Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 07.10.10 23:55, schrieb Phil Schaffner:
 Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 05:25 PM:
   BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay.  i simply don't have edit
 rights.
 
 Perhaps Ralph will now be willing to remedy that.

For which pages exactly (at first)? Sorry, was away for a week, but I
see the rest of the discussion has already happened. :)

Regards,

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-08 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 8 October 2010 12:49, Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote:
 Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 06:17 PM:
 ...
   which is actually fine with me.  really.  i'm good with just posting
 suggestions and fixes for the time being.

 That's why I suggested you request edit rights for one or more of the
 pages you have suggested be substantially changed.  The usual route to
 global rights is to do some good work on specific targets, usually with
 a new page, or pages, and to become known to the -docs list members.
 For new pages it is usually (IMHO) a good idea to put a draft out for
 review by the list, even for established members with global edit rights.

My suggestion for Rob is a page that really needs a maintainer and
significant editorial work, due to age induced rotting -- HowTo
Install Java on CentOS 4 and CentOS 5 [1].

It is a page (as a whole) that regularly receives a black look from
me whenever it comes into my view and is, I know, a page that Russ
regards as an example of poor wiki practice.

Alan.

[1] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS
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[CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  here:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH

the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is
given as:

Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the
authorized_keys list:

$ cat id_rsa.pub  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

  i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of
using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone.

rday

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Ned Slider
On 07/10/10 12:29, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH

 the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is
 given as:

 Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the
 authorized_keys list:

 $ cat id_rsa.pub  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of
 using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone.

 rday


Thanks for volunteering :-)

Please submit your proposed changes to this list and we can make it happen.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Ned Slider wrote:

 On 07/10/10 12:29, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
 here:
 
  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH
 
  the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is
  given as:
 
  Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the
  authorized_keys list:
 
  $ cat id_rsa.pub  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
 
 i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of
  using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone.
 
  rday
 

 Thanks for volunteering :-)

 Please submit your proposed changes to this list and we can make it
 happen.

   ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply post
proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text should
be replaced by newer text?

rday

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Dag Wieers
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH

 the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is
 given as:

 Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the
 authorized_keys list:

 $ cat id_rsa.pub  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys

  i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of
 using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone.

Remember that this was likely written for CentOS 4, which did not have 
that tool as part of openssh. So we might want to provide an option for 
both cases ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Dag Wieers wrote:

 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   here:
 
  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH
 
  the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is
  given as:
 
  Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the
  authorized_keys list:
 
  $ cat id_rsa.pub  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
 
   i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of
  using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone.

 Remember that this was likely written for CentOS 4, which did not
 have that tool as part of openssh. So we might want to provide an
 option for both cases ?

  ah, good point.  i suspect the most effective rewrite would be 3
parts:

  * a general description of what is being done, files involved,
what's copied, proper file/dir permissions for it to work
properly, etc.
  * the manual way it's done on centos 4
  * the newer, simpler centos 5 way involving ssh-copy-id

and that would do it.

rday

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Phil Schaffner
Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 07:51 AM:
...
ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply post
 proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text should
 be replaced by newer text?

Perhaps it is time to remedy that situation.  Have you created a 
WikiName (RobertDay might be a good choice) and requested edit rights to 
a page or pages?

Phil
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Phil Schaffner wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 07:51 AM:
 ...
 ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply
  post proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text
  should be replaced by newer text?

 Perhaps it is time to remedy that situation.  Have you created a
 WikiName (RobertDay might be a good choice) and requested edit
 rights to a page or pages?

  i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them.
so i'm just posting suggestions.

rday

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Phil Schaffner wrote:

 Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 07:51 AM:
 ...
 ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply post
  proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text should
  be replaced by newer text?

 Perhaps it is time to remedy that situation.  Have you created a
 WikiName (RobertDay might be a good choice) and requested edit
 rights to a page or pages?

  BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay.  i simply don't have edit
rights.

rday

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Robert P. J. Day   Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter:   http://twitter.com/rpjday
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[CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them.
 so i'm just posting suggestions.

ehh?  Where?  Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be 
missing something

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html

-- Russ herrold
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Phil Schaffner
Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 05:25 PM:
   BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay.  i simply don't have edit
 rights.

Perhaps Ralph will now be willing to remedy that.

Phil
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them.
 so i'm just posting suggestions.

 ehh?  Where?  Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be
 missing something

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html

I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come
across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some
recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki
edit rights and a response telling them that it wasn't going to
happen.

Like Russ, I also have checked (somewhat quickly) and found nothing
obvious in the archive.

Do you recall who it was who declined the request?

Essentially, no person gets immediate global edit rights. It starts
with a page or section and certain people will then keep a watch on
what is done. :-)

Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, R P Herrold wrote:

 heh -- as Robert P. J. Day is [and was, and for a long time has been
 at least reputationally ;) ] known to me for a long time, we've
 spoken, etc I am quite sure I would have remembered a flat turndown
 if I had seen it

 But the issue is: global edit rights for a relative newcomer
 (publicly) to CentOS who has not previously sought to be part
 of this culture

 and global edit rights is not going to happen 'out of the
 gate' for reasons copiously talked about, blogged about, etc

  which is actually fine with me.  really.  i'm good with just posting
suggestions and fixes for the time being.

rday

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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alan Bartlett a...@elrepo.org wrote:
 On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them.
 so i'm just posting suggestions.

 ehh?  Where?  Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be
 missing something

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html

 I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come
 across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some
 recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki
 edit rights and a response telling them that it wasn't going to
 happen.

Perhaps you remember this post on the main ML?

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2010-September/099474.html

And Rob was given a proper answer for which he thanked. :)

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 7 October 2010 23:17, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alan Bartlett a...@elrepo.org wrote:
 On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them.
 so i'm just posting suggestions.

 ehh?  Where?  Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be
 missing something

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html

 I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come
 across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some
 recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki
 edit rights and a response telling them that it wasn't going to
 happen.

 Perhaps you remember this post on the main ML?

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2010-September/099474.html

 And Rob was given a proper answer for which he thanked. :)

Ah, the main (a.k.a general) m/l which (for reasons not relevant to
this list) I do not regularly monitor.

Akemi's extensive dbase prevails, once again. :-)

Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys

2010-10-07 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 7 October 2010 23:04, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Alan Bartlett wrote:
 On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:

 ehh?  Where?  Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be
 missing something

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html

 I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come
 across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some
 recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki

 heh -- as Robert P. J. Day is [and was, and for a long time
 has been at least reputationally ;) ] known to me for a long
 time, we've spoken, etc I am quite sure I would have
 remembered a flat turndown if I had seen it

I knew you'd enjoy my parenthesised relatively unknown, Russ. :-)

Alan.
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