Re: [CentOS-docs] To do List

2008-04-05 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 5:03 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 00:25 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
   John wrote:
  
   
I could do the nvidia install it is pretty simple. I'm just not clear on
the Updating deal the guy on the regular list was talking about this
week. I'll research it further for the legacy and new cards. I may try
to do the dkms version. I said try.
  
   I could maybe assist with nvidia/dkms from RPMForge method. I have both
   the legacy 96xx and current 9755 series dkms RPMForge packaged drivers
   in use at present.

  Sure we could do that no problem. OK I think maybe what I am thinking of
  is writing it in text. Then we can collaberate on it then add the
  screenshots etc for the dkms part?

And it would be great if someone can write about the kmdl method
offered by ATrpms.  In some situations it is a better choice than the
dkms.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] To do List

2008-04-05 Thread Ned Slider

Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 5:03 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 00:25 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
  John wrote:

 Sure we could do that no problem. OK I think maybe what I am thinking of
 is writing it in text. Then we can collaberate on it then add the
 screenshots etc for the dkms part?


The Wiki is a collaborative tool so we can use that. Once a page is 
started, others can add sections to it. It need not be publicly linked 
until ready for public consumption.


An outline before we start might be useful. There appears to be 3 methods:

1. Install direct from nvidia
2. Install from RPMForge - dkms/nvidia rpm
3. Install from ATrpms

A section covering each. The next (obvious) question a user will 
probably ask is which method should I use? I'm not best equipped to 
answer that or how best that is dealt with.


John - have you created a Wiki user account yet? Once you have, please 
post your Wiki username to the list and Ralph can get you added. Users 
don't initially have permissions to do anything until Ralph adds them (a 
practice designed to limit spam etc and hopefully not too restrictive to 
genuine contributors!).




And it would be great if someone can write about the kmdl method
offered by ATrpms.  In some situations it is a better choice than the
dkms.



Sorry, I'm not familiar with that so it won't be me :)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] To do List

2008-04-05 Thread John
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 17:41 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Akemi Yagi wrote:
 
   On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 5:03 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 00:25 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
  John wrote:
 
   An outline before we start might be useful. There appears to be 3 methods:
 
   1. Install direct from nvidia
   2. Install from RPMForge - dkms/nvidia rpm
   3. Install from ATrpms
 
   And it would be great if someone can write about the kmdl method
   offered by ATrpms.  In some situations it is a better choice than the
   dkms.
  
   Sorry, I'm not familiar with that so it won't be me :)
 
 If no one can write, I would try though I have used it only once...

I'll have a look see at that one also. I'll research it and go to the
ATrpms site.
 
 Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] becoming root

2008-04-05 Thread John
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 02:11 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
 Hi List,
 
 I've just drafted a FAQ/mini-HOWTO on becoming root as this is a topic I 
 see come up time and time again.
 
 Perhaps someone with a reasonable understanding could check it for 
 technical correctness, and if anyone would like to offer comments/feedback??
 
 Any suggestions as to where might be an appropriate home for this on the 
 Wiki?
 
 Regards,
 
 Ned
 (attached below)
 
 
 
 *How to become root*
 
 Many commands can only be run as the root user so to run these commands 
 we need to become root. To do this, we use the su command (substitute 
 user).
 
 The su command takes the following format:
 
 su - user
 
 but most commonly we will use su to become the root user:
 
 su - root
 
 If no username is specified, then the root user is assumed, so the above 
 is often shortened to:
 
 su
 
 or
 
 su -
 
 but the above are NOT the same thing.
 
 Often a user will become root using just 'su', try to run a command (eg, 
 ifconfig), and get a 'command not found' error:
 
 su
 Password:
 ifconfig
 bash: ifconfig: command not found
 
 The reason is that regular system users and the root user have different 
 PATHS (you can view a users PATH with 'echo $PATH'). When you type a 
 Linux command, the shell with search the users PATH to try to locate the 
 command to run. It starts searching each directory on the PATH until a 
 match is found. Commands for regular users are mostly located in 
 /usr/local/bin, /usr/bin, and /bin. However, root commands are mostly 
 located in /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin, and /sbin and root's PATH 
 reflects this difference.
 
 When you become root by using 'su -', you also adopt root's PATH whereas 
 using just 'su' retains the original users PATH, hence why becoming root 
 using just 'su' and trying to run a command located in /usr/local/sbin, 
 /usr/sbin, or /sbin results in a 'command not found' error.
 
 So you either need to specify the full PATH to the command if you just 
 used 'su' (eg, /sbin/ifconfig) or use the full 'su -'.

Ever noticed in Red Hats Docs the full path to the command in question??
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/sbin/mii-tool
And boy is Ubunto and Debian confusing.
It sounds good.
And it is better than the Debian way I think. just my two cents.

 
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