[ceph-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-11-18 Thread Christian Wuerdig
I think Marc uses containers - but they've chosen Apache Mesos as
orchestrator and ceph-adm doesn't work with that.
Currently essentially two ceph container orchestrators exist - rook which
is a ceph orch or kubernetes and ceph-adm which is an orchestrator
expecting docker or podman
Admittedly I don't fully understand the nuanced differences between rook
(which can be added as a module to the ceph orchestrator cli) and cephadm
(no idea how this is related to the ceph orch cli) - they kinda seem to do
the same thing but slightly differently (or not?).

On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 16:51, Tony Liu  wrote:

> Instead of complaining, take some time to learn more about container would
> help.
>
> Tony
> 
> From: Marc 
> Sent: November 18, 2021 10:50 AM
> To: Pickett, Neale T; Hans van den Bogert; ceph-users@ceph.io
> Subject: [ceph-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Why you might want packages not
> containers for Ceph deployments
>
> > We also use containers for ceph and love it. If for some reason we
> > couldn't run ceph this way any longer, we would probably migrate
> > everything to a different solution. We are absolutely committed to
> > containerization.
>
> I wonder if you are really using containers. Are you not just using
> ceph-adm? If you would be using containers you would have selected your OC
> already, and would be pissed about how the current containers are being
> developed and have to use a 2nd system.
>
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[ceph-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-11-18 Thread Tony Liu
Instead of complaining, take some time to learn more about container would help.

Tony

From: Marc 
Sent: November 18, 2021 10:50 AM
To: Pickett, Neale T; Hans van den Bogert; ceph-users@ceph.io
Subject: [ceph-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Why you might want packages not 
containers for Ceph deployments

> We also use containers for ceph and love it. If for some reason we
> couldn't run ceph this way any longer, we would probably migrate
> everything to a different solution. We are absolutely committed to
> containerization.

I wonder if you are really using containers. Are you not just using ceph-adm? 
If you would be using containers you would have selected your OC already, and 
would be pissed about how the current containers are being developed and have 
to use a 2nd system.






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[ceph-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Why you might want packages not containers for Ceph deployments

2021-11-18 Thread Marc
> We also use containers for ceph and love it. If for some reason we
> couldn't run ceph this way any longer, we would probably migrate
> everything to a different solution. We are absolutely committed to
> containerization.

I wonder if you are really using containers. Are you not just using ceph-adm? 
If you would be using containers you would have selected your OC already, and 
would be pissed about how the current containers are being developed and have 
to use a 2nd system.




 
 
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