Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 2013/08/05 05:01, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Gordon Messmer > wrote: >> On 08/04/2013 10:17 PM, zGreenfelder wrote: >>> or... if it really has to be on the first Saturday and only on the first >>> Saturday, >>> then running something like >>> 15 4 1-7 * * /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh >>> >>> with the top of the monthlybk.sh script doing soemthing like >> No, really. We went over this. You don't have to modify your scripts. >>You can put the "test" in the crontab. John's example should work >> properly: >> >> 15 04 * * 6test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && >> /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh >> >> Cron will run those commands every Saturday. On the first Saturday in >> the month, "test" will succeed and the script will be run. > On the other hand, putting the test in the script - perhaps with a > command line option to override - would also keep it from doing > something wrong even if someone happens to run it manually at the > wrong time. If I were doing it, I might touch a file when starting > and check the timestamp of that to avoid running more than one even on > the right day. Sometimes the most clever way isn't really the best. > We do what Les is suggesting. Our script runs the second Saturday of the month (just to be difficult), and is broken into two parts. The part called by cron via "0 9 8-14 * *" does the checking and then calls the real script only if all the conditions are met: it's a Saturday, it's not already running, etc etc. The nice thing about this way is that in the unfortunate case that something went wrong with the cron-fire and we have to manually run the script, we can just do that on the command line without worrying about it not running because out of umpteen tests one failed and killed the execution. And, the initial script is tailored to the machine on which it runs, whereas the main script is the same on all the machines where it runs, so that's handy as well. Thanks! Miranda ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 08/04/2013 10:17 PM, zGreenfelder wrote: >> or... if it really has to be on the first Saturday and only on the first >> Saturday, >> then running something like >> 15 4 1-7 * * /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh >> >> with the top of the monthlybk.sh script doing soemthing like > > No, really. We went over this. You don't have to modify your scripts. > You can put the "test" in the crontab. John's example should work > properly: > > 15 04 * * 6test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && > /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > Cron will run those commands every Saturday. On the first Saturday in > the month, "test" will succeed and the script will be run. On the other hand, putting the test in the script - perhaps with a command line option to override - would also keep it from doing something wrong even if someone happens to run it manually at the wrong time. If I were doing it, I might touch a file when starting and check the timestamp of that to avoid running more than one even on the right day. Sometimes the most clever way isn't really the best. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 07/30/2013 04:58 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 7/30/2013 2:32 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >> 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > maybe... > > 15 04 * * 6 test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && > /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > (untested) Definitely untested! You need to escape the "%" sign, since it is special to cron. Plus, you need to prevent the date command from padding its output with a leading zero, since that would result in the illegal octal numbers 08 and 09: 15 04 * * 6 test $(date +"\%_d") -le 7 && /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 08/04/2013 10:17 PM, zGreenfelder wrote: > or... if it really has to be on the first Saturday and only on the first > Saturday, > then running something like > 15 4 1-7 * * /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > with the top of the monthlybk.sh script doing soemthing like No, really. We went over this. You don't have to modify your scripts. You can put the "test" in the crontab. John's example should work properly: 15 04 * * 6test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh Cron will run those commands every Saturday. On the first Saturday in the month, "test" will succeed and the script will be run. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Darr247 wrote: > On 2013-08-04 8:54 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > > We have already gone over this. The days columns are effectively ORed. > > So the above job runs every day from the 1st to the 7th, and every > > Saturday of the month. Read man 5 crontab to see this documented. --keith > > Right, but the proposed command doesn't make it much different... > instead of the 1st through 7th plus every Saturday as it should > currently be running, > > 15 4 1-7 * 7 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > would make it run the 1st through the 7th and every Sunday... when what > was requested was running it only the first Saturday of the month. > > It seems to me if the asker wants to run it only 1 day per month, > they're going to have to pick a day and put up with the fact that > sometimes it's going to happen during weekdays, unless they want to > twiddle with it every month. > e.g. > > 15 4 1 * * /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > should make it run only on the 1st of the month at 4:15am. (right?) > > > or... if it really has to be on the first Saturday and only on the first Saturday, then running something like 15 4 1-7 * * /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh with the top of the monthlybk.sh script doing soemthing like if [`date +%u` -eq 7 ] then echo "saturday! backup day... writing our drives with y... " else echo nah, wait till saturday. exit 0 fi rest of your backup stuff. it's not exactly elegant, but it does seem to get a fix for the original ask. -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 2013-08-04 8:54 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > We have already gone over this. The days columns are effectively ORed. > So the above job runs every day from the 1st to the 7th, and every > Saturday of the month. Read man 5 crontab to see this documented. --keith Right, but the proposed command doesn't make it much different... instead of the 1st through 7th plus every Saturday as it should currently be running, 15 4 1-7 * 7 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh would make it run the 1st through the 7th and every Sunday... when what was requested was running it only the first Saturday of the month. It seems to me if the asker wants to run it only 1 day per month, they're going to have to pick a day and put up with the fact that sometimes it's going to happen during weekdays, unless they want to twiddle with it every month. e.g. 15 4 1 * * /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh should make it run only on the 1st of the month at 4:15am. (right?) Anyway, thanks for the reply. :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 2013-08-04, Darr247 wrote: > On 2013-08-04 2:59 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > > 15 4 1-7 * 7 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > > Can you please point out what's wrong with > > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > that makes it run every saturday instead of only the first saturday of > the month? We have already gone over this. The days columns are effectively ORed. So the above job runs every day from the 1st to the 7th, and every Saturday of the month. Read man 5 crontab to see this documented. --keith -- kkeller-use...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 2013-08-04 2:59 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > 15 4 1-7 * 7 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh Can you please point out what's wrong with 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh that makes it run every saturday instead of only the first saturday of the month? (Going by the breakout matrix provided in your reply, it looks like your solution should make it run the first Sunday of every month.) Thanks! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 07/30/2013 04:43 PM, mcclnx mcc wrote: > we have CENTOS 5.5 on DELL server. One of our script need run on first > Saturday every month. > > We have following setup on cron job but it run every Saturday. > > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > >Any one know how to fix it? > > Thanks. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > 1 2 3 4 5 /root/backup.sh * * * * * command to be executed - - - - - | | | | | | | | | - Day of week (0 - 7) (Sunday=0 or 7) | | | --- Month (1 - 12) | | - Day of month (1 - 31) | --- Hour (0 - 23) - Minute (0 - 59) 15 4 1-7 * 7 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 08:52:02AM -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote: > As Keith said, it's because the conditions are OR'd. A careful reading of > crontab(5) shows that the algorithm is [minute AND hour AND (restricted day > of week OR restricted day of month) AND month]. Day of week and day of > month only restrict independently when one or both is "*". The manpage explicitly says Note: The day of a command's execution can be specified by two fields -- day of month, and day of week. If both fields are restricted (ie, aren't *), the command will be run when either field matches the cur- rent time. For example, "30 4 1,15 * 5" would cause a command to be run at 4:30 am on the 1st and 15th of each month, plus every Friday. -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 7/31/2013 8:35 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > I agree with the original poster: why doesn't his work, which says 6 in > the location for day of week, which is Sat.? I'd think it meet the > criteria "it's somewhere between the 1st and the 7th of the month, and > it's a Sat", and that I think should be the same as yours as someone said, the dao of week field is 'or' -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
Tony Molloy wrote: > On Tuesday 30 July 2013 22:58:34 John R Pierce wrote: >> On 7/30/2013 2:32 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >> > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh Ok, I just mentioned this to my manager, and he told me why: he said he'd been bitten by this before, and what's happening is that the logic of cron is odd: it's an OR, *not* and AND, so it's saying "if it's a Sat, *or* if it's the first seven days of the month mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:35 AM, wrote: > > I agree with the original poster: why doesn't his work, which says 6 in > the location for day of week, which is Sat.? I'd think it meet the > criteria "it's somewhere between the 1st and the 7th of the month, and > it's a Sat", and that I think should be the same as yours > As Keith said, it's because the conditions are OR'd. A careful reading of crontab(5) shows that the algorithm is [minute AND hour AND (restricted day of week OR restricted day of month) AND month]. Day of week and day of month only restrict independently when one or both is "*". ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
Tony Molloy wrote: > On Tuesday 30 July 2013 22:58:34 John R Pierce wrote: >> On 7/30/2013 2:32 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >> > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh >> >> maybe... >> >> 15 04 * * 6 test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && >> /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh >> >> (untested) > > Run an incremental backup every day of the month except sundays > > 03 03 1-31 * * test `date +\%a` != Sun && /usr/local/bin/backup-rsch- > inc > > > Run a full backup on the first sunday of the month > > 07 03 1-7 * * test `date +\%a` = Sun && /usr/local/bin/backup-rsch- > full I agree with the original poster: why doesn't his work, which says 6 in the location for day of week, which is Sat.? I'd think it meet the criteria "it's somewhere between the 1st and the 7th of the month, and it's a Sat", and that I think should be the same as yours makr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 22:58:34 John R Pierce wrote: > On 7/30/2013 2:32 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > maybe... > > 15 04 * * 6 test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && > /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > (untested) Run an incremental backup every day of the month except sundays 03 03 1-31 * * test `date +\%a` != Sun && /usr/local/bin/backup-rsch- inc Run a full backup on the first sunday of the month 07 03 1-7 * * test `date +\%a` = Sun && /usr/local/bin/backup-rsch- full Tony -- Linux mufc.tonyshome.ie 2.6.32-358.14.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 16 23:51:20 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 7/30/2013 2:32 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh maybe... 15 04 * * 6 test $(date +"%d") -le 07 && /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh (untested) -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
>From: mcclnx mcc > >we have CENTOS 5.5 on DELL server. One of our script need run on first >Saturday every month. > >We have following setup on cron job but it run every Saturday. > >15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > >Any one know how to fix it? That's pretty clever, and it looks like it should work. Maybe something is taking priority? I'd try some experimentation. Try: 15 04 1-7 6 touch /tmp/foo.test 15 04 1-7 * touch /tmp/foo.test 15 04 1-7 * * touch /tmp/foo.test 15 04 * * 6 touch /tmp/foo.test etc. It might take a while, but you'll find it eventually! I had a similar problem with Debian, but it turned out to be a weird timezone issue confusing me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 2013-07-30, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> On 7/30/2013 1:43 PM, mcclnx mcc wrote: >>> >>> 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > > It certainly doesn't. However, I'm surprised the o/p's crontab entry > *doesn't* work: it should run only on Sat, and only on when it's somewhere > between the 1st and the 7th, which could only be the first Sat. The conditions are ORd, so the job should run every Saturday and every day from the first to the seventh (which will include a Saturday). John is right: most crons do not support "Nth X of the month" where X is a day of the week. (I don't know of any.) --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
John R Pierce wrote: > On 7/30/2013 1:43 PM, mcclnx mcc wrote: >> we have CENTOS 5.5 on DELL server. One of our script need run on first >> Saturday every month. >> >> We have following setup on cron job but it run every Saturday. >> >> 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh >> >>Any one know how to fix it? > > I don't believe cron has any concept of the first day-of-week of each > month, so you'll need to put some code into your script to exit if its > NOT the first day-of-week of each month. It certainly doesn't. However, I'm surprised the o/p's crontab entry *doesn't* work: it should run only on Sat, and only on when it's somewhere between the 1st and the 7th, which could only be the first Sat. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] run script on cron job only run on first Saturdat every month???
On 7/30/2013 1:43 PM, mcclnx mcc wrote: > we have CENTOS 5.5 on DELL server. One of our script need run on first > Saturday every month. > > We have following setup on cron job but it run every Saturday. > > 15 04 1-7 * 6 /home/app/oracle/backup/monthlybk.sh > >Any one know how to fix it? I don't believe cron has any concept of the first day-of-week of each month, so you'll need to put some code into your script to exit if its NOT the first day-of-week of each month. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
