RE: Independent Consultants

[Dave Phillips]

>> Dave Phillips wrote:
Yes, you read it write.


Of course, apparently, I cannot spell, so you should NOT hire me for my
spellchecking skillsthat was supposed to say "Yes, you read it
right."  Sheesh, it's too early in the morning for me to be writing an
e-mail I supposed. :)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Dave Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:45 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: Independent Consultants


Jeffry,

Yes, you read it write.  I work with another company that does the
payroll and taxes work and I will be doing the billing part.  I've
talked to many independent consultants over the years and many have
complained about having to do the tax work and don't mind paying a small
fee to someone else to do it for them.  

As for recruiting firms, the difference here is that my client is the
consultant, NOT the client.  Recruiting firms have a fiduciary
responsibility to their client.  In this case, MY customer is the
consultant and I'm providing a service for themthey are providing
the service to their client.  The client is theirs, not mine.  I'm
trying to help with tasks that take them off the important things they
do like working billable hours.  Although some people may bill their
invoicing time, I haven't heard of anyone who bills the time they take
to do their quarterly tax payments and researching tax law to ensure
they are doing the right stuff regarding taxes.

Also, I didn't say that I was starting something no one else does.  I
too have come across a few other companies out there who do something
similar.  My goal is to do it better and cheaper than others.

Sincerely,
 
Dave Phillips
WebTech Staffing, LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(402) 896-8801



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RE: Independent Consultants

[Dave Phillips]

Jeffry,

Yes, you read it write.  I work with another company that does the
payroll and taxes work and I will be doing the billing part.  I've
talked to many independent consultants over the years and many have
complained about having to do the tax work and don't mind paying a small
fee to someone else to do it for them.  

As for recruiting firms, the difference here is that my client is the
consultant, NOT the client.  Recruiting firms have a fiduciary
responsibility to their client.  In this case, MY customer is the
consultant and I'm providing a service for themthey are providing
the service to their client.  The client is theirs, not mine.  I'm
trying to help with tasks that take them off the important things they
do like working billable hours.  Although some people may bill their
invoicing time, I haven't heard of anyone who bills the time they take
to do their quarterly tax payments and researching tax law to ensure
they are doing the right stuff regarding taxes.

Also, I didn't say that I was starting something no one else does.  I
too have come across a few other companies out there who do something
similar.  My goal is to do it better and cheaper than others.

Sincerely,
 
Dave Phillips
WebTech Staffing, LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(402) 896-8801


-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:48 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: Independent Consultants


  I hate to turn this into a flame bait, but...

  Did you just start a company doing the exact thing you said you 
hated?  It doesn't sound like a recipe for success.
  Don't a lot of recruiting firms work this way (where the consultants
are 
employees of the recruiting firm)/

At 09:57 AM 6/9/2006, Dave Phillips wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I have been an independent consultant for years, doing ColdFusion for 
>over
>8 years, and one of the things I hated most was dealing with my taxes, 
>estimated quarterly payments, blah, blah, blah.  As a result, I have
now 
>formed a new company and one of the services I'm providing for other 
>independent consultants is a billing and payroll service.  Basically,
it 
>works like this:  You have your clients and do your work for them.
When 
>you are ready to bill them, you provide their contact info and your 
>billing information (company name, logo, amount of work, cost, etc.)
and I 
>invoice your client for you.  Your client then sends in a check and you

>are then paid as an employee of my company.  I take care of all the 
>withholding for your taxes (you're still paying your SE Social Security

>taxes, it's just coming out automatically for you) and reporting to the

>IRS.  As far as the IRS is concerned, you are an employee of my company

>(WebTech Staffing, LLC).  As a result, at the end of the year, you get
a 
>W-2 and do your taxes like every other normal soul who doesn't have to 
>deal with self-employment taxes.
>
>So basically, my service is there to take the burden of invoicing, 
>payroll
>and tax handling off of the independent consultant so they can focus on

>what they do best:  consulting.
>
>Another nice benefit is that once I have enough consultants on board, 
>we
>can apply as a group for health and other insurance and not have to be 
>singled out for individual health plans!  There are other benefits we
can 
>access as well (401k, Cafeteria plan, etc.)
>
>If you're interested in finding out more, please contact me directly at
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I don't have a website put together yet,
because 
>this is just getting off the ground.  However, I have owned my own
company 
>with many employees for years, so even though I'm just starting this 
>service, I am not new to all the regulations and requirements for this
area.
>
>Happy consulting!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Dave Phillips
>WebTech Staffing, LLC
>(402) 896-8801



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Re: Independent Consultants

[John Wilker]

I can't recall the namse now, but I know of at least two places that do the
exact same thing for a fee of course.

When my wife and I incorporated, our first step was find an account to
handle that stuff.

Good luck in your venture.

J

On 6/9/06, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 01:35 PM 6/9/2006, Michael Perlstein wrote:
> >This is a good question Jeff and one I run into often having involvement
> >in the IT hiring industry.  There seems to be a little misconception with
> >respects to terms like, "Consultant, Independent Contractor and
> Employee."
>
>I have never heard the distinction described in such a manner.  Many
> people, as you say, use "consultant" and "contractor" as synonyms; so the
> confusion does not surprise me.  I was unaware there was an official
> distinction.
>Where do "1099" workers fit into the picture?
>
>
> >"Independent Contractor" as many of you know actually means Corp to Corp,
> >where you do your own taxes, don't sign a W-2 and don't expect to get
> >benefits from the company that pays you.  It also means you only get paid
> >AFTER your client gets paid if your are subbing through them.
>
>
>   That is not always the case, although I have seen such clauses
> before.  When I outsource, I never put that restriction on my
> contractors.  I have worked with many companies who outsource to me and
> never put that restriction on me.
>
>   A smart independent contractor will [try to] negotiate payment terms
> beyond "you get paid after we get paid."  Most (not all) companies I've
> worked with in such regards are willing to say something like "we get paid
> in 30 days, so we can pay you in 45 days."  Others are willing to offer up
> an advance payment.  I believe either one could constitute a valid middle
> ground.
>
>
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> AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
> --
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> My Books: 
> My Recording Studio: 
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> Now Blogging at 
>
>
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RE: Independent Consultants

[Jeffry Houser]

At 01:35 PM 6/9/2006, Michael Perlstein wrote:
>This is a good question Jeff and one I run into often having involvement 
>in the IT hiring industry.  There seems to be a little misconception with 
>respects to terms like, "Consultant, Independent Contractor and Employee."

   I have never heard the distinction described in such a manner.  Many 
people, as you say, use "consultant" and "contractor" as synonyms; so the 
confusion does not surprise me.  I was unaware there was an official 
distinction.
   Where do "1099" workers fit into the picture?


>"Independent Contractor" as many of you know actually means Corp to Corp, 
>where you do your own taxes, don't sign a W-2 and don't expect to get 
>benefits from the company that pays you.  It also means you only get paid 
>AFTER your client gets paid if your are subbing through them.


  That is not always the case, although I have seen such clauses 
before.  When I outsource, I never put that restriction on my 
contractors.  I have worked with many companies who outsource to me and 
never put that restriction on me.

  A smart independent contractor will [try to] negotiate payment terms 
beyond "you get paid after we get paid."  Most (not all) companies I've 
worked with in such regards are willing to say something like "we get paid 
in 30 days, so we can pay you in 45 days."  Others are willing to offer up 
an advance payment.  I believe either one could constitute a valid middle 
ground.


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Re: Independent Consultants

[Jeffry Houser]

  I hate to turn this into a flame bait, but...

  Did you just start a company doing the exact thing you said you 
hated?  It doesn't sound like a recipe for success.
  Don't a lot of recruiting firms work this way (where the consultants are 
employees of the recruiting firm)/

At 09:57 AM 6/9/2006, Dave Phillips wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I have been an independent consultant for years, doing ColdFusion for over 
>8 years, and one of the things I hated most was dealing with my taxes, 
>estimated quarterly payments, blah, blah, blah.  As a result, I have now 
>formed a new company and one of the services I'm providing for other 
>independent consultants is a billing and payroll service.  Basically, it 
>works like this:  You have your clients and do your work for them.  When 
>you are ready to bill them, you provide their contact info and your 
>billing information (company name, logo, amount of work, cost, etc.) and I 
>invoice your client for you.  Your client then sends in a check and you 
>are then paid as an employee of my company.  I take care of all the 
>withholding for your taxes (you're still paying your SE Social Security 
>taxes, it's just coming out automatically for you) and reporting to the 
>IRS.  As far as the IRS is concerned, you are an employee of my company 
>(WebTech Staffing, LLC).  As a result, at the end of the year, you get a 
>W-2 and do your taxes like every other normal soul who doesn't have to 
>deal with self-employment taxes.
>
>So basically, my service is there to take the burden of invoicing, payroll 
>and tax handling off of the independent consultant so they can focus on 
>what they do best:  consulting.
>
>Another nice benefit is that once I have enough consultants on board, we 
>can apply as a group for health and other insurance and not have to be 
>singled out for individual health plans!  There are other benefits we can 
>access as well (401k, Cafeteria plan, etc.)
>
>If you're interested in finding out more, please contact me directly at 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I don't have a website put together yet, because 
>this is just getting off the ground.  However, I have owned my own company 
>with many employees for years, so even though I'm just starting this 
>service, I am not new to all the regulations and requirements for this area.
>
>Happy consulting!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Dave Phillips
>WebTech Staffing, LLC
>(402) 896-8801



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Independent Consultants

[Dave Phillips]

Hi all,
 
I have been an independent consultant for years, doing ColdFusion for over 8 
years, and one of the things I hated most was dealing with my taxes, estimated 
quarterly payments, blah, blah, blah.  As a result, I have now formed a new 
company and one of the services I'm providing for other independent consultants 
is a billing and payroll service.  Basically, it works like this:  You have 
your clients and do your work for them.  When you are ready to bill them, you 
provide their contact info and your billing information (company name, logo, 
amount of work, cost, etc.) and I invoice your client for you.  Your client 
then sends in a check and you are then paid as an employee of my company.  I 
take care of all the withholding for your taxes (you're still paying your SE 
Social Security taxes, it's just coming out automatically for you) and 
reporting to the IRS.  As far as the IRS is concerned, you are an employee of 
my company (WebTech Staffing, LLC).  As a result, at the end of the year, you 
get a W-2 and do your taxes like every other normal soul who doesn't have to 
deal with self-employment taxes.  
 
So basically, my service is there to take the burden of invoicing, payroll and 
tax handling off of the independent consultant so they can focus on what they 
do best:  consulting.  
 
Another nice benefit is that once I have enough consultants on board, we can 
apply as a group for health and other insurance and not have to be singled out 
for individual health plans!  There are other benefits we can access as well 
(401k, Cafeteria plan, etc.)
 
If you're interested in finding out more, please contact me directly at [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  I don't have a website put together yet, because this is just 
getting off the ground.  However, I have owned my own company with many 
employees for years, so even though I'm just starting this service, I am not 
new to all the regulations and requirements for this area.
 
Happy consulting!
 
Sincerely,
 
Dave Phillips
WebTech Staffing, LLC
(402) 896-8801

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