Re: [CentOS-virt] open-vm-tools for latest CentOS-4 and CentOS-5 kernel-vms
John Thomas wrote: Johnny Hughes said the following on 12/31/2007 11:37 AM: snip The open-vm-tools are available here: http://people.centos.org/~hughesjr/open-vm-tools/ The purpose of these RPMS (open-vm-tools) is to replace the VMware-Tools RPMS that come with VMWare. Please remove VMWare-Tools inside the VM if you are going to install these open-vm-tools for testing. Thank you for these. May I ask the costs and benefits? Following are my guesses and hopes: My Guesses: Benefits: Easier to install, just toss into repo and yum install NAME Costs: None My Hopes: Benefits: Easier to install, will be in CentOS repo with vm kernels This will be the case, yes. Though that is not the case now. No need to run vmware-config-tools.pl after kernel upgrade This is indeed a huge benefit, as it requires one less reboot and does not require you to do anything via your console or to rebuild anything as a user. You also do not need build tools inside your client VM now. Time syncing is somehow better It is not really better ... but it is the same. I have found that if your client is running fast, you need to adjust the vmware.conf file like this article says: http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1591 And that these tools will keep it from being slow. Johnny will personally help you with all your computer problems (just kidding) For the right price :-D Other added benefits are that the vmhgfs works without recompiling by the user. Costs: None I do not see any negative issues. I do still need to come up with something to copy the xorg.conf file into place while maintaining a backup, and also the same for a gpm config file. But I think this will be a major improvement for VMWare users as are the kernel-vm kernels. Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] open-vm-tools for latest CentOS-4 and CentOS-5 kernel-vms
Ray Van Dolson wrote: No need to run vmware-config-tools.pl after kernel upgrade This is indeed a huge benefit, as it requires one less reboot and does not require you to do anything via your console or to rebuild anything as a user. You also do not need build tools inside your client VM now. This is indeed, very cool. I would like to point out that VMware is working very hard to get these tools incorporated into Linux distros right now. Whether or not we should do this or promote Xen instead is a different argument for a different time. Many people use VMWare right now, and these tools will work in all the version, not just the free server (though that is where we develop and test them). But I think this will be a major improvement for VMWare users as are the kernel-vm kernels. Couple questions regarding these kernels... should they be run on the host or on the guest? And I see they are in -testing right now, and also in tru's home directory. Where is the authoritative source for them and will they end up in centosplus at some point? We (Tru Huynh actually, with help from Akemi Yagi and Fabian Arrotin) created them. There is no Authoritative source (except us :D), the SRPMS are available from the current locations now. They are the EL kernel with the clock freq set to 100HZ instead of 1000HZ ... which is pretty much required to get any kind of performance inside of VMware VMs. They will end up somewhere ... either in a virt repo or extras (as they are named kernel-vm and not kernel, they are not replacing the kernel as such). They are designed to run inside VMs, though will run on the host as well currently. All they do is adjust the freq of the clock to 100HZ. They are not recommended for the host, however. It is possible that we will work with the VMWare people to add other tweaks to these kernels for performance gains ... if there are specific things called out by them to increase / enhance usability or performance inside VMware VMs. Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] open-vm-tools for latest CentOS-4 and CentOS-5 kernel-vms
On Jan 1, 2008 7:53 AM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray Van Dolson wrote: Couple questions regarding these kernels... should they be run on the host or on the guest? And I see they are in -testing right now, and also in tru's home directory. Where is the authoritative source for them and will they end up in centosplus at some point? We (Tru Huynh actually, with help from Akemi Yagi and Fabian Arrotin) created them. There is no Authoritative source (except us :D), the SRPMS are available from the current locations now. They are the EL kernel with the clock freq set to 100HZ instead of 1000HZ ... which is pretty much required to get any kind of performance inside of VMware VMs. And if you are interested in how the -vm kernel was born and what the current status of development is, take a look at: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2189 I would also like to encourage people to join in the effort and contribute to that bug tracker with new findings, test results, etc. Akemi ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
