Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Sun, March 1, 2015 8:02 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 03/01/15 10:44, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey all,

 I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32 bit
 machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.

 On my 32 bit machine:

 [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
   inet addr:192.168.15.105

 When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine, 192.168.15.101:

 scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
 /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>>
>>> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine, or just
>>> giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
>>>
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>>> /home/mlapier
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with different
>>> name) you will need to end directory with forward slash both on local
>>> and
>>> remote, like:
>>>
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
>>>
>>> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
>>> backslash...)
>>>
>>> Valeri
>>>

 It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/
 to
 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want all that, I just want the
 .thunderbird folder and all it's contents.

 The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for this
 user so that's not the issue.

 When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I misreading
 the
 FM or is something weird going on here?

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>>
>> Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>> /home/mlapier
>>
>> worked.
>>
>> If the destination also contains a dot or other such character then put
>> the destination in quotes too:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>> "/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>>
>> but only include the destination directory if the destination directory
>> does not yet exist otherwise you will get a copy of the source directory
>> inside the destination directory like this:
>>
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/.thunderbird
>>
>
> Wow!  I didn't mean to start such a spirited discussion. ;-)
>
> Thank you all for your help and explanations.  Very enlightening.  Maybe
> I'll try out the rsync example when I copy all the user homes across.  I
> would have to know all the user passwords in order to use scp to copy
> over home directories that are not mine.  I already use rsync to do my
> nightly backups.
>

If you do rsync as root (on both remote and local machines), then you do
not need to know user's passwords. If you maintain machines under your
administration so that the same user/group has the same user ID/ group ID
on all machines, you can run "rsync -avu /from remote:/path/where", and it
will preserve UID/GID, timestamps and "types", e.g. a symlink will stay a
symlink,...

Do not consider rsync a good backup (even if you use -b "backup" flag
which preserves older copies by appending tilde). Real backup is you
friend. Depending you the park of machines you maintain you may use
something like backuppc (for small number of hosts) or bacula for large
number of machines. There are many to choose from, others may suggest good
ones they use.

Good luck!

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 03/01/15 10:44, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32 bit
>>> machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>>>
>>> On my 32 bit machine:
>>>
>>> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
>>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>>>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>>>
>>> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine, 192.168.15.101:
>>>
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>
>> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine, or just
>> giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird" /home/mlapier
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with different
>> name) you will need to end directory with forward slash both on local and
>> remote, like:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
>>
>> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
>> backslash...)
>>
>> Valeri
>>
>>>
>>> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/ to
>>> 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want all that, I just want the
>>> .thunderbird folder and all it's contents.
>>>
>>> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for this
>>> user so that's not the issue.
>>>
>>> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I misreading the
>>> FM or is something weird going on here?
>>>
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>>
>> 
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>> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
>> University of Chicago
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> 
> Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird" /home/mlapier
> 
> worked.
> 
> If the destination also contains a dot or other such character then put
> the destination in quotes too:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> "/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> 
> but only include the destination directory if the destination directory
> does not yet exist otherwise you will get a copy of the source directory
> inside the destination directory like this:
> 
> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/.thunderbird
> 

Wow!  I didn't mean to start such a spirited discussion. ;-)

Thank you all for your help and explanations.  Very enlightening.  Maybe
I'll try out the rsync example when I copy all the user homes across.  I
would have to know all the user passwords in order to use scp to copy
over home directories that are not mine.  I already use rsync to do my
nightly backups.

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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Sun, March 1, 2015 11:08 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 10:58:30AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> Why "slash": /.thunderbird in case of your example? Because if you do
>> not
>> specify absolute path beginning with / the ssh daemon prepends your
>> relative path with its `pwd` it runs in, and its `pwd` is "/")
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...
>
> Are you saying that if I run 'scp remotehost:.bashrc ." it will copy
> /.bashrc from remotehost, regardless of whether my $HOME on remotehost
> is /home/username ?
>

Well, I was wrong, and somebody already corrected the stupid idiot (me). I
forgot that the worker process is started as user=remote user with pwd=
user's home directory. So what I said about absolute path _necessary_ it
total nonsense. ;-( I guess I need more coffee in the morning on Sunday...

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Sun, March 1, 2015 11:14 am, J Martin Rushton wrote:
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> 
>
>> Why "slash": /.thunderbird in case of your example? Because if you
>> do not specify absolute path beginning with / the ssh daemon
>> prepends your relative path with its `pwd` it runs in, and its
>> `pwd` is "/")
>
> Not so.  Consider:

Indeed you are right. My bad. It starts worker process as user=remote user
with pwd his home directory. Thanks for correcting the stupid idiot (which
will be me)

>
> $ ssh pi-1 pwd
> /home/jmr
>
> If you examine what is happening, the daemon creates an unprivileged
> process for the user, and that process performs the operation.  Were
> it to be otherwise you would have a gaping hole in security.
>
> $ ssh pi-1 ps -f
> UIDPID  PPID  C STIME TTY  TIME CMD
> jmr   3054  3050  0 04:22 ?00:00:00 sshd: jmr@notty
> jmr   3055  3054  0 04:22 ?00:00:00 ps -f
> $ ssh pi-1 ps -ef | grep ssh
> root  2432 1  0 Feb28 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
> root  3056  2432  0 04:23 ?00:00:00 sshd: jmr [priv]
> jmr   3060  3056  0 04:23 ?00:00:00 sshd: jmr@notty
>
> The first command shows the unprivileged process shelling out the ps
> command as expected.  Note that the parent daemon is running as
> jmr@notty.  The second command shows master daemon, the privileged
> child to handle the connection and the unprivileged jmr@notty.
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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread J Martin Rushton
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> Why "slash": /.thunderbird in case of your example? Because if you
> do not specify absolute path beginning with / the ssh daemon
> prepends your relative path with its `pwd` it runs in, and its
> `pwd` is "/")

Not so.  Consider:

$ ssh pi-1 pwd
/home/jmr

If you examine what is happening, the daemon creates an unprivileged
process for the user, and that process performs the operation.  Were
it to be otherwise you would have a gaping hole in security.

$ ssh pi-1 ps -f
UIDPID  PPID  C STIME TTY  TIME CMD
jmr   3054  3050  0 04:22 ?00:00:00 sshd: jmr@notty
jmr   3055  3054  0 04:22 ?00:00:00 ps -f
$ ssh pi-1 ps -ef | grep ssh
root  2432 1  0 Feb28 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root  3056  2432  0 04:23 ?00:00:00 sshd: jmr [priv]
jmr   3060  3056  0 04:23 ?00:00:00 sshd: jmr@notty

The first command shows the unprivileged process shelling out the ps
command as expected.  Note that the parent daemon is running as
jmr@notty.  The second command shows master daemon, the privileged
child to handle the connection and the unprivileged jmr@notty.
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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 10:58:30AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Why "slash": /.thunderbird in case of your example? Because if you do not
> specify absolute path beginning with / the ssh daemon prepends your
> relative path with its `pwd` it runs in, and its `pwd` is "/")

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...

Are you saying that if I run 'scp remotehost:.bashrc ." it will copy
/.bashrc from remotehost, regardless of whether my $HOME on remotehost
is /home/username ?

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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Sun, March 1, 2015 10:22 am, Richard wrote:
>
>
>  Original Message 
>> Date: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:44:08 -0500
>> From: Mark LaPierre 
>> To: centos@centos.org, Mark LaPierre 
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)
>>
>> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32
>>>> bit machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>>>>
>>>> On my 32 bit machine:
>>>>
>>>> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
>>>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>>>>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>>>>
>>>> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine,
>>>> 192.168.15.101:
>>>>
>>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>>
>>> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine,
>>> or just giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
>>>
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>>> /home/mlapier
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with
>>> different name) you will need to end directory with forward slash
>>> both on local and remote, like:
>>>
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
>>>
>>> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
>>> backslash...)
>>>
>>> Valeri
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105:
>>>> /home/mlapier/ to 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want
>>>> all that, I just want the .thunderbird folder and all it's
>>>> contents.
>>>>
>>>> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for
>>>> this user so that's not the issue.
>>>>
>>>> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I
>>>> misreading the FM or is something weird going on here?
>>>>
>>
>> Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>> /home/mlapier
>>
>> worked.
>>
>> If the destination also contains a dot or other such character
>> then put the destination in quotes too:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>> "/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>>
>> but only include the destination directory if the destination
>> directory does not yet exist otherwise you will get a copy of the
>> source directory inside the destination directory like this:
>>
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/.thunderbird
>
>
> The problem is/was the space, after the colon, in your command:
>
>   scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier
>
> quotes, slashes, etc. are totally unnecessary.
>
> If you are keeping the destination name the same as the source, you
> only need to use a "." (dot) for the target (whether the destination
> directory/file already exists or not), not the full name. You only
> need a path on the target side if you are trying to put the
> directory/file in other than the home directory of the user you are
> logging in as.
>
> So, assuming you were in your home directory on the source side, all
> you needed is/was:
>
>scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:.thunderbird .
>

Well, you are right about dot for local argument, namely "dot" is expanded
on local machine into "path to current directory". For remote machine,
however, you do have to specify absolute path to the directory you intend
to rsync or scp. In your example remote directory quite likely does not
exist, as your command is exact equivalent of this:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:/.thunderbird .

whereas you may want to have:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:/home/remote_user_name/.thunderbird .

Why "slash": /.thunderbird in case of your example? Because if you do not
specify absolute path beginning with / the ssh daemon prepends your
relative path with its `pwd` it runs in, and its `pwd` is "/")

Another way to specify remote user's home directory would be:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"~/.thunderbird" .

and here quotes prevent "~" from being expanded on local machine, thus "~"
is passed verbatim to remote machine and is expanded on remote machine
into path to remote user's home directory. I hope I didn't mess up
anything here ;-)

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Richard


 Original Message 
> Date: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:44:08 -0500
> From: Mark LaPierre 
> To: centos@centos.org, Mark LaPierre 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)
>
> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32
>>> bit machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>>> 
>>> On my 32 bit machine:
>>> 
>>> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
>>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>>>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>>> 
>>> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine,
>>> 192.168.15.101:
>>> 
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>> 
>> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine,
>> or just giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
>> 
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>> /home/mlapier
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with
>> different name) you will need to end directory with forward slash
>> both on local and remote, like:
>> 
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
>> 
>> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
>> backslash...)
>> 
>> Valeri
>> 
>>> 
>>> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105:
>>> /home/mlapier/ to 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want
>>> all that, I just want the .thunderbird folder and all it's
>>> contents.
>>> 
>>> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for
>>> this user so that's not the issue.
>>> 
>>> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I
>>> misreading the FM or is something weird going on here?
>>> 
>>> --
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Sr System Administrator
>> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
>> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
>> University of Chicago
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> 
> Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> /home/mlapier
> 
> worked.
> 
> If the destination also contains a dot or other such character
> then put the destination in quotes too:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> "/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> 
> but only include the destination directory if the destination
> directory does not yet exist otherwise you will get a copy of the
> source directory inside the destination directory like this:
> 
> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/.thunderbird


The problem is/was the space, after the colon, in your command:

  scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier

quotes, slashes, etc. are totally unnecessary.

If you are keeping the destination name the same as the source, you
only need to use a "." (dot) for the target (whether the destination
directory/file already exists or not), not the full name. You only
need a path on the target side if you are trying to put the
directory/file in other than the home directory of the user you are
logging in as.

So, assuming you were in your home directory on the source side, all
you needed is/was:

   scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:.thunderbird .


period.


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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Sun, March 1, 2015 9:44 am, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32 bit
>>> machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>>>
>>> On my 32 bit machine:
>>>
>>> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
>>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>>>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>>>
>>> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine, 192.168.15.101:
>>>
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>>
>> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine, or just
>> giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
>> /home/mlapier
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with different
>> name) you will need to end directory with forward slash both on local
>> and
>> remote, like:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
>>
>> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
>> backslash...)
>>
>> Valeri
>>
>>>
>>> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/
>>> to
>>> 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want all that, I just want the
>>> .thunderbird folder and all it's contents.
>>>
>>> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for this
>>> user so that's not the issue.
>>>
>>> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I misreading the
>>> FM or is something weird going on here?

>
> Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:
>
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird" /home/mlapier
>
> worked.
>
> If the destination also contains a dot or other such character then put
> the destination in quotes too:
>
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> "/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"

Theoretically, you don't need to "escape with backslashes" or put in
quotes these things for paths on local machine. As everything that is not
escaped is expanded on local machine, this doesn't screw things up (the
best example: "~" is expanded into the value of path to user's home
directory. if it is escaped in the remote argument, the symbol "~" is
passed verbatim to the remote machine and is expanded on remote machine
(which you probably intend when using "~" in remote argument). Otherwise:
if it is not escaped, your shell on local machine expand "~" the way it
should be on local machine and passes the result of expansion to remote
machine, which may be different.

>
> but only include the destination directory if the destination directory
> does not yet exist otherwise you will get a copy of the source directory
> inside the destination directory like this:
>
> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/.thunderbird


True, but only if you do not appends directory names with forward slashes.
However, if you append the directory in both arguments with forward slash,
what you say will not happen. E.g., say, /destination does exists, then:

rsync -avu /source/ /destination/

will result in /destination updated with all new stuff in /source (unless
something extra or newer is there in /destination, /desination becomes the
same as /source).

However, if you do not append directory name with forward slashes, the
behavior will be different, and will be exactly as you have described:

rsync -avu /source /destination

if /destination directory exists will put /source inside /destination.

So: appending directory name with slash changes rsync behavior as in
examples above. Is there anything I missed (or "messed" ;-) - anybody?

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread J Martin Rushton
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On 01/03/15 15:44, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6
>>> 32 bit machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>>> 

>>> 
>>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird 
>>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>> 

> 
> Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> /home/mlapier
> 
> worked.


Assuming the examples have been accurately copied, then the problem is
an extra space.  The first example is trying to copy
mlapier@192.168.15.105: to /home/mlapier/.thunderbird (with the third
parameter /home/mlapier/.thunderbird ignored).  The successful example
is trying to copy mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
to /home/mlapier which is what I assume you intended.
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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior(SOLVED)

2015-03-01 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/26/15 19:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32 bit
>> machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>>
>> On my 32 bit machine:
>>
>> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>>
>> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine, 192.168.15.101:
>>
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
> 
> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine, or just
> giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird" /home/mlapier
> 
> ?
> 
> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with different
> name) you will need to end directory with forward slash both on local and
> remote, like:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
> 
> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
> backslash...)
> 
> Valeri
> 
>>
>> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/ to
>> 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want all that, I just want the
>> .thunderbird folder and all it's contents.
>>
>> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for this
>> user so that's not the issue.
>>
>> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I misreading the
>> FM or is something weird going on here?
>>
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> 

Putting the source path in quotes, because of the dot, like this:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird" /home/mlapier

worked.

If the destination also contains a dot or other such character then put
the destination in quotes too:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"

but only include the destination directory if the destination directory
does not yet exist otherwise you will get a copy of the source directory
inside the destination directory like this:

/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/.thunderbird

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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior

2015-02-26 Thread James Hogarth
On 27 Feb 2015 01:53, "Always Learning"  wrote:
>
> scp -P 12345 -p $file aaa.example.com://$file
>
> Note the colon and 2 slashes.
>

You don't need any slashes

The response about the space after the colon was right this and the last
time OP posted... Hopefully he reads it this time.
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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior

2015-02-26 Thread Always Learning

On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 01:15 +, Richard wrote:


> As I believe was suggested by someone when you asked about this a
> few days ago, the space that you have after the colon:
> 
>   scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/m...
> 
> is the source of your problem. I just tested and confirmed it.

When transferring files between machines I use this (in a BASH file)

scp -P 12345 -p $file aaa.example.com://$file

Note the colon and 2 slashes.


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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior

2015-02-26 Thread Richard


 Original Message 
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2015 18:45:34 -0600
> From: Valeri Galtsev 
> To: CentOS mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior
>
> 
> On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32
>> bit machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>> 
>> On my 32 bit machine:
>> 
>> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>> 
>> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine,
>> 192.168.15.101:
>> 
>> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
>> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
> 
> How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine, or
> just giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird"
> /home/mlapier
> 
> ?
> 
> Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with
> different name) you will need to end directory with forward slash
> both on local and remote, like:
> 
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird/
> 
> (this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
> backslash...)
> 
> Valeri
> 
>> 
>> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105:
>> /home/mlapier/ to 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want
>> all that, I just want the .thunderbird folder and all it's
>> contents.
>> 
>> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for
>> this user so that's not the issue.
>> 
>> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I
>> misreading the FM or is something weird going on here?
>> 

As I believe was suggested by someone when you asked about this a
few days ago, the space that you have after the colon:

  scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/m...

is the source of your problem. I just tested and confirmed it.

Some other notes: with the "mlapier@192.168.15.105" you'll, by
default, be "in" the home directory of mlapier on the remote
machine. So you don't need the "...:/home/mlapier/" pathing. Also,
if you are in your (mlapier) home directory on the new machine when
you are doing this you again won't need the pathing.

So, I think you should be able to do just:

   scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:.thunderbird .

or at most:

   scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:.thunderbird /home/mlapier/.
   
If, per chance, you wanted to change the directory name on the
transfer you'd need to specify it, rather than just the ".",
otherwise the "." will simply put directory on the target machine
with the same name as the original.



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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior

2015-02-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Thu, February 26, 2015 6:34 pm, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I'm trying to copy configuration files from my old CentOS 6.6 32 bit
> machine to my new CentOS 6.6 64 bit machine.
>
> On my 32 bit machine:
>
> [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ ifconfig
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:DB:E5:4E:9F
>   inet addr:192.168.15.105
>
> When I issue this command on my new 64 bit machine, 192.168.15.101:
>
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird
> /home/mlapier/.thunderbird

How about escaping dot (with backslash) for the remote machine, or just
giving the whole path for remote machine in quotes:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird" /home/mlapier

?

Also, if you want to specify destination directory (say with different
name) you will need to end directory with forward slash both on local and
remote, like:

scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105:"/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/" \
/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/

(this should be one line which didn't fit for me in one line hence
backslash...)

Valeri

>
> It copies all directories and files in 192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/ to
> 192.168.15.101: /home/mlapier.  I don't want all that, I just want the
> .thunderbird folder and all it's contents.
>
> The user and group account numbers match on the two machines for this
> user so that's not the issue.
>
> When I RTFM this is what I thought it said to do.  I'm I misreading the
> FM or is something weird going on here?
>
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Re: [CentOS] scp -rp behavior

2015-02-21 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 08:08:23PM -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> scp -pr mlapier@192.168.15.105: /home/mlapier/.thunderbird

Why do you have a space after the :  ?  Get rid of it.

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