Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki

[Ilyas Arinov]

IF there will be any updates or migration to improve language-dependent
contents, I will do my best to help you.

2015-10-05 12:04 GMT+06:00 Fabian Arrotin :

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> On 04/10/15 18:49, Ilyas Arinov wrote:
> > Sorry about second post about that, but we need language sensitive
> > menu links on wiki.centos.org . For
> > example, if users pick any language and wants to see HowTo section,
> > they need open "Learn" section and find there "HowTo" section, or
> > add language code into every link from menu bar. We should solve
> > this. Can someone help?
>
> Well, it seems you  just voluteered ;-)
>
> Actually the top bar (called 'navi_bar' in moin) is "static" and
> defined in the wikiconfig.py file. So I don't think that actually it
> can support multiple languages dynamically. If someone can have a
> deeper look at moin and how it can (or not) be done, I guess we're all
> for it.
>
> IIRC someone mentioned in the past another "workaround" : removing all
> items from navi_bar (like FrontPage, Help, etc ..) and have those
> replaced with languages that are are already present (and maintained)
> for the whole wiki, so leading users directly to something like
> wiki.centos.org/$lang and then forget about navi_bar, and only relying
> on menu presented on the $lang page itself. That "issue" itself has to
> be considered, but also the fact that the navi_bar can't be extended
> to infinity either (moin suggests no more than 6 items in that
> navi_bar, for readability purposes)
>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki

[Fabian Arrotin]

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On 04/10/15 18:49, Ilyas Arinov wrote:
> Sorry about second post about that, but we need language sensitive
> menu links on wiki.centos.org . For
> example, if users pick any language and wants to see HowTo section,
> they need open "Learn" section and find there "HowTo" section, or
> add language code into every link from menu bar. We should solve
> this. Can someone help?

Well, it seems you  just voluteered ;-)

Actually the top bar (called 'navi_bar' in moin) is "static" and
defined in the wikiconfig.py file. So I don't think that actually it
can support multiple languages dynamically. If someone can have a
deeper look at moin and how it can (or not) be done, I guess we're all
for it.

IIRC someone mentioned in the past another "workaround" : removing all
items from navi_bar (like FrontPage, Help, etc ..) and have those
replaced with languages that are are already present (and maintained)
for the whole wiki, so leading users directly to something like
wiki.centos.org/$lang and then forget about navi_bar, and only relying
on menu presented on the $lang page itself. That "issue" itself has to
be considered, but also the fact that the navi_bar can't be extended
to infinity either (moin suggests no more than 6 items in that
navi_bar, for readability purposes)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki

[Fabian Arrotin]

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On 04/10/15 22:10, Ilyas Arinov wrote:
> Hello and thanks. Another question about wiki. Will it be mobile 
> adaptive in future and what common stragegy about wiki site or
> where can i check this out? Thanks.
> 



I can't answer the question about "mobile adaptive" as I don't know if
moin supports that. Also, I don't think we really have a "common
strategy" about wiki nor a link we can give you about it.

We never really discussed about it, but I guess that it would be a
good time to do so. Actually we're still running
moin-1.5.8-3.el6.noarch (including the ACL hierarchy patch), but I
built (in the past) some intermediate builds if we wanted to test an
update to higher (and current) version. One can't simply update from
1.5.x to latest, so it would have to be through multiple (incremental)
updates. Those packages are still located on
http://people.centos.org/arrfab/CentOS6/moin/

As we never really discussed the need to for the update, nor if we
wanted to stick with moin (or migrate to something else), I've never
tried the update on a test instance (something that can be done if
necessary).

With the FAS solution coming soon (I really hope so, as everything is
now ready for a "deploy to prod" soon [TM]), it would make sense to
see if moin can use it as authentication source too.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki

[Ilyas Arinov]

Hello and thanks. Another question about wiki. Will it be mobile adaptive
in future and what common stragegy about wiki site or where can i check
this out? Thanks.

2015-10-04 23:53 GMT+06:00 Alan Bartlett :

> On 4 October 2015 at 17:49, Ilyas Arinov  wrote:
> > Sorry about second post about that, but we need language sensitive menu
> > links on wiki.centos.org. For example, if users pick any language and
> wants
> > to see HowTo section, they need open "Learn" section and find there
> "HowTo"
> > section, or add language code into every link from menu bar. We should
> solve
> > this. Can someone help?
>
> Just acknowledging your message. Yes, I recall that Akemi asked for
> help and none has been forthcoming.
>
> Jim -- In the absence of Ralph are you able to look at what is
> required at the lower level, please?
>
> Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki

[Alan Bartlett]

On 4 October 2015 at 17:49, Ilyas Arinov  wrote:
> Sorry about second post about that, but we need language sensitive menu
> links on wiki.centos.org. For example, if users pick any language and wants
> to see HowTo section, they need open "Learn" section and find there "HowTo"
> section, or add language code into every link from menu bar. We should solve
> this. Can someone help?

Just acknowledging your message. Yes, I recall that Akemi asked for
help and none has been forthcoming.

Jim -- In the absence of Ralph are you able to look at what is
required at the lower level, please?

Alan.
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[CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki

[Ilyas Arinov]

Sorry about second post about that, but we need language sensitive menu
links on wiki.centos.org. For example, if users pick any language and wants
to see HowTo section, they need open "Learn" section and find there "HowTo"
section, or add language code into every link from menu bar. We should
solve this. Can someone help?
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