Re: [CentOS-docs] amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav

2008-04-29 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ned Slider wrote:
 I've finished the main parts that I intended to cover now, just the 
 introduction to write plus a bit more on testing at the end, and apply a 
 bit of spit and polish:

 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix_amavisd

Okay, I changed two small bits about spamassassin (on a mail scanning
gateway you really want to use rpmforge's spamassassin, as that is more
current). The rest looks okay.

What should be stressed (maybe I can get that in later today) is that
you shouldn't bounce mails back if you think that they are spam. There
are a few configuration variables in amavisd to control that.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav

2008-04-29 Thread Karanbir Singh

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix_amavisd




This is actually more of an email to Ned, but replying to Ralph's email 
to keep the conversation flow..


point I wanted to make is that by calling it 'postfix_amavisd' you have 
closed the door for there really being much effort on adding an exim or 
a sendmail section to that. So please take that postfix bit out from the 
title and the url, I am sure amavisd can be setup to work with other 
MTA's as well.


You can still leave a postfix section in the TOC, just move all postfix 
specific bits into there, and ask for contributors to add exim / 
sendmail details into their respective sections.


Just me thinking out loud.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav

2008-04-29 Thread Ned Slider

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Ned Slider wrote:
I've finished the main parts that I intended to cover now, just the 
introduction to write plus a bit more on testing at the end, and apply a 
bit of spit and polish:


http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix_amavisd


Okay, I changed two small bits about spamassassin (on a mail scanning
gateway you really want to use rpmforge's spamassassin, as that is more
current). The rest looks okay.



Thanks Ralph. I haven't been able to get any sort of a real world feel 
for spamassassin on my mail server as my postfix restrictions (DNSBLs) 
and greylisting takes out all spam before it ever reaches spamassassin. 
I have access to an unused spammy domain for testing (~600-700 spam per 
day) that's currently parked as a spamtrap for uceprotect. I used this 
for about a month to test the rules in the postfix restrictions Wiki guide.



What should be stressed (maybe I can get that in later today) is that
you shouldn't bounce mails back if you think that they are spam. There
are a few configuration variables in amavisd to control that.



I agree, if they *are* spam, sender addresses are almost certainly 
forged and it only generates backscatter. Presumably that behaviour is 
controlled with the following settings:


# $final_virus_destiny  = D_DISCARD;
# $final_banned_destiny = D_BOUNCE;  #change to D_DISCARD
# $final_spam_destiny   = D_BOUNCE;  #change to D_DISCARD
# $final_bad_header_destiny = D_PASS;
# $bad_header_quarantine_method = undef;

and is triggered by $sa_kill_level_deflt, ...and this doesn't affect 
quarantine behaviour?


I'm also wondering about $sa_dsn_cutoff_level - so would one want to set 
this to equal $sa_kill_level_deflt on the same basis, otherwise you're 
no longer bouncing the message, but *are* still sending a DSN??




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Re: [CentOS-docs] amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav

2008-04-28 Thread Ned Slider

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Ned Slider wrote:
I hope to make a start on a Wiki page in the next week or so, so if anyone 
has any experience with this combo and would like to offer advice, tips and 
proof-reading once I get going, that would be more than welcome.


I'd be happy to proof-read it, as we/I have been using that combo for
several years now. Or if you have any questions - go ahead and ask.

Thank you for the work you have put into documentation over the last few
weeks/months!

Cheers,

Ralph



Thanks Ralph :)

I've finished the main parts that I intended to cover now, just the 
introduction to write plus a bit more on testing at the end, and apply a 
bit of spit and polish:


http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix_amavisd

Perhaps you (and others) could take a look and give me your impressions. 
  Amavisd-new is all a bit new to me and I'm still feeling my way 
around my system so your experience with it will be invaluable.




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