RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?

2006-12-20 Thread McCabe, Bill
If anyone knows any strong CF talent in the Chicago area, you can
contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I'm searching for a Sr. Web
Developer full-time. 

Thank you,

Bill

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From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:22 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?


I was recently hired by a So. Cal. company, but I live in Colorado and
am soon moving to Kentucky. The company looked locally, worked with
remote contractors for 6 months, and then hired 2 of them as full-time
remote team members. There does seem to be a trend to having part of
your team remote. Doing it full time will be a new venture for the
company and for me.



 I agree with this.  Also, many more developers are able to work 
 remotely and live in 'less expensive' areas but still work for 
 companies where the cost of living is higher.  I have a contract with 
 a Fortune 500 company based in Arkansas, my manager is in 
 Pennsylvania, and I live and work from my home office in Texas.  It's 
 a regular 40 hour a week contract position, they just don't require to

 be on site.  If they required me to be on site in Pennsylvania, 
 there's no way I would take the contract. I own a 4,000 square foot 
 house in the Dallas Fort Worth area for $200k but in Pennsylvania, 
 that would cost a minimum of $600k (if I'm lucky).
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Matt Williams
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RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?

2006-12-20 Thread McCabe, Bill
Well, that's not always true.  There's a couple major reasons that some
companies frown on telecommuting:

1) From HR's perspective, believe me, if you do it for one person, you
have to let EVERYONE telecommute at least a portion of the time.  This
is of course an enormous headache and too many people have ruined it by
not legitimiately working from home.  Once the floodgates open,
productivity plummets.  If you can get away with some doing it and
others not (without complaining to mgt or HR) then go for it. 

2) Like I told Pete, what seems like a position that lends itself well
to telecommmuting (Web Development), in certain environments like ours,
it is far too collaborative.  Our position would have this person
meeting cross functionally w/ Marketing and too many other groups so
having that person here on site lends far more value.

While people assume companies want to restrict telecommuting simply to
keep tabs or be difficult is not really fair.  There are sound
business reasons for requiring on-site work, at least for full-timers.


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From: RobG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:40 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?


Companies want local people because their management can't get it 
through their heads that working remotely can be productive.  These 
companies have to be able to keep tabs on what their people are doing.

  They don't believe in giving people the freedom to do what needs to be

done, as long as the work gets done on time.

I recently worked remotely for a company in San Diego while I was in 
Montana.  I was there for seven months, the pay rate was extremely low 
(but there is NO CF work in Montana -- and how I ended up there is 
another story entirely), and then after seven months they inform me that

they're cutting their remote developers to outsource them to CHINA 
because for what (little) they were paying me, they could have a TEAM of

people.  Talk about cutthroat.  It nearly left my wife and I stranded up

there; we pulled out all the stops, spent every last dime we had, and 
moved back to Reno (where my wife's family is) because at least there is

work here, though not necessarily CF work.

Since then I've picked up one remote gig out of the east coast that is 
part-time, and a local one working with a design firm that needed a 
programmer.  It's still not as much work as I'd like, but at least it's 
work.

CF work is definitely scarce.  I want to get into Java and some other 
technologies, but haven't really figured out how to make the move yet.

Rob




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