had any sound card on my
> MS-Dos PC to generate something on it.   You could vary the 
> frequency (tone) and length of beep and that just suited an
> experiment I was doing.  I don't know how to do that from a
> current machine running any UNIX varient (CentOS, FreeBSD, etc)
> That information may be out there, but I haven't tried lately
> to dig it up.   If you know or have some pointers, it could
> be helpful.

That was one of the many programs I wrote too.  Ah, the days of C coding
on DOS  Good times, but I'm glad they're gone.  Today just do this:

On CentOS 5.6 go into System > Preferences > Sound, click on the "System
Beep" tab, then click on "Enable System Beep".

No pitch control there though.  I can't understand why not.


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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 03:29 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2011 1:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 And I've had the external speakers jacked in both in the front
 "headphones" jack, and the traditional one in the back, and sound comes
 both out of the external speakers and a speaker inside the machine.
>>>
>>> That's usually a hardware thing where plugging something into the
>>> headphone jack breaks the connections to the speakers.
>>
>> I know. That's why I mentioned what I'd done, and that I was confused,
>> because that's the result I expected, and I'm not getting it.
>
> I *think* I've got it: my manager suggested pavucontrol, but the only
> place I found that was a repo he'd rather I didn't use. Then I tried
> playing, again, with kmix from the panel, and this time I went to
> configure it, and tried adding the control for IEC958I; I mute that, and
> it seems to be quiet, and the speakers are working.
>
> mark "system-config-soundcard is too complicated, I guess..."
>

What happened to the screaming and pulseaudio bashing? This is so serene...
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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On 7/29/2011 1:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>>
>>> And I've had the external speakers jacked in both in the front
>>> "headphones" jack, and the traditional one in the back, and sound comes
>>> both out of the external speakers and a speaker inside the machine.
>>
>> That's usually a hardware thing where plugging something into the
>> headphone jack breaks the connections to the speakers.
>
> I know. That's why I mentioned what I'd done, and that I was confused,
> because that's the result I expected, and I'm not getting it.

I *think* I've got it: my manager suggested pavucontrol, but the only
place I found that was a repo he'd rather I didn't use. Then I tried
playing, again, with kmix from the panel, and this time I went to
configure it, and tried adding the control for IEC958I; I mute that, and
it seems to be quiet, and the speakers are working.

   mark "system-config-soundcard is too complicated, I guess..."

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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 7/29/2011 1:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>
>> Streaming audio: a 'Net "radio station".
>>
>> And I've had the external speakers jacked in both in the front
>> "headphones" jack, and the traditional one in the back, and sound comes
>> both out of the external speakers and a speaker inside the machine.
>
> That's usually a hardware thing where plugging something into the
> headphone jack breaks the connections to the speakers.

I know. That's why I mentioned what I'd done, and that I was confused,
because that's the result I expected, and I'm not getting it.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/29/2011 1:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
> Streaming audio: a 'Net "radio station".
>
> And I've had the external speakers jacked in both in the front
> "headphones" jack, and the traditional one in the back, and sound comes
> both out of the external speakers and a speaker inside the machine.

That's usually a hardware thing where plugging something into the 
headphone jack breaks the connections to the speakers.

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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:05:27AM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:

> On 07/29/11 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> > Well, my new workstation has an internal speaker, as well as the jacks for
> > external. I want beeps, if necessary, but I can't figure out how to tell
> > it*not*  to route streaming audio to the jacks, and*not*  through the PC
> > speaker. Any ideas, folks?
> 
> wait.i'm confused.  you don't want ;streaming audio' (for whatever 
> that means) on the jacks and you don't want it on the PC internal 
> speaker ? (afaik, ONLY the motherboard 'beeps' ever come out the 
> internal speaker, as its not a proper sound card, just a square wave 
> thingie).

Actually, I would like to activate that motherboard beeper too.
I wrote a program years ago, before I had any sound card on my
MS-Dos PC to generate something on it.   You could vary the 
frequency (tone) and length of beep and that just suited an
experiment I was doing.  I don't know how to do that from a
current machine running any UNIX varient (CentOS, FreeBSD, etc)
That information may be out there, but I haven't tried lately
to dig it up.   If you know or have some pointers, it could
be helpful.

Thanks,

jerry


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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 07/29/11 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Well, my new workstation has an internal speaker, as well as the jacks
>> for external. I want beeps, if necessary, but I can't figure out how to
>> tell it*not*  to route streaming audio to the jacks, and*not*  through
>> the PC speaker. Any ideas, folks?
>
> wait.i'm confused.  you don't want ;streaming audio' (for whatever
> that means) on the jacks and you don't want it on the PC internal
> speaker ? (afaik, ONLY the motherboard 'beeps' ever come out the
> internal speaker, as its not a proper sound card, just a square wave
> thingie).

Streaming audio: a 'Net "radio station".

And I've had the external speakers jacked in both in the front
"headphones" jack, and the traditional one in the back, and sound comes
both out of the external speakers and a speaker inside the machine.

mark

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Re: [CentOS] dual sound

2011-07-29 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/29/11 10:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Well, my new workstation has an internal speaker, as well as the jacks for
> external. I want beeps, if necessary, but I can't figure out how to tell
> it*not*  to route streaming audio to the jacks, and*not*  through the PC
> speaker. Any ideas, folks?

wait.i'm confused.  you don't want ;streaming audio' (for whatever 
that means) on the jacks and you don't want it on the PC internal 
speaker ? (afaik, ONLY the motherboard 'beeps' ever come out the 
internal speaker, as its not a proper sound card, just a square wave 
thingie).



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