Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
On 04/14/2011 03:10 AM, Hardy Beltran Monasterios wrote:
Hello
A couple of days ago, I did the Spanish translation for ReleaseNotes
CentOS 5.6
and I have some questions
Right now, in the Spanish version we are using nice icons for "Notes".
Would you like the same in the English and other translated versions ?
(I know that is not important, just looks nice ;-) )
As long as we are consistent in the wiki and we do not make it look as
colored as a parrot, I like this idea.
On many places we mention packages names or file names. I suggest
use {{{typewriter}} style for this, to better reading/understand.
My wiki-foo is weak. Can you provide more details please, so that I do
not go hunting for documentation ?
Some time ago, we talk about some common parts in all the translated
versions.
And we started to use marks "#begin- #end-...". Right now, we
don't have
this marks for the "Translations" subtitle in the original version. We
should use
I think.
You cannot do that because the "translations" section must include [*]
the language names expressed in the language of the translation. For
instance in the Romanian release notes I would use
* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Spaniola] (Español) -
[:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran]
while in the Spanish version you should use
* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Rumano] (Romana) -
[:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran]
[*] Unless we decide to not do that
By the way, I need help to use ' macro', all my tries were
unsuccessful
Get inspiration from the Romanian and French translations. I am lazy so
in step 1 I bookmarked the lists of packages for the English version and
in step 2 I included the lists as such ( using bookmarks ) in those two
translations. You can simply copy/paste the relevant lines.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
Dne 14.4.2011 2:31, Manuel Wolfshant napsal(a): > You cannot do that because the "translations" section must include > [*] the language names expressed in the language of the translation. > For instance in the Romanian release notes I would use > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Spaniola] (Español) - > [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] > while in the Spanish version you should use > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Rumano] (Romana) - > [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] Well, Actually, I would also like to have translations section included. There's no need to have languages localised. I could happily live with: * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/BrazilianPortuguese:Português do Brasil] - [:CleberSouza:Cleber Paiva de Souza] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Chinese:简体中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy Lee] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/ChineseTW:繁體中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy Lee] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Czech:Česky] - [:DavidHrbac:David Hrbáč] ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/German:Deutsch] - [:MarcusMoeller:Marcus Moeller] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Japanese:日本語] - [:TadashiJokagi:Tadashi Jokagi], [:AkemiYagi:Akemi Yagi] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/French:Français] - [:FabianArrotin:Fabian Arrotin] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Romana] - [:ManuelWolfshant:Manuel Wolfshant] ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Russian:Русский] - [:NikolayUlyanitsky:Nikolay Ulyanitsky] * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Español] - [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Turkish:Türkçe] - Osman Aksit It would help a lot to maintain the translations homogeneous. Native speaker looking for RN in his/her native language can read and find the proper localised language link. DH ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
Dear all, On 04/14/2011 02:11 PM, David Hrbáč wrote: > Dne 14.4.2011 2:31, Manuel Wolfshant napsal(a): >> You cannot do that because the "translations" section must include >> [*] the language names expressed in the language of the translation. >> For instance in the Romanian release notes I would use >> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Spaniola] (Español) - >> [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] >> while in the Spanish version you should use >> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Rumano] (Romana) - >> [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] > Well, > Actually, I would also like to have translations section included. > There's no need to have languages localised. I could happily live with: > > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/BrazilianPortuguese:Português do Brasil] > - [:CleberSouza:Cleber Paiva de Souza] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Chinese:简体中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy Lee] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/ChineseTW:繁體中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy > Lee] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Czech:Česky] - [:DavidHrbac:David Hrbáč] > ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/German:Deutsch] - > [:MarcusMoeller:Marcus Moeller] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Japanese:日本語] - [:TadashiJokagi:Tadashi > Jokagi], [:AkemiYagi:Akemi Yagi] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/French:Français] - > [:FabianArrotin:Fabian Arrotin] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Romana] - > [:ManuelWolfshant:Manuel Wolfshant] > ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Russian:Русский] - > [:NikolayUlyanitsky:Nikolay Ulyanitsky] > * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Español] - [:HardyBeltran:Hardy > Beltran] > ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Turkish:Türkçe] - Osman Aksit > > It would help a lot to maintain the translations homogeneous. Native > speaker looking for RN in his/her native language can read and find the > proper localised language link. > DH I agree with using #include directives to keep the list of translations synchronized on all pages. As the Chinese translation maintainer, I find it tedious having to update the Chinese page every time a new translation becomes available. Regards, Timothy Lee ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
On 04/14/2011 12:24 PM, Timothy Lee wrote: > Dear all, >> Actually, I would also like to have translations section included. >> There's no need to have languages localised. I could happily live with: >> >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/BrazilianPortuguese:Português do >> Brasil] - [:CleberSouza:Cleber Paiva de Souza] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Chinese:简体中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy >> Lee] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/ChineseTW:繁體中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy >> Lee] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Czech:Česky] - [:DavidHrbac:David >> Hrbáč] >> ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/German:Deutsch] - >> [:MarcusMoeller:Marcus Moeller] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Japanese:日本語] - >> [:TadashiJokagi:Tadashi Jokagi], [:AkemiYagi:Akemi Yagi] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/French:Français] - >> [:FabianArrotin:Fabian Arrotin] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Romana] - >> [:ManuelWolfshant:Manuel Wolfshant] >> ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Russian:Русский] - >> [:NikolayUlyanitsky:Nikolay Ulyanitsky] >>* [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Español] - >> [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] >> ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Turkish:Türkçe] - Osman Aksit >> >> It would help a lot to maintain the translations homogeneous. Native >> speaker looking for RN in his/her native language can read and find the >> proper localised language link. >> DH > I agree with using #include directives to keep the list of translations > synchronized on all pages. As the Chinese translation maintainer, I > find it tedious having to update the Chinese page every time a new > translation becomes available. then let's do it. any objections on the approach suggested by David ? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
Dear all, On 04/14/2011 05:28 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > On 04/14/2011 12:24 PM, Timothy Lee wrote: >> Dear all, >>> Actually, I would also like to have translations section included. >>> There's no need to have languages localised. I could happily live with: >>> >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/BrazilianPortuguese:Português do >>> Brasil] - [:CleberSouza:Cleber Paiva de Souza] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Chinese:简体中文] - [:TimothyLee:Timothy >>> Lee] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/ChineseTW:繁體中文] - >>> [:TimothyLee:Timothy Lee] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Czech:Česky] - [:DavidHrbac:David >>> Hrbáč] >>> ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/German:Deutsch] - >>> [:MarcusMoeller:Marcus Moeller] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Japanese:日本語] - >>> [:TadashiJokagi:Tadashi Jokagi], [:AkemiYagi:Akemi Yagi] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/French:Français] - >>> [:FabianArrotin:Fabian Arrotin] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Romanian:Romana] - >>> [:ManuelWolfshant:Manuel Wolfshant] >>> ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Russian:Русский] - >>> [:NikolayUlyanitsky:Nikolay Ulyanitsky] >>> * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Spanish:Español] - >>> [:HardyBeltran:Hardy Beltran] >>> ### * [:Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6/Turkish:Türkçe] - Osman Aksit >>> >>> It would help a lot to maintain the translations homogeneous. Native >>> speaker looking for RN in his/her native language can read and find the >>> proper localised language link. >>> DH >> I agree with using #include directives to keep the list of translations >> synchronized on all pages. As the Chinese translation maintainer, I >> find it tedious having to update the Chinese page every time a new >> translation becomes available. > then let's do it. any objections on the approach suggested by David ? No objections. But please add a link for the English translation (yes, even inside the English page), so that a person on the translated page can access the English version if necessary. Regards, Timothy Lee ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
Dne 14.4.2011 11:28, Manuel Wolfshant napsal(a): > then let's do it. any objections on the approach suggested by David ? Agree with Tim, English must be also included. The list also must be resorted by language. DH ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
Dne 14.4.2011 11:31, Timothy Lee napsal(a): > No objections. But please add a link for the English translation (yes, > even inside the English page), so that a person on the translated page > can access the English version if necessary. > > Regards, > Timothy Lee I have just updated the translation list. It's sorted by ISO country code, contains only localised language names. I wish we could do the same with the ISOs sums. DH ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
El 15/04/11 04:44, David Hrbáč escribió: > Dne 14.4.2011 11:31, Timothy Lee napsal(a): >> No objections. But please add a link for the English translation (yes, >> even inside the English page), so that a person on the translated page >> can access the English version if necessary. >> >> Regards, >> Timothy Lee > I have just updated the translation list. It's sorted by ISO country > code, contains only localised language names. Fine. Now, how we use the marks "#begin/#end-translation" ? > I wish we could do the > same with the ISOs sums. > DH +1 Thanks ! -- Hardy Beltran Monasterios ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Some questions: Release Notes CentOS 5.6
On 04/16/2011 03:10 AM, Hardy Beltran Monasterios wrote: > El 15/04/11 04:44, David Hrbáč escribió: >> Dne 14.4.2011 11:31, Timothy Lee napsal(a): >>> No objections. But please add a link for the English translation (yes, >>> even inside the English page), so that a person on the translated page >>> can access the English version if necessary. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Timothy Lee >> I have just updated the translation list. It's sorted by ISO country >> code, contains only localised language names. > Fine. Now, how we use the marks "#begin/#end-translation" ? [[Include(Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.5,,from="##begin-translation",to="##end-translation")]] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
