Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute - Request

[Akemi Yagi]

n Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:40 PM robert.grum...@t-online.de
 wrote:
>
> Hello PaaS SIG,
>
> I would like to get the permission to edit the wiki (s)
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/PaaS/OpenShift/*
>
> There are unfortunately a few mistakes here and also incomplete information, 
> which I would like to correct.
>
> Thank you very much
>
> Robert

Is your wiki name RobertGrumann?

Akemi
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[CentOS-docs] Contribute - Request

[robert.grum...@t-online.de]

Hello PaaS SIG,
 
I would like to get the permission to edit the wiki (s)
 
https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/PaaS/OpenShift/*

 
There are unfortunately a few mistakes here and also incomplete 
information, which I would like to correct.
 
Thank you very much
 
Robert
 
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute - request

[Akemi Yagi]

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Lucian Maly  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:28 AM Akemi Yagi  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Lucian Maly  wrote:
>> > Hi, i would like to contribute to the WiKi. Lots of the articles are
>> > outdated...
>> >
>> > Username: LucianMaly
>> > Proposed subject of my contribution(s): for example
>> > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype and
>> > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/OS_Protection plus some others
>> > Proposed location of my contribution(s): mainly HowTos, TipsAndTricks
>> >
>> > P.S. I use CentOS 7 on daily basis, at work and on my laptop.
>> >
>> > Lucian M.
>>
>> Hi Lucian,
>>
>> Please start with the articles under HowTo. You should have the edit
>> access now. Let us know if you find any problem.
>>
>> TIA for your contribution,
>>
>> Akemi

> Hi Akemi,
>
> I am unable to edit any pages. Not even my homepage
> (https://wiki.centos.org/LucianMaly?action=edittemplate=HomepageTemplate)
> Please advise.
>
> Lucian

Your homepage is here:

https://wiki.centos.org/LucianMaly

You should be able to edit any page under
https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos . If you are still unable to edit, try
logging out and then log back in.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute - request

[Lucian Maly]

Hi Akemi,

I am unable to edit any pages. Not even my homepage (
https://wiki.centos.org/LucianMaly?action=edittemplate=HomepageTemplate
)
Please advise.

Lucian

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:28 AM Akemi Yagi  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Lucian Maly  wrote:
> > Hi, i would like to contribute to the WiKi. Lots of the articles are
> > outdated...
> >
> > Username: LucianMaly
> > Proposed subject of my contribution(s): for example
> > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype and
> > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/OS_Protection plus some others
> > Proposed location of my contribution(s): mainly HowTos, TipsAndTricks
> >
> > P.S. I use CentOS 7 on daily basis, at work and on my laptop.
> >
> > Lucian M.
>
> Hi Lucian,
>
> Please start with the articles under HowTo. You should have the edit
> access now. Let us know if you find any problem.
>
> TIA for your contribution,
>
> Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute - request

[Akemi Yagi]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Lucian Maly  wrote:
> Hi, i would like to contribute to the WiKi. Lots of the articles are
> outdated...
>
> Username: LucianMaly
> Proposed subject of my contribution(s): for example
> https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype and
> https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/OS_Protection plus some others
> Proposed location of my contribution(s): mainly HowTos, TipsAndTricks
>
> P.S. I use CentOS 7 on daily basis, at work and on my laptop.
>
> Lucian M.

Hi Lucian,

Please start with the articles under HowTo. You should have the edit
access now. Let us know if you find any problem.

TIA for your contribution,

Akemi
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[CentOS-docs] Contribute - request

[Lucian Maly]

Hi, i would like to contribute to the WiKi. Lots of the articles are
outdated...

*Username: LucianMaly*
*Proposed subject of my contribution(s): for
example https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Skype
 and
https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/OS_Protection
 plus some others*
*Proposed location of my contribution(s): mainly HowTos, TipsAndTricks*

P.S. I use CentOS 7 on daily basis, at work and on my laptop.

Lucian M.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Ralph Angenendt]

Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 I would like to contribute for Tips  Tricks section with a small
 automated script to install webmin repository data and webmin itself
 from here: 
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20223forum=38post_id=76546#forumpost76546

Okay, go ahead with this one.

 And also I would like to contribute automated RPM forge repository
 installation script:
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20222forum=38post_id=76525#forumpost76525
 after it will be checked by forum users and found to be error-free.

I'm still thinking if this should be put into the RPMForge installation
HowTo and where it will fit there. Any opinions?

 I would like also to have a homepage on centos.org website or a blog
 there to share some solutions, that are not yet ready for official
 Wiki.

http://wiki.centos.org/VladislavRastrusny

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Vladislav Rastrusny]

Created a draft. Any comments?

Also how Do I create textual links to wiki pages?
[[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo WebMinRepo Description]] and
[[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo|WebMinRepo Description]] don't work.

2009/5/13 Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
  I would like to contribute for Tips  Tricks section with a small
  automated script to install webmin repository data and webmin itself
  from here: 
  http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20223forum=38post_id=76546#forumpost76546

 Okay, go ahead with this one.

 Ummm.

 http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo

 =:)

 Ralph

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Phil Schaffner]

Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 Created a draft. Any comments?

Please don't top-post.  Would also be good to do a new post with a 
descriptive title like:

Subject: Draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

That would better capture attention than one buried in a long thread.

Will have a look at your page today.

 Also how Do I create textual links to wiki pages?
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo WebMinRepo Description]] and
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo|WebMinRepo Description]] don't work.

It's a bit confusing.  See http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Wiki/Editing 
but note that a relative link starts with / and an absolute link does 
not - seems backwards to me.

So if editing the TipsAndTricks page then a relative link to WebMinRepo 
looks like

[:/WebMinRepo:Description]

and an absolute link looks like

[:TipsAndTricks/WebMinRepo:Description]

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Ralph Angenendt]

Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 Created a draft. Any comments?
 
 Also how Do I create textual links to wiki pages?
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo WebMinRepo Description]] and
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo|WebMinRepo Description]] don't work.

What exactly are you trying to do?

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Phil Schaffner]

Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
...
 And also I would like to contribute automated RPM forge repository
 installation script:
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20222forum=38post_id=76525#forumpost76525
 after it will be checked by forum users and found to be error-free.
 
 I'm still thinking if this should be put into the RPMForge installation
 HowTo and where it will fit there. Any opinions?

My original suggestion to Vladislav was that it could be a subpage 
linked from the RPMForge page.  An alternative might be to put it in 
TipsAndTricks as an example of automating repo configs.  Could still 
link from the RPMforge page but the latter would give it higher visibility.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[JohnS]

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:29 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 
  Okay. I'm waiting for comments here - php as a scripting language?
  Strange :)
 
 not at all -- have used it for years; did a LUG presentation 
 as well.  It can live well in the inittab and run as a daemon 
 process for very rapid prototyping.
   http://www.colug.net/notes/0208mtg/
 
 -- Russ herrold
---
One thing that en lighted me about it was the use of it in Free NAS the
BSD based fileserver.

JohnStanley

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[JohnS]

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:28 +0400, Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
  I hate Webmin period. I like the scripted install though.
 Period? What period? Education period? :) I think that depends on the
 admin. Some like GUI tools, some don't. If I can do something faster
 with GUI, I'll do that with GUI. I think command-liners and GUI
 lovers are two opposite sides in the the-best-admin-way
 confrontation ;)
---
I think the reason I dislike it so much is because I had to learn the
hard way. As in from the command line. You will never learn anything by
using a GUI. In fact some things can not be done by GUI. Although if
linux based GUIs worked wonders like M$ then I would have a different
train of thought on it but it's not the Linux/Unix Administration way.

I myself had no choice it just got dropped on me and I was told, learn
it or have no job.

JohnStanley 

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[JohnS]

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 23:04 +0400, Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I was advised by the forum moderator to ask for contribution:
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20223forum=38post_id=76546#forumpost76546
 
  My wiki login is VladislavRastrusny
 
 I would like to contribute for Tips  Tricks section with a small
 automated script to install webmin repository data and webmin itself
 from here: 
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20223forum=38post_id=76546#forumpost76546

I hate Webmin period. I like the scripted install though.

 And also I would like to contribute automated RPM forge repository
 installation script:
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20222forum=38post_id=76525#forumpost76525
 after it will be checked by forum users and found to be error-free.

Hmm, I like that script also. But I have a slight problem. It or (Both)
should be in Python, Shell or Bash and not PHP. PHP in my opinion is
more of a web scripting language but I'm aware it can used in system
configuration also.

I myself on server installs would use scripts like this in %post in
Kickstart. Keep in mind file servers usually do not have PHP installed.
Python is always there because a majority of Administration Tools depend
on it.

JohnStanley


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Vladislav Rastrusny]

2009/5/12 Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de:
 Noted. That would fit under Admin tricks and shell one-liners,
 wouldn't it?
Yes, I think this is the place because it is very simple and plain.

 Okay. I'm waiting for comments here - php as a scripting language?
 Strange :)
Why strange ;) I think PHP is no worse than Perl. I think the choice
of scripting language for tools is up to the developer. I don't see
why bash or perl is better than php. At least php-cli is very easy to
be installed (just one yum command) and does not cause the threat to
the system security. Of course not all servers has it, but I prefer
PHP scripts because they are much easy to read and understand
comparing to Perl and Bash especially for novice users (I think
professionals have their own scripts for everything :) ).

 Oh, we'd all like that, but there is no such thing at the moment. You
 can get your own HomePage on the wiki :)
:) Ok, thank you ;)

 Oh, and please - put a bit more prose around the scripts, like what do
 do where and why (and why people should use the webmin.repo, what to
 watch out for, ...)
Ok, I will!
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[David Dreggors]

Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 
 Okay. I'm waiting for comments here - php as a scripting language?
 Strange :)
 

Yes and No... to many of us it may seem odd, we all know that shell 
scripting is faster and way more powerful than php. We also know that 
one could accomplish the same thing in half the lines and that this 
script would be able to go on ANY CentOS install with no problems using 
a shell script.

On the other hand, you use what you know. Bourne Shell/Bash/(t)csh/etc 
may be too much for some. Perl is definitely a hard language to grasp as 
well. Php is easy to pick up. Not to mention that there are many that do 
not realize that php-cli can accomplish this. It maybe an unknown art 
that some find interesting and useful. Not php as a whole but rather 
using php on the command line.

Either way, seems like it fits well in a tips and tricks area, because 
it is a trick that not many would expect... think about all our 
reactions when he suggested it!
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Vladislav Rastrusny]

Yes, I agree ;)
The problem is that I am not familiar with this language ;)

2009/5/12 William L. Maltby centos4b...@triad.rr.com:

 On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:23 +0400, Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 2009/5/12 Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de:
 snip

  Okay. I'm waiting for comments here - php as a scripting language?
  Strange :)
 Why strange ;) I think PHP is no worse than Perl. I think the choice
 of scripting language for tools is up to the developer. I don't see
 why bash or perl is better than php. At least php-cli is very easy to
 be installed (just one yum command) and does not cause the threat to
 the system security. Of course not all servers has it, but I prefer
 PHP scripts because they are much easy to read and understand
 comparing to Perl and Bash especially for novice users (I think
 professionals have their own scripts for everything :) ).

 And another thing professionals consider is the scope of coverage. *If*
 you want the widest application, you consider the tolls available on the
 targets of your effort. If certain of those targets are unlikely to have
 your preferred language on it, you can reduce your targets or choose a
 language that is more likely to be available on your targets.

 For widest possible coverage, something like bash should be considered.

 snip

 --
 Bill

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[CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[R P Herrold]

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:

 Okay. I'm waiting for comments here - php as a scripting language?
 Strange :)

not at all -- have used it for years; did a LUG presentation 
as well.  It can live well in the inittab and run as a daemon 
process for very rapid prototyping.
http://www.colug.net/notes/0208mtg/

-- Russ herrold
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[CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[R P Herrold]

On Tue, 12 May 2009, William L. Maltby wrote:

 For widest possible coverage, something like bash should be considered.

curious -- when coding under that criterion, I end up at:
/bin/sh
in my script's shebang   ;)

-- Russ herrold
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[William L. Maltby]

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:42 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009, William L. Maltby wrote:
 
  For widest possible coverage, something like bash should be considered.
 
 curious -- when coding under that criterion, I end up at:
   /bin/sh
 in my script's shebang   ;)

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr  1 17:17 /bin/sh - bash

As it should be. In my experience, most admins set this to the preferred
shell interpreter (csh, bash, ...). That, of course, leads to possible
incompatibilities. In my shells, I use /bin/bash. This works most places
if I'm targeting GNU systems.

IMO, if you code shell to the lowest common denominator (avoiding very
useful shell-specific syntax and functionality) you can achieve wide
coverage. But then the level of knowledge needed goes up (must have
familiarity with multiple shell interpreters - csh, bash, ksh, ...) so
as to avoid shell specificity.

Not many of us have been around long enough to have had exposure to
those differences, and even if we have, how much have we forgotten?
Reading the man pages to refresh oneself is such a drag!  :-(

 
 -- Russ herrold
 snip sig stuff

-- 
Bill

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[CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[R P Herrold]

On Tue, 12 May 2009, William L. Maltby wrote:


 On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:42 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:

 For widest possible coverage, something like bash should be considered.
 curious -- when coding under that criterion, I end up at:
  /bin/sh
 in my script's shebang   ;)

 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr  1 17:17 /bin/sh - bash

 As it should be.

The use of a link is not a statement that /bin/sh behaves as 
bash;  the interpreter notes how it was called, and acts to 
the shell dialect restrictions chosen by how it is invoked.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Vladislav Rastrusny]

I didn't mean to start a holy war here! ;) Bash is also ok ;)

2009/5/12 R P Herrold herr...@centos.org:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009, William L. Maltby wrote:


 On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:42 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:

 For widest possible coverage, something like bash should be considered.
 curious -- when coding under that criterion, I end up at:
      /bin/sh
 in my script's shebang   ;)

 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr  1 17:17 /bin/sh - bash

 As it should be.

 The use of a link is not a statement that /bin/sh behaves as
 bash;  the interpreter notes how it was called, and acts to
 the shell dialect restrictions chosen by how it is invoked.

 -- Russ herrold
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Akemi Yagi]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Vladislav Rastrusny
fractali...@yandex.ru wrote:
 I didn't mean to start a holy war here! ;) Bash is also ok ;)

Yeah, let's not do it.  Otherwise, someone would start C-shell bashing
soon... Are you listening, Evolution? :-D

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[William L. Maltby]

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:33 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009, William L. Maltby wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:42 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
 
  For widest possible coverage, something like bash should be considered.
  curious -- when coding under that criterion, I end up at:
 /bin/sh
  in my script's shebang   ;)
 
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr  1 17:17 /bin/sh - bash
 
  As it should be.
 
 The use of a link is not a statement that /bin/sh behaves as 
 bash;  the interpreter notes how it was called, and acts to 
 the shell dialect restrictions chosen by how it is invoked.

Yep. See how much I had forgotten? Soon as I read those words, Oh
Yeah!

 
 -- Russ herrold
 snip sig stuff

-- 
Bill (no holy war here, ever)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Filipe Brandenburger]

Hi,

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:22, William L. Maltby
centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote:
 In my experience, most admins set this to the preferred
 shell interpreter (csh, bash, ...).

/bin/sh is the standard path for the Bourne Shell. If you change that
to the C shell or something else that is not compatible with the
Bourne Shell (bash is supposed to be compatible), your box is as
good as broken...

Filipe
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

[Manuel Wolfshant]

On 05/12/2009 10:19 PM, Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
 Hi,

 On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:22, William L. Maltby
 centos4b...@triad.rr.com wrote:
   
 In my experience, most admins set this to the preferred
 shell interpreter (csh, bash, ...).
 

 /bin/sh is the standard path for the Bourne Shell. 
No, it's not. It just happens that by accident in most linux 
distributions bash is installed/configured to also act as being /bin/sh 
(i.e. with all the restrictions created by the language difference). But 
it's far from being a general Unix rule. Actually I think that Russ 
already implied that...


 If you change that
 to the C shell or something else that is not compatible with the
 Bourne Shell (bash is supposed to be compatible), your box is as
 good as broken...
Try to tell that to someone who has used SunOS (as normal user, not as 
root -- friends know what I mean here in the context of SunOs=9 ) for a 
couple of years :)
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