Re: [Cerowrt-devel] google wifi

2015-08-19 Thread Isaac Konikoff
Yep, planning to do just that...but already the marketing has got me 
shaking my head... AC1900 for Wi-Fi speeds up to 1900Mbps





On 08/18/2015 01:56 PM, Dave Taht wrote:

I would like very much for someone from this group to put this box
through it's paces with flent on the isp side, and to test the wifi
side with the rtt_fair tests, and publish their results.
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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] google wifi

2015-08-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Isaac Konikoff wrote:

Yep, planning to do just that...but already the marketing has got me 
shaking my head... AC1900 for Wi-Fi speeds up to 1900Mbps


everybody does it

http://www.cnet.com/topics/networking/best-networking-devices/802-11ac/

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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] google wifi

2015-08-19 Thread Jonathan Morton
Everyone except Apple.  They're using the same Airport Extreme Base
Station branding as my 2007 draft-n model.

- Jonathan Morton
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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone have real info on the google router?

2015-08-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, David Lang wrote:

I'll bet a lot of that stuff is either used as-is (with a different 
config system), or they just don't implement it (I doubt it has QoS for 
example)


The marketing indicates that it can prioritize some hosts over others, so 
it'll have QoS, but it might just be whatever IPQ8064 offers as standard 
(since the packet forwarding hardware is controlled by proprietary 
firmware and proprietary kernel modifications to interact with this 
firmware).


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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone have real info on the google router?

2015-08-19 Thread David Lang

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Steven Barth wrote:


Wow, I must imagine it to be especially painful to reinvent the wheel
for all things QoS, WiFi optimizations, IPv6, Firewalling etc. and
rebuilding that on top of ChromeOS.


It's all Linux under the covers, so there's probably far less reinventing than 
you think.


I'll bet a lot of that stuff is either used as-is (with a different config 
system), or they just don't implement it (I doubt it has QoS for example)


David Lang
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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone have real info on the google router?

2015-08-19 Thread Steven Barth



It's all Linux under the covers, so there's probably far less
reinventing than 
you think.

The kernel is the least of your issues. Try finding a halfway decent network 
management daemon aimed at routers that handles v6 potentially all sorts of 
tunnels, properly integrates firewall routing qos etc.

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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone have real info on the google router?

2015-08-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, David Lang wrote:

IIRC the Ath10k wireless is not very hackable (big binary blob), so that 
would mean that unless Google has been able to do something new here, it's 
not very hackable for make-wifi-fast.


Am I remembering correctly?

otherwise it sounds like a nice device for the price.


The IPQ8064 from Qualcomm might become more FOSS-friendly over time, 
Qualcomm seems to be going in the right direction, but right now it's 
fairly closed down.


So no, I don't see this platform as a short term make-wifi-fast 
development platform, at least not without getting Qualcomm onboard and 
working closely with the project.


If I understand correctly, we have both the packet accelerator (closed 
source) and the ATH10K wireless (closed source) to contend with.


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Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone have real info on the google router?

2015-08-19 Thread Steven Barth
Wow, I must imagine it to be especially painful to reinvent the wheel
for all things QoS, WiFi optimizations, IPv6, Firewalling etc. and
rebuilding that on top of ChromeOS.

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