Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-03-05 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 05/03/2015 18:25, Alan Bartlett ha scritto:
> On 5 March 2015 at 15:33, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> can you give me access to:
>> http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization
> 
> ACK. You should now have editorial access to that page.
> 
> Do you have or do you require a CentOS wiki "home page"?

Yes, I have it here: http://wiki.centos.org/SandroBonazzola

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-03-05 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 5 March 2015 at 15:33, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
> Hi,
> can you give me access to:
> http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization

ACK. You should now have editorial access to that page.

Do you have or do you require a CentOS wiki "home page"?

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[CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-03-05 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Hi,
can you give me access to:
http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-02-16 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 16 February 2015 at 16:30, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
> Il 16/02/2015 16:06, Alan Bartlett ha scritto:
>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:55, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
>>> Il 13/01/2015 17:08, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
 Hi,
 I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
 I would like to get access and contribute to 
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
 My wiki account is SandroBonazzola
>>>
>>> Can you give me access also to:
>>> http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization/Roadmap
>>
>> It should now be possible for you to edit the "Roadmap" page. Please check.
>
> It works, thanks.

Thank you for the confirmation.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-02-16 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 16/02/2015 16:06, Alan Bartlett ha scritto:
> On 16 February 2015 at 14:55, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
>> Il 13/01/2015 17:08, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
>>> I would like to get access and contribute to 
>>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
>>> My wiki account is SandroBonazzola
>>
>> Can you give me access also to:
>> http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization/Roadmap
> 
> It should now be possible for you to edit the "Roadmap" page. Please check.

It works, thanks.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-02-16 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 16 February 2015 at 14:55, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
> Il 13/01/2015 17:08, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
>> Hi,
>> I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
>> I would like to get access and contribute to 
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
>> My wiki account is SandroBonazzola
>
> Can you give me access also to:
> http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization/Roadmap

It should now be possible for you to edit the "Roadmap" page. Please check.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-02-16 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 13/01/2015 17:08, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
> Hi,
> I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
> I would like to get access and contribute to 
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
> My wiki account is SandroBonazzola

Can you give me access also to:
http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization/Roadmap

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-01-13 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 13/01/2015 22:41, Alan Bartlett ha scritto:
> On 13 January 2015 at 16:08, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
>> I would like to get access and contribute to 
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
>> My wiki account is SandroBonazzola
>>
>> Thanks,
> 
> Assuming I have not made a mistake with the acl, you should now have
> edit access to the /HowTos/oVirt page. I have also initialised a
> Homepage for you.
> 
> Please check and let me -- or any one the Admin Team -- know if there
> is a problem.

Thanks, it seems to work fine.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-01-13 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 13 January 2015 at 16:08, Sandro Bonazzola  wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
> I would like to get access and contribute to 
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
> My wiki account is SandroBonazzola
>
> Thanks,

Assuming I have not made a mistake with the acl, you should now have
edit access to the /HowTos/oVirt page. I have also initialised a
Homepage for you.

Please check and let me -- or any one the Admin Team -- know if there
is a problem.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-01-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/13/2015 04:08 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
> I would like to get access and contribute to 
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
> My wiki account is SandroBonazzola

+1 from me


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[CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-01-13 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Hi,
I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
I would like to get access and contribute to http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
My wiki account is SandroBonazzola

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Re: [CentOS-docs] access request

2014-08-04 Thread Jim Perrin


On 08/02/2014 09:49 AM, Mark Hahn wrote:
>>> I'd like write access to the wiki - at the moment just to
>>> clean up stale stuff like
>>> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/SshTips/SshKeyAuthentication

Please verify that you have access to this page now. Once you have that
one edited, we'll use it to validate additional write access to the wiki.



>>> but my expertise is HPC-related - PXE, NFS root, schedulers, compilers,
>>> scientific applications, etc.
>>>
>>> regards, Mark Hahn.
>>>
>>
>> What's your username in the wiki?
> 
> it's fournines ;)
> 
> sorry, apologies, uncalled-for.  it's the very clever MarkHahn.
> 
> thanks, mark.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] access request

2014-08-03 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 08/02/2014 10:49 AM, Mark Hahn wrote:
>>> I'd like write access to the wiki - at the moment just to
>>> clean up stale stuff like
>>> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/SshTips/SshKeyAuthentication
>>>
>>> but my expertise is HPC-related - PXE, NFS root, schedulers, compilers,
>>> scientific applications, etc.
>>>
>>> regards, Mark Hahn.
>>>
>>
>> What's your username in the wiki?
> 
> it's fournines ;)

Tsk. Not 9fivenines9 ? Why not aim high?

> sorry, apologies, uncalled-for.  it's the very clever MarkHahn.
> 
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Re: [CentOS-docs] access request

2014-08-02 Thread Mark Hahn
>> I'd like write access to the wiki - at the moment just to
>> clean up stale stuff like
>> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/SshTips/SshKeyAuthentication
>>
>> but my expertise is HPC-related - PXE, NFS root, schedulers, compilers,
>> scientific applications, etc.
>>
>> regards, Mark Hahn.
>>
>
> What's your username in the wiki?

it's fournines ;)

sorry, apologies, uncalled-for.  it's the very clever MarkHahn.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] access request

2014-08-02 Thread Jim Perrin


On 08/01/2014 12:15 PM, Mark Hahn wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'd like write access to the wiki - at the moment just to 
> clean up stale stuff like
> http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/SshTips/SshKeyAuthentication
> 
> but my expertise is HPC-related - PXE, NFS root, schedulers, compilers,
> scientific applications, etc.
> 
> regards, Mark Hahn.
> 

What's your username in the wiki?


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[CentOS-docs] access request

2014-08-01 Thread Mark Hahn
Hi all,
I'd like write access to the wiki - at the moment just to 
clean up stale stuff like
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/SshTips/SshKeyAuthentication

but my expertise is HPC-related - PXE, NFS root, schedulers, compilers,
scientific applications, etc.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request for the CentOS Wiki

2014-07-31 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On 31/07/14 12:09, Julien Pivotto wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> I would like to have access to the CentOS wiki, in particular the DoJo
> Section. I will speak at the CentOS DoJo in Paris and I would like to
> be able to edit the abstract of my talk on the
> http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Paris2014 page (there is a typo).
> 
> My username is JulienPivotto
> 
> Thank you.
> 

Hi Julien,

Can you verify it's working now ?

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[CentOS-docs] Access request for the CentOS Wiki

2014-07-31 Thread Julien Pivotto
Good morning,

I would like to have access to the CentOS wiki, in particular the DoJo
Section. I will speak at the CentOS DoJo in Paris and I would like to
be able to edit the abstract of my talk on the
http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Paris2014 page (there is a typo).

My username is JulienPivotto

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request for the CentOS Wiki

2014-01-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/05/2014 10:13 AM, Julien Pivotto wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> I would like to have access to the CentOS wiki, in particular the DoJo
> Section. I will speak at the CentOS DoJo in Brussels and I would like to
> be able to add my talk on the
> http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Brussels2014 page.

done

> 
> I also would like to setup and maintain my personal page on that wiki.
> 
> My username is JulienPivotto
> 

also done.


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[CentOS-docs] Access request for the CentOS Wiki

2014-01-05 Thread Julien Pivotto
Good morning,

I would like to have access to the CentOS wiki, in particular the DoJo
Section. I will speak at the CentOS DoJo in Brussels and I would like to
be able to add my talk on the
http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Brussels2014 page.

I also would like to setup and maintain my personal page on that wiki.

My username is JulienPivotto

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

2012-07-24 Thread Brian Mathis
Hi Ed,

I appreciate you considering my suggestions.  Comments below.


On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Ed Heron  wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 19:40 -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
>>
>> The use of "mv -v ...{,_}" is too clever for this kind of educational
>> document, and should be changed to spell out the full "mv" command.  I
>> get what you're doing there, but the purpose of the document is not to
>> teach clever uses of bash, it's to make it obvious to people that
>> you're renaming the file.  It will trip up the flow of reading for all
>> but the most knowledgeable users, and users who don't understand it
>> will be totally lost.
>
>   I'm not trying to be clever, I just don't like to type it twice if I
> can avoid it and the typing the higher the chance for a typo.  I don't
> have a problem having both forms.  I'll add it and see what you think.


Thanks for incorporating that.  However, I think having both forms is
even more confusing.  I really do like your bash shortcut, but it
simply doesn't belong in a document about apache.  Maybe there's
another page, like BashTipsAndTricks, that it would fit on better?
Any time you need to stop and say "hmm, what is going on there",
that's not related to the topic at hand, it only slows and confuses
the learning process.  You may think it's obvious, but that's quite
firmly in the "bash guru" category.


>> In most documents and scripts, I usually spell out the short form
>> options as well, such as using "--verbose".  Short forms save you
>> typing, but documentation should not trip people up if they don't know
>> what the option means.
>
>   Normally, I expect, if people don't understand a command, they will
> refer to the man page for the command.  However, to my constant
> disappointment, I understand that many people aren't looking for long
> term knowledge improvement, they are looking for a recipe to blindly
> follow.


The comment about long-form options was just an aside, and not my main
point, but thanks for taking a look at it.


>> Also, I find the use of "_" to be obtuse and highly error prone if one
>> were to actually run a server that way.  It's far more obvious to use
>> "disabled", which makes it very clear that those items are disabled.
>> It may work for you but only because that's a convention you came up
>> with so you're used to it, but we're not in dos 8.3 days with
>> filenames, so why not be more descriptive?
>
>   Having both forms should make it plain that people can use any
> convention they wish.  System administration is not a fixed target.
> Like many things, there are many ways to accomplish the same result.
> When approaching a system that someone else is administrating, we should
> try to maintain the existing conventions instead of forcing our own
> ideas onto a server for which we are not the primary responsible party.


A wiki page on the CentOS site conveys a certain level of authority.
With that authority, one should recommend a consistent and obvious way
to do things, since as you say, many people just want a recipe (and
there's nothing wrong with that).  Being verbose removes any ambiguity
about what is going on, and potentially sets a good practice for
people to follow.

Using the "_" relies too heavily on knowing that the httpd.conf file
uses a pattern match for "*.conf" only, and if I was not thoroughly
familiar with the httpd.conf file setup and logged into a server the
had some files with ".conf", and others with ".conf_", it could be
easy to miss.  A big fat label of "disabled" makes it quite clear
what's going on.

In a document like this, the proportion of typing you are saving is
insignificant.  If someone has an existing convention they use, they
won't need to read this document.  And, as you say, people are free to
set their own conventions, and you would be free to do the same in
your internal policies, but for an educational document, it's better
to spell things out.


>> In section 6.4, is there a reason not to make a "vhosts.conf" file
>> that contains the "Include" in the in the conf.d/ directory, instead
>> of appending to the httpd.conf, or do you run into ordering issues
>> there?  I try to avoid changing the distro files if possible.
>
>   Sections 6 and 7 are optional.  There are certainly arguments against
> customization.  In the past, upgrades might have replaced all files
> including configuration files.  In that case, creating a vhosts.conf
> file in the conf.d directory to separate the directive would have been a
> must.  However, the Linux distributions I have used for the past decade
> or so have avoided replacing existing configuration files, expecting
> they might be customized.
>
>   That said, I like the suggestion.  It would allow for the virtual host
> files to be packaged into an RPM file that could be installed on
> multiple web hosts.
>
>> ❧ Brian Mathis


I think the only potential problem with this would have been if the
vhosts were somehow order-specific as they relate to the res

Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

2012-07-20 Thread Ed Heron
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 13:07 -0600, Ed Heron wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 19:40 -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
> >  
> > The use of "mv -v ...{,_}" is too clever for this kind of educational
> > document, and should be changed to spell out the full "mv" command.  I
> > get what you're doing there, but the purpose of the document is not to
> > teach clever uses of bash, it's to make it obvious to people that
> > you're renaming the file.  It will trip up the flow of reading for all
> > but the most knowledgeable users, and users who don't understand it
> > will be totally lost.
> 
>   I'm not trying to be clever, I just don't like to type it twice if I
> can avoid it and the typing the higher the chance for a typo.  I don't
> have a problem having both forms.  I'll add it and see what you think.
> 
> > In most documents and scripts, I usually spell out the short form
> > options as well, such as using "--verbose".  Short forms save you
> > typing, but documentation should not trip people up if they don't know
> > what the option means.
> 
>   Normally, I expect, if people don't understand a command, they will
> refer to the man page for the command.  However, to my constant
> disappointment, I understand that many people aren't looking for long
> term knowledge improvement, they are looking for a recipe to blindly
> follow.
> 
> > Also, I find the use of "_" to be obtuse and highly error prone if one
> > were to actually run a server that way.  It's far more obvious to use
> > "disabled", which makes it very clear that those items are disabled.
> > It may work for you but only because that's a convention you came up
> > with so you're used to it, but we're not in dos 8.3 days with
> > filenames, so why not be more descriptive?
> 
>   Having both forms should make it plain that people can use any
> convention they wish.  System administration is not a fixed target.
> Like many things, there are many ways to accomplish the same result.
> When approaching a system that someone else is administrating, we should
> try to maintain the existing conventions instead of forcing our own
> ideas onto a server for which we are not the primary responsible party.
> 
> > In section 6.4, is there a reason not to make a "vhosts.conf" file
> > that contains the "Include" in the in the conf.d/ directory, instead
> > of appending to the httpd.conf, or do you run into ordering issues
> > there?  I try to avoid changing the distro files if possible.
> 
>   Sections 6 and 7 are optional.  There are certainly arguments against
> customization.  In the past, upgrades might have replaced all files
> including configuration files.  In that case, creating a vhosts.conf
> file in the conf.d directory to separate the directive would have been a
> must.  However, the Linux distributions I have used for the past decade
> or so have avoided replacing existing configuration files, expecting
> they might be customized.
> 
>   That said, I like the suggestion.  It would allow for the virtual host
> files to be packaged into an RPM file that could be installed on
> multiple web hosts.
> 
> > 
> > ❧ Brian Mathis

  I made the changes I've described about a week ago.  Brian, does that
satisfy your concerns?  Does anybody else agree with Brian?  Have the
changes I've made make it easier to read the document?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

2012-07-12 Thread Ed Heron
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 19:40 -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
>  
> The use of "mv -v ...{,_}" is too clever for this kind of educational
> document, and should be changed to spell out the full "mv" command.  I
> get what you're doing there, but the purpose of the document is not to
> teach clever uses of bash, it's to make it obvious to people that
> you're renaming the file.  It will trip up the flow of reading for all
> but the most knowledgeable users, and users who don't understand it
> will be totally lost.

  I'm not trying to be clever, I just don't like to type it twice if I
can avoid it and the typing the higher the chance for a typo.  I don't
have a problem having both forms.  I'll add it and see what you think.

> In most documents and scripts, I usually spell out the short form
> options as well, such as using "--verbose".  Short forms save you
> typing, but documentation should not trip people up if they don't know
> what the option means.

  Normally, I expect, if people don't understand a command, they will
refer to the man page for the command.  However, to my constant
disappointment, I understand that many people aren't looking for long
term knowledge improvement, they are looking for a recipe to blindly
follow.

> Also, I find the use of "_" to be obtuse and highly error prone if one
> were to actually run a server that way.  It's far more obvious to use
> "disabled", which makes it very clear that those items are disabled.
> It may work for you but only because that's a convention you came up
> with so you're used to it, but we're not in dos 8.3 days with
> filenames, so why not be more descriptive?

  Having both forms should make it plain that people can use any
convention they wish.  System administration is not a fixed target.
Like many things, there are many ways to accomplish the same result.
When approaching a system that someone else is administrating, we should
try to maintain the existing conventions instead of forcing our own
ideas onto a server for which we are not the primary responsible party.

> In section 6.4, is there a reason not to make a "vhosts.conf" file
> that contains the "Include" in the in the conf.d/ directory, instead
> of appending to the httpd.conf, or do you run into ordering issues
> there?  I try to avoid changing the distro files if possible.

  Sections 6 and 7 are optional.  There are certainly arguments against
customization.  In the past, upgrades might have replaced all files
including configuration files.  In that case, creating a vhosts.conf
file in the conf.d directory to separate the directive would have been a
must.  However, the Linux distributions I have used for the past decade
or so have avoided replacing existing configuration files, expecting
they might be customized.

  That said, I like the suggestion.  It would allow for the virtual host
files to be packaged into an RPM file that could be installed on
multiple web hosts.

> 
> ❧ Brian Mathis


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

2012-07-11 Thread Brian Mathis
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Ed Heron  wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 10:42 -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
>> Requesting access to edit page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir
>>
>> Looking to make some small edits for clarity.
>>
>> ❧ Brian Mathis
>
>   Yay, somebody read it!
>
>   What are you suggesting?


The use of "mv -v ...{,_}" is too clever for this kind of educational
document, and should be changed to spell out the full "mv" command.  I
get what you're doing there, but the purpose of the document is not to
teach clever uses of bash, it's to make it obvious to people that
you're renaming the file.  It will trip up the flow of reading for all
but the most knowledgeable users, and users who don't understand it
will be totally lost.

In most documents and scripts, I usually spell out the short form
options as well, such as using "--verbose".  Short forms save you
typing, but documentation should not trip people up if they don't know
what the option means.

Also, I find the use of "_" to be obtuse and highly error prone if one
were to actually run a server that way.  It's far more obvious to use
"disabled", which makes it very clear that those items are disabled.
It may work for you but only because that's a convention you came up
with so you're used to it, but we're not in dos 8.3 days with
filenames, so why not be more descriptive?

In section 6.4, is there a reason not to make a "vhosts.conf" file
that contains the "Include" in the in the conf.d/ directory, instead
of appending to the httpd.conf, or do you run into ordering issues
there?  I try to avoid changing the distro files if possible.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

2012-07-11 Thread Ed Heron
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 10:42 -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
> Requesting access to edit page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir
> 
> Looking to make some small edits for clarity.
> 
> ❧ Brian Mathis

  Yay, somebody read it!

  What are you suggesting?


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[CentOS-docs] Access request to page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

2012-07-11 Thread Brian Mathis
Requesting access to edit page TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir

Looking to make some small edits for clarity.

❧ Brian Mathis
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