Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

2017-07-11 Thread Markus McLaughlin
Ok, thanks.


On Jul 11, 2017 11:38 AM, "Trevor Hemsley" 
wrote:

> On 11/07/17 16:29, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> > Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?
> >
> > If there is a subject that belongs on another list, please direct me
> > to that...
>
> Since "CentOS EDU" is a proposed SIG that has not started yet,
> discussion belongs on centos-devel not on -docs.
>
> Trevor
>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

2017-07-11 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On 11/07/17 17:29, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?
> 
> If there is a subject that belongs on another list, please direct me to
> that...
> 
> Markus McLaughlin
> 

Hi,

As several people mentioned it already, such kind of discussion for a
SIG (that hasn't been approved yet - still in proposal status - ) would
better fit on the centos-devel list, as centos-docs if for the wiki
itself, or other docs.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

2017-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:29:24AM -0400, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?
> 
Short answer: What changes might be coming.  I suspect that RHEL8 will
default to dnf, rather than yum. There haven't been too many major changes
for the sysadmin, there are various things happening, don't know when they
started, for the desktop user with Gnome changes, Wayland, and the like.
 
The usual pattern is that something is developed for Fedora, which seems to
be aimed at the single user laptop owner who has no experience in 
handling data for other people. 

Then, RedHat blindly puts it in the next RedHat release.  Experienced
adminstrators complain. This is usually ignored. 

People post on various lists and forums that they're moving to FreeBSD.
Reminiscent of some celebrities who said they would move to Canada if Trump
became president, they find that it's easier to adjust than actually make
the move. 

That's my somewhat jaundiced view on it.  To elaborate, and cherry pick
items that suit my bias, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias, I
believe it was Fedora who first decided to severely limit the options in
the curses based version of anaconda, which then went into RHEL6, causing a
lot of curses. .  That's a simple, unresearched, and quite
possibly wrong example, but I suspect many of us use Fedora so as to not
get caught by surprise when things like that happen (the curses based
install suddenly losing lots of options.)


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

2017-07-11 Thread Trevor Hemsley
On 11/07/17 16:29, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?
>
> If there is a subject that belongs on another list, please direct me
> to that... 

Since "CentOS EDU" is a proposed SIG that has not started yet,
discussion belongs on centos-devel not on -docs.

Trevor
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

2017-07-11 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings,

- Original Message -
> Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?

What pray tell, is "CentOS EDU"?  I did a web search for it and didn't find it.

So far as what someone might be able to learn from Fedora 26... it isn't a RHEL 
release so probably nothing.

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