Re: [Cerowrt-devel] almond

2013-04-09 Thread Richard Smith
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2037429657/almond-80211ac-touchscreen-wifi-router-smart-home

 Anyone know what OS is in this?

This was listed in the specifications:

620MHz Processor
128MB RAM
Linux 2.6.30

So  something Linux based.

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[Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: [homenet] Fwd: videos and blog posts on home networking, buffer bloat

2013-04-09 Thread Dave Taht
All three homenet demos ran openwrt.

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From: Jari Arkko jari.ar...@piuha.net
Date: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:03 AM
Subject: [homenet] Fwd: videos and blog posts on home networking, buffer
bloat
To: home...@ietf.org


FYI, there were some homenet-related videos that were shot in the BnB event
at the IETF. Great videos, Mark and John! The bufferbloat stuff was also
very interesting.

Jari

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 From: IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org
 Subject: videos and blog posts on home networking, buffer bloat
 Date: April 9, 2013 1:27:36 PM GMT+03:00
 To: i...@ietf.org Discussion i...@ietf.org
 Cc: John Brzozowski john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com

 The good folks at ISOC shot a number of videos during IETF-86 with
experts on various topics. These videos are now available, take a look at
the blog post John and I wrote:

 http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/04/bits-n-bytes-on-video/

 The videos can also be accessed directly at:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvhtLl8aTg (John Brzozowski on HIPnet)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-vwdD3Xtyg (Mark Townsley on HOMENET)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHYOu4aAqg (Chris Griffiths and Dave Täht
on buffer bloat)

 There was also an earlier blog post that focused on the importance on
running code, written together with Chris:

 http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/03/running-code-at-ietf-86-2/

 All in all, I thought these demos and videos were very interesting. It is
excellent that we are building implementations of the things that we
specify in the working groups. And interestingly, Bits-n-Bytes has become a
place to show some these results. Thanks to everyone who was involved, and
the sponsors who made it possible! I also think it would be great to have
even more of this in the coming IETFs. If you have ideas, let us know!

 Jari Arkko


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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] some good bloat related stuff on the ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13:00-15:00, room Caribbean 6

2013-04-09 Thread Matt Mathis
Two of the tests in my model based metrics draft (for IPPM) are for
AQM (like) tests.   One we have pretty good theory for (preventing
standing queues in congestion avoidance) and the other we don't
(exiting from slowstart at a reasonable window).

See: draft-mathis-ippm-model-based-metrics-01.txt

My intent is that these tests will become part of a future IPPM
standard on what a network must do in order to support modern
applications at specific performance levels. Although the draft
will not specify AQM algorithms at all, it will forbid some non-AQM
behaviors such as unreasonable standing queues.   To the extent that
it gets traction as a standard, it will strongly encourage deployment,
even if we are not totally convinced that our current AQM algorithms
are 100% correct.

However, It is not clear that we need to standardize AQM - It strikes
me as one area where we can permit pretty much unfettered diversity in
the operational Internet as long as it meets a pretty low  it seems
to work bar.

For this reason it is important to deploy your favorite algorithm(s)
ASAP, because they are all infinitely better than none, and future
improvements will be relatively minor by comparison.

Thanks,
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM, dpr...@reed.com wrote:

 A small suggestion.  Instead of working on *algorithms*, focus on getting 
 something actually *deployed* to fix the very real issues that we have today 
 (preserving the option to upgrade later if need be).



 The folks who built the Internet (I was there, as you probably know) focused 
 on making stuff that worked and interoperated, not publishing papers or RFCs.



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 From: Wesley Eddy w...@mti-systems.com
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 To: Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com
 Cc: bloat-annou...@lists.bufferbloat.net, Martin Stiemerling 
 martin.stiemerl...@neclab.eu, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat 
 bl...@lists.bufferbloat.net
 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] some good bloat related stuff on the 
 ICCRG agenda, IETF #86 Tuesday, March 12 2013, 13:00-15:00, room Caribbean 6

 On 2/28/2013 10:53 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
 
  For those that don't attend ietf meetings in person, there is usually
  live audio and jabber chat hooked up into the presentations.
 
  See y'all there, next month, in one form or another.
 


 In the TSVAREA meeting, we've also set aside some time to talk
 about AQM and whether there's interest and energy to do some
 more specific work on AQM algs in the IETF (e.g. like CoDel and
 PIE):

 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/86/agenda/tsvarea

 I'm working with Martin on some slides to seed the discussion,
 but we hope that it's mostly the community that we hear from,
 following up in the higher-bandwidth face-to-face time from
 the thread we had on the tsv-a...@ietf.org mailing list a few
 months ago.


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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] OpenVPN?

2013-04-09 Thread Dave Taht
I used to include openvpn as part of the default build of cero. It broke
entirely in the the 3.7.5 release so it was removed. It is fixed in the
3.8.6-2 release but it appears the luci gui is currently marked as broken
in openwrt head.

http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero2/cerowrt/wndr/3.8.6-2/

You can get the openvpn-openssl and openvpn-easyrsa packages via

opkg update
opkg install openvpn-openssl

I note I'm not huge on generating rsa keys on devices with minimal entropy.

I also note that either vtun or openvpn could use some debloating and love,
in that when I last pounded a lot of data through it, it had interesting
drop characteristics, and that it appears useful to attach fq_codel to a
vtun interface in some cases.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Hemminger 
stephen.hemmin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any Cerowrt instructions to enable openvpn. Or is it the same as Openwrt?

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