[CentOS-docs] Archiving wiki.centos.org (next week)
As discussed multiple times either on centos-devel list (for example https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2023-February/142773.html), or during last docs hackaton in Brussels (day after Fosdem), it was decided to just archive the wiki as static html files (exported from moin) and just have these available through git repository The ticket to track this is https://pagure.io/centos-infra/issue/1245 As we need to also migrate/move that VM elsewhere, and itself disappearing when CentOS Linux 7 will be EOL, and because the PoC was enough, I intend to do the following next monday (September 11th): - snapshot wiki.centos.org content (frozen) - export to html static page - import that back in dedicated git repository (https://gitlab.com/CentOS/docs/wiki_archives- - have a new vhost that would just pull from that git repository (if anything was modified/updated) and still content served from https://wiki.centos.org (so that existing links would still work) From that point, it's up to CentOS Docs SIG to decide how/where to put content, but most of the SIGs already moved content elsewhere (usually under https://sigs.centos.org) but in the meantime, it will still be possible to just use git workflow on html files to modify/update/remove content as needed (interim solution) Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org] OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] [Infra] - Planned outage/migration : wiki.centos.org
Due to a software upgrade and hardware migration, we'll have to move the existing CentOS Wiki instance (aka https://wiki.centos.org) to a new node. Migration is scheduled for """"Monday December 9th, 9:00 am UTC time"""". You can convert to local time with $(date -d '2019-12-9 9:00 UTC') The expected "downtime" is estimated to ~60 minutes , time needed to : - freeze wiki instance data - convert to newer moin data format - import converted data to new host and validate - switch DNS record and propagation Worth knowing that during the migration process, the wiki instance will not be available. Thanks for your comprehending and patience. on behalf of the Infra team, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] wiki.centos.org migration plan
Hi all, Almost all of you are probably aware, but I worked last week on a new ansible role to deploy/upgrade moin (what is used for wiki.centos.org) It's quite a "jump" from moin 1.5.3 to 1.9.10 (running on centos 7) The plan is to migrate the production instance maybe next week, and so let people on this list have a look at the moin parsers/syntax that will eventually have to be modified. The staging instance (migrated from wiki.centos.org snapshot last week) is available for you on https://wiki.stg.centos.org Worth knowing that the staging instance is *not* configured to send emails at this stage (so don't try the reset password feature as that will not work), as we wanted to avoid that moin instance sending mail on page edit operations to real subscribed people. PS : the old centos theme is gone, per discussion with Alain , who is working on some cosmetic changes on the theme you can see on the staging instance. Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Artwork localization
On 26/05/2019 11:26, Timothy Lee wrote: > Hi Alain, > > The Chinese artwork looks good to me. I have no corrections to make. > If you do add/remove strings from the PO files, can you give me an > e-mail, so that I can keep the translation in sync? Thanks! > > Regards, > Timothy > Hi Timothy (and others), As it's all in git.centos.org, my suggestion would be to do like one would do on github : - login to https://git.centos.org (through your ACO credentials - if you haven't one yet, simply visit https://accounts.centos.org) - fork the repo - commit your changes to a branch to your fork - open a PR (Pull Request) against master artwork repository Then someone with direct right from sig-artwork can merge your request in the main artwork git repo -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] proposal for centos.org/download
On 18/03/2019 11:40, Florian Winter wrote: > Hi all, > > I try to migrate https://wiki.centos.org/Download to > https://centos.org/download/. > What are you thinking about this idea ? > What i have done so far: https://www.leetbit.com/dev/web/centos/testing/ > > I also have one question: Why are the two website repos (bugs.centos.org > & centos.org) on git.centos.org and not on github ? > > best regards, > florian Hi Florian, While we initially had all the links for download on main website, we decided to just redirect to the wiki page as it was easier for QA people at release time to switch/update that page, than it was to get it done on the main website. Now, nothing would prevent us from automating that for centos.org itself, and that also answers your question about why not on github : also a legacy decision, and we'll migrate soon git.centos.org to a new platform, so people with accounts on our side would then be able to use the usual PR git worflow to contribute. Does that answer your question ? PS : not following the -docs list closely, so I only saw your mail .. -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Header image of blog.centos.org
On 18/09/18 14:19, Rich Bowen wrote: > Hmm. I matched the existing banner size identically as I assumed it was > correct. There are in fact 4 banners now on random rotate. > I'm not a designer, but what about using something that have some kind of "centos look-n-feel" at the design level ? What about the common banner we use almost everywhere, including wiki ? Just my two cents, but (also just my opinion) some of the new ones aren't really looking good (including for the centos logo on top not being displayed correctly as with some kind of "white on white") -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Fwd: Acknowledging your stand request (CentOS)
Hi guys, Fosdem 2019 is slowly approaching and so they opened the registration form for participants and also stands requests. So it's now done for CentOS and let's see how that goes Forwarded Message Subject: Acknowledging your stand request (CentOS) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 09:33:10 +0200 (CEST) From: sta...@fosdem.org To: arr...@centos.org CC: sta...@fosdem.org Stand Request for FOSDEM 2019 We acknowledge that we have received your request for the following stand. After we review all stands requests, we will inform you accordingly via email. Project: CentOS Coordinator: Fabian Arrotin Coordinator email: arr...@centos.org Secondary contact: Karanbir Singh Secondary email: kbsi...@centos.org Description: The CentOS Project is a community-driven free software effort focused around the goal of providing a rich base platform for open source communities to build upon. The CentOS Project is well know for the CentOS Linux distribution, serving as that base platform. Coordinator's affinity to the project: Governing/Core Team member Why does it fit FOSDEM The CentOS Project fits perfectly with the FOSDEM spirit , as it enables communities to speak to each other and start new collaboration[s], which is actually one of the goals on our side. And also because we're there at Fosdem since 2007 and a lot of people are expecting to see us there again Project website URL: https://www.centos.org Project logo URL: Project contact email address: Source code location: https://git.centos.org Relevant URLs: Number of tables: One Special requirements: Kind Regards, FOSDEM 2019 stands team signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki content management via automation
On 21/02/18 22:58, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Hi > > the CentOS Cloud images and other things are now built from end to end > automated pipelines, but the wiki content corresponding to them isnt. Is > there something that can be used to do this automation ? > > I have done some stuff many many years ago, via directly mangling > content on the wiki objects, but that might not be the best way forward. > > thoughts ? > > > Regards > That's a good question, as we'll also have to migration for moinmoin if we can't find a support path to migrate to supported version anyway. So first question (already asked on the list) : is there a way to get in touch with moin people willing to help/assist us ? (as their upgrade tool wasn't working to test migration from 1.6 to 1.7) And then too : is there a way to consume a kind of API for moin that would then meet the "content management via automation" requirement. Or do we have to also investigate directly another solution (like mediawiki) and so migration ? -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Update the "repository URL" links for centos.org website
On 22/01/18 10:20, Fabian Arrotin wrote: > On 18/01/18 16:10, Charlie Drage wrote: >> I had a bit of trouble git cloning the website since the repository URL >> portion isn't filled in, >> see: https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/centos.org.git >> >> Only until I went >> onto https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/bugs.centos.org.git was >> I able to infer on how to actually git clone it. >> >> Could someone possibly update the URL for >> https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/centos.org.git ? >> -- >> Charlie Drage >> PGP - 4096R/C037D617 >> http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get=0xDA227403C037D617 >> > > Hi Charlie, > > we discussed this on irc, but I forgot you also sent a mail to the list, > so let's discuss that here too :-) > > It seems that while public, the auth in place at git.centos.org for > website doesn't permit cloning (with git) while one can still download > it as .tag.gz, .zip, etc .. > > Let me see why it was decided to have it public but not "clonable" with > the involved folks and I'll keep the list informed > Permissions where adapted on the git repo and now repository url is shown through web ui on git.centos.org for people willing to clone it : https://git.centos.org/r/websites/centos.org.git -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Update the "repository URL" links for centos.org website
On 18/01/18 16:10, Charlie Drage wrote: > I had a bit of trouble git cloning the website since the repository URL > portion isn't filled in, > see: https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/centos.org.git > > Only until I went > onto https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/bugs.centos.org.git was > I able to infer on how to actually git clone it. > > Could someone possibly update the URL for > https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/centos.org.git ? > -- > Charlie Drage > PGP - 4096R/C037D617 > http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get=0xDA227403C037D617 > Hi Charlie, we discussed this on irc, but I forgot you also sent a mail to the list, so let's discuss that here too :-) It seems that while public, the auth in place at git.centos.org for website doesn't permit cloning (with git) while one can still download it as .tag.gz, .zip, etc .. Let me see why it was decided to have it public but not "clonable" with the involved folks and I'll keep the list informed -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki.centos.org .. what's next ?
On 12/12/17 17:25, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Fabian Arrotin <arr...@centos.org > <mailto:arr...@centos.org>> wrote: > > it's all in the title : what's next for wiki.centos.org > <http://wiki.centos.org> ? > > As a reminder, current wiki.centos.org <http://wiki.centos.org> > instance is powered by moinmoin > (https://moinmo.in/) but quite an old version (moin-1.5.8-3.el6.noarch) > > Recently I had a quick look at trying to update/upgrade that version to > something newer/supported, but it's a nightmare : the data conversion > just kill the target server (oom) and no way to know why. When trying to > get help from moin people in their irc server, I was answered that such > old version wasn't supported, and that those upgrade scripts themselves > aren't supported either, so nobody would help finding why they'd be > buggy without having access to the full data. > > Of course exposing the whole wiki instance (including user/pass) isn't > an option, so except if somebody has really a clue about what can go > wrong with the update script from 1.5 to 1.6 (and then it has to be done > for each major.minor upgrade, so all that in a chained operation), the > migration will be impossible. > > That's why I'd like to discuss a possibility to move wiki to something > else, and that's even why we should discuss the need for a wiki itself. > > If we want to continue to have community written/maintained content, > should be still use a wiki or something else ? Moin was selected ~10y > ago for its simplicity and online editing, but in 2017, most people (dev > and ops) are probably using other workflows, like git/pull-requests/etc. > > So what about exploring other possibilities ? > > I don't have a real proposal (even if mkdocs.org <http://mkdocs.org> > , simple solution with > Markdown, combined with git would be perfect for me) but just wanted to > start a dedicated thread so that we can think about the future of > wiki.centos.org <http://wiki.centos.org> > > Opinions ? Proposals ? anything else ? Fee free to comment :-) > > > I personally would like to see an update to the current wiki. However > if this is not plausible, maybe an alternative like mediawiki can be > considered? > > One note I want to make is that use of git may not be suitable/best for > docs and certainly will be frowned upon by some notable contributors to > the current wiki. > > Akemi > *ack* So maybe we should try to reach out the moinmoin people to see if they'd like to see us continuing using moin or switch to something else. Mediawiki can be investigated, as that's also Fedora switched to in the past. So we already know that : - openid auth works (against FAS, so that will work with ACO) - they probably had some migration scripts somewhere that we can test if needed) -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki.centos.org .. what's next ?
On 11/12/17 10:22, Thibaut Perrin wrote: > Hello Fabien, > > First, thank you for even trying for what seems to be an impossible task :( > > Quick points : > - if it was decided not to continue, what would happen to the current > wiki ? Dismantled or would it remain as read-only for documentation > purpose ? > - What about Sphinx <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/> ? seems to be > frequentely used nowadays > - As you mentioned, a solution of the type of github with pull requests > for documentation updates might be a solution here. > > There is a wiki feature <https://guides.github.com/features/wikis/> on > Github. I don't know to which extend it would fit the needs of the project. > > Hope this helps, > > Thibaut So far there is no decision, reason why I started this thread :) I guess our target would be to convert (and sanitize ?) existing content anyway as we don't want to lose such content. Then either replacing wiki.centos.org with new solution (but trying to keep the same structure so that all the things in cache for search engines and/or articles pointing to wiki can still work) or move to something different and indeed keeping existing wiki.centos.org in Read-Only mode I'd like to avoid Github specifically but having something else that would permit to use ACO (https://acccounts.centos.org) as auth source. I already played with gitea and it works with openid so self-hosted git instance using ACO works fine. (but that's a different thread) We should divide all parts into specific areas. Benefits of using .md means being able to switch to something else even later and not be tied to $yet_another_tool to generate the web part. (just my idea) -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] wiki.centos.org .. what's next ?
it's all in the title : what's next for wiki.centos.org ? As a reminder, current wiki.centos.org instance is powered by moinmoin (https://moinmo.in/) but quite an old version (moin-1.5.8-3.el6.noarch) Recently I had a quick look at trying to update/upgrade that version to something newer/supported, but it's a nightmare : the data conversion just kill the target server (oom) and no way to know why. When trying to get help from moin people in their irc server, I was answered that such old version wasn't supported, and that those upgrade scripts themselves aren't supported either, so nobody would help finding why they'd be buggy without having access to the full data. Of course exposing the whole wiki instance (including user/pass) isn't an option, so except if somebody has really a clue about what can go wrong with the update script from 1.5 to 1.6 (and then it has to be done for each major.minor upgrade, so all that in a chained operation), the migration will be impossible. That's why I'd like to discuss a possibility to move wiki to something else, and that's even why we should discuss the need for a wiki itself. If we want to continue to have community written/maintained content, should be still use a wiki or something else ? Moin was selected ~10y ago for its simplicity and online editing, but in 2017, most people (dev and ops) are probably using other workflows, like git/pull-requests/etc. So what about exploring other possibilities ? I don't have a real proposal (even if mkdocs.org , simple solution with Markdown, combined with git would be perfect for me) but just wanted to start a dedicated thread so that we can think about the future of wiki.centos.org Opinions ? Proposals ? anything else ? Fee free to comment :-) -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Sending git changes on the centos-docs for centos.org website
Hi, Just to let you know that we decided to send all the git notifications to the centos-docs list for the centos.org website. The git repository is hosted on https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=websites/centos.org.git (will be open soon) It's low-traffic, so centos-docs list will not receive a huge amount of notifications, but at least some people on the list will get notification when a git commit was done. -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?
On 11/07/17 17:29, Markus McLaughlin wrote: > Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it? > > If there is a subject that belongs on another list, please direct me to > that... > > Markus McLaughlin > Hi, As several people mentioned it already, such kind of discussion for a SIG (that hasn't been approved yet - still in proposal status - ) would better fit on the centos-devel list, as centos-docs if for the wiki itself, or other docs. Kind Regards, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Fix typo to CentosPackager page in HowTos section
On 12/09/16 14:21, Praveen Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > Current page[0] contain a typo under "Generating your user > certificate" section. If you check Usage of centos-cert tool it > mention > " -n, --new-certGenerate a new Fedora Certificate" instead " > -n, --new-certGenerate a new CentOS Certificate". It would be > nice if someone fix that typo or provide me edit permission to do so. > > https://wiki.centos.org/kumarpraveen > Thanks, instead of fixing the page, the centos-cert tool should be fixed ... pinging Brian to do this -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Documentation on CBS
On 11/07/16 09:42, Timothy Lee wrote: > Dear all, > > During the course of translating the wiki into Chinese, I came across > two pages related to CBS. There is > https://wiki.centos.org/SIGGuide/CommunityBuildsystem , which was copied > from /HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem on 1 March 2016. Then there is > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem , which was last > edited on 22 June 2016. > > Perhaps the authors of those two pages (FabianArrotin and BrianStinson) > can work out where the CBS page belongs in the larger scheme of thing, > and then put the latest content at that location? Thanks! > > Regards, > Timothy Lee AFAIK /HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem has always been the one referenced everywhere, and then also https://wiki.centos.org//HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem/KojiOperations Maybe Brian should just link to those ones, as it appears that he copied/paste content from original page into the SIGGuide one -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Wiki unscheduled outage yesterday
Hi, Some of you probably noticed the fact that we had an issue with the wiki. Nothing was updated on that node (from a pkg PoV) but we already had strange issue when a page was edited with some content that would lead to a traceback. We so restored the last backup (from June 6th) and it was back to normal. If you edited one or more pages on the wiki yesterday, you should have a look and try to edit those again. But verify that wiki is working fine, as we'd like to know which was the last edit that made moinmoin going crazy If you directly see an issue, contact us (the centos infra team) if possible -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Update documentation references
On 31/05/16 14:41, Vitor Lobo wrote: > Hi, > In URL: https://www.centos.org/docs/5/ there's only the references up to > version 5. Since all the references are from docs of redhat enterprise > Linux, how about updating to the current release such references? How > can I do it? Where to send a pull request, for example? Where can I add > content to the main page and other sectors, links? It's a long debate/discussion. You can read the last attempt around this in the following thread : https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2016-March/005908.html Cheers, -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS-docs Digest, Vol 114, Issue 3
You should now be able to edit that /Books page with your wiki username PacktPublishing. Cheers, On 19/05/16 06:13, Partners wrote: > Hi Fabian, > > Thanks for your reply. > > Could you please direct me to the person who could give me the rights to > add our books? > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks & Regards > Sherwin > > *Sherwin Silveira* > *Key Partner Executive* > <https://www.packtpub.com/> > > > > *From: *centos-docs-requ...@centos.org > *To: *centos-docs@centos.org > *Sent: *Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:30:01 PM > *Subject: *CentOS-docs Digest, Vol 114, Issue 3 > > Send CentOS-docs mailing list submissions to > centos-docs@centos.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > centos-docs-requ...@centos.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > centos-docs-ow...@centos.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CentOS-docs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: discussions around upstream documentation (Jim Perrin) >2. Re: Request to contribute to wiki page (CentOS) (Fabian Arrotin) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 07:09:58 -0500 > From: Jim Perrin <jper...@centos.org> > To: centos-docs@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] discussions around upstream documentation > Message-ID: <573b0a16.3050...@centos.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The Fedora team is working on moving away from docbook and xml to > asciidoc. This is a more straightforward approach in the file, with a > reasonably easy syntax to learn. This will let us keep docs in git so > that users who find something and want to fix it can simply submit a > pull request or patch to update and someone responsible can approve or > deny it. > > In the future, it means that non-wiki docs should be easily consumable > and editable. That doesn't help us for the current state of > documentation, but it does help to resolve things for the future. I'm > still working on the state of the existing docs via a few contacts I > made at the docs day. > > On 05/17/2016 04:07 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: >> Jim, >> >> What were the outcomes from a CentOS perspective? >> >> thank you. >> >> regards, >> >> bex >> >> On 04/11/2016 06:18 PM, Jim Perrin wrote: >>> There is a Fedora Activity Day >>> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Documentation_2016 ) centered around >>> documentation, where I'm going to see what can be done about the state >>> of centos documentation from upstream sources. >>> >>> Most of the tooling for documentation for these two groups is centered >>> around git. For the most part, our documentation currently lives in the >>> wiki, and has a fairly high barrier to new contributors. >>> >>> Would the regulars who contribute on the wiki consider consider >>> supporting a migration to a git based documentation workflow? >>> >>> I think this would help lower the barrier to contribution by allowing >>> new contributors to submit a pull request or patch for documentation >>> rather than join a mailing list, request access, etc. >>> >>> What are the thoughts or concerns about this sort of workflow change? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > Jim Perrin > The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org > twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77 > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 18:51:02 +0200 > From: Fabian Arrotin <arr...@centos.org> > To: centos-docs@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to contribute to wiki page (CentOS) > Message-ID: <573b4bf6.8040...@centos.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On 12/05/16 10:00, Fabian Arrotin wrote: >> On 12/05/16 06:12, Partners wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have received the subscription notification. >>> Following is the information required to contribute to the wiki page: >>> >>> Username: PacktPublishing >>> Subject: Book feature on the wiki page >>> Location: https://wiki.centos.org/Books >>> >>> Thanks &
Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to contribute to wiki page (CentOS)
On 12/05/16 10:00, Fabian Arrotin wrote: > On 12/05/16 06:12, Partners wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We have received the subscription notification. >> Following is the information required to contribute to the wiki page: >> >> Username: PacktPublishing >> Subject: Book feature on the wiki page >> Location: https://wiki.centos.org/Books >> >> Thanks & Regards >> Sherwin >> >> *Sherwin Silveira* >> *Key Partner Executive* >> <https://www.packtpub.com/> >> > > Hi, > > Maybe I'm getting this wrong, but the goal of a wiki is to centralize > docs/howtos/tips-n-tricks on the wiki, and not promoting books ? Or are > those books under CC-by-SA license and so fully/freely available somewhere ? > Just reading that again and it seems that /Books already has links to other books, so I guess that the centos-docs team is ok with that. If so, someone can probably give you rights to add your books there. -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to contribute to wiki page (CentOS)
On 12/05/16 06:12, Partners wrote: > Hi, > > We have received the subscription notification. > Following is the information required to contribute to the wiki page: > > Username: PacktPublishing > Subject: Book feature on the wiki page > Location: https://wiki.centos.org/Books > > Thanks & Regards > Sherwin > > *Sherwin Silveira* > *Key Partner Executive* > <https://www.packtpub.com/> > Hi, Maybe I'm getting this wrong, but the goal of a wiki is to centralize docs/howtos/tips-n-tricks on the wiki, and not promoting books ? Or are those books under CC-by-SA license and so fully/freely available somewhere ? -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] discussions around upstream documentation
On 11/04/16 21:11, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Karsten Wade <kw...@redhat.com> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/11/2016 09:18 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: >>> What are the thoughts or concerns about this sort of workflow >>> change? >> >> Any chance Moin Moin can store wiki source in git and sync >> automatically with a central git repository? >> >> It would provide another pathway to suggest edits to the wiki without >> requiring wiki edit permissions. >> >> For new documentation, e.g. layered project content from SIGs or >> upstream documentation sources, I would think we'd want to skip a >> conversion to/from Moin Moin and instead work directly in the sources >> from upstream. Eases merging upstream, etc. Last Summer's GSoC >> students implemented such a workflow. > > I agree with providing another pathway. More specifically, I am > against moving entirely away from the current way of editing the wiki. > > Going for the git environment has its own merits as already mentioned, > but at the same time it would deter some people. Not everyone is > particularly fond of (or familiar with) git. I would not be surprised > if some of the existing wiki authors stop contributing if the direct > edit is no longer an option. > > Akemi That's what I fear too. A wiki is something that has to be edited live, and be quick/fast. Git-based doc is probably something more formalized and for tech writers having to maintain an "official" doc. I (in the past) had a look at http://www.mkdocs.org/ for this (and so all the .md can be in a public git repo that people can submit PR to) While personally I don't mind switching to something using git in the workflow, I'm wondering if such tool shouldn't be used instead to target "official" docs under centos.org/docs and not the wiki. (both can be complementary) just my 0.02$ -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] status of https://wiki.centos.org/Documentation
On 22/03/16 10:21, François Cami wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Manuel Wolfshant > <wo...@nobugconsulting.ro> wrote: >> On 03/22/2016 09:30 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was having a look at that page, and was wondering what we can do for >>> point #3 (Manuals and other documentation) >>> As we have no real content for CentOS 6 and 7 , my idea was just to >>> explain in one line that (while technically not the CentOS >>> documentation) , almost all the points coming from uptream documentation >>> ( - except for subscription manager - ) can be applied to CentOS and so >>> having link from that section to >>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/ >>> >>> Ideas, thoughts, comments ? >>> >> +1 for that. it's long overdue. > > -1 from me, because access.redhat.com documentation contains support > statements which are irrelevant to the CentOS project. I'd very much > like to avoid generating (more) confusion in potential users. > > François Yes, but I was mentioning documentation about how to deploy/configure/maintain it, but you have a point : so the note would need to mention that everything regarding support channels and subscriptions should be considered "not applicable" to CentOS It's true that it can confuse potential users, but not having documentation at all doesn't help, and from what I see in #centos or forums, people are already pointed to the only existing doc, aka the upstream ones -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] status of https://wiki.centos.org/Documentation
Hi, I was having a look at that page, and was wondering what we can do for point #3 (Manuals and other documentation) As we have no real content for CentOS 6 and 7 , my idea was just to explain in one line that (while technically not the CentOS documentation) , almost all the points coming from uptream documentation ( - except for subscription manager - ) can be applied to CentOS and so having link from that section to https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/ Ideas, thoughts, comments ? -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] {Disarmed} Centos Macbook Installations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/11/15 12:45, melkor.kp wrote: > Hi > > I would like to contribute to the CentOS wiki. > > I've created the user RobertoNebot for accessing the centos wiki. I > would like to contribute with CentOS installation instructions for > Macbooks. I think that the right place for this contribution would > be https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops > > Cheers, Roberto Nebot. Hi Roberto, I've created the following wiki page and you have normally edit right on it : https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Apple/Macbook Can you test and start editing the page with relevant informations ? Was wondering if that wouldn't be a good time to review the following page (as there will be some "common" section shared between the two pages) : https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Mactel What do you think ? Thanks a lot for your contribution to the wiki :-) - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlZNv+wACgkQnVkHo1a+xU6siQCeMEhJBAMRcqqk8NyNxt2wVBac N28An1fTgXZfAd/LK5a8I3mG/8q3LJHJ =GsAa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/15 18:49, Ilyas Arinov wrote: > Sorry about second post about that, but we need language sensitive > menu links on wiki.centos.org <http://wiki.centos.org>. For > example, if users pick any language and wants to see HowTo section, > they need open "Learn" section and find there "HowTo" section, or > add language code into every link from menu bar. We should solve > this. Can someone help? Well, it seems you just voluteered ;-) Actually the top bar (called 'navi_bar' in moin) is "static" and defined in the wikiconfig.py file. So I don't think that actually it can support multiple languages dynamically. If someone can have a deeper look at moin and how it can (or not) be done, I guess we're all for it. IIRC someone mentioned in the past another "workaround" : removing all items from navi_bar (like FrontPage, Help, etc ..) and have those replaced with languages that are are already present (and maintained) for the whole wiki, so leading users directly to something like wiki.centos.org/$lang and then forget about navi_bar, and only relying on menu presented on the $lang page itself. That "issue" itself has to be considered, but also the fact that the navi_bar can't be extended to infinity either (moin suggests no more than 6 items in that navi_bar, for readability purposes) - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYSEtYACgkQnVkHo1a+xU7hSwCaA+wakblZq24PiZ24RA7MOVoy GNkAnj4P2jVOCA7Yh7YCedKa4l8Bt69Q =eFuO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Main menu, CentOS Wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/15 22:10, Ilyas Arinov wrote: > Hello and thanks. Another question about wiki. Will it be mobile > adaptive in future and what common stragegy about wiki site or > where can i check this out? Thanks. > I can't answer the question about "mobile adaptive" as I don't know if moin supports that. Also, I don't think we really have a "common strategy" about wiki nor a link we can give you about it. We never really discussed about it, but I guess that it would be a good time to do so. Actually we're still running moin-1.5.8-3.el6.noarch (including the ACL hierarchy patch), but I built (in the past) some intermediate builds if we wanted to test an update to higher (and current) version. One can't simply update from 1.5.x to latest, so it would have to be through multiple (incremental) updates. Those packages are still located on http://people.centos.org/arrfab/CentOS6/moin/ As we never really discussed the need to for the update, nor if we wanted to stick with moin (or migrate to something else), I've never tried the update on a test instance (something that can be done if necessary). With the FAS solution coming soon (I really hope so, as everything is now ready for a "deploy to prod" soon [TM]), it would make sense to see if moin can use it as authentication source too. - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYSDyUACgkQnVkHo1a+xU53HQCggjug1NascTPjqJXg8s7bT3/E ekUAnRP0agfhcIobDLKz/GUjF2/dI7xB =8X9h -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] How GSoC project can fit in to CentOS Docs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/08/15 18:23, kunaal jain wrote: Would start with the note that the basic project is complete. I would be releasing the prototype on a separate thread. But for the discussion sake the workflow will look like this : Authors contribute content in markdown format, on github. The pull request created gets mirrored to pagure thus saving dependency on github. Also the PR content is built using CI to preview how it looks. The PR is two way synced between the platforms, so that individual can use pagure or github. Once staff approves the post, website is built and deployed. snip So, trying to understand the goal : can you define what you mean by website is built and deployed ? Do you mean you produce MoinMoin compatible syntax and sorted by categories/hierarchy, to then be automatically synced to wiki.centos.org ? Or do you mean another (and so parallel) website ? Wrt pagure, I admit I looked at it and found it cool, plus I know Pierre-Yves (hey !). But wondering if adding yet-another-git-server-plus-layer is the way to go in our infra, while all centos git repositories are hosted on a gitblit powered server (on git.centos.org) Is that possible to have an overview of the infra and goals (aka the architecture) of this GSoC doc project ? that would help understanding, as I agree that I'm currently lost, and I'm probably not the only one, also the reason for that thread :-) - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlW/xmUACgkQnVkHo1a+xU6ylQCgml2UgH9Q9DuRczbdZNqedudw yTQAn0NvZtyfNgCyhnvE/OifBXC62CLw =vV7K -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Where is the official doc for CentOS 7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/15 05:05, Peng Yu wrote: Hi, I don't see the official doc for CentOS 7. Does anybody know where is it? Thanks. https://www.centos.org/docs/ and same for CentOS 6 .. it seems difficult to know what to do for those docs, so I'd be in favor of either finding a solution (involving lawyers) or just getting rid of that /docs (as it doesn't look nice in the current state) - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlTfCVYACgkQnVkHo1a+xU4JuACdFBDNKIdKswyw4JEU17ayXCA9 QJcAoJWnSDZbRxFLv9XTSL83ndXAnVo9 =FpVh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Fwd: CentOS.org redirected links in wiki.c.o/Download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/02/15 05:58, PatrickD Garvey wrote: From: PatrickD Garvey patrickdgarv...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM Subject: CentOS.org redirected links in wiki.c.o/Download To: CentOS-docs - centos-docs@CentOS.org centos-docs@centos.org The following links in wiki.c.o/Download: [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/isos/i386/ i386] [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/isos/x86_64/ x86_64] [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/isos/i386/ i386] [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/isos/x86_64/ x86_64] get redirected to: [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/6/isos/i386/ i386] [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/6/isos/x86_64/ x86_64] [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/i386/ i386] [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/x86_64/ x86_64] but [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/ x86_64] [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/ RPMs] [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/ RPMs] [http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5/ RPMs] do NOT get redirected. Should the first list be changed in wiki.c.o/Download? Should both lists be changed? Should neither list be changed? Does anyone have any advice? Trying to understand the issue : all links on the wiki point to mirror.centos.org .. but the RewriteRule happens at the mirror.centos.org level when trying to reach /isos/* .. I don't see a problem here. Can you elaborate ? Or do you just want to switch mirror.centos.org to isoredirect directly ? - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlTZpY4ACgkQnVkHo1a+xU51RACglawiL2fuaRPKX+CzH8dszwM1 /HUAnjKTkNL/HPDj6c30+rbAO6ps+cue =BvY2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki navibar Newsletter reference
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/01/15 02:25, PatrickD Garvey wrote: Every wiki page contains a link to http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/Latest in the navibar at the top and bottom of the page. Currently that redirects to http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/1005 which is the Newsletter dated 10 July 2010, hardly current news. Perhaps someone can suggest a better communication vehicle to display when the Newsletter link is selected? And change whatever master wiki page implements the link? I was thinking about that Newsletter link last week too, and I think we have two choices : * delete the link in the master page (easier/faster) * try to resurrect that Newsletter (harder) I'd vote myself for #1 - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlSzZ9MACgkQnVkHo1a+xU55owCeO9OwFdUGBehmu49bo42wsqir DqQAnA5qQSjGEsl9WguodJ8XW4fJt2Rb =9/78 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] removing/redirecting the Projects page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, We've decided to decomission the (old and unused) trac instance on projects.centos.org. We'll just redirect to git.centos.org instead (where all the fun happens). So, what to do with the http://wiki.centos.org/Projects page ? deleting it ? redireting to http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup (as now most of the things outside of Core happens through SIGs) Searching for opinions .. - -- Fabian Arrotin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlSr/hMACgkQnVkHo1a+xU5NQACcC8/IV7ZEO4vw6J7SoP2Dp3Fi x8cAoJkZauCoC7x1rG7mcZ1tJ4lWx/lm =2+TO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Syntax for ACLs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/09/14 22:25, Karsten Wade wrote: On 09/30/2014 09:45 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Hey all, Is there better documentation on setting up ACLs for the wiki than what's here? (http://wiki.centos.org/SyntaxReference?action=showredirect=centoswiki%2FSyntaxReference) FWIW, I've been not using ACLs, meaning I think I've left any page I write as open for all writers/editors (which is fine with me, I prefer a flat ACL structure for 99% of wiki content.) Also, I don't think I have permissions to set ACLs in all cases, where I've tried I've been bounced. - Karsten Well, even if you think that you were not using ACLs, there are default ACLs in place all over the wiki. The moin instance/version used at the moment even had a specific patch to allow hierarchical ACL (http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinPatch/HierarchicalACL) :-) - -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQrj9YACgkQnVkHo1a+xU6wUwCfXVKK3kX2DKe0b7CPcdQWhXz9 eoIAn00PwNTJXnGQfTy+SyypLfpf+y5E =kRHz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Scheduling migration for wiki.centos.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As I received positive feedback from testers (thank you all !) on the wikitesting.centos.org moin instance, I think we can say that we'll migrate the real wiki.centos.org very soon ... I'm actually moving some services around (pdns/msync roles) to free a machine that will be able to host the moin/wiki role. Depending on the available time, I'll probably switch dns A record next week. Our current TTL is 60 seconds, so very short, and that will ease the migration. I'll though send a mail to the centos-announce list too, so that people using a strange DNS resolver overriding our TTL (we had that issue for the lists.centos.org move) will be aware of the migration. And, as quoted from a saying, if you have something to say, say it now or never ! :-) Cheers, - -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlQQVAkACgkQnVkHo1a+xU4h+QCcCYzNbw4Yh2G4xKmSQMdOTYCA 61cAn3nNtoC9tdEW4rKfrweb3oOTc7Vd =uNog -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Testing Wiki migration - asking for testers
Hi nice people interested in CentOS Docs and wiki ! There were already threads about migrating the wiki to something else (mediawiki, $other), or staying with moinmoin (what we now have in place). This mail isn't about that thread (but feel free to start a new one about that possible migration or not), but about just migrating the current moinmoin instance from the current machine to a new one. I've installed a test machine (CentOS 6, with selinux in enforcing mode, our standard now everywhere) on which I've installed moinmoin (but same version as the one running now on wiki.centos.org (so moin-1.5.8-3.el6.noarch vs moin-1.5.8-2.acls.el4.centos.noarch ) Can I ask all of you to do some intensive tests around that test instance please ? So far it seems to work (editing page, login, reset password with email , etc) but we'd like to be sure before migrating wiki.centos.org Can I so ask for you collaboration/feedback please ? and surely if it's a yeah, works for me [TM] :-) The data on that testing instance is the one from 2014-09-01 (so two days ago), so your login should work with the same password that you were (or are still) using two days ago. http://wikitesting.centos.org PS : we've just added a basic auth to block some search engines from crawling/indexing that wiki instance, and have duplicate pages indexed. Happy testing ! -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Testing Wiki migration - asking for testers
On 03/09/14 11:10, Fabian Arrotin wrote: snip http://wikitesting.centos.org PS : we've just added a basic auth to block some search engines from crawling/indexing that wiki instance, and have duplicate pages indexed. And replying to myself, in case people would not see it in the auth box in their browser : centos:testing .. :-) -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Testing Wiki migration - asking for testers
On 03/09/14 13:33, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote: Hi nice people interested in CentOS Docs and wiki ! Can I ask all of you to do some intensive tests around that test instance please ? So far it seems to work (editing page, login, reset password with email , etc) but we'd like to be sure before migrating wiki.centos.org Can I so ask for you collaboration/feedback please ? and surely if it's a yeah, works for me [TM] :-) The data on that testing instance is the one from 2014-09-01 (so two days ago), so your login should work with the same password that you were (or are still) using two days ago. http://wikitesting.centos.org My credentials that work on the CentOS wiki don't work on the testing one. hmm, you're the first one to mention that issue, as other people were able to log in, edit page, etc ... from the log on wikitesting.c.o : user ScottRobbins not found: / :-) Can you verify your credentials on wiki.centos.org please ? -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Testing Wiki migration - asking for testers
On 03/09/14 14:19, Fabian Arrotin wrote: On 03/09/14 13:33, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote: Hi nice people interested in CentOS Docs and wiki ! Can I ask all of you to do some intensive tests around that test instance please ? So far it seems to work (editing page, login, reset password with email , etc) but we'd like to be sure before migrating wiki.centos.org Can I so ask for you collaboration/feedback please ? and surely if it's a yeah, works for me [TM] :-) The data on that testing instance is the one from 2014-09-01 (so two days ago), so your login should work with the same password that you were (or are still) using two days ago. http://wikitesting.centos.org My credentials that work on the CentOS wiki don't work on the testing one. hmm, you're the first one to mention that issue, as other people were able to log in, edit page, etc ... from the log on wikitesting.c.o : user ScottRobbins not found: / :-) Can you verify your credentials on wiki.centos.org please ? hmm, there is a ScottRobbins user account on the wiki (aliasname=scottro) so can you try a reset password operation ? (but it worked directly for other users without any need to reset their credentials though) -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Testing Wiki migration - asking for testers
On 03/09/14 14:27, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 02:19:09PM +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote: On 03/09/14 13:33, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote: Hi nice people interested in CentOS Docs and wiki ! The data on that testing instance is the one from 2014-09-01 (so two days ago), so your login should work with the same password that you were (or are still) using two days ago. http://wikitesting.centos.org My credentials that work on the CentOS wiki don't work on the testing one. hmm, you're the first one to mention that issue, as other people were able to log in, edit page, etc ... from the log on wikitesting.c.o : user ScottRobbins not found: / :-) Can you verify your credentials on wiki.centos.org please ? Sorry, I did that before sending the previous email, which is what I meant by ...that work on the CentOS wiki I should have made that clearer. I haven't contributed to the wiki in quite awhile, but I am able to log into it. hmm, something crossed my mind : have you see the the basic http auth for the wiki is centos:testing .. and then you have access to the normal wiki (so you can there use your ScottRobbins user account) ... Just wanted to be sure that we're indeed talking about wiki rejecting your creds and not the apache basic auth :-) -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki write access request
On 01/09/14 22:46, Patrick Slattery wrote: Hi, I'd like write access to the wiki - initially to just the following pages: http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/Docker Add how-to build the Docker base images yourself. (There are cases -such as an isolated private cloud- where this may be necessary) http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Subversion Refresh for CentOS 7 / SVN 1.8 / Add AD integration how-to I would also like to have the rights to create/edit a personal public home page on the wiki as described on the Contribute page for use for notes/drafts etc. My area of interest are: OS install automation Docker / Atomic OpenStack (Just starting with this) Windows/AD/OS X integration SCM management However I'd like to contribute in other areas too, I like to write unambiguous and accurate docs and I'm willing to test out contributions by others to help the overall project. My wiki ID is: patrickmslatteryvt Thanks, Patrick M. Slattery I've normally added you on the ACL so can you check please ? -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request for the CentOS Wiki
On 31/07/14 12:09, Julien Pivotto wrote: Good morning, I would like to have access to the CentOS wiki, in particular the DoJo Section. I will speak at the CentOS DoJo in Paris and I would like to be able to edit the abstract of my talk on the http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Paris2014 page (there is a typo). My username is JulienPivotto Thank you. Hi Julien, Can you verify it's working now ? Cheers, -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] More wiki access, please
On 11/03/14 04:17, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Howdy - Was trying to revive the CentOS Newsletter and went to edit this page: http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/Contributing And was told I don't have access. Can I get access to that page / pages related to the Newsletter, please? Hi Joe, The Newsletter initiative is actually dead (from a content perpective) : do you plan to resurrect it ? :-) As the page says , you have to be added to the Newslettergroup, and I'm not able to add you in that group, so we have to wait for a wiki admin to do that. Cheers, -- Fabian Arrotin gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] CentOS 6 (and 5.6) doc on http://www.centos.org/docs
Hi documentation team, As CentOS 6 is now being released to the mirrors, it would be a good time to think about putting the accurate documentation on http://www.centos.org/docs Red Hat changed their documentation license in the past and they are now using the CC-by-SA license. My own understanding (but IANAL) is that we can just share the documentation , and just linking back to upstream without modifying the documentation. That would be easier for newer doc as every 'bit' that is CentOS specific should/would be in our release note wiki page for that version. Read the Legal Notice section for example on that page : http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/index.html As well as the CC-by-SA license here : http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ What are your ideas on that ? Fabian ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Planet CentOS
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ralph Angenendtra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: If the planet.c.o. is meant for the contributors and not limited to the developers, then the description on www.centos.org would have to be corrected and Dag should stay on. What do you think ?? Ralph I agree that we should trim as much as we can. But, you are not supposed to trim your own reply... Akemi Akemi, maybe i'm wrong but i think that (knowing Ralph a little bit now ...) it was his answer : You asked 'what do you think' and he replied with an empty mail so .. ;-) If i follow your conclusions on planet.centos.org , my blog feed needs also to be removed (because i'm a contributor and not a 'developer') .. -- -- Fabian Arrotin idea=`grep -i clue /dev/brain` test -z $idea echo sorry, init 6 in progress || sh ./answer.sh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: 2009/6/11 Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Yes, of course. You need to setup priorities plugin to prevent damaging CentOS packages, import signing key etc. I understand the rpmforge-release package automatically installs GPG keys. How can it do that? You need to install GPG key to verify the rpmforge-release package itself ;) My script just follows the guidelines in wiki here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge It just automates everything, that is listed there. Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi Hmm, which is not exact : my key appearead only in rpmforge-release-0.4.0-1 (still tagged as Test and so not available on the rpmforge mirror) Something to be fixed ! ;-) -- -- Fabian Arrotin idea=`grep -i clue /dev/brain` test -z $idea echo sorry, init 6 in progress || sh ./answer.sh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] OT: download wiki theme from wiki.centos.org
carlopmart wrote: Hi all, How can I download wiki theme designed for wiki.centos.org? I have tried with this command, but it doesn't works: svn export https://projects.centos.org/svn/artwork/trunk/MoinThemeDesign did you mean `svn co https://projects.centos.org/svn/artwork/trunk/Extras/Moin/ ` ? -- -- Fabian Arrotin idea=`grep -i clue /dev/brain` test -z $idea echo sorry, init 6 in progress || sh ./answer.sh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki contribs 4 centos
Steffen Mann wrote: Hello Gents, I feel I should do more for the community and contribute writing the occasional wiki article to improof the overall centos experience. Having worked for the upsteam .src provider for nearly 7 years I should be able to do so... Hope you'll open this up4me Cheers, Steff Hi Steffen, If you're used to this list, you know that you have to provide your existing wiki login name (and if you don't have one already you can create it , FirstnameLastname being the convention) Then ask on this list which topic you want to write on (and provide some kind of draft maybe) and then Ralph (aka the Wiki Master) can change the ACLs on the newly created page for your topic .. Welcome :D -- -- Fabian Arrotin idea=`grep -i clue /dev/brain` ; test -z $idea echo sorry, init 6 in progress || sh ./answer.sh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Dag Wieers wrote: Hi, This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p I know I should have put it on the development wiki first and get consensus, but sadly I cannot find the development wiki (thought it was wiki-m.centos.org, but that one is not responding). If people object to it, feel free to remove it. However I think it looks fine, even when the screenshot could be improved. (Although we should not make the screenshot too complex) -- - Fabian Arrotin fabian.arro...@arrfab.net Internet network currently down, TCP/IP packets delivered now by UPS/Fedex ... ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki external links
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 21:02 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Dag Wieers wrote:
Hi,
I am personally not that fond of the little globe that precedes all the
external links in the Wiki. Often it disturbs in the reading of a
paragraph and whether a links is external or internal should not matter to
the user at all.
I've just been working on the wiki and see what you mean. I think its a
good idea to have them there, so people know its a url to an external
site, however we definitely should try and get something that is not as
stark and harsh. I like the way Trac does external urls (eg:
http://trac.edgewall.org/ ) , and their image seems to blend in quite
well into the text around it.
What are the chances we might be able to get something similar ?
copy the icon from their site, view their css, modify ours ? ;-)
From the page source :
a class=ext-link
href=http://www.hosted-projects.com/trac/TracDemo/Demo;span
class=icondemo site/span
From their css :
a.ext-link .icon {
background: url(../extlink.gif) left center no-repeat;
padding-left: 16px;
and here is the gif : http://www.edgewall.org/chrome/common/extlink.gif
But i don't know if their css/design is protected or not ?
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