Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508compliancestatement

[Jason Pyeron]

> -Original Message-
> From: Karanbir Singh
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 17:50
> 
> let me chase that up,
> 
> I dont really understand what a VPAT might be, looks to be US 
> centric - but it also looks like it 
> aims to make assertions on and from the CentOS project 

No. Glad I get to clarifiy. It is a set of answers to questions, from a SME 
point of view, think FAQ.

Who is better to answer about product X? The vendor (in this case community) or 
a bureaucrat? The VPAT is a standard set of
accessibility questions. This is why a Voluntary Product Accessibility Template 
is requested. It allows consumers to compare apples
to apples.

Here are some samples (CentOS 6):

Section 1194.21 Software Applications and Operating Systems (text mode)
(a) When software is designed to run on a system that has a keyboard, product 
functions shall be executable from a keyboard where
the function itself or the result of performing a function can be discerned 
textually.

Supported: All command line mode tasks are executed from a keyboard.

Section 1194.21 Software Applications and Operating Systems (gui)
(c) A well-defined on-screen indication of the current focus shall be provided 
that moves among interactive interface elements as
the input focus changes. The focus shall be programmatically exposed so that 
Assistive Technology can track focus and focus changes.

Supported: The GTK2 2.x GUI toolkit exposes focus programmatically via the ATK 
(Accessibility Tool Kit).
Section 1194.31 Functional Performance Criteria
(a) At least one mode of operation and information retrieval that does not 
require user vision shall be provided, or support for
Assistive Technology used by people who are blind or visually impaired shall be 
provided.

Supported: Support for Assistive Technology is provided via the Controlling 
Terminal interface.

Section 1194.41 Information, Documentation and Support
(a) Product support documentation provided to end-users shall be made available 
in alternate formats upon request, at no additional
charge

Supported: Centos documentation is available in electronic form and can be 
downloaded from here:
http://wiki.centos.org/Documentation and upstream documentation is availble at 
http://www.redhat.com/docs/. Most of our manuals are
available in HTML and PDF forms.


> side. best to work it via the board first.
> 
> Regards
> 
> On 22/09/16 22:27, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > I posted on the dev list last October, no feedback.
> > 
> > How (did not seem to be a high level issue for board 
> concern, it is down at the FAQ level) do I run it by the 
> Board? In other words,
> > where do I discuss this?
> > 
> > I will send the 2 vpats from my .gov account in a moment.
> > 
> > -Jason
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Karanbir Singh
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 17:07
> >>
> >> Did you work this via the CentOS Board to make sure its ok 
> to post ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> On 22/09/16 19:44, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> >>> I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
> >>>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org
>  [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
>  ] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
>  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
>  To: centos-docs@centos.org
>  Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508
>  compliancestatement
> 
>  Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a
>  CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
> 
>  Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
> 
>  -Jason
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us 
>  ]
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
> > To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
> > Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
> >
> > I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a
> > federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
> >
> > One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
> >
> > Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
> >
> > P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs
> > in https://git.centos.org/project/websites 
>   .
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> > --
> > 
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508compliancestatement

[Karanbir Singh]

let me chase that up,

I dont really understand what a VPAT might be, looks to be US centric -
but it also looks like it aims to make assertions on and from the CentOS
project side. best to work it via the board first.

Regards

On 22/09/16 22:27, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> I posted on the dev list last October, no feedback.
> 
> How (did not seem to be a high level issue for board concern, it is down at 
> the FAQ level) do I run it by the Board? In other words,
> where do I discuss this?
> 
> I will send the 2 vpats from my .gov account in a moment.
> 
> -Jason
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Karanbir Singh
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 17:07
>>
>> Did you work this via the CentOS Board to make sure its ok to post ?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 22/09/16 19:44, Jason Pyeron wrote:
>>> I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org
 [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
  ] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
 To: centos-docs@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508
 compliancestatement

 Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a
 CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?

 Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources

 -Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us  ]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
> To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
> Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
>
> I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a
> federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
>
> One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
>
> Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
>
> P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs
> in https://git.centos.org/project/websites 
>   .
>
> -Jason
>
> --
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> -   -
> - Jason Pyeron  PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us 
>   -
> - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
> - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218   -
> -   -
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>

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>>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508compliancestatement

[Jason Pyeron]

> -Original Message-
> From: Brandon James
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 17:10
> 
> Jason,
> 
> Please let me know if you need any additional help with this 
> request. I agree that a Centos 7 VPAT should be publicized. 

Not that I can think of, Karanbir thinks this might have to go before the Board.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508compliancestatement

[Jason Pyeron]

I posted on the dev list last October, no feedback.

How (did not seem to be a high level issue for board concern, it is down at the 
FAQ level) do I run it by the Board? In other words,
where do I discuss this?

I will send the 2 vpats from my .gov account in a moment.

-Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Karanbir Singh
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 17:07
>
> Did you work this via the CentOS Board to make sure its ok to post ?
>
> Regards
>
> On 22/09/16 19:44, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org
> >> [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
> >>  ] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
> >> To: centos-docs@centos.org
> >> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508
> >> compliancestatement
> >>
> >> Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a
> >> CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
> >>
> >> Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
> >>
> >> -Jason
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us  ]
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
> >>> To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
> >>> Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
> >>>
> >>> I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a
> >>> federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
> >>>
> >>> One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
> >>>
> >>> Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
> >>>
> >>> P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs
> >>> in https://git.centos.org/project/websites 
> >>>   .
> >>>
> >>> -Jason
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >>> -   -
> >>> - Jason Pyeron  PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us 
> >>>   -
> >>> - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
> >>> - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218   -
> >>> -   -
> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliancestatement

[Brandon James]

Jason,

Please let me know if you need any additional help with this request. I
agree that a Centos 7 VPAT should be publicized.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Jason Pyeron  wrote:

> I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org
> > [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
> > To: centos-docs@centos.org
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508
> > compliancestatement
> >
> > Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a
> > CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
> >
> > Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
> > > To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
> > > Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
> > >
> > > I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a
> > > federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
> > >
> > > One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
> > >
> > > Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
> > >
> > > P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs
> > > in https://git.centos.org/project/websites .
> > >
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > > --
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > > -   -
> > > - Jason Pyeron  PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us -
> > > - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
> > > - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218   -
> > > -   -
> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > >
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliancestatement

[Karanbir Singh]

Did you work this via the CentOS Board to make sure its ok to post ?

Regards

On 22/09/16 19:44, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
>> [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
>> To: centos-docs@centos.org
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 
>> compliancestatement
>>
>> Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a 
>> CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
>>
>> Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us] 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
>>> To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
>>> Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
>>>
>>> I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a 
>>> federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
>>>
>>> One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
>>>
>>> Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
>>>
>>> P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs 
>>> in https://git.centos.org/project/websites .
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>> --
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>> -   -
>>> - Jason Pyeron  PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us -
>>> - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
>>> - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218   -
>>> -   -
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliancestatement

[Jason Pyeron]

I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
> [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
> To: centos-docs@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 
> compliancestatement
> 
> Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a 
> CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
> 
> Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
> 
> -Jason
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us] 
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
> > To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
> > Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
> > 
> > I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a 
> > federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
> > 
> > One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
> > 
> > Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
> > 
> > P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs 
> > in https://git.centos.org/project/websites .
> > 
> > -Jason
> > 
> > --
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > -   -
> > - Jason Pyeron  PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us -
> > - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
> > - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218   -
> > -   -
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement

[Jason Pyeron]

Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 
VPAT can be posted?

Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources

-Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us] 
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
> To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
> Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
> 
> I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a 
> federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
> 
> One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
> 
> Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
> 
> P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs 
> in https://git.centos.org/project/websites .
> 
> -Jason
> 
> --
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> -   -
> - Jason Pyeron  PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us -
> - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
> - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218   -
> -   -
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Centos doesn't load or work

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 22/09/16 15:46, Robert Cunliffe wrote:
>
> I've tried Zorrin, Ubuntu and Centos.
>
> Zorrin and Ubuntu work fine, but Centos doesn't load, or run.
>
> I asked for advice, didn't get any and seem to have been added to all
> your Centos mailing lists.
> *Please remove me from your mailing lists.*
>
> Sincerely,
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[CentOS-docs] Centos doesn't load or work

[Robert Cunliffe]

I've tried Zorrin, Ubuntu and Centos.

Zorrin and Ubuntu work fine, but Centos doesn't load, or run.

I asked for advice, didn't get any and seem to have been added to all your 
Centos mailing lists.
Please remove me from your mailing lists.

Sincerely,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Proposed Contribution for the "How To's" Section

[Alan Bartlett]

On 21 September 2016 at 18:07, Rob Morrison
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My username is RobMorrison
>
> The proposed subject of my Wiki contribution is "Backing up with Bacula"
>
> Some background information in case you are not aware of Bacula:
>
> According to Source Forge statistics (rank and downloads), Bacula is by far
> the most popular Open Source backup program. It eables you (or the system
> administrator) to manage backup, recovery, and verification of computer data
> across a network of computers of different kinds. Bacula is relatively easy
> to use and very efficient, while offering many advanced storage management
> features that make it easy to find and recover lost or damaged files. In
> technical terms, it is an Open Source, network based backup program.
>
> So far there have been over 3Million downloads of Bacula, and it is used by
> many leading data centers and research establishments around the world, such
> as NASA.
>
> The proposed location of my Wiki contribution is
> https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BaculaBackups
>
> Many thanks and best regards,
>
> Rob
>
> http://blog.bacula.org/

Hi Rob,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your request.

I have just initialised a wiki HomePage and the HowTos/BaculaBackups
page for you.

If you have any problems, please contact either Akemi or myself via this list.

Alan.
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