Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Judith- Reube's reply went to CF-Jobs, I redirected mine to CF-Jobs-Talk when I made my reply. -Cameron On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the original post went to CF-Jobs, while the replies went to CF-Jobs-Talk. I believe Michael's code does that automatically... When a discussion starts on a thread on CF-Jobs, it moves it over to CF-Jobs-Talk. I have to double-check that with Michael, however ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3920 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
I agree fully. Unfortunately, we have people posting jobs who aren't knowledgeable enough to post their contact info in their posts (and are still getting replies from those of us who deal with it as an email list, so there is no motivation for them to change). If Judith and Michael want to fix this (I would figure it would be pretty easy to do), that's up to them. It would makes things on the forum side a little clearer though. :) Vicky wrote: Judith... Far as I'm concerned, someone posting a position should be professional and include some manner of contact info within the body of the post. The *one* email generated per such thread asking for further contact info doesn't warrant you or Michael going out of your way to fix this issue in addition to the many responsibilities you already have. You're too kind. :) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. So a generic reply button on the forum side would be served by saying Reply to sender instead of a generic reply button. Suggestion noted. :) I have no idea if Michael set up the same thing on the forums side, actually. I'll have him look at this when he has a moment and we'll decide the best way to go. Thanks for the feedback. Judith ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3930 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Just to throw my two cents worth in... I'd like to see a step further, where jobs are posted to the list via a form, which would include: Contact Info (Name, email, company, phone numbers, website), Job description, Work location, Onsite/Offsite/Telecommute, Contract/Direct/Temp, W-2/1099, Rate/Salary, H1-B/No H1-B This would answer a lot of questions for me off the bat, especially when it's an out of town gig that they want me to pack up and move for. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Vicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:24 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites Judith... Far as I'm concerned, someone posting a position should be professional and include some manner of contact info within the body of the post. The *one* email generated per such thread asking for further contact info doesn't warrant you or Michael going out of your way to fix this issue in addition to the many responsibilities you already have. You're too kind. :) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. So a generic reply button on the forum side would be served by saying Reply to sender instead of a generic reply button. Suggestion noted. :) I have no idea if Michael set up the same thing on the forums side, actually. I'll have him look at this when he has a moment and we'll decide the best way to go. Thanks for the feedback. Judith ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3932 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Seconded. This would help greatly with the filtering out of jobs that I could do and those I can't. Scott Stewart wrote: I'd like to see a step further, where jobs are posted to the list via a form ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3933 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Since there is a change of venue for the massage, is there an alert message to the poster as to where the message ended up posted to? William Seiter (mobile) Have you ever read a book that changed your life? go to: http://www.winninginthemargins.com and use passcode: GoldenGrove -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Jobs-Talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: 7/30/2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites As for it being bad, as a user, figure that I'm seeing these posts on a forum and I am reading the cf-jobs threads. If I click on reply, I would want it to go to the email of that user (or private message him or what have you ). I wouldn't want it to go to a different thread because then, after I reply, I wouldn't see the post and figure it didn't take, so I'd post again. All I'm saying is that if you click reply on a forum, it shouldn't reply to a different thread. That just seems wrong to me. Right - but it's the question of the purpose of the list. CF-Jobs is an exception to the rule here. It's not a discussion board. It has one purpose only: To post jobs or to post that you're available for hire. That's it. So theoretically, you'd be there for one purpose only - to respond to a specific job offer, or to post your specific request. The forum is really an archive of the mailing list posts, and some people prefer reading the job offers on the archive rather than getting them through email. So if you need to respond to a specific ad, or a request for hire, it would make sense to have your reply go to the person who made it, no? And if you need to discuss an issue having to do with finding a job, or the job market, or ColdFusion in the marketplace, than CF-Jobs-Talk is the place to go. Judith ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3935 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:33 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Judith... Far as I'm concerned, someone posting a position should be professional and include some manner of contact info within the body of the post. The *one* email generated per such thread asking for further contact info doesn't warrant you or Michael going out of your way to fix this issue in addition to the many responsibilities you already have. You're too kind. :) I'll step in and defend the logic and time that was taken for them to be too kind... I'm saying the time they took already to set it up the way it is appears to be fine from my end. Apparently, I'm not seeing the same thing others are. I was saying to deal with this any further would be too kind. The amt of email generated asking for further contact info: 1. Amt of email generated to fix the issue: 20. (Granted, it's on the talk list, so I'm not complaining... just saying...) The mere fact that they host this list is, imo, kind. It appeared to me she was having to go above and beyond the call of duty to protect ppl who either need to post better contact info or pay attention to what they're doing. If, in fact, some ppl hit reply... see the poster's email addie... and yet somehow unknowingly post to the list, then that's obviously a different issue and I stand corrected. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Or some people like myself, get the digest therefore you can't reply to the individual person. FYI :) Ahhh... I see. Sounds like MD should/could unmask emails for the CF-Jobs list... -Cameron Cameron, Some people read these in the forum through their browser, and there, if you 'reply', you are replying to the 'post' and your reply will go to the list, not the original sender. Some also read in digest mode, so it is definitely a requirement to post your contact e-mail if you want EVERYONE to be able to respond. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
That is an issue we still have to solve. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Kelly Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or some people like myself, get the digest therefore you can't reply to the individual person. FYI :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3941 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
RE: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
I'm sure if such a feature were implemented, mike would have the sense to make it clear where the message was going. If you cliked 'Reply' on the website for a job posting and saw 'This message will be emailed directly to the author of this post' then you submitted it and saw a message that said... 'Your message has been emailed to the author...etc...' I would hope you'd know where it went by that point and not resubmit it. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:37 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites I just went through a few recent mails on the cf-jobs list and replied to them. All of them went to the author. I even went to that one we are talking about and got Eric Ranelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the replyto address. The issue came up when someone posted that no email address was on the list when it was on the forums. They replied on cf-jobs-talk. Which doesn't make much sense IMHO. As for it being bad, as a user, figure that I'm seeing these posts on a forum and I am reading the cf-jobs threads. If I click on reply, I would want it to go to the email of that user (or private message him or what have you ). I wouldn't want it to go to a different thread because then, after I reply, I wouldn't see the post and figure it didn't take, so I'd post again. All I'm saying is that if you click reply on a forum, it shouldn't reply to a different thread. That just seems wrong to me. and tactful isn't my strong suit. I am sorry if anyone was offended. Bobby Hartsfield wrote: Tactful as usual... and no... it would not be bad to do that on cf-jobs because its title is what it is... if you want to start a discussion on a list, bring it to cf-jobs-talk. All replies on cf-jobs should go to the author or just as Judith said... automatically come here instead. It would only be 'bad' for trolls such as... nevermind. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:07 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites That would be bad... Is that how your forum software works? If I hit reply on a forum, I would want it to go to the thread I was replying to. Not a private email. Perhaps you meant a reply to poster button? As for the list, cf-jobs does that. cf-jobs-talk (this one) doesn't because it's made for discussions. The people posting jobs on this list are actually posting to the wrong list. So it's an PebCak error. Bobby Hartsfield wrote: Or he could just make all replies on cf-jobs go to the author rather than the list... even on the web form. Seems like he was talking about doing that a while back. Guess he got side tracked. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Vicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:17 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites Ditto that. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Maureen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this case, even sending resumes to the email of sender is eliciting no response, so the request for contact info was valid. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh... I see. Sounds like MD should/could unmask emails for the CF-Jobs list... -Cameron On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cameron, Some people read these in the forum through their browser, and there, if you 'reply', you are replying to the 'post' and your reply will go to the list, not the original sender. Some also read in digest mode, so it is definitely a requirement to post your contact e-mail if you want EVERYONE to be able to respond. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
