Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-08-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

On 07/22/2014 08:45 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
> CentOS-6.5
> VirtualBox-4.3.14
> 
> Is it possible, and if so advisable, to run KVM and VirtualBox guests on the
> same host system?

I don't know if you'd do it on a server, but I have run Genymotion, a
VirtualBox based Android emulator, on my desktop which was
simultaneously running a couple of KVM VMs as an oVirt node. It's not a
huge spec machine, performance was awful, but I don't know how much of
that was because of resource competition and how much was because I was
swapping.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-24 Thread Elliot Speck
> you'll probably have to pull the VirtualBox guest addons out... and install 
> the KVM guest stuff

If you're taking that route, I recommend looking in to libguestfs to mount the 
image like you would a disk.

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--- Original Message ---

From: "Scott Dowdle" 
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To: byrn...@harte-lyne.ca, "Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS" 

Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

Greetings,

- Original Message -
> A supplemental question:  Is there any way to convert a VB guest image into a
> KVM guest image?

I believe qemu-image can convert between a few different virtualization disk 
image formats.  Of course that just changes the disk image itself... and not 
the drivers inside... so if you do convert it (I'd recommend working on a 
copy)... then you'll probably have to pull the VirtualBox guest addons out... 
and install the KVM guest stuff... but it shouldn't be that difficult.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-24 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings,

- Original Message -
> A supplemental question:  Is there any way to convert a VB guest image into a
> KVM guest image?

I believe qemu-image can convert between a few different virtualization disk 
image formats.  Of course that just changes the disk image itself... and not 
the drivers inside... so if you do convert it (I'd recommend working on a 
copy)... then you'll probably have to pull the VirtualBox guest addons out... 
and install the KVM guest stuff... but it shouldn't be that difficult.

TYL,
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-24 Thread James B. Byrne

On Wed, July 23, 2014 10:11, Tom Bishop wrote:

> That is the easy answer, they do conflict but it does not mean you
> cannot load them both up. You just cannot run them both at the same
> time, in order to run one vs the other you need to remove some kernal
> mods and insert some etc depending on which one you want to run.
>
> So the answer is yes you can if you want to you just have to do some
> work, here is a decent write up that goes into some detail but there
> may be some better examples -
> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kvm-virtualbox.html
>

Thanks,

I found a write up on scripts that detect and unload/load the kvm and
kvm-intel modules.  In fact, the very one that you referenced.  And I had
already gathered that one probably cannot run both a kvm and a vb hypervisor
on the same host at the same time.  I was wondering if there was any other
issues respecting having both of them installed on the same host at the same
time even if only one, or neither, is running?

A supplemental question:  Is there any way to convert a VB guest image into a
KVM guest image?  The VM image in question is MicroSoft's IE6 development
image for MS-XPproSP3.  We have a government mandated program that is written
in J# and the last OS to support that is XP.  I have to get some sort of
virtualised XP guest running and as the transferable licenses for that OS are
somewhat scarce I thought I might try and get the legal VM version running. 
However, I would prefer to stick with KVM if at all possible.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-23 Thread Tom Bishop
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia  wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:45 AM, James B. Byrne  
>> wrote:
>>> CentOS-6.5
>>> VirtualBox-4.3.14
>>>
>>> Is it possible, and if so advisable, to run KVM and VirtualBox guests on the
>>> same host system?
>>
>> Never tried it. It sounds like a  really, really bad idea.
>
> +1 the KVM and VBox modules would conflict.
>
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That is the easy answer, they do conflict but it does not mean you
cannot load them both up. You just cannot run them both at the same
time, in order to run one vs the other you need to remove some kernal
mods and insert some etc depending on which one you want to run.

So the answer is yes you can if you want to you just have to do some
work, here is a decent write up that goes into some detail but there
may be some better examples -
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kvm-virtualbox.html

my .02 YMMV blah blah blah :)
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-22 Thread Arun Khan
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:45 AM, James B. Byrne  wrote:
>> CentOS-6.5
>> VirtualBox-4.3.14
>>
>> Is it possible, and if so advisable, to run KVM and VirtualBox guests on the
>> same host system?
>
> Never tried it. It sounds like a  really, really bad idea.

+1 the KVM and VBox modules would conflict.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:45 AM, James B. Byrne  wrote:
> CentOS-6.5
> VirtualBox-4.3.14
>
> Is it possible, and if so advisable, to run KVM and VirtualBox guests on the
> same host system?

Never tried it. It sounds like a  really, really bad idea.
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[CentOS-virt] Can KVM and VirtualBox co-exist on same host?

2014-07-22 Thread James B. Byrne
CentOS-6.5
VirtualBox-4.3.14

Is it possible, and if so advisable, to run KVM and VirtualBox guests on the
same host system?


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