Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Reube Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am interested in your post, but there is no contact information supplied. > Could > you please post your contact information? Again? Really? Hitting reply defaults to the sender's contact email. What am I missing? Really? I mean... Really? -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3912 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Ahhh... I see. Sounds like MD should/could unmask emails for the CF-Jobs list... -Cameron On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron, > > Some people read these in the forum through their browser, and there, if you > 'reply', you are replying to the 'post' and your reply will go to the list, > not the original sender. > > Some also read in digest mode, so it is definitely a requirement to post > your contact e-mail if you want EVERYONE to be able to respond. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3914 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
Judith- Reube's reply went to CF-Jobs, I redirected mine to CF-Jobs-Talk when I made my reply. -Cameron On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, the original post went to CF-Jobs, while the replies went to > CF-Jobs-Talk. I believe Michael's code does that automatically... > When a discussion starts on a thread on CF-Jobs, it moves it over to > CF-Jobs-Talk. I have to double-check that with Michael, however ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3920 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF programmer with experience building Social networking sites
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Right. So a generic "reply" button on the forum side would be served by >> saying "Reply to sender" instead of a generic reply button. > > Suggestion noted. :) I have no idea if Michael set up the same thing > on the forums side, actually. I'll have him look at this when he has a > moment and we'll decide the best way to go. Thanks for the feedback. This solution does seem to make the most sense. -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3928 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: part ownership versus consulting rate
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Development House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking at a development opportunity that will offer part ownership of > the company in lieu or a consulting rate, which will also include drawing a > salary once the project goes live and generates an income stream. > > I would really be interested in hearing from anyone who has pursued this > route and your experiences and recommendations, as well as anyone else on > the list with any thoughts. In my opinion, unless you have direct influence over the success of the company, ownership in it isn't worth sacrificing salary. If you don't have any control, and the idea is really worthwhile - it should be able to obtain the funding required to pay you a fair rate. Generally, its a good idea to draw a salary that covers your pay expectations and consider anything more than that just an imaginary thing till it comes through. Equally, if you do accept ownership in lieu of pay you should consider any expected pay raises an imaginary thing - they may never happen. -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3948 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: part ownership versus consulting rate
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you confident that this is a viable money maker? If so, make sure > you get everything in writing and have an attorney review it for you. > Don't trust the others to do right by you, even if they are friends. > (this is especially true if the company you are dealing with is in Atlanta) Note to self: make sure to Maureen sometime for the backstory on this comment. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there?
The CF-Jobs list is probably the most focused location to post the gig for people who participate actively in "the CF community". Many ColdFusion User groups will also posts jobs to their membership. Michael would probably know if that exists in NYC. There is a whole other group of developers out there (alot are corporate drones) who don't really participate in the community. Those people you'll find mainly at places like monster and the other big job boards. -Cameron On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:31 PM, carl starm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to hire a cold fusion/sql pro shortly for NYC. > > Our preference is for someone to work at our location in NYC. > > I'll post the job here, but I was wondering what other places I should post > this job to. > > I want to choose the best person for the job and would like to interview a > few people. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3985 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF Software Engineer
Spam. On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Phillip Senn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> About me: I'm honest and hard working. Someone who enjoys working a >> lot. >> >> I am looking for telecommute positions. > Have you considered hosting web sites on your own? > Here's an example of a company charging up to $200 per page: > http://www.passoftware.com/design1.html > > And this site: > http://clubsitethatworks.com/ > charges "$250 for first year". > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:4003 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Best ways to find projects
Anirudh- Replying directly to the job poster is preferred over replying to the entire group. Thanks. -Cameron On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Anirudh Apsingekar wrote: > Ravi and Everyone, > > Thanks for all the inputs and knowledge sharing.I really liked the way people > express their views here even i am one of those like other people out there > in Sales and Business Development.I always love to meet new people and > understand what every one is talking which helps in me in the growth of my > career. > > to be honest i joined browse this to find some new opportunities or projects > after seeing this discussion i felt that's not all i want to build my network > which gives me more knowledge. I follow one thing Knowledge is the prime > factor and working honestly with commitment after all this, money flows by > its own means. > > Regards, > Anirudh. > Evoke Technologies. > anir...@evoketechnologies.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Looking for script like Etsy.
While you are at it, maybe you could find something that does everything Google does, only for free. Wow, why didn't I think of that? Sorry - couldn't resist. -Cameron On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM, NUGROHO NOTO wrote: > > Thanks for all the response. > As somebody said in his response "you need a full blow application that can > track inventory, manage multiple categories, checkout, user registration, > reporting, and some other administration etc". > > YES... I need those full capabilities. > If somebody knows there is already package which near those above > requirements... which we can buy and we allow to modify (rather than build > from scratch ... to save time) Please let me know. > > We have time to wait till end of April / mid may.. if we still cannot find... > then we will find a company (or freelancer) who can build from scratch. > I believe this will be a long term job, since we need maintenance and > modifications on the way. > > Note: > we don't need the content.. we can write the content ourselves. > we just need the functions. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Is the Atlanta ColdFusion users group still active?
Mike- It's still active. We were floating around looking for new meeting space for a couple of months and then this last weekend John Mason, who runs the group, broke his ankle. So there have been some, um, breakdowns and breaklegs. The details of the meeting are being worked out among the board right now, but I think the current plan is to have a meeting this month. This coming Wed would be the usual meeting date so it will be short notice. Don't hold me to it, but I think Josh Adams from Adobe will be presenting. -Cameron On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:08 PM, mftr...@att.net wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was just wondering if the Atlanta CF Users Group was still active. I still > see the site up but no monthly meeting scheduled. Thanks in advance for any > help! > > MI ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4420 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is the Atlanta ColdFusion users group still active?
Mike- Nevermind. Looks like this month's meeting is canceled. For the record, not Josh's fault (thought I would say that since I tossed his name out there before the meeting was finalized). Look for a meeting in March instead. -Cameron On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > It's still active. We were floating around looking for new meeting > space for a couple of months and then this last weekend John Mason, > who runs the group, broke his ankle. So there have been some, um, > breakdowns and breaklegs. > > The details of the meeting are being worked out among the board right > now, but I think the current plan is to have a meeting this month. > This coming Wed would be the usual meeting date so it will be short > notice. Don't hold me to it, but I think Josh Adams from Adobe will > be presenti ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4421 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ideas on additional resources to use in job search
Lesson ignored. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Maureen wrote: > Bluntly..stop begging for a job. Your frequent postings over the > years have alienated any prospective employer who reads them. And > your current bout of sarcasm and criticism of posters on the CF-TALK > list isn't buying you any friends either. You need to take a long > hard look at unprofessional your behavior on these lists are, because > if you continue in your current path, you will never find work in the > CF ar ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4422 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: this conversation about mediaspa
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > Mike, respectfully, NOBODY has said anything about Cameron's posts > earlier today (he posted to both CF-Talk and CF-Jobs-Talk). For the record, that was Christian posting about MediaSpa, not me. I did respond to Mike's email about whether the Atlanta CFUG was having a meeting this month or not (we are not). I'm not sure that "The Firthman" has ever come to one of our ACFUG meetings, but I do very much look forward to the opportunity to meet such a colorful personality face to face. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFDeveloper.com
Brian- I applaud your efforts in passing along opportunities, but if you are going to build a bot to push these out I'd suggest the following to curb it's enthusiasm. - Only post new jobs as they become available, assume people have seen the old ones already. - Do not post the same job more than once, this list has an archive -Cameron On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Brian Thornton wrote: > > Rob- > > There's nothing going on twitter. Jobs I don't bid on I pass along. > What are you talking about? > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM, RobG wrote: >> >> Yes. I've blocked him on Twitter because he's doing the same crap there >> too. I'm about to setup an email filter as well. >> >> >> >> From: OSS >> To: cf-jobs >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:45 PM >> Subject: CFDeveloper.com >> >> >> Is anyone else receiving these jobs 400 times each? =( >> >> Thank you, >> Beau J. Gould >> -- >> Open Source Staffing >> http://opensourcestaffing.wordpress.com >> opensourcestaffing|AT|gmail.com >> Follow me @ossjobs - New jobs posted daily. Full time, contract and >> telecommute. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: cfdeveloper@cfdeveloper.com >> [mailto:cfdeveloper@cfdeveloper.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:31 PM >> To: cf-jobs >> Subject: (JOB) Front-End Developer (Pioneer Square) Seattle,WA >> >> >> FROM http://www.CFDeveloper.com >> >> Please see http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/web/2876095945.html for this >> job posting. >> >> >> Our creative agency is in search of a talented web developer to assist with >> projects on a contract basis, with opportunities for expansion. You will >> work directly with an interactive producer and creative team to transform >> concepts into beautiful, fully-functional websites, e-mails, banners and >> other digital environments. Required Skills: Expansive >> knowledge of current web technologies, their capabilities, and >> advantages/disadvantages of each Strong working knowledge of both >> W3C-valid (X)HTML and table-based layouts/HTML e-mails, CSS, JavaScript, and >> CMS integration (Drupal or Wordpress) Proficiency working in Adobe >> Creative Suite, preparing images for web-ready distribution Solid >> understanding of SEO best practices Solid understanding of social media >> technologies and integrating with their APIs Preferred Skills: >> Knowledge of HTML5 and CSS3 Knowledge of AJAX web development >> Knowledge of SQL or other web database technologies Knowledge of other >> cross-platform server-side scripting/programming languages for web >> application development (PHP, Perl, Python, Ruby on Rails, Java, ColdFusion) >> and database integration Knowledge of other CMS packages (Joomla, >> ExpressionEngine) Knowledge of mobile web development (Mobile >> Safari/Android, Blackberry Browser) Experience with web advertising >> platforms such as Google AdSense, Google AdWords Skills with Adobe Flash >> and/or ActionScript This is a contract-to-hire position. >> Applicants should submit their resume and portfolio. This position will >> close on March 15th, 2012. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4506 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Can I ask why this place has been taken over by Brian Thornton aka CFDeveloper
If I were to make a recommendation it would be to batch the CFDeveloper jobs postings as a daily digest. I also have noticed a recruiter or two (Lina Danes/Pramod Dubey) posting the exact same job over and over daily. It wouldn't suck for them to stop doing that too... -Cameron On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > These are legitimate jobs however. It appears that Brian has written > an app that goes through Craigslist looking for CF related jobs. That > would be a community service if you ask me. > > BTW jerry, lets keep this confined to cf-jobs-talk and not clutter up > cf-jobs. > > regards, > > larry ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4521 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Job sites
http://computerjobs.com -Cameron - Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc. --- cell: 678.637.5072 land: 858.509.3098 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 5:30 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Job sites I'm updating the resource section on HoF with new job sites. Does anyone have some good ones (other than the standards listed) to add? Thanks http://www.houseoffusion.com/resources/index.cfm/method=Jobs -- Michael Dinowitz Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Recent Posts from CFJOBS
Looks like someone's created a robot to post jobs to the list. Not a bad idea IMHO - as long as they're not repeats. One suggestion - adding the location in the subject line of all the messages would be very usefull for people looking for jobs near them. I see that locations are in some of them, but not all... -Cameron ----- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc. --- land: 858.509.3098 cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Verbal or Written Estimates
It's also possible they are using this information to compare your services to someone else's. I would respond with a time frame and estimate with accuracy and completeness equal to their current spec. IF they have a vague spec, then you should respond with a vague answer, and I would typically do this in email. A response I'd typically make to a request like this would be something like "It will be difficult to pin down exact numbers until we pin down the scope of the project a little better. Having said that, projects like this typically take around 20 to 35 weeks at a cost of $100,000 to $150,000." This is a "ballpark" timeframe and cost, which is all they asked for, and gives you some wiggle room later on. -Cameron - Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc --- land: 858.509.3098 cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:36 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Verbal or Written Estimates A client was pushing me into a ballpark time-frame and estimate using a half-written spec (they provided, not myself). They made the request via email. Is it better to respond via email or verbally over the phone? Discuss amongst yourselves. I understand the written word can be powerful; but I'm sure it will be used against me 3 months down the line when they try to scope creep a cure for cancer into their project. They sent the request around 8 o'clock last night. Knowing I would be off site today, I'm not sure if they were using sly negotiating tactics to try to push me in a corner or if they are just busy and disorganized. ( At this point, I could go either way ) -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer -- AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: Recording Music: Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Fluffy Bananachunks
Mr Bananachunks does in fact live in Atlanta Ga. He's a CF guy, and also very active in the hiptop forums (as previously mentioned). He hangs out at the ACFUG meetings and participates on the ACFUG email lists quite a bit. Yes, he is a real person, and the job he posted is a legitimate job (though I suspect the darts and bass playing may be optional). :) -Cameron - Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- land: 858.509.3098 cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:50 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Fluffy Bananachunks At 10:51 AM 4/16/2004, you wrote: >I think the hippie one was the one mentioning dart throwing and being able >to hit the board, not the secretary. It is possible the dart board one got used twice, I guess, but the most recent "dart board one" made no reference to Hippies or Irish. The post was for Atlanta ( Presumably Georgia? ) I had no idea Fluffy Bannanachunks was a contributor. I still think its a hilarious name. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer -- AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: Recording Music: Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: REALLY annoyed with this site
Wow, I do feel bad for what has happened to you. I would encourage you to post from the email address you want the email to appear "from". I see that even now you are posting it from a hotmail account containing a first and last name. -Cameron On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:05:45 -0400, Me Myself <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, I'm unbelievably angry that House of Fusion used my work email address > in my recent posting to this list. > > I specifically changed my email address to a personal one before signing up > for this list. It's ironic that HOF cannot code their site properly so that > my change took effect for the email list (though I do see the changed email > address in the account settings). > > PLEASE DO NOT use my NASA address for correspondence. I am unsubscribing to > this list now. Please send any correspondence to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2123 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What a crappy site
Cynthia, I feel your pain and understand how embarasing this situation must be for you. You certainly aren't the first person to make a mistake and accidentally send an email to someone or in a way they didn't intend. I even recall someone years ago (MN) posting his personal credit card information to the list. However, I would encourage you to direct your frustration away from the list. There are alot of people subscribed to this email list and if you didn't raise a red flag before - for your co-workers and employer to see - and to be archived on Google forever for future co-workers and employers to see - you are certainly doing so now. All of us have a bad day every now and then. Take a deep breath, unsubscribe if you feel the need, and take a walk / cold shower / hot bath / whatever will make you feel better. -Cameron On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:18:01 -0400, sdfgsdfg sdfgsdfg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I have signed up to this email list again just so I can post this to the > list, > since a staff member of House of Fusion has posted on this issue. > > > The email address you sign up with is the address your allowed to postr > > with. The email address you post with it carried on for the message sent > out > > to the list. Your email address/name/whatever is not replaced. If you > posted > > with a nasa address then that is what was sent to the list. If you posted > > with a verizon address, that would be the one posted to the list. > > > > I signed up for HouseofFusion a long time ago with that address. I never > subscribed to an email list. Today, I went in and changed my email address in > my account settings, apparently successfully, THEN subscribed to two lists, > and then posted. The new email address I had entered, that so clearly showed > in my account settings, should have been used to post to the list. > > What is the point of allowing users to change their email address if you are > going to insist on using their old one when they post to a list? > > I must say that for a site that purports to help ColdFusion users in their > craft, this site is done extremely poorly. I'm especially amused by the > loading of the navigation frames within the navigation frames after signing > up -- lovely touch. > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2132 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Indian code
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:30:03 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The response? A request to tutor the outsource programmer to bring them up to > par. I see this as a classic case of "you get what you pay for". If you want to be able to pay wages that are equivilant to a first month programmer, you are going to have to be willing to accept sub-par code. Once this programmer has skill and experience the pay rate will almost certainly go up. Then the company will say "Wow, that guy's overpriced now", and switch to a cheaper, lesser skilled developer who writes code like a first month programmer. In the end they will wonder why the program doesn't work right. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2262 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: DC Jobs - What the...
> Based on the previous topic and the fact the Atlanta CF job market leaves > much to be desired, I realise that I am jumping into this late and may be missing some context here, but in my experience the Atlanta CF job market is one of the best ones in the country. I've known alot of CF developers in Atlanta, and they all have been able to find good steady work. I also lived and worked there as a CF developer for many years. -Cameron On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:29:07 -0400, K Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Based on the previous topic and the fact the Atlanta CF job market leaves > much to be desired, I invite any and all DC based companies to post or send > me available job opps. I am a very experienced CF'er along with many other > web related skill sets, and I would consider moving to DC if I could find the > right opportunity. > > Seems to me many jobs I see in DC or VI require a security clearance which i > don't have and I would guess the type of job that is not much fun, being > government type work. Could be wrong but let us know. > > Not being from DC I would like to know what you DC'ers thought about the area > like what is a good, central, accessable, interesting, affordable, fun, etc.. > place to work and live. Not the far out subburbs and prob not downtown, but a > happy medium and what to look for in that town in terms of good (living > conditions, etc) vs bad (traffic, crime). > > In essence, what the hell is going on in DC with CF work these days and > should the rest of us want to be there? > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2265 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Non Disclosure Agreements
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:18 -0500, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From a recent post on cf-jobs: > > Anyone who refuses to work under a Non-Disclosure Agreement need not apply. Taken totally out of context, I'd usually translate soemthing like this as "Our company is run by a buncha stodgy CPAs and Lawyers. If you like so much red tape that it's impossible to get anything done, come work for us." Of course, with context it could mean something entirely different to me. There are several very valid reasons for this to be a requirement for a job. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2332 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga
Atlanta has always been a great market for skilled developers. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:54:42 -0500, Burchett, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Mike: > > I am biased but Aquent is a good firm in Atlanta. You should ask for a > recruiter named Becky Grams. She is very good and if they have anything in > the way of ColdFusion she will be able to get you in for it. To be honest I > don't know what the market is for CF in ATL but if there is anything to be > found, she will do her best to find it. > > Regards, > Mike Burchett > _ > Mike Burchett > Charlotte Branch Manager | AQUENT > 2815 Coliseum Centre Drive, Suite 230 | Charlotte, NC 28217 | 704.338.9119 > X3015 800.479.9119 Toll Free 704.338.9185 Fax | <http://www.aquent.com/> > Aquent is a global professional services firm that integrates people, > process and technology to deliver business results through staffing, > outsourcing and consulting > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Firth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:07 PM > To: CF-Jobs-Talk > Subject: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga > > Hi all, > > I just wanted to find out from everybody who works in atlanta, ga what firms > have you found in helping you find a good job in atlanta ga, because I am > moving back within the next few days. > > I also using the top search jobs to assist in my search. Been a while away > from atlanta so if anybody can offer any advice greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Mike Firth > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2341 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga
Born n raised in the good ole A-T-L., (co)founded the Atlanta ColdFusion User Group, and worked in Atlanta as a ColdFusion developer for various companies since v1.5. There is a metric ton of CF jobs in Atlanta. I moved to San Diego one and a half years ago, so it might have changed a little since then, but not by that much. I've been keeping tabs on things via the ACFUG lists. The best CF job resource in Atlanta I've ever seen is the Atlanta ColdFusion User Group. Of course, my level of involvement in the group makes me a little biased, but a great many of the (skilled) developers I know in Atl have pretty easily maintained steady employment by participating in the ACFUG and via contacts made there. Firhman, I know you've been on the ACFUG list before, so you should know all about it. Join the list and participate (by doing more than just by posting "I need a job" messages every week) and people will learn your skill level and hire you accordingly. Like any networking venue, you have to participate steadily and historically for it to work properly. But it works great. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:54:20 -0500, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hmm, I usually peek at > http://www.atlanta.computerjobs.com/job_results.aspx?s_jcid=106&s_jsid=267 > for how the CF market is in ATL, not so good looking lately. Are > there other job sites with better info? > > Cameron, you are in ATL? Didn't know they allowed sumo in the good > old boy country GA! hehe! > > D > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:56:39 -0800, Cameron Childress > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Atlanta has always been a great market for skilled developers. > > > > -Cameron > > > > -- > > Cameron Childress > > Sumo Consulting Inc > > http://www.sumoc.com > > --- > > cell: 678.637.5072 > > aim: cameroncf > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:54:42 -0500, Burchett, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Hello Mike: > > > > > > I am biased but Aquent is a good firm in Atlanta. You should ask for a > > > recruiter named Becky Grams. She is very good and if they have anything > > > in > > > the way of ColdFusion she will be able to get you in for it. To be > > > honest I > > > don't know what the market is for CF in ATL but if there is anything to be > > > found, she will do her best to find it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Mike Burchett > > > _ > > > Mike Burchett > > > Charlotte Branch Manager | AQUENT > > > 2815 Coliseum Centre Drive, Suite 230 | Charlotte, NC 28217 | 704.338.9119 > > > X3015 800.479.9119 Toll Free 704.338.9185 Fax | <http://www.aquent.com/> > > > Aquent is a global professional services firm that integrates people, > > > process and technology to deliver business results through staffing, > > > outsourcing and consulting > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Michael Firth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:07 PM > > > To: CF-Jobs-Talk > > > Subject: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just wanted to find out from everybody who works in atlanta, ga what > > > firms > > > have you found in helping you find a good job in atlanta ga, because I am > > > moving back within the next few days. > > > > > > I also using the top search jobs to assist in my search. Been a while > > > away > > > from atlanta so if anybody can offer any advice greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike Firth > > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2361 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:43:39 -0500, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > interesting, San Diego has to be better weather, but housing must be > out of sight! It ain't cheap. They call it sunshine tax. > Been here in ATL 5 years now and keep saying I need to get involved > with teh cfug, yeah, bad me. I do hang on cf-talk mucho though. IMHO, the jobs you see on Monster and find through recruiters are usually like looking for a needle in a haystack. Lots of junk, very little value (though sometimes you can find some). Most of the best jobs are never posted to a job board or given to a recruiter, so if you depend on those, you may not find much of value out there. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2377 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfusion MX6.1 Project at Sacramento, CA $7000/month
On Apr 7, 2005 8:17 AM, Rajesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WOW Corporation, LLC | > A Certified Women Business Enterprise I didn't even know there was a Certification or an "Enterprise" version. I'll have to start asking prospective dates about their certification staus. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2387 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: which one of these things is not like the other...
On Apr 7, 2005 8:37 PM, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just took an online test for ColdFusion 5 (I didn't realize when I > talked to the recruiter that it would be CF5 and not MX or later). I > have to say, the Modis test for CF5 is one of the worst tests I've > seen. I've heard that from other people too. Many recruiters want you to take some test to prove your worth and the test is so fatally flawed that it's not really testing anything but an applicant's willingness to jump through hoops. This is one of many reasons that recruiters are looked at negatively. I would also look at this as an indicator of poorly run shop which you probably don't want to work for anyways. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2391 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: which one of these things is not like the other...
The best answer to most of these questions is "livedocs". A good developer knows how to solve problems and find answers, not how to memorize every useless little attribute of every tag in the book. I'll hire someone how participates in the community and knows how to find the answer before someone who's memorised a book any day of the week. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 8, 2005 3:10 PM, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One question from one of these exams that I took sticks out in my mind > > "How many valid values are there for the action attribute of cfdirectory." > a) one > b) two > c) three > d) four > e) five > > (that was the gist of the question, although I may have the wrong tag). > How this tests my "real-world" skills I have no idea. > > > At 05:53 PM 4/8/2005, you wrote: > >Sounds like Robert Half technologies exame...It was littered with > >CFgrid questions as well as questions like whats the default value for > >XXX in cf administrator...The one I took for my current position was > >actually very good I can't remember where it was though :( I do know I > >placed in the top 5% though I don't remeber any mistakes...I do > >remeber a mistake or 2 in the one from RHT. > > > >Adam H > > > >On Apr 8, 2005 3:24 PM, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I took a test in February of 2004 in PHP and CFML. I scored a mid-80's > > > on the PHP and a low 70's in the CFML. The reason for this was that the > > > CFML test used CFGRID a good deal, and I'd never used this tag as it > > > wasn't in the book I used to learn CFML X-) Go figure. > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2401 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: which one of these things is not like the other...
On Apr 8, 2005 4:42 PM, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am so glad to hear you say that! I feel it is more valuable to know where > to find the answer and how to apply that knowledge. Anyone can memorize but > can you apply that knowledge? Indeed. During an interview I try to ask questions like "What's the difference between the client and session scope?". An expereinced developer will know, and a less expereinced one will not. Open ended questions are a far better measure of someone's abilities. I also tend to ask alot of questions about where you go for answers, what was the last really hard problem they solved, and how did they solve it... Of course, recruiters rarely are knowledgable enough to evaluate answers to those questions... Which is why I never use recruiters to hire developers. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2404 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
How long is a piece of string?
I have to say that all this talk about low and high level programmers kinda irks me. IMHO, there is no simple test you can give to tell what level a developer is at. In the end it's all relative to the judge's (your) skill level after all isn't it? >From Paul Graham's (excellent) Essay "Great Hackers" http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html "Because you can't tell a great hacker except by working with him, hackers themselves can't tell how good they are. This is true to a degree in most fields. I've found that people who are great at something are not so much convinced of their own greatness as mystified at why everyone else seems so incompetent. But it's particularly hard for hackers to know how good they are, because it's hard to compare their work. This is easier in most other fields. In the hundred meters, you know in 10 seconds who's fastest. Even in math there seems to be a general consensus about which problems are hard to solve, and what constitutes a good solution. But hacking is like writing. Who can say which of two novels is better? Certainly not the authors." -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2628 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 3289: ColdFusion Requirement, Sacramento, CA, Opening: 15 @$7000/Month
On 5/18/05, Rajesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Resumes will be sent as they come in and throughout the ENTIRE auction. Auction? -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2631 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cold Fusion Job Resources
I'd also try finding and getting involved in your local CFUG. Many (most?) of the best jobs are never posted to a job board, and the contacts you make at a CFUG will lead you to those jobs. -Cameron On 6/10/05, Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I don't seem to find a list of sites that are good resources for finding Cold > Fusion work and wondering if anyone would like to contribute their list to > this thread. I'll start out with some of the basic ones I've found several > on: > > http://www.CareerBuilder.com > http://www.Monster.com > http://JustColdFusionJobs.com > > Also, I'm wondering if anyone has ever come across a 'master' job agent -- in > other words, a job agent that you can specify keywords and it finds jobs on > multiple sites (instead of registering with 20 separate job agents). > > Thanks! > > Dave > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2673 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
Rob, I've definitely seen an increase over the past year or so. I don't think it's just started in 2006. I have several job "agents" setup in Monster and other sites to notify me of jobs in certain areas, and they have been steadily increasing for some time now. In fact, I know anecdotally that it's been hard to even find and hire CF developers in certain areas of the US. I think the market is very healthy right now and has been for a year or so. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/5/06, Robert Reno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like I have been getting double the usual calls for CF openings in > Florida. Has anyone else noticed more calls where you are? I even had two > direct calls from companies hiring in addition to the recruiters calling. > > Rob in Tampa ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2808 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
On 1/5/06, Jeff Gombala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't noticed more postings, other than my own, but I do know from > experience that there aren't many (if any) qualified developers avaliable for > hire in the Atlanta area. Who knows, I might have posted in all the wrong > areas. Atlanta's a tight market. Alot of good people there, but also a ton of CF work to be done. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2811 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
On 1/11/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IT no longer seems to be a field where people are ecstatic about it and > want to live and breath IT 24/7. Some people just want to do there job and > go home. There are always exceptions, of course, but they seem to be > exceptions rather than the norm. I think there are just two groups/types of developers now. Developers who do it cause they love it and developers who are just punching a timeclock. The folks who love it stay on top of trends, learn new things constantly and participate int he community. The folks who are just punching a timeclock just do what they know how to do and don't really strive to learn more unless it's shoved down their throat. I see ALOT of the timeclock punchers on the corporate side and a few of the "love it" developers. On the agency/consulting side I see alot more "love it" people and fewer timeclock punchers. -Cameron On 1/11/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've found that a lot of people get "deep" into one area of CF without > getting a lot of "Breadth" of the language. > I doubt think that is unique to CF, though. It doesn't surprise me that > a developer doesn't know cfqueryparam. > > IT no longer seems to be a field where people are ecstatic about it and > want to live and breath IT 24/7. Some people just want to do there job and > go home. There are always exceptions, of course, but they seem to be > exceptions rather than the norm. > > I bet the number of people using frameworks in CF is very low (compared > to the number of CF Developers). The number of people using an OO > framework like Model-Glue or Mach-II is even smaller. > > I would expect an intermediate programmer to understand basic OO > concepts, even if they are not framework aware. > > You're more than welcome to say "but a developer should take it upon > himself to go out and learn". I agree (probably most people will) but not > everyone does it. > > > At 08:11 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote: > >CF jobs have increased in Ohio. I think if I would have held out at my old > >position for another year I could have had my choice of about 4 different > >companies. That being said I am pretty happy with my choice to go where I > >am. However we too need a developer and can't find crap. THe most > >experienced person we had apply didn't even know what cfqueryparam did. A cf > >developer that knows OOP yeah right. Model-Glue, Mach-II? Those are simply a > >products we sell. > > > >Adam > > > >On 1/5/06, Robert Reno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It seems like I have been getting double the usual calls for CF openings > > > in Florida. Has anyone else noticed more calls where you are? I even had > > > two direct calls from companies hiring in addition to the recruiters > > > calling. > > > > > > Rob in Tampa > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2826 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF or C F ?
Yes as Erik says - its one word. It just take a quick peek at Macromedia.com (or adobe.com) to see that it's quite consistently spelled as one word. Seeing it as two words on a resume or on a job posting is an interesting indicator of how long someone's been around (or their attention to detail), but shouldn't be a "make or break" type of thing unless you have 100 resumes to look at and need something silly to separate out a few of them. Also, as Beau points out, it's quite common to see it used both ways in job posts so it's always a good idea to search for both spellings when you do job searches. -Cameron On 1/25/06, Erik Voldengen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was C F back in the 3.x and before days. Then they moved to CF around > 3.1. I think it's because they either claimed a trademark or copyright on > ColdFusion, which would probably be harder to do with "Cold Fusion." Plus, > it's cooler, which may have been the main factor to begin with. > > So...Cold Fusion = newbie (or old school??) > > ColdFusion = those in the know. > > ___ >Erik Voldengen2037 NW Lovejoy 503-226-7099 >Fusium, Inc. Portland, OR 97209www.fusium.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: Beau Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:58 PM > > To: CF-Jobs > > Subject: CF or C F ? > > > > I asked a major player in the CF world a few years ago "What is the > > correct spelling of the word/term CF. Is it ColdFusion or Cold Fusion" and > > he said, "it's either or". > > > > If you do a CF job look-up on indeed.com for ColdFusion and Cold Fusion: > > http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=cold+fusion&l=&rl=1 > > http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=coldfusion&l=&sort= > > > > You'll see hundreds of CF jobs under each spelling of the word ColdFusion > > (or is it Cold Fusion?) > > > > Are all those CTOs and HR people who posted the job wrong? > > > > Please advise. > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.22/239 - Release Date: 1/24/2006 > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2852 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Job Change - Feedback requested
On 1/26/06, Jordan Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You might even do an application for yourself on something you have an > interest in. Just to make your life more interesting and your learning > experience more fulfilling. I definitely second this recommendation. Having a hobby site to work on will allow you to explore concepts and learn new things at your own pace. Once it's a little polished, it also give you a perpetual "look what I built" example for employers. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2860 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Too much experience
I consider Head Hunters / Recruiters a last resort. For the reasons you list below, and many many more. Personal networking is a much better way to go. -Cameron On 2/13/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw another NY based contract on the CF-jobs list but once I saw who posted > it, I knew I'd never get it. Why? Because I'm too experienced. If you have > 10+ years in ColdFusion your almost un-hirable. If you ask below your worth, > the company is worried that you will not be happy and will jump ship first > chance you get. And that's if you take below your worth to begin with. If you > ask your worth, the head hunter will not send you to the company for fear of > the company rejecting the resume out of hand. Or to be more real, the head > hunter will try to talk you down to what he feels is the highest the company > will go because he gets a percentage and really wants to get it. If you ask > for a real bid, the chances are the head hunter will just not send it along > at all. Too many high bids makes the head hunter look bad. > It's a dangerous cliff. Grow and get better but if you get too good, you fall > off. :( ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2870 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Too much experience
My own personal experience is that most of the best jobs are not filled through recruiters, but via the networking. I try to make sure people know who I am and when/if they ever have an opening to think of me. Recruiters are expensive and most companies would prefer to get candidates direct if they know some. It's just a matter of getting exposure to the people who make those decisions in a personal way (not via resume blasts). Even if a company "must" go through an agency due to some contractual obligation you can still get hires directly by the company and just fill out the paperwork for the hiring firm. Just meet people and make sure they remember you in a positive light and you have half the battle won already. -Cameron On 2/13/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem is, in NY almost every corp or government job your going to see is > through a head hunter. There are smaller things around, but the really big > jobs are locked into a specific way of being offered. > > >I consider Head Hunters / Recruiters a last resort. For the reasons > > you list below, and many many more. Personal networking is a much > > better way to go. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2876 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Web Developer Position - Beginner
I had the same thought. :) Odd to see "One Giant Plant" listed in a job description. It makes me wonder what the "other amenities" are. Good to see postings with a sense of humor. -Cameron On 2/27/06, John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just one plant? > > Sorry couldn't resist :) > > On 2/27/06, Jim Curran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nylon Technology > > www.nylontechnology.com > > > > About Us > > We are a New York City-based software company that builds web-based > > systems > > including websites, intranets, extranets, cd-rom, content management and > > database solutions. We focus on the technology portion of web projects > > and > > partner with design agencies to provide the interface design. > > > > We work in a loft on 14th Street with skylights, a large plant and other > > amenities. It's a fairly informal environment, but we are serious about > > our > > work. We have been in business since 1997. > > > > Job Description > > We are looking for a detail-oriented web developer with around two years > > of > > professional experience building websites. Intermediate > > HTML/DHTML/JavaScript and beginner Cold Fusion and SQL skills are a must. > > Other languages are a plus. > > > > You will be surrounded by advanced web application developers using > > primarily Cold Fusion and SQL Server, so this position will offer great > > growth and learning potential. > > > > You will interact directly with clients, so communication skills are also > > important. The position is full-time and includes health benefits. > > > > Next Step > > If you are interested, please send your resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > . > > In your cover email, include: > > 1) Desired salary range > > 2) City where you live > > 3) When you would be available for an interview > > 4) When you would be available to start > > > > Thank you. > > > > - Jim > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2900 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Job Flames (Re: DEVELOPER NEEDED: Part-Time Project Work; 100% Telecommute Opportunity)
On 8/7/06, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh grow up. I can't believe someone actually flamed a job posting on > CF-Jobs. Don't hound potential employers just because you aren't qualified > to fill their position. Yeah - kinda an odd post to select for abuse. Maybe they just have a serious case of the Mondays... Peter Gibbons: Let me ask you something. When you come in on Monday, and you're not feelin' real well, does anyone ever say to you, 'Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays'? Lawrence: No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man. Seriously though - This list is archived, and Christian is not the only potential employer reading it. I'd be aware of that when posting to the list. -Cameron ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3055 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: IDEA: Candidate Blacklist
That seems a little uncalled for. Prospective employees read this list too, not to mention that your posting will now come up when potential employees google "Accessible Computing Inc". Just a thought. -Cameron On 8/7/06, Christian N. Abad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone: > > In light of today's rather interesting thread on the CF-Jobs and > CF-Jobs-Talk lists, it has come to my attention that we may need to create a > "Candidate Blacklist" for individuals just like Ray Meade, Phillip M. > Vector, Kevin Mansel, and everyone else who feels the need to flame job > postings. > > I'd be happy to have one of my junior resources bang out a simple > application to track these people who, as an employer, I would never want to > hire - not even to scrub the toilets. I feel a simple "forums" site would > handle this nicely. (The candidate blacklist, not the toilet scrubbing...) > > I'm thinking of a concise and memorable URL, like: > > cfjobsblacklist.com > donothirethesepeople.com > thesepeoplehavenothingbettertodothanflamejobposts.com > > ;-) > > Thoughts? > > ~Christian > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Skill Sets
I think that's a constructive question. I would break the types of CF developers into two camps: 1) Website Developers and 2) Application (Business) Developers. The requirements are different for both, with some overlap. 1) Website Developers - need stronger CSS and design skills. Might list things like strong Photoshop experience on a resume. Usually weaker on actual software development skill, but stronger on design and have a better balance between application development and design skill. Website people tend to come from backgrounds were they were a one man band and had to wear allt he hats to get things done. During an interview, if you ask these folks what technologies they'd like to learn about next they will answer with "CSS, Flash, etc". Most of the people I look for don't fall into this bucket. Mainly because I work primarily with business apps and not marketing focused websites. I don't say this to reduce the significance of this skillset, only to point out that I don't have a list of skillsets for this type of position on the tip of my tongue. 2) Business Application Developers - Stronger software development skills, but can't design their way out of a paper bag - because they don't need to. Usually these types of developers are accustomed to building apps on a team where there are dedicated design folks to worry about the CSS and visual design work, and the CF guys are just doing CF code. It's common for people in this camp to know multiple programming languages. During an interview, if you ask these guys what they'd like to learn next they will answer ".NET, Java, Design Patterns". As far as the actual question asked about skillsets... I tend not to look at specific skills inside CF, but for more abstract skills. A recent job posting I made for a position listed the following skills: - Firm grasp of Object Oriented Programming concepts - Knowledge of current Design Pattern trends - Analytical mind / good problem solving skills - Understanding of overall application design and development - Standards oriented development - Attention to detail In my personal opinion, someone who has these nailed down can handle the specific challenges that any specific language presents. I know - these are not easy to quantify and it's hard to say "go learn this" like you can by saying "go learn SQL" or "go learn CSS". It's easy to ask about these concepts conversationally during an interview and tell if someone's totally lost or knows something about them. After that it's really a totally subjective measurement as to what is "intermediate". Ultimately, I think the measurement of a candidate's skill level has alot to do with the skill level of the interviewer. After all, we only know what we know. I know that every day someone teaches me something I didn't know. Does that make me a beginner? Intermediate? I have no idea. Only someone who really knows everything could tell me, and I don't know anyone who knows everything. Till then, I will be estimating someone else's skill level by the only measuring stick available to me - my own skill level. -Cameron On 8/8/06, Steve Blades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you consider a solid base skill set for an Intermediate ColdFusion > Developer? The bare minimum that someone applying for an Intermediate > position should know? This isn't to start another 'war', just to gather some > opinions. Here's my short list:- XHTML (first rate)- Javascript (maybe not > everything, but at least be able to write form validation scripting, simple > DOM manipulation)- CSS (not an expert, but yes, tableless layouts for > anything but tabular data)- ColdFusion (most basic functionality + > understanding of CFCs [maybe never used cfchart or something])- SQL (Insert, > Update, Delete, Join, subselects, heavy basics. maybe can't tell you all > about Unions)- Some Frameworks Experience- Moving/moved away from procedural > code to OO constructsOK, so what would you add or take away?Steve "Cutter" > Blades ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3069 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Skill Sets
Wait - that was onlist :) Time for bed for me... -Cameron On 8/8/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glad you enjoyed it! You are the second person to comment about it offlist. > :) > > -Cameron ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3078 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Skill Sets
Glad you enjoyed it! You are the second person to comment about it offlist. :) -Cameron On 8/8/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron, > > I read this 4 times today. > > Very well put. > > > > On 8/8/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that's a constructive question. I would break the types of CF > > developers into two camps: 1) Website Developers and 2) Application > > (Business) Developers. The requirements are different for both, with > > some overlap. > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Noob CF-Jobs usage question
Steve - Is the problem that the sender's email is not included in content of the digest messages? I'd say that if someone forgot to put contact info on their job posting that's their loss. -Cameron On 2/7/07, Steve Runyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Imhoff kindly straightened me out off-list, but I think there's still an > issue here. > > If you're subscribed "immediate," a response to the email goes to the poster; > however, if you're subscribed "digest" or viewing the posts at HoF, you're > dependent on the information the poster's included in the post...again, > unless I'm missing something. > > I can and will change my settings, but any and all suggestions for handling > this situation would still be much appreciated. > > Thanks! > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Noob CF-Jobs usage question
My thoughts on job satisfaction are pretty basic. If you aren't satisfied at work (whether it be due to pay, working conditions, type of work, coworkers, whatever), you should attempt to change the conditions you are dis-satisfied with. This may mean conversations with your boss, coworkers, or other actions. If the problems are beyond your control, or you are unable to change them, then you should cut your losses and find a new job ASAP (if you can). Every moment you remain unhappy and stressed about a job situation, a little bit of your soul is beaten out of you. Fix it or leave. There is absolutely no good reason to remain employed somewhere you are unhappy - and that's that. -Cameron On 2/8/07, Steve Runyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't find myself in this position, actually, but many people would. > > This is going OT (or is it? this is CF-Jobs-TALK, after all), but I've gone > back and forth on this issue. I think this makes sense: > * If you have an employer who has been honest and up-front with you, been > proactive about your career status and made you aware of advancement > opportunities, and otherwise been respectful of you as an employee and a > person, I agree. > * On the other hand, if your employer has shaded the truth or lied outright; > made promises they knew or had strong reason to suspect they couldn't keep, > or simply didn't keep; apparently hidden from you opportunities that you > could have taken advantage of had you known about them, or ignored your > requests for consideration for opportunities you did know about; and > otherwise treated you as a piece of designing/coding/managing meat (perhaps > Kobe beef, but still meat), you have every right to pop them with 2 weeks' > notice and walk out the door 80 working hours and 0 seconds later. > > If you have never found yourself in the latter situation, that's absolutely > terrific and I hope you never do. I certainly intend never to. > > Thanks for bringing this up, Jordan - loyalty and respect are points that > are often forgotten in the "it's all (only) about me" talk in regards to > today's career management philosophies. I agree with you 100%, as long as > the loyalty and respect go both ways. > > > On 2/7/07, Jordan Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Steve Runyon wrote: > > > That would seem to make it risky if, for example, your boss also reads > > the list. > > > > If you find yourself in this position, perhaps it's time to take your > > concerns (along with the fact that you are looking for alternative > > employment) to your boss. Good bosses solve problems (Isn't that what we > > all get paid for?), and would most likely not want to lose a good > > employee. It would be honorable to allow your current employer to at > > least attempt to make a counter offer in most situations. > > > > Just a thought. ;) > > > > Warm regards, > > Jordan Michaels > > Vivio Technologies > > http://www.viviotech.net/ > > Blue Dragon Alliance Member > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Managing Remote Developers
On 5/23/07, Ben Shichman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My company, located in LA, consistently is having difficulty finding > and hiring local CF talent. Have you considered looking in SD or IE? Particularly if you are looking for remote help, having someone close enough to drive up to LA every few weeks is advantageous. I'd also review the compensation package you are offering. I know pickins are slim in SoCal (I live in SD), but I've also found that alot of companies out here expect good talent for VERY low wages. You may find more candidates willing to work for you if you bump up the rates a bit. They will likely also be more productive and happier. > 1) How can we maintain a "team" atmosphere with remote workers? It's tough, but frequent communication is key. If your work environment is IM friendly it will make it easier. You will also want to budget in money to fly the developers to your location periodically if you ever expect to have any type of team spirit. It could also be a good idea to buy the remote workers a nice fat DSL line and provide them with webcams. Faces tend to make people feel more connected. > 2) We are not consultants, we produce a single product which 6-7 developers > will work on. How do you manage the workload of remote developers in this > type of environment, where you cant just give them a client project and tell > them to run with it? We currently develop specs and give them to a dev - > is this enough? Actually, I would think that working on a single product would be EASIER for remote developers. You can fly them out, teach them the inner workings of the app, and then they can go - without having to get re-oriented with each new project. Also, if your shop is using ANY of the frameworks out there you're likely to find people who can hit the ground running much faster than you otherwise would. Frameworks will make it easier to divide work out to remote folks too. > 3) How do you develop trust with the remote dev? Same way you do with other team members. Just be sure to be VERY VERY clear about performance expectations from the get go. There is alot of informal communication that goes on in person that they will not get when remote. You won't have as many opportunities to correct a wrong direction so make sure you communicate alot and make it clear what you expect from them (without being overbearing of course). > 4) What mechanisms for reporting of time etc are most effective? Is this a salaried job? If so, why would they need to track time? If you ever expect trust from them you have to trust them too. I personally find that making your full time employees keep time is insulting - unless you are running a Burger King. If this is a hourly contract job, then I would expect them to provide you with invoices and timesheets just like any other contractor would. Depending on what you use for accounting, there are some good options out there - for example, QuickBooks online allows employees to enter time directly into QB with a web browser. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
Sometimes it's best just to learn from your bad experiences and just move on. Spending too much time stewing (in public) can be very counter-productive. -Cameron Joseph Smuzynski wrote: > After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about > ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between > f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
J W wrote: > We can complain when we are burned, or have the attitude that you need to > "learn your lesson and move on". The 6 million dollar question is. How do we > make it right? I would argue that the lessons to be learned have to do with: 1) How you make the decision to work with someone (or not) - make sure you are dealing with someone you trust. 2) What legal mechanisms are in place to help enforce any agreements you make - in case your trust was misplaced 3) How well (and when) you recognize and take action when something's going the wrong direction - to keep you from getting too deep before you cut the cord. Most bad situations are a result of not doing one of the three above correctly. -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3602 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
I've said what I have to say. If you don't agree that's fine with me. Good luck with your endeavors. -Cameron J W wrote: > There still needs to be accountability on the company. > > Counterpoint #1: I disagree. How the heck do your make a decision to TRUST > someone that you barely know. Heck even if you know them, trust them, they > can still burn you. See "Holmes on Homes" for many examples of deception of > trust. Different industry, same problem. Your not going to get trust, plain > and simple. You need a strong method of accountability other than "trust". > > Counterpoint #2: Unless you have money for a lawyer and run through small > claims, your more than likely SOL. We need more protection that just trying > to hire a lawyer. How much $$$ do you have to shell out for lawyers to MAKE > a uplholdable contract/agreement. Remember its still you job to collect even > if the judge awards you money. Good luck with that. How many consultants > have the expendable income to collect like this. > > Counterpoint #3: While You need to be smart enough to recognize when to cut > the cord, You also need to be careful on how you do it. Cutting such cord > can cause negative effects for YOU the consultant. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3604 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Resources
I don't think there are any companies that specialize in it, but there are several who will do CF recruiting. Perhaps someone else will have a couple of names - I don't like using recruiters. What I can say is that the DC area is one of the strongest markets for CF and there is a fairly large population of CF people there, compared to other areas of the US. -Cameron On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Phi Dinh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My boss is asking me for resources in terms of staffing agencies that > specializing in recruiting CF developers. I guess he's trying to get a > sense if is it that difficult to find CF developers to hire. This is in the > DC Metro area is that makes a difference. Anyone have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Phi -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3744 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11