Re: [CentOS-docs] Write/Edit permissions to create own wiki page and make contribution.

[Phil Wyett]

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On Sun, 2018-05-13 at 22:13 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Alan Bartlett  wrote:
> > On 13 May 2018 at 14:56, Phil Wyett  wrote:
> > > I have ideas of contribution areas, but they will be brought up for
> > > discussion
> > > at a later time. More urgent issues like Todo on the wiki, may a good
> > > place to
> > > begin discussion and update as it has not been updated since 2009.
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.centos.org/ToDo
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Phil
> > > 
> > 
> > I have initialised a CentOS wiki home page for you --
> > 
> > https://wiki.centos.org/PhilWyett
> > 
> > With regards to the other points, Akemi will be in contact in due course.
> > 
> > Alan.
> 
> Now that your wiki homepage has been set up, you should be able to
> create new pages under your page. You can use that to show your
> modifications. For example, create an updated "ToDo" page with your
> proposed changes so we can start discussion.
> 
> Akemi
> 

Hi,

I will start proposed edits later as sub pages and we can go from there.

Regards

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Guidelines/Policy for removal of EOL content from wiki

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On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 00:36 +0100, Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> On 13/05/18 18:31, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > With now release 5 and below all EOL for over 12 months[1]. What
> > guidelines/policy is in place for removal of old and out of date
> > content from
> > the wiki?
> > 
> > [1] 5 is in extended support upstream and documentation etc. remain
> > available
> > until November 30, 2020. Should 5 related content remain until that date?
> 
> I think that the CentOS 5 info could still be valid for newer releases
> and should not be removed via a "purge it all" approach. It would be
> better to either amend it to say it's generic, read and recommend
> deletion of specific pages or amend it to apply to newer versions too.
> 
> I don't think you can just delete a page and say it's out of date
> because it's old. Some things are still the same as they always were.
> 
> Trevor
> 
> 

Hi,

Sorry, if it sounded like an attempt at a scorched earth policy, I did not
intend to mean that. Taking and updating generic pages would be great and
marking them as such. After consensus, pages for 5 or older that no longer meet
the needs of the project and users, maybe marked as 'old EOL release' until a
time they are decided on for eventual deletion.

Regards

Phil

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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki - QA related data/activities

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On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 02:36 +0300, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
> On 05/14/2018 02:19 AM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > * QaWiki section linked below is very out of date. Is it and the team 
> > > active?
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki
> > 
> > You are right on this one. Sooner or later "someone" should fix this 
> > page, too :) 
> 
>  which I just did, using a sledge hammer. Thanks for reminding us 
> about the old cruft.
> Oh, and I forgot to answer: yes the QA / dev team IS active. Those new 
> releases - especially for new archs - do not test themselves by magic :)
> 
> Manuel
> 

Hi,

Thanks. I will have a read through later on today.

Regards

Phil

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Write/Edit permissions to create own wiki page and make contribution.

[Akemi Yagi]

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Alan Bartlett  wrote:
> On 13 May 2018 at 14:56, Phil Wyett  wrote:

>> I have ideas of contribution areas, but they will be brought up for 
>> discussion
>> at a later time. More urgent issues like Todo on the wiki, may a good place 
>> to
>> begin discussion and update as it has not been updated since 2009.
>>
>> https://wiki.centos.org/ToDo
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Phil
>>
> I have initialised a CentOS wiki home page for you --
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/PhilWyett
>
> With regards to the other points, Akemi will be in contact in due course.
>
> Alan.

Now that your wiki homepage has been set up, you should be able to
create new pages under your page. You can use that to show your
modifications. For example, create an updated "ToDo" page with your
proposed changes so we can start discussion.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki editing - 'HelpOnEditing' page - 404

[Akemi Yagi]

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Phil Wyett  wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> When a user page is created and you use the link 'Edit (text)'. Below are two
> links to additional resources to help you edit pages. There is one:
>
> HelpOnEditing - https://wiki.centos.org/centoswiki/HelpOnEditing
>
> that has no page - 404. Should this link on the new user page template be
> pointing to:
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/HelpOnEditing
>
> Regards
>
> Phil

Thank you for catching this. I have set up a redirect to the actual page.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Guidelines/Policy for removal of EOL content from wiki

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 13/05/18 18:31, Phil Wyett wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> With now release 5 and below all EOL for over 12 months[1]. What
> guidelines/policy is in place for removal of old and out of date
> content from
> the wiki?
>
> [1] 5 is in extended support upstream and documentation etc. remain
> available
> until November 30, 2020. Should 5 related content remain until that date?

I think that the CentOS 5 info could still be valid for newer releases
and should not be removed via a "purge it all" approach. It would be
better to either amend it to say it's generic, read and recommend
deletion of specific pages or amend it to apply to newer versions too.

I don't think you can just delete a page and say it's out of date
because it's old. Some things are still the same as they always were.

Trevor

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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki - QA related data/activities

[Manuel Wolfshant]

On 05/14/2018 02:19 AM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:




* QaWiki section linked below is very out of date. Is it and the team 
active?


https://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki
You are right on this one. Sooner or later "someone" should fix this 
page, too :) 


 which I just did, using a sledge hammer. Thanks for reminding us 
about the old cruft.
Oh, and I forgot to answer: yes the QA / dev team IS active. Those new 
releases - especially for new archs - do not test themselves by magic :)


Manuel
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[CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki - QA related data/activities

[Manuel Wolfshant]

Hi all,


Hello Phil




Trying to lookup QA related team, data and general info.

Issues:

* Not allowed to view below page, even if logged in.

https://wiki.centos.org/QaTeam
The page contains pieces of information which is preferable to not be 
available for reading to the general public,




* Page below mentions QA mailing list.

https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General/RebuildReleaseProcess

No QA list though on page below.

https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/
That wiki page is heavily outdated. Things have changed a lot in the 
last couple of years and the wiki pages were not updated accordingly. In 
particular the QA mailing list is no longer used.






* QaWiki section linked below is very out of date. Is it and the team active?

https://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki
You are right on this one. Sooner or later "someone" should fix this 
page, too :)



Regards,

        Manuel

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Write/Edit permissions to create own wiki page and make contribution.

[Alan Bartlett]

On 13 May 2018 at 14:56, Phil Wyett  wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> Wiki user name: PhilWyett
>
> Wiki contribution:
>
> * Create own page for personal details and activities ongoing.
> * Correction of incorrect information.
> * Removal of out of date information.
> * After discussion and approval. Addition of new content across various areas
> related to CentOS.
>
> Wiki contribution locations:
>
> * Unknown at present. To be discussed and then performed.
>
> Additional:
>
> I have ideas of contribution areas, but they will be brought up for discussion
> at a later time. More urgent issues like Todo on the wiki, may a good place to
> begin discussion and update as it has not been updated since 2009.
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/ToDo
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
I have initialised a CentOS wiki home page for you --

https://wiki.centos.org/PhilWyett

With regards to the other points, Akemi will be in contact in due course.

Alan.
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[CentOS-docs] Guidelines/Policy for removal of EOL content from wiki

[Phil Wyett]

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Hi all,

With now release 5 and below all EOL for over 12 months[1]. What
guidelines/policy is in place for removal of old and out of date content from
the wiki?

[1] 5 is in extended support upstream and documentation etc. remain available
until November 30, 2020. Should 5 related content remain until that date?

Regards

Phil

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[CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki - QA related data/activities

[Phil Wyett]

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Hi all,

Trying to lookup QA related team, data and general info.

Issues:

* Not allowed to view below page, even if logged in.

https://wiki.centos.org/QaTeam

* Page below mentions QA mailing list.

https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General/RebuildReleaseProcess

No QA list though on page below.

https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/

* QaWiki section linked below is very out of date. Is it and the team active?

https://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki

Can anyone offer detail into QA related activities?

Regards

Phil

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[CentOS-docs] Write/Edit permissions to create own wiki page and make contribution.

[Phil Wyett]

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Hi all,

Wiki user name: PhilWyett

Wiki contribution:

* Create own page for personal details and activities ongoing.
* Correction of incorrect information.
* Removal of out of date information.
* After discussion and approval. Addition of new content across various areas
related to CentOS.

Wiki contribution locations:

* Unknown at present. To be discussed and then performed.

Additional:

I have ideas of contribution areas, but they will be brought up for discussion
at a later time. More urgent issues like Todo on the wiki, may a good place to
begin discussion and update as it has not been updated since 2009.

https://wiki.centos.org/ToDo

Regards

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