Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[Scott Robbins]

On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 10:22:31AM -0400, John wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba
> 
> 
> Nice article at http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/adsamba.html. Care
> to add to the Cent Wiki how to do Roaming User Profiles? For AD of course.
> Hey you volunteered Good explanations on it also.
> 
> JohnStanley

Shucks John, you have to trim more aggressively, I almost missed the
compliment.  :)

I had thought about offering the article--my only caveat is that it is
so close to the samba wiki's version that I'm not sure if it would annoy
them. 

As for roaming profiles, I haven't done it, so I don't feel capable
of doing that one. 


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Kickstart Tips and Tricks

[Bart Schaefer]

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Marcus Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 'Then inside the kickstart config itself where you device the network
> interfaces using the network statement.
>
> What does the first sentence mean? Or is it incomplete?

Replace "device" with "define", and probably also remove "where".

"Then inside the kickstart config itself you define the network
interfaces using the network statement."
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[Ralph Angenendt]

John wrote:
[something]

It would be great if you could compose your mails in a way so that a
recipient can see which parts of mail came from you and which ones came
from other people.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[prabhat kumar]

Is there any any wiki page which will guide or help me for this.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Ralph Angenendt
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> prabhat kumar wrote:
> > How do I do this?
>
> Wrong list? centos-docs is for discussing CentOS documentation (like the
> wiki or release notes), you should take that problem to the centos list.
>
> See .
>
> Cheers,
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> Ralph
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RE: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[John]

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On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
> Akemi Yagi wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Will F. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi Fabian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
>>>
>>>

>>> Getting deeper into the advanced topics of Samba "explaining how to
configure the backend (old smbpasswd, newer tdbsam, or ldap when acting as a
pdc), how to integrate in existing Samba/Windows domain/AD , explaining
Filesystem ACLs" seem better suited for samba.org since anyone who wants to
implement that really needs intimate knowledge of their environment. I don't
think they would want to read a summarized version in a CentOS wiki.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -will
>>
>> I agree with your view.  I would suggest you get started with a draft 
>> and we can all join in and make it most suitable for CentOS users.
>>
>> Akemi
>>
>
> Agreed - many hands make light work for a task like this.
>
> As a thought - I'm wondering if the topic needs slitting up into 
> multiple sections/pages? Maybe something like:
>
> An introduction/overview to samba (users, file permissions etc) Basic 
> samba setup with example (security=share) Group shares with examples 
> (security=user) Printing AD integration etc ...

That seems to me to be the best way.   Let's try to put ourselves in the
shoes of someone who just tried to set up samba.  Ok, he can go to the basic
guide that Will writes.  (Or anyone--and yeah, those of us using older
versions of EMC Celerra at work are stuck on CentOS 4.4--I've lost track, I
think it was Will who mentioned they'd overlooked people using older
versions, but as we're talking about Samba, it's appropriate.  5.x versions
don't work, and I haven't yet tried with later versions of 4.x, though I
have to once my current project is done.)

Ok, that's the home user.  Now come the sysadmins, and for them, something
like AD might be important.  So, they go to the CentOS wiki, and they see,
aha, an AD article. (If anyone is interested, I have my own--though about 96
percent is from the samba wiki--at
http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/adsamba.html. ) And so
forth--therefore, I think this idea is excellent. 


Nice article at http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/adsamba.html. Care
to add to the Cent Wiki how to do Roaming User Profiles? For AD of course.
Hey you volunteered Good explanations on it also.

JohnStanley
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RE: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[John]

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On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
> Akemi Yagi wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Will F. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi Fabian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
>>>
>>>

>>> Getting deeper into the advanced topics of Samba "explaining how to
configure the backend (old smbpasswd, newer tdbsam, or ldap when acting as a
pdc), how to integrate in existing Samba/Windows domain/AD , explaining
Filesystem ACLs" seem better suited for samba.org since anyone who wants to
implement that really needs intimate knowledge of their environment. I don't
think they would want to read a summarized version in a CentOS wiki.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -will
>>
>> I agree with your view.  I would suggest you get started with a draft 
>> and we can all join in and make it most suitable for CentOS users.
>>
>> Akemi
>>
>
> Agreed - many hands make light work for a task like this.
>
> As a thought - I'm wondering if the topic needs slitting up into 
> multiple sections/pages? Maybe something like:
>
> An introduction/overview to samba (users, file permissions etc) Basic 
> samba setup with example (security=share) Group shares with examples 
> (security=user) Printing AD integration etc ...
---
How about Security=AD err domain How To; See previous Post on this.

JohnStanley
---

That seems to me to be the best way.   Let's try to put ourselves in the
shoes of someone who just tried to set up samba.  Ok, he can go to the basic
guide that Will writes.  (Or anyone--and yeah, those of us using older
versions of EMC Celerra at work are stuck on CentOS 4.4--I've lost track, I
think it was Will who mentioned they'd overlooked people using older
versions, but as we're talking about Samba, it's appropriate.  5.x versions
don't work, and I haven't yet tried with later versions of 4.x, though I
have to once my current project is done.)

Ok, that's the home user.  Now come the sysadmins, and for them, something
like AD might be important.  So, they go to the CentOS wiki, and they see,
aha, an AD article. (If anyone is interested, I have my own--though about 96
percent is from the samba wiki--at
http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/adsamba.html. ) And so
forth--therefore, I think this idea is excellent. 

I would also make the strong recommendation that EVERY article about samba
makes reference to the troubleshooting guides CentOS provides in the
/usr/share/doc/ directory--it's also on the samba website at
http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/diagnosis.html

That can really be an invaluable resource for all levels of user.  

>
> That way folks could chip in more easily on the bits they feel able to 
> contribute towards and it needn't seem like a herculean task from the 
> outset.
>
> Thoughts?

See above. :)

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RE: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[John]

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Hi Fabian,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

It always seemed to me that HowTo pages catered to those people who didn't
want to read "millions of pages of manpages" and just wanted things to work
now. Turnkey solutions. I completely agree that an article on how to setup a
simple public share is REALLY easy and all it takes is a quick Google search
or skim of the smb.conf man page. But at the same time, so are the rest of
the articles. My vision for this HowTo is really giving the yum command to
grab the package, a basic smb.conf, the location on where to put it, and the
service name on how to start it. That way someone can get a share up in less
than 5 minutes. I believe these are the more CentOS-related bits of Samba.

Getting deeper into the advanced topics of Samba "explaining how to
configure the backend (old smbpasswd, newer tdbsam, or ldap when acting as a
pdc), how to integrate in existing Samba/Windows domain/AD , explaining
Filesystem ACLs" seem better suited for samba.org since anyone who wants to
implement that really needs intimate knowledge of their environment. I don't
think they would want to read a summarized version in a CentOS wiki.  

Comments?

Thanks,
-will
-
I think a real good How To on Active Directory Integration would do a great
justice / That is with AD as the Primary and Secondary Domain Controller.
There's a lot more of Unix/Linux Integration in a Windows Domain that meets
the eye than what people realize. Especially in my line of work.



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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:33:24 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

Ned Slider wrote:
> Will F. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently found a need for me to setup a Samba share for some quick 
>> and dirty file copying. I already knew how to do this, but was 
>> wondering if it would be worth while to add it to the tips & tricks 
>> or howto section.
>>
>> Thanks! -will
> 
> Hi Will,
> 
> I was recently discussing with Akemi (toracat) the need for some Samba 
> documentation on the Wiki as we see quite a few questions on the 
> forums from new users, so I'd say go for it.
> 
> Ralph may need to give you permissions or create a page for you (please).
> 
> Ned

Hmm, let's coordinate first about Samba .. if there is *one* package that
can be configured in multiple ways to do the same thing, that's surely samba
;-) To be honnest, just writing a 'how to create a share on samba' wiki page
is not enough (my opinion) .. but explaining how to configure the backend
(old smbpasswd, newer tdbsam, or ldap when acting as a pdc), how to
integrate in existing Samba/Windows domain/AD , explaining Filesystem ACLs .
etc .. is duplicating the official howto ..
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[Akemi Yagi]

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> prabhat kumar wrote:
>> How do I do this?
>
> Wrong list? centos-docs is for discussing CentOS documentation (like the
> wiki or release notes), you should take that problem to the centos list.
>
> See .

Or the samba mailing list at:

https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[Ralph Angenendt]

prabhat kumar wrote:
> How do I do this?

Wrong list? centos-docs is for discussing CentOS documentation (like the
wiki or release notes), you should take that problem to the centos list.

See .

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[prabhat kumar]

Hi Everyone,
I have a few windows XP professional machine and a inux server running
machine with samba,
Now,
I want to make a centralized XP  user's using samba server for user
authentication, as we are doing in Active Directory service.
In one word I want implement roaming profile.
 (mean suppose there is user sam, now sam can login from any windows XP
machine since samba will manage user informatation and profile along with
authentication )

How do I do this?

thanks


On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Ralph Angenendt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:

> Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> > Hmm, let's coordinate first about Samba .. if there is *one* package
> > that can be configured in multiple ways to do the same thing, that's
> > surely samba  ;-)
> > To be honnest, just writing a 'how to create a share on samba' wiki page
> > is not enough (my opinion) .. but explaining how to configure the
> > backend (old smbpasswd, newer tdbsam, or ldap when acting as a pdc), how
> > to integrate in existing Samba/Windows domain/AD , explaining Filesystem
> > ACLs . etc .. is duplicating the official howto ..
> > Other thoughts on that ?
>
> Having smacked myself rather often with a printout the official HowTo
> collection (and that hurts!), I don't think that you really can do a
> large wiki article on samba in general without writing (at least a
> chapter of a) book.
>
> Probably a series of smaller "Tips and Tricks" would be better here,
> just like the rpm page.
>
> So have a TipsAndTricks/Samba page and then have subpages off that,
> maybe?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ralph
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[CentOS-docs] Kickstart Tips and Tricks

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi,

I am currently translating the Kickstart Tips and Tricks page (and
nearly finished). Just on the last sentences I am not sure what they
mean:

'Then inside the kickstart config itself where you device the network
interfaces using the network statement. If you are using method 2 or 3
then you don't know which device actually will be used. If you don't
specify a device for the network statement anaconda will configure the
device used for the kickstart process and set it up according to your
network statement.'

What does the first sentence mean? Or is it incomplete?

Best Regards
Marcus
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

[Ralph Angenendt]

Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> Hmm, let's coordinate first about Samba .. if there is *one* package  
> that can be configured in multiple ways to do the same thing, that's  
> surely samba  ;-)
> To be honnest, just writing a 'how to create a share on samba' wiki page  
> is not enough (my opinion) .. but explaining how to configure the  
> backend (old smbpasswd, newer tdbsam, or ldap when acting as a pdc), how  
> to integrate in existing Samba/Windows domain/AD , explaining Filesystem  
> ACLs . etc .. is duplicating the official howto ..
> Other thoughts on that ?

Having smacked myself rather often with a printout the official HowTo
collection (and that hurts!), I don't think that you really can do a
large wiki article on samba in general without writing (at least a
chapter of a) book.

Probably a series of smaller "Tips and Tricks" would be better here,
just like the rpm page.

So have a TipsAndTricks/Samba page and then have subpages off that,
maybe?

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Setting up an SSL secured Webserver

[Ralph Angenendt]

Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
> On 08/31/2008 07:11 PM, Mats Karlsson wrote:
>> I agree with Will.
>>
>> The page should be changed to reflect how it's done in 5.x or forked  
>> into two pages, "The 4.x way" and "The 5.x way".
>>
>Am I missing something here? mod_ssl contains the exact same code in  
> %post in both C4.6 and C5.2. And in both cases the generated [dummy]  
> certificate leaves the system in a ready-to-be-used (although not really  
> recommended) configuration.

Yes. Maybe this page should be extended a bit so it actually shows what
has to be *in* the keys (meaning the actual dialog from openssl), so
that you run with your *own* self signed certificate and not the one
from the package?

I actually like the openssl commands on that page (as a reference). But
yes, there should be some explanation of what they actually do.

Cheers,

Ralph


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