Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-05-06 Thread Andrija Panic
Well, seems like they are on satellite :)

On 6 May 2015 at 02:58, Matthew Monaco m...@monaco.cx wrote:

 On 05/05/2015 08:55 AM, Andrija Panic wrote:
  Hi,
 
  small update:
 
  in 3 months - we lost 5 out of 6 Samsung 128Gb 850 PROs (just few days in
  between of each SSD death) - cant believe it - NOT due to wearing out...
 I
  really hope we got efective series from suplier...
 

 That's ridiculous. Are these drives mounted un-shielded on a satellite? I
 didn't
 know the ISS had a ceph cluster.



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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-05-05 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 05/05/2015 08:55 AM, Andrija Panic wrote:
 Hi,
 
 small update:
 
 in 3 months - we lost 5 out of 6 Samsung 128Gb 850 PROs (just few days in
 between of each SSD death) - cant believe it - NOT due to wearing out... I
 really hope we got efective series from suplier...
 

That's ridiculous. Are these drives mounted un-shielded on a satellite? I didn't
know the ISS had a ceph cluster.




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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-05-05 Thread Andrija Panic
Hi,

small update:

in 3 months - we lost 5 out of 6 Samsung 128Gb 850 PROs (just few days in
between of each SSD death) - cant believe it - NOT due to wearing out... I
really hope we got efective series from suplier...

Regards

On 18 April 2015 at 14:24, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes I know, but to late now, I'm afraid :)

 On 18 April 2015 at 14:18, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you looked into the samsung 845 dc? They are not that expensive last
 time I checked.

 /Josef
 On 18 Apr 2015 13:15, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 might be true, yes - we had Intel 128GB (intel S3500 or S3700) - but
 these have horrible random/sequetial speeds - Samsun 850 PROs are 3 times
 at least faster on sequential, and more than 3 times faser on random/IOPS
 measures.
 And ofcourse modern enterprise drives = ...

 On 18 April 2015 at 12:42, Mark Kirkwood mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz
 wrote:

 Yes, it sure is - my experience with 'consumer' SSD is that they die
 with obscure firmware bugs (wrong capacity, zero capacity, not detected in
 bios anymore) rather than flash wearout. It seems that the 'enterprise'
 tagged drives are less inclined to suffer this fate.

 Regards

 Mark

 On 18/04/15 22:23, Andrija Panic wrote:

 these 2 drives, are on the regular SATA (on board)controler, and beside
 this, there is 12 x 4TB on the fron of the servers - normal backplane
 on
 the front.

 Anyway, we are going to check those dead SSDs on a pc/laptop or so,just
 to confirm they are really dead - but this is the way they die, not
 wear
 out, but simply show different space instead of real one - thse were 3
 months old only when they died...

 On 18 April 2015 at 11:55, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com
 mailto:jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe
 other drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there
 as
 well.

 On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com
 mailto:ste...@me.com wrote:


   On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of
 these
 died... wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know
 these are not enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But
 making sure same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and
 doing preventive replacement rotation might be good practice I
 guess.

 /Steffen

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Andrija Panic
yes I know, but to late now, I'm afraid :)

On 18 April 2015 at 14:18, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you looked into the samsung 845 dc? They are not that expensive last
 time I checked.

 /Josef
 On 18 Apr 2015 13:15, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 might be true, yes - we had Intel 128GB (intel S3500 or S3700) - but
 these have horrible random/sequetial speeds - Samsun 850 PROs are 3 times
 at least faster on sequential, and more than 3 times faser on random/IOPS
 measures.
 And ofcourse modern enterprise drives = ...

 On 18 April 2015 at 12:42, Mark Kirkwood mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz
 wrote:

 Yes, it sure is - my experience with 'consumer' SSD is that they die
 with obscure firmware bugs (wrong capacity, zero capacity, not detected in
 bios anymore) rather than flash wearout. It seems that the 'enterprise'
 tagged drives are less inclined to suffer this fate.

 Regards

 Mark

 On 18/04/15 22:23, Andrija Panic wrote:

 these 2 drives, are on the regular SATA (on board)controler, and beside
 this, there is 12 x 4TB on the fron of the servers - normal backplane on
 the front.

 Anyway, we are going to check those dead SSDs on a pc/laptop or so,just
 to confirm they are really dead - but this is the way they die, not wear
 out, but simply show different space instead of real one - thse were 3
 months old only when they died...

 On 18 April 2015 at 11:55, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com
 mailto:jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe
 other drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there as
 well.

 On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com
 mailto:ste...@me.com wrote:


   On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these
 died... wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know
 these are not enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But
 making sure same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and
 doing preventive replacement rotation might be good practice I
 guess.

 /Steffen

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Andrija Panic
might be true, yes - we had Intel 128GB (intel S3500 or S3700) - but these
have horrible random/sequetial speeds - Samsun 850 PROs are 3 times at
least faster on sequential, and more than 3 times faser on random/IOPS
measures.
And ofcourse modern enterprise drives = ...

On 18 April 2015 at 12:42, Mark Kirkwood mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz
wrote:

 Yes, it sure is - my experience with 'consumer' SSD is that they die with
 obscure firmware bugs (wrong capacity, zero capacity, not detected in bios
 anymore) rather than flash wearout. It seems that the 'enterprise' tagged
 drives are less inclined to suffer this fate.

 Regards

 Mark

 On 18/04/15 22:23, Andrija Panic wrote:

 these 2 drives, are on the regular SATA (on board)controler, and beside
 this, there is 12 x 4TB on the fron of the servers - normal backplane on
 the front.

 Anyway, we are going to check those dead SSDs on a pc/laptop or so,just
 to confirm they are really dead - but this is the way they die, not wear
 out, but simply show different space instead of real one - thse were 3
 months old only when they died...

 On 18 April 2015 at 11:55, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com
 mailto:jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe
 other drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there as
 well.

 On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com
 mailto:ste...@me.com wrote:


   On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these
 died... wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know
 these are not enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But
 making sure same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and
 doing preventive replacement rotation might be good practice I
 guess.

 /Steffen

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Yes, it sure is - my experience with 'consumer' SSD is that they die 
with obscure firmware bugs (wrong capacity, zero capacity, not detected 
in bios anymore) rather than flash wearout. It seems that the 
'enterprise' tagged drives are less inclined to suffer this fate.


Regards

Mark

On 18/04/15 22:23, Andrija Panic wrote:

these 2 drives, are on the regular SATA (on board)controler, and beside
this, there is 12 x 4TB on the fron of the servers - normal backplane on
the front.

Anyway, we are going to check those dead SSDs on a pc/laptop or so,just
to confirm they are really dead - but this is the way they die, not wear
out, but simply show different space instead of real one - thse were 3
months old only when they died...

On 18 April 2015 at 11:55, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com
mailto:jose...@gmail.com wrote:

If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe
other drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there as
well.

On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com
mailto:ste...@me.com wrote:


  On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic
andrija.pa...@gmail.com mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these
died... wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know
these are not enterprise,etc… )
Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But
making sure same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and
doing preventive replacement rotation might be good practice I
guess.

/Steffen

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Josef Johansson
Have you looked into the samsung 845 dc? They are not that expensive last
time I checked.

/Josef
On 18 Apr 2015 13:15, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 might be true, yes - we had Intel 128GB (intel S3500 or S3700) - but these
 have horrible random/sequetial speeds - Samsun 850 PROs are 3 times at
 least faster on sequential, and more than 3 times faser on random/IOPS
 measures.
 And ofcourse modern enterprise drives = ...

 On 18 April 2015 at 12:42, Mark Kirkwood mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz
 wrote:

 Yes, it sure is - my experience with 'consumer' SSD is that they die with
 obscure firmware bugs (wrong capacity, zero capacity, not detected in bios
 anymore) rather than flash wearout. It seems that the 'enterprise' tagged
 drives are less inclined to suffer this fate.

 Regards

 Mark

 On 18/04/15 22:23, Andrija Panic wrote:

 these 2 drives, are on the regular SATA (on board)controler, and beside
 this, there is 12 x 4TB on the fron of the servers - normal backplane on
 the front.

 Anyway, we are going to check those dead SSDs on a pc/laptop or so,just
 to confirm they are really dead - but this is the way they die, not wear
 out, but simply show different space instead of real one - thse were 3
 months old only when they died...

 On 18 April 2015 at 11:55, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com
 mailto:jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe
 other drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there as
 well.

 On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com
 mailto:ste...@me.com wrote:


   On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these
 died... wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know
 these are not enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But
 making sure same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and
 doing preventive replacement rotation might be good practice I
 guess.

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Steffen W Sørensen

 On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died... wearing 
 level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not enterprise,etc… )
Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But making sure same 
type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and doing preventive replacement 
rotation might be good practice I guess.

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Josef Johansson
If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe other
drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there as well.
On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com wrote:


  On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But making sure
 same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and doing preventive
 replacement rotation might be good practice I guess.

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Andrija Panic
heh :) yes, intresting last name :)
anyway, all are the exact same age, we implememnted new CEPH nodes at
exactly same time - but it's now wearing problem - the dead SSDs were siply
DEAD - smartctl-a showing nothing, except 600 PB space/size :)

On 18 April 2015 at 09:41, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com wrote:


  On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But making sure
 same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and doing preventive
 replacement rotation might be good practice I guess.

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-18 Thread Andrija Panic
these 2 drives, are on the regular SATA (on board)controler, and beside
this, there is 12 x 4TB on the fron of the servers - normal backplane on
the front.

Anyway, we are going to check those dead SSDs on a pc/laptop or so,just to
confirm they are really dead - but this is the way they die, not wear out,
but simply show different space instead of real one - thse were 3 months
old only when they died...

On 18 April 2015 at 11:55, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the same chassi/chip/backplane is behind both drives and maybe other
 drives in the chassi have troubles,it may be a defect there as well.
 On 18 Apr 2015 09:42, Steffen W Sørensen ste...@me.com wrote:


  On 17/04/2015, at 21.07, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc… )
 Damn… but maybe your surname says it all - Don’t Panic :) But making sure
 same type of SSD devices ain’t of near same age and doing preventive
 replacement rotation might be good practice I guess.

 /Steffen

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Steffen W Sørensen
 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD down, ceph 
 rebalanced etc.
 
 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would like to 
 know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6 OSDs that 
 are down now.
Well assuming the OSDs are downwith journal device lost and as data have been 
rebalanced/re-replicated else where. I would assume scratch these 6x downed+out 
OSD+journal and rebuilt 6 new OSD and add such to cluster capacity after 
properly maintaining the CRUSH map remove the crashes OSDs.

 
 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or just 
 recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s 
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.
 
 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:
 
 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID
 
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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Andrija Panic
SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the OSDs.

On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or
 just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Robert LeBlanc
Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD down,
 ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would like to
 know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6 OSDs that
 are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or
 just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Josef Johansson
Hi,

Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

/Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the 
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?
 
 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com 
 mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:
 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.
 
 Cheers
 
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us 
 mailto:rob...@leblancnet.us wrote:
 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.
 
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com 
 mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD down, ceph 
 rebalanced etc.
 
 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would like to 
 know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6 OSDs that 
 are down now.
 
 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or just 
 recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s 
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.
 
 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:
 
 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID
 
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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Andrija Panic
Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

Cheers
On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD down,
 ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would like
 to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6 OSDs
 that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or
 just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Andrija Panic
12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD down,
 ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would like
 to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6 OSDs
 that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or
 just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Andrija Panic
nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
enterprise,etc... )

On 17 April 2015 at 21:01, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 tough luck, hope everything comes up ok afterwards. What models on the SSD?

 /Josef
 On 17 Apr 2015 20:05, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
 down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the OSDs.

 On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us
 wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 
 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?),
 or just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln 
 -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Josef Johansson
the massive rebalancing does not affect the ssds in a good way either. But
from what I've gatherd the pro should be fine. Massive amount of write
errors in the logs?

/Josef
On 17 Apr 2015 21:07, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc... )

 On 17 April 2015 at 21:01, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 tough luck, hope everything comes up ok afterwards. What models on the
 SSD?

 /Josef
 On 17 Apr 2015 20:05, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
 down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the OSDs.

 On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us
 wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for 
 those 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?),
 or just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln 
 -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Josef Johansson
tough luck, hope everything comes up ok afterwards. What models on the SSD?

/Josef
On 17 Apr 2015 20:05, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
 down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the OSDs.

 On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?),
 or just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Krzysztof Nowicki
I have two of them in my cluster (plus one 256GB version) for about half a
year now. So far so good. I'll be keeping a closer look at them.

pt., 17 kwi 2015, 21:07 Andrija Panic użytkownik andrija.pa...@gmail.com
napisał:

 nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc... )

 On 17 April 2015 at 21:01, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 tough luck, hope everything comes up ok afterwards. What models on the
 SSD?

 /Josef
 On 17 Apr 2015 20:05, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
 down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the OSDs.

 On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
 existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us
 wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for 
 those 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?),
 or just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln 
 -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Andrija Panic
damn, good news for me, pssibly bad news for you :)
what is wearing level (samrtctl -a /dev/sdX) - attribute near the end of
the atribute list...

thx

On 17 April 2015 at 21:12, Krzysztof Nowicki krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I have two of them in my cluster (plus one 256GB version) for about half a
 year now. So far so good. I'll be keeping a closer look at them.

 pt., 17 kwi 2015, 21:07 Andrija Panic użytkownik andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 napisał:

 nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc... )

 On 17 April 2015 at 21:01, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 tough luck, hope everything comes up ok afterwards. What models on the
 SSD?

 /Josef
 On 17 Apr 2015 20:05, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
 down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the 
 OSDs.

 On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with
 the existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us
 wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for 
 those 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still
 exist...?), or just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv 
 links
 again: ln -s /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and
 starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation
 please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Krzysztof Nowicki
Checked the SMART status. All of the Samsungs have Wear Leveling Count
equal to 99 (raw values 29, 36 and 15). I'm going to have to monitor them -
I could afford loosing one of them, but loosing two would mean loss of data.

pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 21:22 użytkownik Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com
napisał:

 the massive rebalancing does not affect the ssds in a good way either. But
 from what I've gatherd the pro should be fine. Massive amount of write
 errors in the logs?

 /Josef
 On 17 Apr 2015 21:07, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 nahSamsun 850 PRO 128GB - dead after 3months - 2 of these died...
 wearing level is 96%, so only 4% wasted... (yes I know these are not
 enterprise,etc... )

 On 17 April 2015 at 21:01, Josef Johansson jose...@gmail.com wrote:

 tough luck, hope everything comes up ok afterwards. What models on the
 SSD?

 /Josef
 On 17 Apr 2015 20:05, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 SSD died that hosted journals for 6 OSDs - 2 x SSD died, so 12 OSDs are
 down, and rebalancing is about finish... after which I need to fix the 
 OSDs.

 On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Josef Johansson jo...@oderland.se wrote:

 Hi,

 Did 6 other OSDs go down when re-adding?

 /Josef

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 18:49, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 12 osds down - I expect less work with removing and adding osd?
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:35 PM, Krzysztof Nowicki 
 krzysztof.a.nowi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with
 the existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

 pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us
 wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic 
 andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD
 down, ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would
 like to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for 
 those 6
 OSDs that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still
 exist...?), or just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv 
 links
 again: ln -s /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and
 starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation
 please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

 Any thought greatly appreciated !

 Thanks,

 --

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Re: [ceph-users] replace dead SSD journal

2015-04-17 Thread Krzysztof Nowicki
Why not just wipe out the OSD filesystem, run ceph-osd --mkfs with the
existing OSD UUID, copy the keyring and let it populate itself?

pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 18:31 użytkownik Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
napisał:

 Thx guys, thats what I will be doing at the end.

 Cheers
 On Apr 17, 2015 6:24 PM, Robert LeBlanc rob...@leblancnet.us wrote:

 Delete and re-add all six OSDs.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I have 1 SSD that hosted 6 OSD's Journals, that is dead, so 6 OSD down,
 ceph rebalanced etc.

 Now I have new SSD inside, and I will partition it etc - but would like
 to know, how to proceed now, with the journal recreation for those 6 OSDs
 that are down now.

 Should I flush journal (where to, journals doesnt still exist...?), or
 just recreate journal from scratch (making symboliv links again: ln -s
 /dev/$DISK$PART /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal) and starting OSDs.

 I expect the folowing procedure, but would like confirmation please:

 rm /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal -f (sym link)
 ln -s /dev/SDAxxx /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 ceph-osd -i $ID --mkjournal
 ll /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-$ID/journal
 service ceph start osd.$ID

 Any thought greatly appreciated !

 Thanks,

 --

 Andrija Panić

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