Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread Max Hetrick
S.Tindall wrote:

 1) Add the wiki reference, which contains clarification of many points
 not addressed sufficiently in the documentation.
 
 http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/

Done.

 2) Also, a bug report contains corrective measures for the 64-bit
 installation.
 
 http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3175
 
 3) Web interface documentation link issues are addressed in another bug
 report:
 
 http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3190

 5) A section addressing backing up Macs would be very helpful (to me).
 The official documentation is very lacking in that area.

Do you have edit rights on the wiki? If so, feel free to add to or edit. 
Adding a section on Windows and Macs isn't very CentOS specific, so I 
doubt I'll be adding that, but if others want it, and have the ability 
to edit, feel free to add to my work.

As I stated in the guide, it's primary content is for installing 
configuring BackupPC on CentOS, and backing up across rsync to other 
Linux servers.

Regards,
Max
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread S.Tindall

On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 13:55 -0500, Max Hetrick wrote:
 S.Tindall wrote:
  5) A section addressing backing up Macs would be very helpful (to me).
  The official documentation is very lacking in that area.
 
 Do you have edit rights on the wiki? If so, feel free to add to or edit.

Nope. Maybe someday.

 Adding a section on Windows and Macs isn't very CentOS specific, so I 
 doubt I'll be adding that, but if others want it, and have the ability 
 to edit, feel free to add to my work.

My view of a HowTo's purpose is to make the described service useful to
a wide audience.  You don't interact with or administer window$ systems?

If we limited the HowTos to centos-specific issues, they would read like
a readme file.  Consider the centos wiki mail HowTos which contain
significant non-centos information that helps people get their mail
server up and running securely.

 As I stated in the guide, it's primary content is for installing 
 configuring BackupPC on CentOS, and backing up across rsync to other 
 Linux servers.

Yes, I back up content and configurations on my web and mail servers
along with my linux workstations using it. Adding window$ and Mac
clients strikes me as a natural and useful extension.

Steve

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Filipe Brandenburger
filbran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 By the way, I was planning on giving feedback on my experiences with
 the BackupPC RPM in CentOS for a long time, but I didn't know where to
 do it. I'm sorry I ended up hijacking this thread with this, since my
 issues were with the RPM and not with the guide (which is very good
 from a quick read). What would be the appropriate way to give feedback
 on packages that are in CentOS-Testing? Maybe this

Because this mailing list is for the Wiki documentation and not a
place to discuss applications (as you noted), perhaps you can start by
adding your findings in the bug report Steve initiated (and quoted in
his mail):

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3175

At least what is reported in this bug report has been reproduced by 3
people including myself, it seems.  We may need some input from Johnny
here because he did not find the same issue with the 64-bit version.
I would like to help in any way I can to get the CentOS version of
BackupPC working for everybody.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread Scott Dowdle
Max,

Wow.  Thanks for the BackupPC guide.  I've looked at BackupPC a few times over 
the last couple of years but haven't gotten around to actually trying to deploy 
it yet because something always got bumped up in front of as being a more 
important task... mainly because the modest rsync/rdiff-backup setup was 
working well enough.  Your guide will enable me to deploy in a more timely and 
productive manner when the time does come.

Regarding the arch issues... I feel compelled to mention OpenVZ containers as a 
very good solution to the problem.  Feel free to run x86_64 on the host node 
and then create x86_64 containers or i386 containers... whichever suites your 
needs... AND you can use the container to isolate the environment giving you a 
dedicated BackupPC server without having to dedicate a physical machine.  
Backing up, migrating, or cloning a BackupPC container would be very easy and 
you could even offer a pre-configured OpenVZ OS Template with BackupPC already 
installed and configured... well, as generically configured as possible.

TYL,
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Scott Dowdle
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread Max Hetrick
S.Tindall wrote:

 Nope. Maybe someday.

So you're asking me to apply something to a guide which you want, but 
yet to you don't want to offer time to add to the document yourself?

 My view of a HowTo's purpose is to make the described service useful to
 a wide audience.  You don't interact with or administer window$ systems?

Yes, I interact with Windows systems. All my desktop machines at work 
are Windows, however I don't back anything up from them. I use roaming 
profiles under Samba, which is under Linux. All user settings are then 
backed up normally from the Linux Samba server.

 If we limited the HowTos to centos-specific issues, they would read like
 a readme file.  Consider the centos wiki mail HowTos which contain
 significant non-centos information that helps people get their mail
 server up and running securely.

Again, my guide stated it was primarily for a CentOS BackupPC server 
backing up other Linux servers and machines. If you want it to be more 
broad, then add the content that you want. That's the entire point of a 
Wiki.

 Yes, I back up content and configurations on my web and mail servers
 along with my linux workstations using it. Adding window$ and Mac
 clients strikes me as a natural and useful extension.

Ok, so add that part. When I wrote that guide this week, I had no 
intention on needing that aspect. So, if you need it, then write the 
sections and add it.

Eventually I might need those aspects of BackupPC, but for now, I don't. 
Considering that you don't seem to be volunteering your time and writing 
to adding to the page, you seem to be awfully picky and demanding of 
what I spent time writing. If it's not what you want, improve on it then.

For the third time to everyone, if you have something you want to 
change, add, edit, or delete, go to it. I don't know how to be more 
clear that I don't care if you want to edit or add to any of my pages 
I've contributed to.

That being said, I'm personally done discussing this. You don't seem to 
be very appreciative to others volunteering any kind of time to the Wiki.

Regards,
Max
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Chroot_Vsftpd_with_non-system_users (Update)

2008-12-18 Thread Jenny
Oops! Sorry for that. My bad.

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Jenny jennyp...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Jenny jennyp...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Chroot_Vsftpd_with_non-system_users (Update)
To: Mail list for wiki articles centos-docs@centos.org
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:15 PM

Felicidades por el programita. No entiendo nada, pero espero por el tutorial :P
Qué tal? Tudo bon?
Besitos.





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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread S.Tindall

On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 15:18 -0500, Max Hetrick wrote:
 S.Tindall wrote:
 
 That being said, I'm personally done discussing this. You don't seem to 
 be very appreciative to others volunteering any kind of time to the Wiki.

Yes, I agree.  Our discussion is concluded.

Steve

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread Max Hetrick
Akemi Yagi wrote:

 Of course, missing l is important (in fairy).  :-D

We have fairies now too on the wiki? Cool! :-D

Max
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide

2008-12-18 Thread Max Hetrick
William L. Maltby wrote:

 I read the thread the same as you. Maybe Max was stressed and misread
 the intent of Steve.

You are correct William, I did misread what Steve was trying to say, and 
I didn't mean to sound harsh. I also explained in my reply back to Akemi 
why I felt Windows was off-topic: because the CentOS lists kind of 
create that feeling.

That's why I didn't really want to discuss Windows related things.

Regards,
Max
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[CentOS-docs] Korean Translation of release note for 5.2

2008-12-18 Thread bulmoji-centos
Hi,

I am a CentOS user in Korea.

I found today there is no Korean Translation of release note for 5.2 here.

So, I translated it. 

How can I post this at the right place?

My login name is YoungHoon Park.

Thanks.



   
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