Re: [CentOS-docs] Header image of blog.centos.org

2018-09-18 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:18 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> On 9/18/18 8:27 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> > On 18/09/18 14:19, Rich Bowen wrote:
> >> Hmm. I matched the existing banner size identically as I assumed it was
> >> correct. There are in fact 4 banners now on random rotate.
> >>
> > I'm not a designer, but what about using something that have some kind
> > of "centos look-n-feel" at the design level ?
> >
> > What about the common banner we use almost everywhere, including wiki  ?
> >
> > Just my two cents, but (also just my opinion) some of the new ones
> > aren't really looking good (including for the centos logo on top not
> > being displayed correctly as with some kind of "white on white")
>
> Ok, I've reverted back to the original single banner image, and will go
> ask the folks on the Artwork SIG for their input.
>
> I was looking for creative ways to use some of the photos from various
> events - some of the new ones were from CERN, and others from DevConf.US.

I'm afraid that, if a photo contains identifiable faces, one would
need a permission to post from each person.

I like Fabian's idea of using the same image as the one for the wiki.
That image also has the "right height".

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS-devel] Authorization to use CentOS logo in GNOME Boxes

2018-09-18 Thread Karsten Wade
On 09/18/2018 11:03 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided here[0].
> However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and
> we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]
> 
> Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a
> violation of the trademark.
> 
> [0]: 
> https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-bf605cecf99c819d5a39e726ffb928999e1a13e6
> [1]: 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:CentOS#/media/File:CentOS_color_logo.svg

Hi Fabiano,

Thanks for clarifying and that connects with what Rich said about how
we've used just the graphic logo mark in practice but do not have a
guideline that allows that on the ArtWork wiki.

This item is actually on my short list of things to clarify for the
trademark guidelines and updates on the ArtWork page.

For the moment, we can pursue a specific permission for GNOME Boxes.
Can you provide a mock-up of how it would appear on the page?

I'm looking at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes but am not sure how it
would appear.  Am I correct that the logo would appear when running the
GNOME Boxes application inside of a GNOME session?  If yes, is there
also a corresponding use on the website?  A mock-up from there would be
useful as well.

Knowing that this has been missed for a few months, I'll work through
the discussions on our side to expedite a decision for you.

Regards,

- Karsten
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Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS-devel] Authorization to use CentOS logo in GNOME Boxes

2018-09-18 Thread Fabiano Fidêncio
Karsten,

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Karsten Wade  wrote:
> Thanks Rich for drawing this forward, I had missed it.  (I generally
> handle all the trademark usage queries.)
>
> The key reference is this one, the trademark guidelines:
>
> https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/
>
> That document should give the GNOME project all of the authorization and
> guidelines on how to use and not use the CentOS marks.
>
> Fabiano -- if you have any further questions, you may also direct them
> to centos...@centos.org .
>
> Rich -- it looks as if we need to update or clarify on the wiki around
> the appearance of the (R) in the marks.  There is a link in a section
> there called "Usage Restrictions"[1] but it isn't terribly visible.  I
> just added a new short paragraph at the top of the page referring to the
> guidelines.

My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided here[0].
However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and
we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]

Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a
violation of the trademark.

[0]: 
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-bf605cecf99c819d5a39e726ffb928999e1a13e6
[1]: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:CentOS#/media/File:CentOS_color_logo.svg

>
> Best regards,
>
> - Karsten
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-f379d7da0b5da9a7161148c5c9a093a00085975b
>
>
>
>
> On 09/18/2018 07:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion
>> from someone on the board.
>>
>> In particular, the guidelines at
>> https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're
>> not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all
>> the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who can
>> we go to for further clarification?
>>
>> --Rich
>>
>> On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
>>> People,
>>>
>>> Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
>>>
>>> I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to
>>> use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few
>>> other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
>>>
>>> Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use
>>> CentOS logo as well?
>>>
>>> [0]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
>>> [1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes/raw/master/README.logos
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS-devel] Authorization to use CentOS logo in GNOME Boxes

2018-09-18 Thread Karsten Wade
Thanks Rich for drawing this forward, I had missed it.  (I generally
handle all the trademark usage queries.)

The key reference is this one, the trademark guidelines:

https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/

That document should give the GNOME project all of the authorization and
guidelines on how to use and not use the CentOS marks.

Fabiano -- if you have any further questions, you may also direct them
to centos...@centos.org .

Rich -- it looks as if we need to update or clarify on the wiki around
the appearance of the (R) in the marks.  There is a link in a section
there called "Usage Restrictions"[1] but it isn't terribly visible.  I
just added a new short paragraph at the top of the page referring to the
guidelines.

Best regards,

- Karsten

[1]
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-f379d7da0b5da9a7161148c5c9a093a00085975b




On 09/18/2018 07:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion
> from someone on the board.
> 
> In particular, the guidelines at
> https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're
> not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all
> the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who can
> we go to for further clarification?
> 
> --Rich
> 
> On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
>> People,
>>
>> Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
>>
>> I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to
>> use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few
>> other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
>>
>> Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use
>> CentOS logo as well?
>>
>> [0]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
>> [1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes/raw/master/README.logos
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
> 

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Header image of blog.centos.org

2018-09-18 Thread Rich Bowen




On 9/18/18 8:27 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:

On 18/09/18 14:19, Rich Bowen wrote:

Hmm. I matched the existing banner size identically as I assumed it was
correct. There are in fact 4 banners now on random rotate.


I'm not a designer, but what about using something that have some kind
of "centos look-n-feel" at the design level ?

What about the common banner we use almost everywhere, including wiki  ?

Just my two cents, but (also just my opinion) some of the new ones
aren't really looking good (including for the centos logo on top not
being displayed correctly as with some kind of "white on white")


Ok, I've reverted back to the original single banner image, and will go 
ask the folks on the Artwork SIG for their input.


I was looking for creative ways to use some of the photos from various 
events - some of the new ones were from CERN, and others from DevConf.US.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS-devel] Authorization to use CentOS logo in GNOME Boxes

2018-09-18 Thread Rich Bowen
Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion 
from someone on the board.


In particular, the guidelines at 
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're 
not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all 
the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who can 
we go to for further clarification?


--Rich

On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:

People,

Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).

I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to
use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few
other distro's logos as you can check here[1].

Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use
CentOS logo as well?

[0]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
[1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes/raw/master/README.logos

Best Regards,



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Re: [CentOS-docs] Header image of blog.centos.org

2018-09-18 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On 18/09/18 14:19, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Hmm. I matched the existing banner size identically as I assumed it was
> correct. There are in fact 4 banners now on random rotate.
> 
I'm not a designer, but what about using something that have some kind
of "centos look-n-feel" at the design level ?

What about the common banner we use almost everywhere, including wiki  ?

Just my two cents, but (also just my opinion) some of the new ones
aren't really looking good (including for the centos logo on top not
being displayed correctly as with some kind of "white on white")

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Header image of blog.centos.org

2018-09-18 Thread Rich Bowen
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 17:53 Akemi Yagi  wrote:

>
>
> The other "issue" was that the height of the image was too big. On a
> small device, it occupies 1/3 or even half of the screen estate. But
> then, because no one got to modify the settings, this request has not
> been fulfilled.
>

I'm not seeing this on any of the mobile platforms I am testing with - it
resizes gracefully. Have you retested with the new images?
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Header image of blog.centos.org

2018-09-18 Thread Rich Bowen
Hmm. I matched the existing banner size identically as I assumed it was
correct. There are in fact 4 banners now on random rotate.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 17:53 Akemi Yagi  wrote:

> I noticed that the header backgroung image of https://blog.centos.org
> was updated. This brought back some memories around couple of
> suggestions (or "complaints") when the page was first set up. Fabian
> thinks it's worth discussing this on the -docs mailing list. :)
>
> One thing was that the header image of the page remained the default
> one provided by WordPress. But no one was able to change it to
> something nice, or CentOS-specific image. Either that or no admin
> cared about it. ;-)
>
> The other "issue" was that the height of the image was too big. On a
> small device, it occupies 1/3 or even half of the screen estate. But
> then, because no one got to modify the settings, this request has not
> been fulfilled.
>
> Since the first one has now been taken care of, it's a good time to
> consider the second one. The current image is 980x240. Perhaps,
> changing the height to 120 will make it acceptable ? By the way the
> header image of the CentOS wiki page ( https://wiki.centos.org/ ) has
> a height of 130.
>
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