Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi Yan you are right, the data didn't get lost. it is caused by write stall. thanks 13605702...@163.com From: Yan, Zheng Date: 2017-12-18 12:01 To: 13605702...@163.com CC: John Spray; ceph-users Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:34 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works > > this is caused by write stall > > but the data below got lost, is this normal? your script never write below data to the file. try script while true; do date=`date`; echo $date; echo $date >> time.txt; sync; sleep 1; done > Mon Dec 18 03:07:48 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:49 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:50 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:51 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:52 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:53 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:54 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:55 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:56 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:57 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:58 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:59 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:00 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:01 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:02 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:03 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:04 UTC 2017 > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 11:27 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds > rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:11 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi Yan >> >> my test script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> rm -f /root/cephfs/time.txt >> >> while true >> do >> echo `date` >> /root/cephfs/time.txt >> sync >> sleep 1 >> done >> >> i run this scripte and then reboot master mds >> >> from the file /root/cephfs/time.txt, i can see there are more than 15 >> lines >> got lost: >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:43 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:44 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:45 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works > > this is caused by write stall > >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:06 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:07 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:08 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:09 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:10 UTC 2017 >> >> >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: Yan, Zheng >> Date: 2017-12-18 10:59 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: John Spray; ceph-users >> Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi Yan >>> >>> 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host >>> 2. host reboot by itself for some reason >>> >>> you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? >>> >>> in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs >>> dir, >>> when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. >>> >> >> what do you mean 15 line got lost? are you sure it's not caused by write >> stall? >> >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> >>> From: Yan, Zheng >>> Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 >>> To: 13605702...@163.com >>> CC: John Spray; ceph-users >>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >>> rebooting >>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com >>> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>>> hi John >>>> >>>> thanks for your answer. >>>> >>>> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >>>> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >>>> if this happens, data must be losed. >>>> >>>> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >>>> >>> >>> no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds >>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> 13605702...@163.com >>>> >>>> >>>> From: John Spray >>>> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >>>> To: 13605702...@163.com >>>> CC: ceph-users &g
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
The lines might not be in the file, but did the thing writing to the file say it succeeded to write or did it fail to write? I'm guessing the latter which means that just check that the write was successful and don't just assume it was before continuing on. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017, 10:07 PM Wei Jinwrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:08 PM, John Spray wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com > > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > >> hi > >> > >> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) > >> > >> my config: > >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] > >> mds_standby_replay = true > >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > >> > >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] > >> mds_standby_replay = true > >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > >> > >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] > >> mds_standby_replay = true > >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > >> > >> the mds stat: > >> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, > 1 > >> up:standby > >> > >> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write > data > >> into file under the cephfs dir, > >> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into > the > >> file. > >> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again > >> > >> so my question is: > >> is this normal when reboot the master mds? > >> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? > > > > The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the > > monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is > > 15s by default. > > > > If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout > > mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause > > another to take over right away. > > Why reboot mds must wait for grace time? > Is it possible or reasonable to tell monitor during reboot by that > daemon itself? > ___ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:34 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works > > this is caused by write stall > > but the data below got lost, is this normal? your script never write below data to the file. try script while true; do date=`date`; echo $date; echo $date >> time.txt; sync; sleep 1; done > Mon Dec 18 03:07:48 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:49 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:50 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:51 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:52 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:53 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:54 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:55 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:56 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:57 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:58 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:59 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:00 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:01 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:02 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:03 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:04 UTC 2017 > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 11:27 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds > rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:11 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi Yan >> >> my test script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> rm -f /root/cephfs/time.txt >> >> while true >> do >> echo `date` >> /root/cephfs/time.txt >> sync >> sleep 1 >> done >> >> i run this scripte and then reboot master mds >> >> from the file /root/cephfs/time.txt, i can see there are more than 15 >> lines >> got lost: >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:43 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:44 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:45 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works > > this is caused by write stall > >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:06 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:07 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:08 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:09 UTC 2017 >> Mon Dec 18 03:08:10 UTC 2017 >> >> >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: Yan, Zheng >> Date: 2017-12-18 10:59 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: John Spray; ceph-users >> Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi Yan >>> >>> 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host >>> 2. host reboot by itself for some reason >>> >>> you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? >>> >>> in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs >>> dir, >>> when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. >>> >> >> what do you mean 15 line got lost? are you sure it's not caused by write >> stall? >> >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> >>> From: Yan, Zheng >>> Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 >>> To: 13605702...@163.com >>> CC: John Spray; ceph-users >>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >>> rebooting >>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com >>> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>>> hi John >>>> >>>> thanks for your answer. >>>> >>>> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >>>> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >>>> if this happens, data must be losed. >>>> >>>> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >>>> >>> >>> no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds >>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> 13605702...@163.com >>>> >>>> >>>> From: John Spray >>>> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >>>> To: 13605702...@163.com >>>> CC: ceph-users >>>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >>>> rebooting >>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >>>> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>>>> hi >>>>>
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi Yan > Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot > Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works this is caused by write stall but the data below got lost, is this normal? Mon Dec 18 03:07:48 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:49 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:50 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:51 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:52 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:53 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:54 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:55 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:56 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:57 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:58 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:59 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:00 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:01 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:02 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:03 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:04 UTC 2017 13605702...@163.com From: Yan, Zheng Date: 2017-12-18 11:27 To: 13605702...@163.com CC: John Spray; ceph-users Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:11 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > > my test script: > > #!/bin/sh > > rm -f /root/cephfs/time.txt > > while true > do > echo `date` >> /root/cephfs/time.txt > sync > sleep 1 > done > > i run this scripte and then reboot master mds > > from the file /root/cephfs/time.txt, i can see there are more than 15 lines > got lost: > Mon Dec 18 03:07:43 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:44 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:45 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot > Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works this is caused by write stall > Mon Dec 18 03:08:06 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:07 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:08 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:09 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:10 UTC 2017 > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 10:59 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds > rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi Yan >> >> 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host >> 2. host reboot by itself for some reason >> >> you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? >> >> in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs >> dir, >> when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. >> > > what do you mean 15 line got lost? are you sure it's not caused by write > stall? > > >> thanks >> >> >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: Yan, Zheng >> Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: John Spray; ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi John >>> >>> thanks for your answer. >>> >>> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >>> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >>> if this happens, data must be losed. >>> >>> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >>> >> >> no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> >>> From: John Spray >>> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >>> To: 13605702...@163.com >>> CC: ceph-users >>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >>> rebooting >>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >>> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>>> hi >>>> >>>> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >>>> >>>> my config: >>>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >>>> mds_standby_replay = true >>>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>>> >>>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >>>> mds_standby_replay = true >>>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>>> >>>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >>>> mds_standby_replay = true >>>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>>> >>>> the mds stat: >>>> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, >>>> 1 >>>> up:standby >>>> >>>> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >>>> data >>>> into file unde
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:11 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > > my test script: > > #!/bin/sh > > rm -f /root/cephfs/time.txt > > while true > do > echo `date` >> /root/cephfs/time.txt > sync > sleep 1 > done > > i run this scripte and then reboot master mds > > from the file /root/cephfs/time.txt, i can see there are more than 15 lines > got lost: > Mon Dec 18 03:07:43 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:44 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:45 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot > Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works this is caused by write stall > Mon Dec 18 03:08:06 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:07 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:08 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:09 UTC 2017 > Mon Dec 18 03:08:10 UTC 2017 > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 10:59 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds > rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi Yan >> >> 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host >> 2. host reboot by itself for some reason >> >> you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? >> >> in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs >> dir, >> when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. >> > > what do you mean 15 line got lost? are you sure it's not caused by write > stall? > > >> thanks >> >> >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: Yan, Zheng >> Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: John Spray; ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi John >>> >>> thanks for your answer. >>> >>> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >>> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >>> if this happens, data must be losed. >>> >>> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >>> >> >> no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> >>> From: John Spray >>> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >>> To: 13605702...@163.com >>> CC: ceph-users >>> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >>> rebooting >>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >>> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>>> hi >>>> >>>> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >>>> >>>> my config: >>>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >>>> mds_standby_replay = true >>>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>>> >>>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >>>> mds_standby_replay = true >>>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>>> >>>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >>>> mds_standby_replay = true >>>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>>> >>>> the mds stat: >>>> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, >>>> 1 >>>> up:standby >>>> >>>> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >>>> data >>>> into file under the cephfs dir, >>>> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into >>>> the >>>> file. >>>> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >>>> >>>> so my question is: >>>> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >>>> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? >>> >>> The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the >>> monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is >>> 15s by default. >>> >>> If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout >>> mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause >>> another to take over right away. >>> >>> John >>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> 13605702...@163.com >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> ceph-users mailing list >>>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi Yan my test script: #!/bin/sh rm -f /root/cephfs/time.txt while true do echo `date` >> /root/cephfs/time.txt sync sleep 1 done i run this scripte and then reboot master mds from the file /root/cephfs/time.txt, i can see there are more than 15 lines got lost: Mon Dec 18 03:07:43 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:44 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:45 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:07:47 UTC 2017 <-- reboot Mon Dec 18 03:08:05 UTC 2017 <-- mds failover works Mon Dec 18 03:08:06 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:07 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:08 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:09 UTC 2017 Mon Dec 18 03:08:10 UTC 2017 13605702...@163.com From: Yan, Zheng Date: 2017-12-18 10:59 To: 13605702...@163.com CC: John Spray; ceph-users Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > > 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host > 2. host reboot by itself for some reason > > you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? > > in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs > dir, > when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. > what do you mean 15 line got lost? are you sure it's not caused by write stall? > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi John >> >> thanks for your answer. >> >> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >> if this happens, data must be losed. >> >> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >> > > no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds > >> thanks >> >> ____________ >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: John Spray >> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi >>> >>> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >>> >>> my config: >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> the mds stat: >>> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >>> up:standby >>> >>> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >>> data >>> into file under the cephfs dir, >>> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into >>> the >>> file. >>> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >>> >>> so my question is: >>> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >>> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? >> >> The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the >> monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is >> 15s by default. >> >> If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout >> mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause >> another to take over right away. >> >> John >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> ___ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:08 PM, John Spraywrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi >> >> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >> >> my config: >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> the mds stat: >> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >> up:standby >> >> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write data >> into file under the cephfs dir, >> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into the >> file. >> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >> >> so my question is: >> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? > > The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the > monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is > 15s by default. > > If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout > mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause > another to take over right away. Why reboot mds must wait for grace time? Is it possible or reasonable to tell monitor during reboot by that daemon itself? ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > > 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host > 2. host reboot by itself for some reason > > you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? > > in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs > dir, > when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. > what do you mean 15 line got lost? are you sure it's not caused by write stall? > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi John >> >> thanks for your answer. >> >> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >> if this happens, data must be losed. >> >> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >> > > no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds > >> thanks >> >> ________________ >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: John Spray >> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi >>> >>> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >>> >>> my config: >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> the mds stat: >>> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >>> up:standby >>> >>> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >>> data >>> into file under the cephfs dir, >>> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into >>> the >>> file. >>> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >>> >>> so my question is: >>> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >>> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? >> >> The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the >> monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is >> 15s by default. >> >> If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout >> mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause >> another to take over right away. >> >> John >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> ___ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi Yan cephfs client was also on the rebooted host? NO, the cephfs client is an indepentent vm 13605702...@163.com From: Yan, Zheng Date: 2017-12-18 10:36 To: 13605702...@163.com CC: John Spray; ceph-users Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > > 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host > 2. host reboot by itself for some reason > cephfs client was also on the rebooted host? > you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? > > in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs > dir, > when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. > > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi John >> >> thanks for your answer. >> >> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >> if this happens, data must be losed. >> >> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >> > > no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds > >> thanks >> >> ________________ >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: John Spray >> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi >>> >>> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >>> >>> my config: >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> the mds stat: >>> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >>> up:standby >>> >>> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >>> data >>> into file under the cephfs dir, >>> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into >>> the >>> file. >>> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >>> >>> so my question is: >>> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >>> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? >> >> The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the >> monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is >> 15s by default. >> >> If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout >> mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause >> another to take over right away. >> >> John >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> ___ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:10 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi Yan > > 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host > 2. host reboot by itself for some reason > cephfs client was also on the rebooted host? > you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? > > in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs > dir, > when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. > > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: Yan, Zheng > Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: John Spray; ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi John >> >> thanks for your answer. >> >> in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. >> but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! >> if this happens, data must be losed. >> >> so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? >> > > no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds > >> thanks >> >> ________________ >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> >> From: John Spray >> Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 >> To: 13605702...@163.com >> CC: ceph-users >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds >> rebooting >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com >> <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >>> hi >>> >>> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >>> >>> my config: >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >>> mds_standby_replay = true >>> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >>> >>> the mds stat: >>> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >>> up:standby >>> >>> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >>> data >>> into file under the cephfs dir, >>> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into >>> the >>> file. >>> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >>> >>> so my question is: >>> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >>> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? >> >> The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the >> monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is >> 15s by default. >> >> If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout >> mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause >> another to take over right away. >> >> John >> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 13605702...@163.com >>> >>> ___ >>> ceph-users mailing list >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi Yan 1. run "ceph mds fail" before rebooting host 2. host reboot by itself for some reason you means no data get lost in the BOTH conditions? in my test, i echo the date string per second into the file under cephfs dir, when i reboot the master mds, there are 15 lines got lost. thanks 13605702...@163.com From: Yan, Zheng Date: 2017-12-18 09:55 To: 13605702...@163.com CC: John Spray; ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi John > > thanks for your answer. > > in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. > but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! > if this happens, data must be losed. > > so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? > no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: John Spray > Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi >> >> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >> >> my config: >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> the mds stat: >> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >> up:standby >> >> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >> data >> into file under the cephfs dir, >> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into the >> file. >> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >> >> so my question is: >> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? > > The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the > monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is > 15s by default. > > If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout > mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause > another to take over right away. > > John > >> thanks >> >> >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> ___ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > > > ___ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi John > > thanks for your answer. > > in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. > but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! > if this happens, data must be losed. > > so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? > no data get lost in this condition. just IO stall for a few seconds > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > > From: John Spray > Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 > To: 13605702...@163.com > CC: ceph-users > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com > <13605702...@163.com> wrote: >> hi >> >> i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) >> >> my config: >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] >> mds_standby_replay = true >> mds_standby_for_rank = 0 >> >> the mds stat: >> e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 >> up:standby >> >> i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write >> data >> into file under the cephfs dir, >> when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into the >> file. >> after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again >> >> so my question is: >> is this normal when reboot the master mds? >> when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? > > The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the > monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is > 15s by default. > > If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout > mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause > another to take over right away. > > John > >> thanks >> >> >> 13605702...@163.com >> >> ___ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > > > ___ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi John thanks for your answer. in normal condition, i can run "ceph mds fiail" before reboot. but if the host reboots by itself for some reason, i can do nothing! if this happens, data must be losed. so, is there any other way to stop data from being losed? thanks 13605702...@163.com From: John Spray Date: 2017-12-15 18:08 To: 13605702...@163.com CC: ceph-users Subject: Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi > > i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) > > my config: > [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] > mds_standby_replay = true > mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > > [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] > mds_standby_replay = true > mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > > [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] > mds_standby_replay = true > mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > > the mds stat: > e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 > up:standby > > i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write data > into file under the cephfs dir, > when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into the > file. > after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again > > so my question is: > is this normal when reboot the master mds? > when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is 15s by default. If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause another to take over right away. John > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > ___ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
Re: [ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:45 AM, 13605702...@163.com <13605702...@163.com> wrote: > hi > > i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) > > my config: > [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] > mds_standby_replay = true > mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > > [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] > mds_standby_replay = true > mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > > [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] > mds_standby_replay = true > mds_standby_for_rank = 0 > > the mds stat: > e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 > up:standby > > i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write data > into file under the cephfs dir, > when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into the > file. > after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again > > so my question is: > is this normal when reboot the master mds? > when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? The standby takes over after the active daemon has not reported to the monitors for `mds_beacon_grace` seconds, which as you have noticed is 15s by default. If you know you are rebooting something, you can pre-empt the timeout mechanism by using "ceph mds fail" on the active daemon, to cause another to take over right away. John > thanks > > > 13605702...@163.com > > ___ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
[ceph-users] cephfs miss data for 15s when master mds rebooting
hi i used 3 nodes to deploy mds (each node also has mon on it) my config: [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-17] mds_standby_replay = true mds_standby_for_rank = 0 [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-21] mds_standby_replay = true mds_standby_for_rank = 0 [mds.ceph-node-10-101-4-22] mds_standby_replay = true mds_standby_for_rank = 0 the mds stat: e29: 1/1/1 up {0=ceph-node-10-101-4-22=up:active}, 1 up:standby-replay, 1 up:standby i mount the cephfs on the ceph client, and run the test script to write data into file under the cephfs dir, when i reboot the master mds, and i found the data is not written into the file. after 15 seconds, data can be written into the file again so my question is: is this normal when reboot the master mds? when will the up:standby-replay mds take over the the cephfs? thanks 13605702...@163.com ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com