Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS
Steve Tindall wrote: When looking for a reference to post in response to a question, I often find it hard to locate questions in the FAQs that I know exist, but sometimes that's because of the web vs. wiki FAQs issue (i.e., I'm looking in the wrong one). The problem with the FAQs on the web site is, that only a small amount of people can edit there - and those are the people who tend to have not enough time as it is at the moment. That's why the FAQs on the wiki are more current. On the other hand you can add comments to the FAQs on the web site which isn't that easy to do with the wiki. I tested some comment plugin for moin on wiki-m.centos.org, but that has one major drawback: It works fine for normal article pages (so maybe we should incorporate it into the wiki), but you cannot have more than one instance of that plugin per page. Tat means that you can only add comments to the complete FAQ section, not to single questions on that FAQ. Cheers, Ralph pgpRRqEx6QPoG.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Steve Tindall wrote: When looking for a reference to post in response to a question, I often find it hard to locate questions in the FAQs that I know exist, but sometimes that's because of the web vs. wiki FAQs issue (i.e., I'm looking in the wrong one). The problem with the FAQs on the web site is, that only a small amount of people can edit there - and those are the people who tend to have not enough time as it is at the moment. The more I think about this, and in relation to the whole WebSite2 vision, I'm wondering if a simple static page at www.centos.org is all that may be needed combined with wiki.centos.org for content/docs etc, forums.centos.org, MLs and IRC for support, and projects.centos.org/trac for the other stuff. At least with a simple static front page that say what the project is all about and links to the important areas it's not something that needs updating and thus isn't a burden on those who can least afford the time plus then the Wiki editorial group could take on much of the rest hopefully freeing up the core devs to do what only they can do. The Wiki could host much of the content that's currently on www.centos.org. Don't shoot me... just thinking out loud :D I'd be interested to hear opinion from Karanbir, Dag and others who've been active in this area recently. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas
Dag Wieers wrote: You need a RHN entitlement. So that's hardly pushing. Look at it from some other angels. - It shows people we are helping to give back to upstream (and not just reaping) - It encourages people to help CentOS as well - It shows Red Hat we are willing to help with Beta-testing even when a RHN entitlement is required, showing that we care about this sends a message. And I don't see a big problem with having this on the Download page. It clearly says test-driving, beta's, I put it at the end of the page. I think this is different than test repositories where it is much easier to make a mistake on an existing production system. I think you are missing the point completely. Pushing the beta's at someone who comes to look for CentOS as the distro is wrong. they are not there looking to help the project or to do a survey on what centos feeds upstream, they are there to get the distro, and do whatever they want with it. btw, upstream seemed quite firm on not doing so ( my impression again ) when the same issue was quite hotly contested as a sub-issue in the fedora-devel conversation about wikipedia's move to ubuntu and implications / fallouts from that. Did they discuss the availability of RHEL Betas during that conversation ? based on the emails that made it to centos-devel; yes. BTW My original change did contain a comment on what I just added. but lots of other commits dont have comments at all. making it quite hard to work out what the changes are. I guess the only way to do that is to take a large number of commits, and diff the changes between them. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS
Ned Slider wrote: The more I think about this, and in relation to the whole WebSite2 vision, I'm wondering if a simple static page at www.centos.org is all that may be needed combined with wiki.centos.org for content/docs etc, forums.centos.org, MLs and IRC for support, and projects.centos.org/trac for the other stuff. as has been repeatedly pointed out on this list and other places, that is not going to happen unless there are certain benchmarks met. I dont see any effort towards that at the moment, so no - that wont be happening anytime soon. i'd be happy to work with any group of people who want to setup and run a documentation sub-sig that address's the issues of content navigation and content management from both sides : (1) the project and (2) the distro. Both of which are very different from each other. At least with a simple static front page that say what the project is all about and links to the important areas it's not something that needs updating and thus isn't a burden on those who can least afford the time plus then the Wiki editorial group could take on much of the rest hopefully freeing up the core devs to do what only they can do. The Wiki could host much of the content that's currently on www.centos.org. Actually no. the wiki is incapable of hosting more than 15% or so of the content in www.centos.org - but if you think that more can be moved over, I'd like to hear how you worked that out :D - KB -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS
Replying to myself, since this last line was perhaps not very clear... Karanbir Singh wrote: (3) Do nothing. Maintaining the web site is not important. I'm sure no one would agree (3) is a solution. But if we do not come up with viable solutions and start actively working on it, we would end up with (3). Isnt (2.9) where we are now ? I meant - isnt getting close to (3) what so many people seem to be proposing at this time. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
