[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Christian Rohmann]

Hey everyone,


On 20/10/2022 10:12, Christian Rohmann wrote:

1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:

On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:

I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the 
announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the 
technical process of releasing.
But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to 
new releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates 
prior to the announcement and final release and update notes.
By my observations sometimes there are packages available on the 
download servers via the "last stable" folders such as 
https://download.ceph.com/debian-quincy/ quite some time before the 
announcement of a release is out.
I know it's hard to time this right with mirrors requiring some time 
to sync files, but would be nice to not see the packages or have 
people install them before there are the release notes and potential 
pointers to changes out. 


Todays 16.2.11 release shows the exact issue I described above 

1) 16.2.11 packages are already available via e.g. 
https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific
2) release notes not yet merged: 
(https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/49839), thus 
https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2022/v16-2-11-pacific-released/ show a 404 :-)
3) No announcement like 
https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@ceph.io/message/QOCU563UD3D3ZTB5C5BJT5WRSJL5CVSD/ 
to the ML yet.



Regards


Christian


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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Konstantin Shalygin]

May be Mike can organize this release flow... 🙂
CC'ed Mike Perez, I think team need some manager observability (a little)


k

> On 25 Jan 2023, at 16:26, Christian Rohmann  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> 
> On 20/10/2022 10:12, Christian Rohmann wrote:
>> 1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:
>> 
>> On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the announcement 
>>> happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the technical process of 
>>> releasing.
>>> But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to new 
>>> releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates prior to 
>>> the announcement and final release and update notes.
>> By my observations sometimes there are packages available on the download 
>> servers via the "last stable" folders such as 
>> https://download.ceph.com/debian-quincy/ quite some time before the 
>> announcement of a release is out.
>> I know it's hard to time this right with mirrors requiring some time to sync 
>> files, but would be nice to not see the packages or have people install them 
>> before there are the release notes and potential pointers to changes out. 
> 
> Todays 16.2.11 release shows the exact issue I described above 
> 
> 1) 16.2.11 packages are already available via e.g. 
> https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific
> 2) release notes not yet merged: (https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/49839), 
> thus https://ceph.io/en/news/blog/2022/v16-2-11-pacific-released/ show a 404 
> :-)
> 3) No announcement like 
> https://lists.ceph.io/hyperkitty/list/ceph-users@ceph.io/message/QOCU563UD3D3ZTB5C5BJT5WRSJL5CVSD/
>  to the ML yet.
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Christian Rohmann]

On 19/10/2022 11:26, Chris Palmer wrote:
I've noticed that packages for Quincy 17.2.5 appeared in the debian 11 
repo a few days ago. However I haven't seen any mention of it 
anywhere, can't find any release notes, and the documentation still 
shows 17.2.4 as the latest version.


Is 17.2.5 documented and ready for use yet? It's a bit risky having it 
sitting undocumented in the repo for any length of time when it might 
inadvertently be applied when doing routine patching... (I spotted it, 
but one day someone might not).


I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the 
announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the 
technical process of releasing.
But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to new 
releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates prior 
to the announcement and final release and update notes.



Regards

Christian

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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Christophe BAILLON]

Hello,

I just bootstrap a new cluster with cephadm on ubuntu 20.04 LTS up to date, and 
got some errors on gui

ceph -v
ceph version 17.2.5 (98318ae89f1a893a6ded3a640405cdbb33e08757) quincy (stable)


When I try to create a new erasure coded pool, with the gui, when I edit the ec 
profil, the popup plugin, stuck on loading, and crush device class stuck too

Regards

- Mail original -
> De: "Chris Palmer" 
> À: "ceph-users" 
> Envoyé: Mercredi 19 Octobre 2022 11:26:05
> Objet: [ceph-users] Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

> Hi
> 
> I've noticed that packages for Quincy 17.2.5 appeared in the debian 11
> repo a few days ago. However I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere,
> can't find any release notes, and the documentation still shows 17.2.4
> as the latest version.
> 
> Is 17.2.5 documented and ready for use yet? It's a bit risky having it
> sitting undocumented in the repo for any length of time when it might
> inadvertently be applied when doing routine patching... (I spotted it,
> but one day someone might not).
> 
> Thanks, Chris
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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Dan van der Ster]

There was a mail on d...@ceph.io that 17.2.4 missed a few backports, so
I presume 17.2.5 is a hotfix -- it's what 17.2.4 was supposed to be.
(And clearly the announcement is pending)

https://github.com/ceph/ceph/commits/v17.2.5

-- dan

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:46 AM Christian Rohmann
 wrote:
>
> On 19/10/2022 11:26, Chris Palmer wrote:
> > I've noticed that packages for Quincy 17.2.5 appeared in the debian 11
> > repo a few days ago. However I haven't seen any mention of it
> > anywhere, can't find any release notes, and the documentation still
> > shows 17.2.4 as the latest version.
> >
> > Is 17.2.5 documented and ready for use yet? It's a bit risky having it
> > sitting undocumented in the repo for any length of time when it might
> > inadvertently be applied when doing routine patching... (I spotted it,
> > but one day someone might not).
>
> I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the
> announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the
> technical process of releasing.
> But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to new
> releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates prior
> to the announcement and final release and update notes.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Christian
>
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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Laura Flores]

Hello everyone,

Dan is correct that 17.2.5 is a hotfix release. There was a flaw in the
release process for 17.2.4 in which five commits were not included in the
release. The users mailing list will hear an official announcement about
this hotfix release later this week.

Thanks,
Laura

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 5:05 AM Dan van der Ster  wrote:

> There was a mail on d...@ceph.io that 17.2.4 missed a few backports, so
> I presume 17.2.5 is a hotfix -- it's what 17.2.4 was supposed to be.
> (And clearly the announcement is pending)
>
> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/commits/v17.2.5
>
> -- dan
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:46 AM Christian Rohmann
>  wrote:
> >
> > On 19/10/2022 11:26, Chris Palmer wrote:
> > > I've noticed that packages for Quincy 17.2.5 appeared in the debian 11
> > > repo a few days ago. However I haven't seen any mention of it
> > > anywhere, can't find any release notes, and the documentation still
> > > shows 17.2.4 as the latest version.
> > >
> > > Is 17.2.5 documented and ready for use yet? It's a bit risky having it
> > > sitting undocumented in the repo for any length of time when it might
> > > inadvertently be applied when doing routine patching... (I spotted it,
> > > but one day someone might not).
> >
> > I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the
> > announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the
> > technical process of releasing.
> > But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to new
> > releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates prior
> > to the announcement and final release and update notes.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Christian
> >
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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Christian Rohmann]

On 19/10/2022 16:30, Laura Flores wrote:
Dan is correct that 17.2.5 is a hotfix release. There was a flaw in 
the release process for 17.2.4 in which five commits were not included 
in the release. The users mailing list will hear an official 
announcement about this hotfix release later this week.


Thanks for the info.


1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:

On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:

I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the 
announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the 
technical process of releasing.
But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to new 
releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates prior 
to the announcement and final release and update notes.
By my observations sometimes there are packages available on the 
download servers via the "last stable" folders such as 
https://download.ceph.com/debian-quincy/ quite some time before the 
announcement of a release is out.
I know it's hard to time this right with mirrors requiring some time to 
sync files, but would be nice to not see the packages or have people 
install them before there are the release notes and potential pointers 
to changes out.



2) Also in cases as with the 17.2.4 release containing a regression it 
would be great to have the N release and N-1 there to allow users to 
downgrade to a previous point-release quickly in case they run into issues.
Otherwise one needs to configure the N-1 repo manually to still have 
access to the N-1 release.


And with this just being links in the filesystem this should not even 
take make space on the download servers or their mirrors.




Regards


Christian

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[ceph-users] Re: Status of Quincy 17.2.5 ?

[Chris Palmer]

I do agree with Christian. I would like to see the Ceph repositories 
handled in a similar way to most others:


 * Testing or pre-release packages go into one (or more) testing repos
 * Production-ready packages go into the production repo

I don't care about the minor mirror-synch delay. What I do care about is 
only pulling packages that really are production-ready unless I 
explicitly go looking for a pre-release one...


Thanks, Chris

On 20/10/2022 09:12, Christian Rohmann wrote:


On 19/10/2022 16:30, Laura Flores wrote:
Dan is correct that 17.2.5 is a hotfix release. There was a flaw in 
the release process for 17.2.4 in which five commits were not 
included in the release. The users mailing list will hear an official 
announcement about this hotfix release later this week.


Thanks for the info.


1) May I bring up again my remarks about the timing:

On 19/10/2022 11:46, Christian Rohmann wrote:

I believe the upload of a new release to the repo prior to the 
announcement happens quite regularly - it might just be due to the 
technical process of releasing.
But I agree it would be nice to have a more "bit flip" approach to 
new releases in the repo and not have the packages appear as updates 
prior to the announcement and final release and update notes.
By my observations sometimes there are packages available on the 
download servers via the "last stable" folders such as 
https://download.ceph.com/debian-quincy/ quite some time before the 
announcement of a release is out.
I know it's hard to time this right with mirrors requiring some time 
to sync files, but would be nice to not see the packages or have 
people install them before there are the release notes and potential 
pointers to changes out.



2) Also in cases as with the 17.2.4 release containing a regression it 
would be great to have the N release and N-1 there to allow users to 
downgrade to a previous point-release quickly in case they run into 
issues.
Otherwise one needs to configure the N-1 repo manually to still have 
access to the N-1 release.


And with this just being links in the filesystem this should not even 
take make space on the download servers or their mirrors.




Regards


Christian

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