Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-18 Thread Johnny Hughes

Nicholas wrote:

Herrold,

I meant RH, in terms of the RHEL distro. I look forward to have centos 
gain the LSB, what is needed for the pass thru? is the main CentOS 
community interested?


As for the rest, thank you for the sharing of info.

The LSB should be concern to encourage developers to built stuff that 
can be used across distros. LSB should reduce problems of desktop users 
who have been finding difficulty in getting stuff like printer drivers 
and other paraphernalia. The more distros adopting LSB then more 
developers/manufacturers will be encouraged on the use of LSB.


Well .. I have run the latest testing scripts and CentOS-5.1 passes the 
3.1 LSB for Core and Desktop.


It does not pass the 3.2 LSB tests yet (neither does RHEL-5).

I will work with Russ to see if I can get CentOS certified without 
paying $20,000.00 a year to make it happen.


If we have to pay for this, well we can't be certified.

Note, only one version of Ubuntu (6.0.6 LTS) and no Debian or Fedora 
versions are certified.


Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-16 Thread Nicholas

Herrold,

I meant RH, in terms of the RHEL distro. I look forward to have centos 
gain the LSB, what is needed for the pass thru? is the main CentOS 
community interested?


As for the rest, thank you for the sharing of info.

The LSB should be concern to encourage developers to built stuff that 
can be used across distros. LSB should reduce problems of desktop users 
who have been finding difficulty in getting stuff like printer drivers 
and other paraphernalia. The more distros adopting LSB then more 
developers/manufacturers will be encouraged on the use of LSB.





R P Herrold wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Nicholas wrote:


Would anyone know if CentOS 4 and 5 is LSB certified?


We have been offered a pass through the process by the LSB, but there 
has not been demand for it.


I have not found any info on RH being LSB certified either. Is RH 
also LSB certified?


One assumes you mean 'RHEL'? Distribution releases, and not 
companties, are certified. You need to go check the LSB site more 
closely -- the answer is clearly there.


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Dag Wieers

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Ralph Angenendt wrote:


Nicholas wrote:

Correction:

RHEL 5 is LSB 3.1. Does this mean CentOS 5 is automatically LSB 3.1?


Yes. But we may not call it so, as CentOS is *not* certified by the
Linux Foundation. But the LSB tests should run without any problem on

If anyone wants to sponsor that - feel free to contact the CentOS team,
as the fees are pretty high:



And the product has to be retested after each maintenance release (5.1,
5.2, 5.3) ...


To be honest, I think that is where we are different from RHEL.

If you need absolute assurance that CentOS is LSB certified on paper 
before corporate management, buy RHEL entitlements and drop CentOS.


If you can live with CentOS and do not need the added value from Red Hat 
(support, EAL/LSB certification, legal indemnification for IP 
infringement, hardware/software certification) stick with CentOS.


But if your business relies on CentOS, your business relies on Red Hat as 
well. There is at least a moral duty to think what that is worth to your 
business and act accordingly.


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>   But the LSB tests should run without any problem on 

CentOS 5.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Nicholas wrote:
> Correction:
>
> RHEL 5 is LSB 3.1. Does this mean CentOS 5 is automatically LSB 3.1?

Yes. But we may not call it so, as CentOS is *not* certified by the
Linux Foundation. But the LSB tests should run without any problem on 

If anyone wants to sponsor that - feel free to contact the CentOS team,
as the fees are pretty high:



And the product has to be retested after each maintenance release (5.1,
5.2, 5.3) ...

But you could also donate that kind of money to the CentOS project if
you want to express how you feel about CentOS :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:06 AM, GS R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Morten Nilsen wrote:
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> Nicholas wrote:
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> Just to see if it matters to ppl if it matters to be certified.
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> And what, pray tell, is LSB?
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>  Linux Standard Base (LSB)* - http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB*
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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread GS R

Morten Nilsen wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Just to see if it matters to ppl if it matters to be certified.


And what, pray tell, is LSB?


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Ian Blackwell

Morten Nilsen wrote:

And what, pray tell, is LSB?


http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB




 About the Linux Standard Base (LSB)

The Linux Standard Base delivers interoperability between applications 
and the Linux operating system. Currently all major distributions comply 
with the LSB and many major application vendors, like MySQL, 
RealNetworks and SAP, are certifying. The LSB offers a cost-effective 
way for application vendors to target multiple Linux distributions while 
building only one software package. For end-users, the LSB and its mark 
of interoperability preserves choice by allowing them to select the 
applications and distributions they want while avoiding vendor lock-in. 
LSB certification of distributions results in more applications being 
ported to Linux and ensures that distribution vendors are compatible 
with those applications. In short, the LSB ensures Linux does not fragment.


If you are an end user looking for Linux distributions that support open 
standards, please see our list of LSB certified products 
.


If you are a developer looking to build portable Linux applications that 
will work on these distributions, please see the Linux Developer Network 
.


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Nicholas

Correction:

RHEL 5 is LSB 3.1. Does this mean CentOS 5 is automatically LSB 3.1?

Nicholas wrote:

Hi all,

Would anyone know if CentOS 4 and 5 is LSB certified?

I have not found any info on RH being LSB certified either. Is RH also 
LSB certified?


In case you need to know, I am compiling a list of LSB certified Linux 
just for comparison as to who would want to be LSB certified.  Just to 
see if it matters to ppl if it matters to be certified.






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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Morten Nilsen

Nicholas wrote:

Just to see if it matters to ppl if it matters to be certified.


And what, pray tell, is LSB?

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