Re: Bowing out
Heh. :) I'm with you on not reading some threads. I haven't even opened the democrats and rice threads and I doubt I will. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: And that was meant to be sent directly to Michael, so please ignore it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
Very sorry to hear about your medical issues Maureen - as others have said I hope you can stay in the group, I really enjoy hearing your views on things! On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372508 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
I truly hope that you find the healing and peace that you seek. Please don't be gone long. On Sep 10, 2014 9:17 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: You should have a Refuah Shelama (a complete healing). I hope you're just avoiding the political threads rather than bowing out of the list in general. I do need healing, as I am past the point where allopathic medicine can do anything for me. Currently suffering with crippling arthritis in my hands, which makes it hard to type or to play my instruments. Also a failing kidney due to a reaction to the contrast agent used during a medical procedure, and a toe with the bones completely crushed. Mostly however, I need work that I can do from home as I am not able to commute very much. I'm doing a lot of data conversions, moving stuff from relational databases to Big Data tools and migrating content from various CMS systems. But I am actively seeking more clients so I can keep food on the table. On a related note, I'm rather impressed with our members on the whole. We can and do fight like cats and dogs but I've seen people of opposing viewpoints meet on some issues and have seen people who would kill each other on one issue be able to put it totally aside when the issue wasn't being discussed. I agree about the list. I have made some very good friends here, including some that I butt heads with over politics on a regular basis. But there a couple of people I've encountered here that I would not willingly break bread with, so my choice to avoid them, and I cannot do that and participate in the political discussions. I will still be onlist, just not reading the political threads. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen wrote: I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years Unfortunately, I think that the few unreasonable and borderline abusive people on this list have scared away a great many people over the years. The ones of us who are left either have very thick skins or ignore those threads. I find it useful to remember that among the people who remain here, I agree with many of them on many things. The people I have the most opposite view of (Sam, Rick) are so indoctrinated and invested into their view of the world that no amount of discussion will change their mind. These are people who may have a very hard time getting along with other people in real life as well. It's easy to feel like you have to defend sanity, logic, and the good in the world and try to convince them to change their minds. But you are just talking to a brick wall. It's a waste of time. They have made up their minds and their mission here is only to agitate and troll you. They are not attempting to have an intellectual productive conversation. It's easiest just to ignore them, and/or be amused by them. Likewise, remember that none of us are speaking in a forum of impressionable young minds here. They are not influencing or harming anyone with their viewpoints but themselves. They are not swaying anyone's opinions. Don't feel like you need to defend anyone. None of us are fooled if their statements go unchallenged, we all see them for who they are. No matter how much he tries, Sam is not convincing anyone that Climate Change is the largest conspiracy ever known to man, and Rick is not convincing anyone that beating your spouse is okay if she deserved it. I know that Rick's posts may feel very personal to you, especially since it sounds like you have been a victim of domestic abuse before. I imagine that they feel like (and may actually be, psychologically speaking) actual abusive attacks, especially with the recent devolution into name calling and disrespectful comments. I don't advocate violence unless there is a real reason for it, even against Rick. This is a silly comparison I know, but I can't help but be reminded of the third episode of The Walking Dead, an episode called Tell it to the Frogs where Carol is being abused by her husband and Shane jumps in to defend her, beating Ed within an inch of his life for his abuse. I know you are strong and capable of defending yourself, it's just a scene that I think of when I imagine that like Ed in the show, what a miserable person Rick must be like in his real life, and how this group would jump into action if we were all standing around in person and he felt the sudden need to beat ANY person because they asked for it. Especially a woman. Anyway, those are my random thoughts. I do hope you do continue to lurk and contribute at times. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
The return of GRUSS!! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote: Very sorry to hear about your medical issues Maureen - as others have said I hope you can stay in the group, I really enjoy hearing your views on things! On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372519 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
Dude, you need help. You use personal attacks against everyone you disagree with and then call them abusive because they made you do it? Try to be a little open minded just once in your life. You might enjoy it. As for the AGW, you're the one that yells the sky is falling once a week, I just like to point out there's no scientific to support your claims. Think about it. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen wrote: I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years Unfortunately, I think that the few unreasonable and borderline abusive people on this list have scared away a great many people over the years. The ones of us who are left either have very thick skins or ignore those threads. I find it useful to remember that among the people who remain here, I agree with many of them on many things. The people I have the most opposite view of (Sam, Rick) are so indoctrinated and invested into their view of the world that no amount of discussion will change their mind. These are people who may have a very hard time getting along with other people in real life as well. It's easy to feel like you have to defend sanity, logic, and the good in the world and try to convince them to change their minds. But you are just talking to a brick wall. It's a waste of time. They have made up their minds and their mission here is only to agitate and troll you. They are not attempting to have an intellectual productive conversation. It's easiest just to ignore them, and/or be amused by them. Likewise, remember that none of us are speaking in a forum of impressionable young minds here. They are not influencing or harming anyone with their viewpoints but themselves. They are not swaying anyone's opinions. Don't feel like you need to defend anyone. None of us are fooled if their statements go unchallenged, we all see them for who they are. No matter how much he tries, Sam is not convincing anyone that Climate Change is the largest conspiracy ever known to man, and Rick is not convincing anyone that beating your spouse is okay if she deserved it. I know that Rick's posts may feel very personal to you, especially since it sounds like you have been a victim of domestic abuse before. I imagine that they feel like (and may actually be, psychologically speaking) actual abusive attacks, especially with the recent devolution into name calling and disrespectful comments. I don't advocate violence unless there is a real reason for it, even against Rick. This is a silly comparison I know, but I can't help but be reminded of the third episode of The Walking Dead, an episode called Tell it to the Frogs where Carol is being abused by her husband and Shane jumps in to defend her, beating Ed within an inch of his life for his abuse. I know you are strong and capable of defending yourself, it's just a scene that I think of when I imagine that like Ed in the show, what a miserable person Rick must be like in his real life, and how this group would jump into action if we were all standing around in person and he felt the sudden need to beat ANY person because they asked for it. Especially a woman. Anyway, those are my random thoughts. I do hope you do continue to lurk and contribute at times. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372524 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
I think its cute you think you are open minded. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, you need help. You use personal attacks against everyone you disagree with and then call them abusive because they made you do it? Try to be a little open minded just once in your life. You might enjoy it. As for the AGW, you're the one that yells the sky is falling once a week, I just like to point out there's no scientific to support your claims. Think about it. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen wrote: I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years Unfortunately, I think that the few unreasonable and borderline abusive people on this list have scared away a great many people over the years. The ones of us who are left either have very thick skins or ignore those threads. I find it useful to remember that among the people who remain here, I agree with many of them on many things. The people I have the most opposite view of (Sam, Rick) are so indoctrinated and invested into their view of the world that no amount of discussion will change their mind. These are people who may have a very hard time getting along with other people in real life as well. It's easy to feel like you have to defend sanity, logic, and the good in the world and try to convince them to change their minds. But you are just talking to a brick wall. It's a waste of time. They have made up their minds and their mission here is only to agitate and troll you. They are not attempting to have an intellectual productive conversation. It's easiest just to ignore them, and/or be amused by them. Likewise, remember that none of us are speaking in a forum of impressionable young minds here. They are not influencing or harming anyone with their viewpoints but themselves. They are not swaying anyone's opinions. Don't feel like you need to defend anyone. None of us are fooled if their statements go unchallenged, we all see them for who they are. No matter how much he tries, Sam is not convincing anyone that Climate Change is the largest conspiracy ever known to man, and Rick is not convincing anyone that beating your spouse is okay if she deserved it. I know that Rick's posts may feel very personal to you, especially since it sounds like you have been a victim of domestic abuse before. I imagine that they feel like (and may actually be, psychologically speaking) actual abusive attacks, especially with the recent devolution into name calling and disrespectful comments. I don't advocate violence unless there is a real reason for it, even against Rick. This is a silly comparison I know, but I can't help but be reminded of the third episode of The Walking Dead, an episode called Tell it to the Frogs where Carol is being abused by her husband and Shane jumps in to defend her, beating Ed within an inch of his life for his abuse. I know you are strong and capable of defending yourself, it's just a scene that I think of when I imagine that like Ed in the show, what a miserable person Rick must be like in his real life, and how this group would jump into action if we were all standing around in person and he felt the sudden need to beat ANY person because they asked for it. Especially a woman. Anyway, those are my random thoughts. I do hope you do continue to lurk and contribute at times. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
I think it's cute you feel you're qualified to know what open minded means. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think its cute you think you are open minded. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, you need help. You use personal attacks against everyone you disagree with and then call them abusive because they made you do it? Try to be a little open minded just once in your life. You might enjoy it. As for the AGW, you're the one that yells the sky is falling once a week, I just like to point out there's no scientific to support your claims. Think about it. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen wrote: I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years Unfortunately, I think that the few unreasonable and borderline abusive people on this list have scared away a great many people over the years. The ones of us who are left either have very thick skins or ignore those threads. I find it useful to remember that among the people who remain here, I agree with many of them on many things. The people I have the most opposite view of (Sam, Rick) are so indoctrinated and invested into their view of the world that no amount of discussion will change their mind. These are people who may have a very hard time getting along with other people in real life as well. It's easy to feel like you have to defend sanity, logic, and the good in the world and try to convince them to change their minds. But you are just talking to a brick wall. It's a waste of time. They have made up their minds and their mission here is only to agitate and troll you. They are not attempting to have an intellectual productive conversation. It's easiest just to ignore them, and/or be amused by them. Likewise, remember that none of us are speaking in a forum of impressionable young minds here. They are not influencing or harming anyone with their viewpoints but themselves. They are not swaying anyone's opinions. Don't feel like you need to defend anyone. None of us are fooled if their statements go unchallenged, we all see them for who they are. No matter how much he tries, Sam is not convincing anyone that Climate Change is the largest conspiracy ever known to man, and Rick is not convincing anyone that beating your spouse is okay if she deserved it. I know that Rick's posts may feel very personal to you, especially since it sounds like you have been a victim of domestic abuse before. I imagine that they feel like (and may actually be, psychologically speaking) actual abusive attacks, especially with the recent devolution into name calling and disrespectful comments. I don't advocate violence unless there is a real reason for it, even against Rick. This is a silly comparison I know, but I can't help but be reminded of the third episode of The Walking Dead, an episode called Tell it to the Frogs where Carol is being abused by her husband and Shane jumps in to defend her, beating Ed within an inch of his life for his abuse. I know you are strong and capable of defending yourself, it's just a scene that I think of when I imagine that like Ed in the show, what a miserable person Rick must be like in his real life, and how this group would jump into action if we were all standing around in person and he felt the sudden need to beat ANY person because they asked for it. Especially a woman. Anyway, those are my random thoughts. I do hope you do continue to lurk and contribute at times. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
And Maureen is vindicated On Sep 11, 2014 2:13 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's cute you feel you're qualified to know what open minded means. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think its cute you think you are open minded. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, you need help. You use personal attacks against everyone you disagree with and then call them abusive because they made you do it? Try to be a little open minded just once in your life. You might enjoy it. As for the AGW, you're the one that yells the sky is falling once a week, I just like to point out there's no scientific to support your claims. Think about it. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen wrote: I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years Unfortunately, I think that the few unreasonable and borderline abusive people on this list have scared away a great many people over the years. The ones of us who are left either have very thick skins or ignore those threads. I find it useful to remember that among the people who remain here, I agree with many of them on many things. The people I have the most opposite view of (Sam, Rick) are so indoctrinated and invested into their view of the world that no amount of discussion will change their mind. These are people who may have a very hard time getting along with other people in real life as well. It's easy to feel like you have to defend sanity, logic, and the good in the world and try to convince them to change their minds. But you are just talking to a brick wall. It's a waste of time. They have made up their minds and their mission here is only to agitate and troll you. They are not attempting to have an intellectual productive conversation. It's easiest just to ignore them, and/or be amused by them. Likewise, remember that none of us are speaking in a forum of impressionable young minds here. They are not influencing or harming anyone with their viewpoints but themselves. They are not swaying anyone's opinions. Don't feel like you need to defend anyone. None of us are fooled if their statements go unchallenged, we all see them for who they are. No matter how much he tries, Sam is not convincing anyone that Climate Change is the largest conspiracy ever known to man, and Rick is not convincing anyone that beating your spouse is okay if she deserved it. I know that Rick's posts may feel very personal to you, especially since it sounds like you have been a victim of domestic abuse before. I imagine that they feel like (and may actually be, psychologically speaking) actual abusive attacks, especially with the recent devolution into name calling and disrespectful comments. I don't advocate violence unless there is a real reason for it, even against Rick. This is a silly comparison I know, but I can't help but be reminded of the third episode of The Walking Dead, an episode called Tell it to the Frogs where Carol is being abused by her husband and Shane jumps in to defend her, beating Ed within an inch of his life for his abuse. I know you are strong and capable of defending yourself, it's just a scene that I think of when I imagine that like Ed in the show, what a miserable person Rick must be like in his real life, and how this group would jump into action if we were all standing around in person and he felt the sudden need to beat ANY person because they asked for it. Especially a woman. Anyway, those are my random thoughts. I do hope you do continue to lurk and contribute at times. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372532 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
You're comment makes no sense. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: And Maureen is vindicated On Sep 11, 2014 2:13 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's cute you feel you're qualified to know what open minded means. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think its cute you think you are open minded. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
Iâve been a more or less a silent part of this forum since around 98 or 99 if my bad memory recalls correctly. In those years⦠Iâve come to realize - this forum is filled with incredibly bright guys (and gals) who can be very helpful⦠but also - who at times - can be just plain stupid, and / or ignorant⦠as well as often blind to reality. And I understand⦠reality can be subjective. Iâve got 37 years of software development experience⦠and in this group⦠Iâd rather remain silent. Not specifically pointing out one or two people mind you. Thereâs a few of you. For such smart / intelligent people⦠some of you can be really dumb. The abuse and verbal assaults are absurd - and way beyond reasonable. Thatâs why I donât actively participate on this forum. Just wanted to toss that out for anyone who cares. From: Sam sammyc...@gmail.com Reply: cf-community@houseoffusion.com cf-community@houseoffusion.com Date: September 11, 2014 at 2:21:48 PM To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Bowing out You're comment makes no sense. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: And Maureen is vindicated On Sep 11, 2014 2:13 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's cute you feel you're qualified to know what open minded means. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think its cute you think you are open minded. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372539 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
I may agree but judgments can be very subjective. I like to think people just disagree rather then think they are stupid. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:58 PM, CF:_InternetEmail.info h...@internetemail.info wrote: Iâve been a more or less a silent part of this forum since around 98 or 99 if my bad memory recalls correctly. In those years⦠Iâve come to realize - this forum is filled with incredibly bright guys (and gals) who can be very helpful⦠but also - who at times - can be just plain stupid, and / or ignorant⦠as well as often blind to reality. And I understand⦠reality can be subjective. Iâve got 37 years of software development experience⦠and in this group⦠Iâd rather remain silent. Not specifically pointing out one or two people mind you. Thereâs a few of you. For such smart / intelligent people⦠some of you can be really dumb. The abuse and verbal assaults are absurd - and way beyond reasonable. Thatâs why I donât actively participate on this forum. Just wanted to toss that out for anyone who cares. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372541 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
yeah where have YOU been? You've been quiet so long I don't have you filtered any more apparently. We'll leave it like that for now and see :) How ya doin? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:37 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: The return of GRUSS!! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote: Very sorry to hear about your medical issues Maureen - as others have said I hope you can stay in the group, I really enjoy hearing your views on things! On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372546 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
I'll put my own name on that list. I'm the dumbest smart person you'll ever meet. I get down right ignorant, quick. On Sep 11, 2014 3:58 PM, CF:_InternetEmail.info h...@internetemail.info wrote: Iâve been a more or less a silent part of this forum since around 98 or 99 if my bad memory recalls correctly. In those years⦠Iâve come to realize - this forum is filled with incredibly bright guys (and gals) who can be very helpful⦠but also - who at times - can be just plain stupid, and / or ignorant⦠as well as often blind to reality. And I understand⦠reality can be subjective. Iâve got 37 years of software development experience⦠and in this group⦠Iâd rather remain silent. Not specifically pointing out one or two people mind you. Thereâs a few of you. For such smart / intelligent people⦠some of you can be really dumb. The abuse and verbal assaults are absurd - and way beyond reasonable. Thatâs why I donât actively participate on this forum. Just wanted to toss that out for anyone who cares. From: Sam sammyc...@gmail.com Reply: cf-community@houseoffusion.com cf-community@houseoffusion.com Date: September 11, 2014 at 2:21:48 PM To: cf-community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Bowing out You're comment makes no sense. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: And Maureen is vindicated On Sep 11, 2014 2:13 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's cute you feel you're qualified to know what open minded means. . On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: I think its cute you think you are open minded. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
been good, thanks for asking! Just decided awhile back to do more listening than talking and it's been working out : ) On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: yeah where have YOU been? You've been quiet so long I don't have you filtered any more apparently. We'll leave it like that for now and see :) How ya doin? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:37 AM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: The return of GRUSS!! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote: Very sorry to hear about your medical issues Maureen - as others have said I hope you can stay in the group, I really enjoy hearing your views on things! On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
You should have a Refuah Shelama (a complete healing). I hope you're just avoiding the political threads rather than bowing out of the list in general. On a related note, I'm rather impressed with our members on the whole. We can and do fight like cats and dogs but I've seen people of opposing viewpoints meet on some issues and have seen people who would kill each other on one issue be able to put it totally aside when the issue wasn't being discussed. I'll point to Eric on this. We're of extremely different viewpoints on a certain subject and can get downright nasty with each other when that subject comes up but any other time we're not only civil but friendly. If he needed me for something I'd be there to the best of my ability without any hesitation. I think that this is a general assessment of the list members as a whole. But yes, some topics are just fodder for hard discussion, have the attractive power of a black hole, and it can be tiring in the extreme. Better to save the energy and heal. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372492 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Bowing out
Exactly...I would do the same. -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Bowing out You should have a Refuah Shelama (a complete healing). I hope you're just avoiding the political threads rather than bowing out of the list in general. On a related note, I'm rather impressed with our members on the whole. We can and do fight like cats and dogs but I've seen people of opposing viewpoints meet on some issues and have seen people who would kill each other on one issue be able to put it totally aside when the issue wasn't being discussed. I'll point to Eric on this. We're of extremely different viewpoints on a certain subject and can get downright nasty with each other when that subject comes up but any other time we're not only civil but friendly. If he needed me for something I'd be there to the best of my ability without any hesitation. I think that this is a general assessment of the list members as a whole. But yes, some topics are just fodder for hard discussion, have the attractive power of a black hole, and it can be tiring in the extreme. Better to save the energy and heal. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372495 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: You should have a Refuah Shelama (a complete healing). I hope you're just avoiding the political threads rather than bowing out of the list in general. I do need healing, as I am past the point where allopathic medicine can do anything for me. Currently suffering with crippling arthritis in my hands, which makes it hard to type or to play my instruments. Also a failing kidney due to a reaction to the contrast agent used during a medical procedure, and a toe with the bones completely crushed. Mostly however, I need work that I can do from home as I am not able to commute very much. I'm doing a lot of data conversions, moving stuff from relational databases to Big Data tools and migrating content from various CMS systems. But I am actively seeking more clients so I can keep food on the table. On a related note, I'm rather impressed with our members on the whole. We can and do fight like cats and dogs but I've seen people of opposing viewpoints meet on some issues and have seen people who would kill each other on one issue be able to put it totally aside when the issue wasn't being discussed. I agree about the list. I have made some very good friends here, including some that I butt heads with over politics on a regular basis. But there a couple of people I've encountered here that I would not willingly break bread with, so my choice to avoid them, and I cannot do that and participate in the political discussions. I will still be onlist, just not reading the political threads. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
And that was meant to be sent directly to Michael, so please ignore it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372498 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Bowing out
Ignored ;-) -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:18 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Bowing out And that was meant to be sent directly to Michael, so please ignore it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372499 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Bowing out
Maureen... I know this discussion has gotten quite contentious. These are serious matters. No one wants to give ground easily and it's difficult to discuss such matters with any clarity and understanding in just a few days. All that aside, I do wish you well. I harbor no ill feelings towards you.4 I hope you find peace and healing from your past traumas. Those kinds of events do fade, but never disappear. Have peace, dear, and know that you will always have friends around. Rick On 9/10/2014 6:18 PM, Maureen wrote: I have extreme views on some issues and I rarely expect people to agree with me on those views. However, it would nice to be able to discuss them without being labeled or attacked. Not sure that will ever happen here, so I'm just going to bow out of the politics. The friendships I have made here are more important to me than having a forum for expressing my political views. I've been dealing with some serious medical issues, I feel very frail and old, and I no longer have the energy to share space - even virtual space - with those whose behavior toward me feels threatening. I guess this means the attack cadre has won the battle for the list. Too bad, because it has been fun sharing ideas and opinions over the years. Love to you all. I will miss (most of) you. Mama Maureen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372503 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: bowing out.
NOo!! How will I live? How will I go on? Knowing I can't read community and see you all riled up?!??!?!??! NOooo sobs ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180278 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Sorry to see you leave MT. Come back soon. larry On 11/8/05, Tangorre, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am signing off of cf-community for a bit getting a lot of work as of late and have to limit my distractions. I will check the digest now and again to see who is acting up :-) Enjoy some non MTAngry time. :-) ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180285 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
Eh, go f*** yourself with a spoon. Shut yer pie hole. [politician of your choice] sucks. --Ben the stand-in Doom Erika L. Walker wrote: NOo!! How will I live? How will I go on? Knowing I can't read community and see you all riled up?!??!?!??! NOooo sobs ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180289 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
mike is just a pussy. he will be back :) love ya mikey. On 11/8/05, Ben Doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh, go f*** yourself with a spoon. Shut yer pie hole. [politician of your choice] sucks. --Ben the stand-in Doom Erika L. Walker wrote: NOo!! How will I live? How will I go on? Knowing I can't read community and see you all riled up?!??!?!??! NOooo sobs ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180296 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
LOL i guess whenever i leave i should drop a note instead of just not showing up for awhile. Though i never unsub..i just never read the mails or look for awhile. Then i'd get a pitty party thrown for me too. Now i feel left out *sniff*. On 11/8/05, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike is just a pussy. he will be back :) love ya mikey. On 11/8/05, Ben Doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh, go f*** yourself with a spoon. Shut yer pie hole. [politician of your choice] sucks. --Ben the stand-in Doom Erika L. Walker wrote: NOo!! How will I live? How will I go on? Knowing I can't read community and see you all riled up?!??!?!??! NOooo sobs ~| Now thereâs a better way to fax. eFax makes it possible to use your existing email account to send and receive faxes. Try eFax free. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=63 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180355 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
I'll throw a party for you... :) LOL i guess whenever i leave i should drop a note instead of just not showing up for awhile. Though i never unsub..i just never read the mails or look for awhile. Then i'd get a pitty party thrown for me too. Now i feel left out *sniff*. On 11/8/05, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180358 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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aww thanks. You're sweet and hot we could have alot of fun together ;) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw a party for you... :) LOL i guess whenever i leave i should drop a note instead of just not showing up for awhile. Though i never unsub..i just never read the mails or look for awhile. Then i'd get a pitty party thrown for me too. Now i feel left out *sniff*. On 11/8/05, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180363 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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And flattery will get you everywhere! aww thanks. You're sweet and hot we could have alot of fun together ;) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180376 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
ok come on down to florida i'll show you a nice time. :) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And flattery will get you everywhere! aww thanks. You're sweet and hot we could have alot of fun together ;) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180411 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok come on down to florida i'll show you a nice time. :) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And flattery will get you everywhere! aww thanks. You're sweet and hot we could have alot of fun together ;) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Protect Your PC from viruses, hackers, spam and more. Buy PC-cillin with Easy Installation Support http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=61 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180416 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Where in Florida are you? ok come on down to florida i'll show you a nice time. :) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Purchase Homesite Plus with Dreamweaver from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=55 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
Didn't we cover this last week? A/S/L everyone. Pronto! - MS -Original Message- From: Jillian Koskie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out. Where in Florida are you? ok come on down to florida i'll show you a nice time. :) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=11 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180423 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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hehe i'll show you a good time too come here...it will only hurt for a few days... On 11/8/05, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok come on down to florida i'll show you a nice time. :) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And flattery will get you everywhere! aww thanks. You're sweet and hot we could have alot of fun together ;) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| All-in-one: antivirus, antispam, firewall for your PC and PDA. Buy Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=60 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180430 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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South Florida, Coral Springs in Broward County. I can show you all the fun places with no power still lol. On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where in Florida are you? ok come on down to florida i'll show you a nice time. :) On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180431 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180432 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
I see what you are doing there, this is some sort of innuendo, isn't it? Sicko, Pervert. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe i'll show you a good time too come here...it will only hurt for a few days... On 11/8/05, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180434 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180437 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
Nobody has seen me in a cheerleader outfit since... uhm... highschool. heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180438 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
yeah, me neither On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody has seen me in a cheerleader outfit since... uhm... highschool. heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180439 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
GAK! Tony wrote: here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180440 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
OK.. . please tell me that's not a real link. I haven't clicked it, but I'm sure it's either fake or NSFW. - MS -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out. here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Purchase Dreamweaver with Homesite Plus from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=54 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
OK.. . please tell me that's not a real link. I haven't clicked it, but I'm sure it's either fake or NSFW. - MS No and Yes -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180444 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
Same here. I don't even have pics - only my mom does. And, it's gonna stay that way. On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody has seen me in a cheerleader outfit since... uhm... highschool. heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180445 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
Oh why can't the list have gone quiet again BEFORE I saw that? On 11/8/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GAK! Tony wrote: here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg ~| Purchase Studio MX with Flash Pro from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=51 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180446 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
If you want to claw your eyes out with a fork, feel free to click the link. Not only is it NSFW, it is just plain NS! On 11/8/05, MS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK.. . please tell me that's not a real link. I haven't clicked it, but I'm sure it's either fake or NSFW. - MS -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out. here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180447 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
Ever hold a really full water balloon by the tied end? Okay, now think of the U-G-L-iest chick you can think of. Then drape a cheerleader over her and you've got all the tools you need to get the correct visual. :::shudder MS wrote: OK.. . please tell me that's not a real link. I haven't clicked it, but I'm sure it's either fake or NSFW. - MS -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out. here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180449 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out.
it's a real link. On 11/8/05, MS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK.. . please tell me that's not a real link. I haven't clicked it, but I'm sure it's either fake or NSFW. - MS -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: [QUARRANTINE] RE: bowing out. here's me in a cheerleader outfit... im dead sexy dontcha know http://www.bbw-porn.net/16126/p14.jpg On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh i still havent seen you in a cheerleader outfit :( On 11/8/05, Jillian Koskie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps if you put on a cheerleader outfit? That seemed to work for me. what gives? i've been in FL since Jan and you haven't shown me a...oooh wait. i get it. yeah, nevermind. On 11/8/05, Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180459 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
