Re: VAMP Chat

[Michael Lugassy]

My answers on http://chat.imvamp.com are below:

> Michael
>
> I haven't had a chance to get back to vamp yet. but have some questions.
>
> How long does the chatter stay around?
>

sorry, didn't understand what you mean by chatter?
the applet? the moderator?

> Does the chat forum encourage "immediate" response at the expense of >
"considered" response?
>

not necessarily, it's actually a bunch of people (from cf-talk/community)
that's are an EXPERT (aren't we all) on CF.
you'll hear multiple answers and wide range of opinions..
from newbies to profs.

> Can the content be sorted/searched like  ug?
>

The chat transcripts can be archived but I think it's useless.
instead of searching throught archives (does people actually do it)
you can ask again. lots of answers will come along in no time.
why waste time and search for outdated info?

> Can the content be selectively ignored or discarded?
>

You'll have the option to open room or join an opened room about
a certain discussion - let's say: Verity. but mostly, I see it as open
chat, where people keep the chat window on minimize, then
ask a question (after opening the window), join the discussion (if they
want to) and log off. how many simulatinous threads are you getting
on cf-talk? 1 or 2, maybe 3 - the rest are answers and answers on the
same subject.

> Are there any permanent records/archieves, or do you have to "be
> there" when the answer/topic you seek is discussed?
>
all topics are discussed, every time. you might get lucky and have
your q answered in 1 second or u'll have to come back later.
just keep the applet loaded in u'r taskbar and jump in and out.

> Does a chat augment or replace an excellent UG such as this.
>

Not really, but it's something new to try out...
I think it can be useful to lots of people, the problem is no one
tried it. just "taking a look" and leaving..

I think we can at least try...
http://chat.imvamp.com



> TIA
>
> Dick
>
> At 3:51 AM +0200 4/25/01, Michael Lugassy wrote:
> >VAMP Chat experince with CF-Talk users was conducted succesfully!
> >Thank to you guys we chatted about the future of cf-talk/community
> >as we see it (chat based, without lags and other problems).
> >
> >It was fun, would love to do this again.
> >Tell me what you think!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >log into here: http://chat.imvamp.com
> >
> >the app is ready, supports up to 500 users. no delays, easy to get
> >answers and wonderful features.
> >
>
>
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Re: Netscape 6

[miles]

>Has anyone else had problems with coldfusion and netscape 6?  For some
>reason, it seems to lose form vars when they're passed to the action page.
>
>My code works in Netscape 4.x and IE so I know it's not a code issue.

I had the same problem doing development with version 4.5 of CF.
until I realized that I hadn't set default variables for my vars.

Miles.

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RE: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application

[zac]

> There are special circumstances to justify every exception to
> the rule. You
> understand your business responsibilities better than anyone. I was
> responding to a request for an opinion on a specific circumstance, and
> didn't mean to disparage your particular practices.

Totally understood. I'm not sure of what the extent of his business CMS is
so I just thought I'd drop in that comment


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RE: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application

[Christopher Cortes]

Zac,

There are special circumstances to justify every exception to the rule. You
understand your business responsibilities better than anyone. I was
responding to a request for an opinion on a specific circumstance, and
didn't mean to disparage your particular practices.

- Chris


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-Original Message-
From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application


> You guys keep giving out good advice. Reinventing the wheel
> is not a good
> idea.

Unless thats all you do (CMS) in which case it might be a good idea. I am
just finishing off a basic CSM system built for precisely that purpose.
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RE: Netscape 6

[Christopher Cortes]

Mike,

Are you attempting to pass variables from a non-secure page to a secure
page?

- Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Mike Provoost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Netscape 6


Has anyone else had problems with coldfusion and netscape 6?  For some
reason, it seems to lose form vars when they're passed to the action page.

My code works in Netscape 4.x and IE so I know it's not a code issue.




Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks in Advance.

-Mike
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Netscape 6

[Mike Provoost]

Has anyone else had problems with coldfusion and netscape 6?  For some
reason, it seems to lose form vars when they're passed to the action page.

My code works in Netscape 4.x and IE so I know it's not a code issue.




Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks in Advance.

-Mike


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Re: Is CF still relevant?

[Peter Theobald]

I seem to be the exception rather than the rule around here. I am NOT a graphic 
artist/webmaster learning his first programming language. I am a trained programmer 
with years of experience programming many different systems.

I probably know more computer languages than many of you have heard of ( Cold Fusion, 
Java, Perl, PHP, SQL, Javascript, HTML, C++, C, Basic, LISP, Forth, Fortran, TCL/Tk, 
Pascal, Modula-2, COBOL, SNOBOL, Prolog, APL, HyperCard, Bash/SH/CSH/KSH, Bliss, 
Assembly: Intel, M68000, Z80, 6502, and many many more)

For me Cold Fusion's appeal is NOT it's easy learning curve (although it IS easy to 
learn). It is that it is the FASTEST development environment available to me for 
producing bug-free, efficient, powerful web sites.

I don't develop in ASP/VB because it is an ugly, error prone language that slows me 
down with too many details.
I don't develop (much) in Java because, while it's a beautiful well designed language, 
it also slows me down with too many unimportant details.
I also love Perl for it's power (though pity the newcomer trying to learn it :-) ) but 
again, it is not the optimal web programming environment.

In Cold Fusion I can GET THE JOB DONE. All my customers care about is that I deliver 
the best possible web site in the shortest time for the least cost. Cold Fusion let's 
me do that. My customers are happy, so I am happy. 

In Cold Fusion I can hand off components of a site to junior programmers and they will 
be very productive.
And in Cold Fusion I can switch from WinNT/Win2K hosting to Linux hosting to Solaris 
hosting if I need to with a minimum of trouble. I can also switch from SQL Server to 
Sybase to Oracle with a minimum of trouble. Try THAT in ASP!

Sorry to rant, but, yes, in my opinion CF is more relevant than ever.


At 05:31 PM 4/20/01 -0400, Joseph Grossberg wrote:
>You brought up and interesting point, and Neo will be a big boost to CF, 
>IMHO, and I'll be psyched when it arrives. But if someone knows Java, why 
>not just use JRun at that point? Also, Allaire doesn't seem to have a 
>concrete date for CF Server 5 release, much less Neo (a.k.a. version 6).
>
>However, while I think that some additional stuff CF does is good (e.g. 
>integration with Flash; I think the MM/Allaire merger is very 
>complimentary), it seems like it's just way behind on other things. I mean, 
>even Perl programmers can use OOP and XML if they want to, but it's not 
>necessary. With CF, you don't even have that option. ColdFusion just seems 
>like it's always a step (or more) behind the competing technologies.
>
>I also don't like the fact that we're basically depending on one vendor for 
>everything except a smattering of custom tags and minor third-party 
>applications. If something in Perl or Python doesn't work, someone fixes it 
>soon. If something in ASP or Java doesn't work, then MS or Sun fixes it (or 
>another company will sell it, because the market is large enough). But since 
>Allaire is solely responsible for CF Studio, CF Server, Spectra, JRun, etc., 
>it seems like we're putting all our eggs in one basket. Like, "Oh, your 
>upgrade to CF Server 4.5 broke your CFHTTP / CFFTP / CFMAIL tag? Well you 
>have to downgrade to 4.0 or just wait ... until ... whenever we finally 
>release 5.0 ... assuming it's fixed then."
>
>Like I said, I think CF has its plusses and minuses, but it just seems less 
>compelling to me by the month.
>
>Joe
>
>
>>From: "Derek Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Is CF still relevant?
>>Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:40:36 -0700
>>
>>A couple thoughts...
>>
>>Don't you think Neo/Java will enable CF to pull in other developers and let
>>those of us that know Java expand what we would typically do with CF?  
>>Also,
>>don't you think that Allaire now being Macromedia will enhance it's staying
>>power and entice more developers to learn CF?
>>
>>At our company we use CF because it is fast to develop with.  No other
>>language we've found has been so fast AND powerful.
>>
>>Derek Hamilton
>>Systems Developer
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Joseph Grossberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:27 PM
>>Subject: Is CF still relevant?
>>
>>
>> > Now, before you dismiss this as a troll, please let me elaborate. This
>>isn't
>> > so much an instigation or a whine as it is a call for us to take a step
>>back
>> > and reevalutate things periodically.
>> >
>> > Over the course of my career as a web programmer/developer, I have 
>>worked
>> > with a variety of sever-side languages and technologies: ColdFusion, 
>>ASP,
>> > JSP, PHP, Perl and Python. I like some more than others, but I'm not an
>> > evangelist for any; they each have their uses. And I recognize some of
>>CF's
>> > strengths: easy to learn for people who know only tag-based HTML or 
>>don't
>> > have significant programming experience; built-in admin 

Re: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)

[Kay Smoljak]

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:22:11 +0200, "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Ok, it's official.
>Testing for cf-talk members: chat applet
>NO MORE CHAR(8)
>
>Log into chat.imvamp.com and let's try to discuss there
>more efficiently.

Don't forget all the people who aren't in your timezone. I read the messages
at work during the day, when most of the list is "asleep". Actually I read
it through the Fuseware NNTP mirror. I'm sure there are many others in the
same boat.
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Re: CFX_IMAGE

[Kay Smoljak]

>I'm about to use the tag CFX_IMAGE extensivley on my new project.
>Is it reliable enough? Is there anything I should consider? mem usage?
>performance? Is there a better tag?

We were using it and were very happy with its operation and feature set,
except the quality of the jpegs it output, which were below par. We ended up
writing our own - http://developer.perthweb.com.au - but if you're only
working with gifs you won't have a problem.

Regards,
Kay.
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Cfm-Resources??

[ibtoad]

Does anyone have a current email address for cfm-resources that actually
works??  Every one I try has been bounced back to me.

Thanks,
Rich



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Re: get the directory a file is in.

[Bryan LaPlante]

I think it is getDirectoryFromPath(script_name) if you use script_name it
will return the current directory otherwise just use the
c:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm approach.

- Original Message -
From: "Tony Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: get the directory a file is in.


> ExpandPath('relativepath/filebeingrun.cfm')
>
> > Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
> > processed is in?
> > Let's say, in a file
> >
> > C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm
> >
> > is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm
file?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)

[Howie Hamlin]

I've chatted with you on the phone before :-)

Howie

- Original Message - 
From: "Hoffman, Joe (CIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:34 PM
Subject: RE: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)


> Thanks ... but I don't chat.
> 
> 
> Joe Hoffman 
> 


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Re: get the directory a file is in.

[Tony Schreiber]

ExpandPath('relativepath/filebeingrun.cfm')

> Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
> processed is in?
> Let's say, in a file
> 
> C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm
> 
> is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm file?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> 
>
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RE: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application

[zac]

> You guys keep giving out good advice. Reinventing the wheel
> is not a good
> idea.

Unless thats all you do (CMS) in which case it might be a good idea. I am
just finishing off a basic CSM system built for precisely that purpose.


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RE: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)

[Hoffman, Joe (CIT)]

Thanks ... but I don't chat.


Joe Hoffman 


-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)


Ok, it's official.
Testing for cf-talk members: chat applet
NO MORE CHAR(8)

Log into chat.imvamp.com and let's try to discuss there
more efficiently.
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RE: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application

[Christopher Cortes]

You guys keep giving out good advice. Reinventing the wheel is not a good
idea. Look at a product like Spectra(RIP) which took a large team years to
architect, develop, and debug. I am not familiar with emPower but I am
familiar with Ektron and I would guess it is a quality product. Your client
probably does not have the time or budget to produce a rival product. You
should also remember that although you may have an ambition to develop the
product from scratch your client may not have the experience or grit to
support that kind of project. Foremost implementing a canned solution should
not impact your bottom line$$$, your client is buying a solution and should
not be paying for your code by line count.

Good Luck,
- Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application


Fouad,

While I can certainly appreciate your desire to land the project and provide
a well-built solution, you might want to consider incorporating the Ektron
piece into the application instead of figuring out ways to avoid its use. By
doing that, you're still managing the development of the project while
keeping your client's staff involved in the creation of their eBusiness
endeavor.

I'm assuming that your client is looking at Ektron's emPower suite. While I
don't know the requirements of the project, I can say that reinventing the
wheel usually doesn't make sense.

Rey Bango
Team Allaire...

- Original Message -
From: "fouad alfarhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application


> Hi all
>
> I'll have a second meeting with a company staff 48 hours from now to
discuss their website project. They have a big project that needs a content
publishing system. In this meeting I have to convince them that building
their project from scratch (by us) is much better than using a ready to go
system like Ektron. I already wrote down some points that I'll mention. I
just wanted to ask in case of someone got any study documents that talk
about this or some points that he wants to mention.
>
> Thanks for your time
> Fouad
>
>
>
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RE: Looking for a Good Search Solution

[Christopher Cortes]

Good advice. Verity should work for you, if I am understanding what it is
you would like to do. Your machine will take a beating while it is
generating the collections but if you run your routines at night or in the
early morning when you have no traffic it should not be an issue. I just
finished a Spectra site where the collections are destroyed and recreated
every morning to keep Verity Indices fresh. The process hits the server hard
and takes between 5 and 7 minutes but works fine.

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-Original Message-
From: Terry Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Looking for a Good Search Solution


huh?

actually WHY isnt verity good for you?

you said your pages are dynamic BUT you do not want to re-index often.  That
sounds like it is counter productive.  dynamic pages should be indexed
often.  However, you can index whenever you want...  every day, week, year,
hour, min...  (though i wouldnt recommend doing it in terms of minutes).
but whenever you want...


i think you need to explain your requirements a bit more in-depth to let ppl
help you out, but verity is very flexible...  its all about the code...


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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Looking for a Good Search Solution
>
>
> Hi all...
>
> I have been scratching my head trying to figure out a good
> searching solution.  Verity just doesn't seem to work for
> me  Most of the pages are dynamic and new content pages
> are added daily.  I don't want to re index the site all the
> time(or is that normal).
>
> Anyone have any good idea's on how to have a search function
> that searchs all the content and page's with db content other
> than verity?  Or some good tips to utilize verity better?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails CLICK!

[zac]

> Email messages with HTML (if designed correctly) are the same
> like webpages but have about 80% less graphics and resources

And an email message with a URL in it is just like a webpage with almost
100% less graphics and resources


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ClusterCats

[Joseph Thompson]

If any one has any experience in setting up ClusterCats in a Win2K
environment could they conact me on/off list?



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Re: more than slightly OT: html formatted e-mails CLICK!

[pan]

From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails CLICK!


> Email messages with HTML (if designed correctly) are the same
> like webpages but have about 80% less graphics and resources

email html (no matter the design) forces the user to deal with
..js naughtiness, tag attribute exploits, web bugs, at least 13
acitvex exploits, many file type association exploits, cookie intrusions,
and other potentially destructive problems

email html doubles (at a minimum) the byte size of an email even
if only "plain text" (i.e., no images, other mime types). 

email html often promotes style over substance which,
to many, is equivalent to a bad noise/signal ratio.

If you have solved all these problems, I'm listening,

Pan



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Re: VAMP Chat

[Dick Applebaum]

Michael

I haven't had a chance to get back to vamp yet. but have some questions.

How long does the chatter stay around?

Does the chat forum encourage "immediate" response at the expense of 
"considered" response?

Can the content be sorted/searched like  ug?

Can the content be selectively ignored or discarded?

Are there any permanent records/archieves, or do you have to "be 
there" when the answer/topic you seek is discussed?

Does a chat augment or replace an excellent UG such as this.

TIA

Dick

At 3:51 AM +0200 4/25/01, Michael Lugassy wrote:
>VAMP Chat experince with CF-Talk users was conducted succesfully!
>Thank to you guys we chatted about the future of cf-talk/community
>as we see it (chat based, without lags and other problems).
>
>It was fun, would love to do this again.
>Tell me what you think!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>log into here: http://chat.imvamp.com
>
>the app is ready, supports up to 500 users. no delays, easy to get
>answers and wonderful features.
>

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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails CLICK!

[Michael Lugassy]

What bandwidth? I'm surfing at 33.6 from home too.
Can't you see webpages?
Email messages with HTML (if designed correctly) are the same
like webpages but have about 80% less graphics and resources

check this link out:
http://www.imvamp.com/newsflash.html

This is how it should be.It was very succesful for us!!

Tell me what you think,

Thanks,

Michael Lugassy,
Senior Server Engineer
Interactive Music Ltd.
I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
http://www.imvamp.com
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- Original Message -
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


> While bandwidth may not be a concern to you, it is to me.  I live in
> the foothills,,. no DSL No cable just a modem at 31.2Kb at best.
>
> Dick
>
> At 8:34 PM -0400 4/24/01, Dave wrote:
> >Agree with you, HTML email is the way to go. We send multipart text/html
and
> >also the html-commented bit as per last weeks thread on the subject.
> >Bandwidth is no longer the concern it was last year (or was it the year
> >before?)
> >
> >(But I think Netscape is closest so far to meeting w3c "standard")
>
>
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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Dick Applebaum]

While bandwidth may not be a concern to you, it is to me.  I live in 
the foothills,,. no DSL No cable just a modem at 31.2Kb at best.

Dick

At 8:34 PM -0400 4/24/01, Dave wrote:
>Agree with you, HTML email is the way to go. We send multipart text/html and
>also the html-commented bit as per last weeks thread on the subject.
>Bandwidth is no longer the concern it was last year (or was it the year
>before?)
>
>(But I think Netscape is closest so far to meeting w3c "standard")

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Re: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application

[Rey Bango]

Fouad,

While I can certainly appreciate your desire to land the project and provide
a well-built solution, you might want to consider incorporating the Ektron
piece into the application instead of figuring out ways to avoid its use. By
doing that, you're still managing the development of the project while
keeping your client's staff involved in the creation of their eBusiness
endeavor.

I'm assuming that your client is looking at Ektron's emPower suite. While I
don't know the requirements of the project, I can say that reinventing the
wheel usually doesn't make sense.

Rey Bango
Team Allaire...

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From: "fouad alfarhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application


> Hi all
>
> I'll have a second meeting with a company staff 48 hours from now to
discuss their website project. They have a big project that needs a content
publishing system. In this meeting I have to convince them that building
their project from scratch (by us) is much better than using a ready to go
system like Ektron. I already wrote down some points that I'll mention. I
just wanted to ask in case of someone got any study documents that talk
about this or some points that he wants to mention.
>
> Thanks for your time
> Fouad
>
>
>
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VAMP Chat

[Michael Lugassy]

VAMP Chat experince with CF-Talk users was conducted succesfully!
Thank to you guys we chatted about the future of cf-talk/community
as we see it (chat based, without lags and other problems).

It was fun, would love to do this again.
Tell me what you think!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
log into here: http://chat.imvamp.com

the app is ready, supports up to 500 users. no delays, easy to get
answers and wonderful features.


Thanks,
Michael Lugassy,
Senior Server Engineer
Interactive Music Ltd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Dave]

Agree with you, HTML email is the way to go. We send multipart text/html and
also the html-commented bit as per last weeks thread on the subject.
Bandwidth is no longer the concern it was last year (or was it the year
before?)

(But I think Netscape is closest so far to meeting w3c "standard")
D.


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


> will you just listen?
> we send about 100 newsletters.
> and it's right the opposite.
> HTML is giving out more clickthrough rate
> then this ugly texty blexty.
>
> Michael.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:36 AM
> Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
>
>
> > Note that most ugs don't accept html format emails... too much
bandwidth.
> >
> > IMO, html formatted email is like glitzy junk mail straight to the
> trash
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > At 1:09 AM +0200 4/25/01, Michael Lugassy wrote:
> > >Writing for non-html-support email programs are like writing html
> > >for netscape
> > >
> > >the war is over my friends..
> > >
> > >Michael.
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "John Fix 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM
> > >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
> > >
> > >
> > >>  LOL!  So true.
> > >>
> > >>  >-Original Message-
> > >>  >From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>  >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:03 PM
> > >>  >To: CF-Talk
> > >>  >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
> > >  > >
> >
> >
>
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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[zac]

> HTML is giving out more clickthrough rate
> then this ugly texty blexty.

What a repulsive reason to corrupt a standard

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ODBC Error

[Jon Hall]

I'm getting this error when executing a stored procedure occasionally under
load.

Error Diagnostic Information
ODBC Error Code = 01000 (General warning)
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]rotation

Anyone know what a general warning means?

jon


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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Michael Lugassy]

will you just listen?
we send about 100 newsletters.
and it's right the opposite.
HTML is giving out more clickthrough rate
then this ugly texty blexty.

Michael.

- Original Message -
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


> Note that most ugs don't accept html format emails... too much bandwidth.
>
> IMO, html formatted email is like glitzy junk mail straight to the
trash
>
> Dick
>
> At 1:09 AM +0200 4/25/01, Michael Lugassy wrote:
> >Writing for non-html-support email programs are like writing html
> >for netscape
> >
> >the war is over my friends..
> >
> >Michael.
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "John Fix 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM
> >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
> >
> >
> >>  LOL!  So true.
> >>
> >>  >-Original Message-
> >>  >From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>  >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:03 PM
> >>  >To: CF-Talk
> >>  >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
> >>  >
> >>  >Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
> >  > >
>
>
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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[zac]

> Writing for non-html-support email programs are like writing html
> for netscape

This isn't even remotely similar.

> the war is over my friends..

Yah...who needs standards compliance anyway. Hell, lets just start making
our own TCP/IP headers while we're at it.


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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Dick Applebaum]

Note that most ugs don't accept html format emails... too much bandwidth.

IMO, html formatted email is like glitzy junk mail straight to the trash

Dick

At 1:09 AM +0200 4/25/01, Michael Lugassy wrote:
>Writing for non-html-support email programs are like writing html
>for netscape
>
>the war is over my friends..
>
>Michael.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "John Fix 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM
>Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
>
>
>>  LOL!  So true.
>>
>>  >-Original Message-
>>  >From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:03 PM
>>  >To: CF-Talk
>>  >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
>>  >
>>  >Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
>  > >

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Vamp Chat vs CF based Chat

[Dick Applebaum]

A first look at the Vamp chat gave a good impression.

I am not too excited with client-side Java, though.

I would like to see a good cf chat, that maybe used Flash on the clientside.

One that could be customized for a customer' needs.

Dick

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Re: HELP

[Dick Applebaum]

change

  CONTAINS '#category#'

to

  LIKE '%#category#%'


Better yet, normalize the db... each field should be atomic

this form of search is very slow as each record must be examined... 
if the field were atomic, the search could take place entirely in the 
indexes.

the point here, is to let the *relational* aspect of the db work for you!

hth

dick


At 4:24 PM -0700 4/24/01, Metzy Martinez wrote:
>Hello-
>
>I have a problem.  I have a bridge table and in that table i have
>category
>   and
>category_other columns
>
>category_other is a comma delimited list of all other types of categories it
>can
>
>my question is how can i search this list if i'm searching for one specific
>category for example clubs and i want to know if it is also located in the
>category_others
>
>**can i use the word contains
>
>
>
>
>
>   Select x.*
>   From #table# x, local_bridge l
>   Where (((l.Category_Others CONTAINS '#category#') or (l.category =
>#category#)) and (x.id = l.co_id))
>
>   AND
>   ((x.Name LIKE '%#name#%'))
>   AND
>   ((x.CategoryMain = '#category#') OR
>   (x.CategoryOther = '#category#'))
>AND
>   (x.Street1 LIKE '%#street#%')
>   AND
>   ((x.Keywords LIKE '%#keyword#%') OR
>   (x.Name LIKE '%#keyword#%') OR
>   (x.Description LIKE '%#keyword#%'))
>   AND (x.AreaOfTown = '#area#') 
>   AND (x.NumberOfVotes > 0)
>   AND (x.reviewid <> '') 
>   AND (x.AwardsID <> '')
>   ORDER BY #OrderBy#
>   
>
>
>
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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Jon Hall]

I've got to disagree stongly with this. If you have 1000 users, 20% = 200
users who are going to give you a call or send an email. Not only that,
these are the users you want to speak to the least, because they still dont
know how to upgrade their browser or email client.

I am currently finishing up rewriting a program for a customer basically
from the ground up, because it was TOO powerful for the end user  to
understand. Every screen had context sensitive help too. However all of the
words on the screen, and all those little input and select boxes confused
the @(#$%%ing moron ;-)

Never underestimate the power of stupidity, dont give the end user any
choices, and never ever leave the slightest possible chance that one of them
might have to contact you about their Netscape 2.0 running on Windows 3.1.

A little extra time taking into consideration compatibility, will save the
most time in the long run.

my .02

jon
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


> Writing for non-html-support email programs are like writing html
> for netscape
>
> the war is over my friends..
>
> Michael.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Fix 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM
> Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
>
>
> > LOL!  So true.
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:03 PM
> > >To: CF-Talk
> > >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
> > >
> > >
> > >> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
> > >
> > >Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Session implementation

[Joshua Meekhof]

I would like to figure out the deep dark implementation details of cold
fusion sessions.

Is there any way I can "back into" it? i.e. Can you reference a session
variable as a hidden application variable?


I would like to be able to look at _ALL_ sessions, and determine which
keys to remove
from the application based upon the sessions that have expired.


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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[zac]

> They do indirectly - MIME encoding for internet mail supports HTML.

I would suggest that this is a separate issue and that support in the MIME
format for HTML data does not imply anything beyond that basic fact.


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RE: CFX_IMAGE

[Shane Witbeck]

I have used it and have not had any problems.

Shane

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFX_IMAGE


I'm about to use the tag CFX_IMAGE extensivley on my new project.
Is it reliable enough? Is there anything I should consider? mem usage?
performance? Is there a better tag?

I'd love to hear your comments about this OBJECT.

Thanks,

Michael Lugassy,
Senior Server Engineer
Interactive Music Ltd.

I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
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RE: SQL INSERTS - return ID

[mjohnson]

Suppresses the counting of the records.  Normally a SQL statement stuck
within a CFQUERY tag can only return one record set.  If I didn't set
NOCOUNT off then it would have returned 0 records because the insert
returned 0 records.  However what I really want is the results from the
second query.  The select statement.  SET NOCOUNT allows me to get that.

It also allows you to do groups of many queries within one CFQUERY statement
as long as only one of them is a select statement.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Metzy Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL INSERTS - return ID


I had the same problem a few days ago and that is the way i solved with
SELECT @@IDENTITY

then you are able to retrieve the id and even feed it to another stored proc
by specifying the name of stored proc
ex.
#getreal.id#

what does SET NOCOUNT OFF due?

Metzy



-Original Message-
From: mjohnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL INSERTS - return ID


Using SQL Server you can either do it with a stored procedure or do
something like this.



Mark

-Original Message-
From: Matt Eschenbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL INSERTS - return ID


Anyone know a trick to return the ID of a record just Inserted into a table?

Sincerely,

Matthew M. Eschenbaum
Allaire Certified Professional
DevTech Inc.
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206.956.0888
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Re: Session implementation

[Jeffry Houser]

   Look into your documentation on the CFAPPLICATION tag.

ColdFusion keeps track of two values, CFID and CFTOKEN.  CFID 
increments (starting from 1?) and CFTOKEN is generated randomly (i don't 
know the formula).


At 12:55 PM 04/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone understand how Cold Fusion implements and associates
>sessions to applications?
>
>
>Josh Meekhof
>
>
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RE: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)

[Terry Bader]

it was char(9)


Terry Bader
IT/Web Specialist
Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
EDO Corp - Combat Systems
(757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)
> 
> 
> Ok, it's official.
> Testing for cf-talk members: chat applet
> NO MORE CHAR(8)
> 
> Log into chat.imvamp.com and let's try to discuss there
> more efficiently.
> 
> 
>
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RE: Character code for a TAB

[Jones, Matt]

Can we please stop this, on this list.
I liken this to span.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB


Don't wait for fireworks..
let's try the new chat solution
chat.imvamp.com

- Original Message -
From: "Terry Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB


> char(09), will that work???
>
> **sits back and waits for fireworks
>
>
> Terry Bader
> IT/Web Specialist
> Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> EDO Corp - Combat Systems
> (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> (757)581-5981 - Mobile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> icq: 5202487   aim: lv2bounce
> http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader
>
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > If anyone else says char(09) I'm gonna frakk :)
> > CHAT SOLUTION NOW
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Steven A. del Sol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > > I THINK IT IS CHAR(09)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:10 PM 4/24/2001 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >There must be a way to let us know the question has been answered!
> > > >Let's think about it!
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:51 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think the problem is more due to the fact that the
> > responses are
> > more
> > > > > "hey, I know the answer to this!!!" repetitions than
> > meant to clog the
> > > >list.
> > > > > It's one of the downsides of using an e-mail list
> > versus some other
> > > >message
> > > > > base format.  All of the replies probably got sent out
> > at the same
> > time
> > > >and
> > > > > the "delay" the list actually getting them is more due
> > to email lag
> > than
> > > > > anything else.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's great to get a response and frustrating not to,
> > and I think all
> > of us
> > > > > have experienced both sides of that coin.  So to make
> > up for it, when
> > we
> > > > > know how to help someone we reflexively hit reply.  The
> > cascade effect
> > is
> > > > > what we all see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hatton Humphrey
> > > > >
> > > > > "Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for more
> > > > > transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and
> > requests tapes
> > of
> > > > > Pastor Jack's sermons." - From "Real Church Bulletin Bloopers"
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about everyone bookmarks this page
> > (http://www.asciitable.com/),
> > > > > > now...then no-one should ever have to ask again. Except of
> > course
> > > >the
> > > > > > newcomers. And those we'll beat into submission with
> > a big ole CF
> > book
> > > >or
> > > > > > something...?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Erika
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the
> > same answer
> > > > > > to a pretty easy question.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael Lugassy
> > > > > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Looking for a Good Search Solution

[Michael Lugassy]

Verity would be great for you.
does your info must be updated on-the-fly?
if not, you can purge and re-index daily (That's what I do).
If yes, just use action=update and action=optimize from time
to time (about 3 times a day).

Anyhow, verity can index both QUERY driven data and regular
files. it's absolutly great one of the strongest features that
are included with CF.

Thanks,

Michael Lugassy,
Senior Server Engineer
Interactive Music Ltd.
I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:19 PM
Subject: Looking for a Good Search Solution


> Hi all...
>
> I have been scratching my head trying to figure out a good searching
solution.  Verity just doesn't seem to work for me  Most of the pages
are dynamic and new content pages are added daily.  I don't want to re index
the site all the time(or is that normal).
>
> Anyone have any good idea's on how to have a search function that searchs
all the content and page's with db content other than verity?  Or some good
tips to utilize verity better?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Michael Lugassy]

Writing for non-html-support email programs are like writing html
for netscape

the war is over my friends..

Michael.

- Original Message -
From: "John Fix 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


> LOL!  So true.
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:03 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
> >
> >
> >> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
> >
> >Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
> >
>
>
>
>
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RE: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help

[Jennifer]

At 03:22 PM 4/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Hubert,
>
>What operating system are you running? Generally I would suggest that you
>run Studio on an NT machine, workstation is fine. From the sound of your
>response I think you might be running 98, right? Remember that windows 98
>shares memory across all running applications, so a problem in one will
>impact many. The root of the problem might not be ColdFusion Studio. NT will
>run Studio in its own memory space, and will protect it from memory issues
>like you are describing.

That's why I'm having that problem and I suspect that was why my index 
crashed. Win 98 memory management totally sucks and Win ME is a new front 
on top of Win 98.

Bah.

It is irritating but I can see that it would be useful as the default. I'd 
still like to turn it off.


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RE: Db to web: Replacing odd ascii characters in db to web

[Brad Comer]

good luck i have ran into the same thing about 2 years agowe ended up
having the sec. retype themthat was 2 years ago thoughhopefully
someone else has come up with somehting to accomondate for this now!

good luck!
btc

-Original Message-
From: Paul Sinclair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Db to web: Replacing odd ascii characters in db to web


I'm managing a site where articles from a magazine are being cut and pasted
into a text entry field. The people doing the actual cut and paste routine
are starting from a Quark file. When they cut the text out of Quark and into
the db, it is putting in all sorts of strange characters - probably high
ascii characters. When a dynamically created cfm page drawing its content
from the database is displayed, it puts all sorts of heiroglyphics in the
output. For example, apostrophes and emdashes show up as a hollow square -
that sort of thing.

I've tried to do a replace function on the article's body and by and large
it works. But I don't have any way of knowing what kind of odd characters
are going to be in the database so I can't anticipate every odd character.

Is there some way to handle this type problem?

Thanks for any suggestions/solutions.

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RE: Looking for a Good Search Solution

[Terry Bader]

huh?

actually WHY isnt verity good for you?

you said your pages are dynamic BUT you do not want to re-index often.  That
sounds like it is counter productive.  dynamic pages should be indexed
often.  However, you can index whenever you want...  every day, week, year,
hour, min...  (though i wouldnt recommend doing it in terms of minutes)
but whenever you want...


i think you need to explain your requirements a bit more in-depth to let ppl
help you out, but verity is very flexible...  its all about the code...


Terry Bader
IT/Web Specialist
Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
EDO Corp - Combat Systems
(757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Looking for a Good Search Solution
> 
> 
> Hi all...
> 
> I have been scratching my head trying to figure out a good 
> searching solution.  Verity just doesn't seem to work for 
> me  Most of the pages are dynamic and new content pages 
> are added daily.  I don't want to re index the site all the 
> time(or is that normal).
> 
> Anyone have any good idea's on how to have a search function 
> that searchs all the content and page's with db content other 
> than verity?  Or some good tips to utilize verity better?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
>
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RE: CFTRY / CFCATCH questions

[Dave Watts]

> > I'd argue that you're best off putting TYPE="all" last anyway, 
> > though.
>
> And on another note, if you use type="ANY" instead of "ALL", it 
> will work ;o)  Sorry, I couldn't resist.
>
> I love error handling in CF, especially in 4.5+, since it's very
> advanced for a "tag based language". One of the places it's really
> helped is this drug testing application I've done.

Well, I guess I'd have failed the test.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)

[Michael Dinowitz]

Official?


> Ok, it's official.
> Testing for cf-talk members: chat applet
> NO MORE CHAR(8)
>
> Log into chat.imvamp.com and let's try to discuss there
> more efficiently.
>
>
>
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RE: get the directory a file is in.

[Dave Watts]

> Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
> processed is in? Let's say, in a file
>
> C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm
> 
> is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm
> file?

Yes, you can reference the CGI.CF_TEMPLATE_PATH variable, which will contain
the entire string "C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm". You can then just parse out
the part after the last slash, and that's your path.

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RE: Session implementation

[Greg Jordan]

what I think Cameron means is, what is your specific issue?

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Session implementation


Yes.  Next question please?

-Cameron


Cameron Childress
elliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963

> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Meekhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Session implementation
>
>
> Does anyone understand how Cold Fusion implements and associates
> sessions to applications?
>
>
> Josh Meekhof
>
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ANNOUNCE: CF-TALK on CHAT! (BETA)

[Michael Lugassy]

Ok, it's official.
Testing for cf-talk members: chat applet
NO MORE CHAR(8)

Log into chat.imvamp.com and let's try to discuss there
more efficiently.


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Re: 100s of FTP Accounts

[Michael Lugassy]

yea. kinda.

CF-TALK is on trial tonight in chat.imvamp.com
let's try it guys.


- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Olive, CIO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: 100s of FTP Accounts


> have i left you speechless? :)
>
> chris olive, cio
> cresco technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.crescotech.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tobe Goldfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: 100s of FTP Accounts
>
>
> At 11:51 AM 4/24/2001 , you wrote:
> >you could always write a WSH script to use ADSI to do that.
> >
> >chris olive, cio
> >cresco technologies
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.crescotech.com
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:22 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: 100s of FTP Accounts
> >
> >
> >We're about to offer all of our users and client complete ftp access to
> 10mb
> >of storage.
> >Every user will have his own directory on our NT machine and ftp account
> >that will
> >log him automaticlly to HIS special directory.
> >
> >What is the best way to seperate directories and accounts without the
need
> >to create
> >1000s of FTP accounts under NT?
> >
> >I've heard somewhere that by logging onto FTP with a username that is the
> >same
> >as on of the directories, the user automaticlly logs inside it. but I
don't
> >want to assign
> >NT account to every user... :( - is it somehow possible with Anonymous
FTP?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Michael Lugassy
> >Interactive Music Ltd.
> >I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
> >http://www.imvamp.com
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
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Re: Session implementation

[Joshua Meekhof]

Oh great one, please elucidate me.


Cameron Childress wrote:
> 
> Yes.  Next question please?
> 
> -Cameron
> 
> 
> Cameron Childress
> elliptIQ Inc.
> p.770.460.7277.232
> f.770.460.0963
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joshua Meekhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:55 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Session implementation
> >
> >
> > Does anyone understand how Cold Fusion implements and associates
> > sessions to applications?
> >
> >
> > Josh Meekhof
> >
>
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Re: Character code for a TAB

[Michael Lugassy]

Don't wait for fireworks..
let's try the new chat solution
chat.imvamp.com

- Original Message -
From: "Terry Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB


> char(09), will that work???
>
> **sits back and waits for fireworks
>
>
> Terry Bader
> IT/Web Specialist
> Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> EDO Corp - Combat Systems
> (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> (757)581-5981 - Mobile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> icq: 5202487   aim: lv2bounce
> http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader
>
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > If anyone else says char(09) I'm gonna frakk :)
> > CHAT SOLUTION NOW
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Steven A. del Sol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > > I THINK IT IS CHAR(09)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:10 PM 4/24/2001 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >There must be a way to let us know the question has been answered!
> > > >Let's think about it!
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:51 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think the problem is more due to the fact that the
> > responses are
> > more
> > > > > "hey, I know the answer to this!!!" repetitions than
> > meant to clog the
> > > >list.
> > > > > It's one of the downsides of using an e-mail list
> > versus some other
> > > >message
> > > > > base format.  All of the replies probably got sent out
> > at the same
> > time
> > > >and
> > > > > the "delay" the list actually getting them is more due
> > to email lag
> > than
> > > > > anything else.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's great to get a response and frustrating not to,
> > and I think all
> > of us
> > > > > have experienced both sides of that coin.  So to make
> > up for it, when
> > we
> > > > > know how to help someone we reflexively hit reply.  The
> > cascade effect
> > is
> > > > > what we all see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hatton Humphrey
> > > > >
> > > > > "Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for more
> > > > > transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and
> > requests tapes
> > of
> > > > > Pastor Jack's sermons." - From "Real Church Bulletin Bloopers"
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about everyone bookmarks this page
> > (http://www.asciitable.com/),
> > > > > > now...then no-one should ever have to ask again. Except of
> > course
> > > >the
> > > > > > newcomers. And those we'll beat into submission with
> > a big ole CF
> > book
> > > >or
> > > > > > something...?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Erika
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the
> > same answer
> > > > > > to a pretty easy question.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael Lugassy
> > > > > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Michael Lugassy]

PUT SOME COOL NICKNAMES and come on.
let's try it for tonight.

Michael.

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB


> A complete list of ALL CF functions was posted up to the front of
> www.houseoffusion.com a number of weeks back. And there's always the
> standard docs.
>
> Message sent by user at 2:05. Message recieved at 2:06.
>
> > What would even be better than a chat room would be to have a collection
> of
> > descriptions of all the tags and functions available and the correct
> syntax
> > to use them properly ... almost like a reference manual of some kind. ;)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
> > Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > | Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
> > | with answers... it'd be faster tho
> > |
> > | Dick
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Michael Lugassy]

Here's a chat for us:
chat.imvamp.com > lobby

it's the new DIGICHAT application, very quick. very stable.
support instant/private messaging and stuff.
it can accomadate upto 500 users.

are u still here?

Michael.


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB


> A complete list of ALL CF functions was posted up to the front of
> www.houseoffusion.com a number of weeks back. And there's always the
> standard docs.
>
>
> > What would even be better than a chat room would be to have a collection
> of
> > descriptions of all the tags and functions available and the correct
> syntax
> > to use them properly ... almost like a reference manual of some kind. ;)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
> > Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > | Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
> > | with answers... it'd be faster tho
> > |
> > | Dick
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application

[Michael Lugassy]

We've implemented a content publishing system at imvamp.com
feel free to contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Michael Lugassy,
Senior Server Engineer
Interactive Music Ltd.
I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
http://www.imvamp.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: "fouad alfarhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:56 PM
Subject: Content Publishing System VS. Customized Application


> Hi all
>
> I'll have a second meeting with a company staff 48 hours from now to
discuss their website project. They have a big project that needs a content
publishing system. In this meeting I have to convince them that building
their project from scratch (by us) is much better than using a ready to go
system like Ektron. I already wrote down some points that I'll mention. I
just wanted to ask in case of someone got any study documents that talk
about this or some points that he wants to mention.
>
> Thanks for your time
> Fouad
>
>
>
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RE: SQL INSERTS - return ID

[Metzy Martinez]

I had the same problem a few days ago and that is the way i solved with
SELECT @@IDENTITY

then you are able to retrieve the id and even feed it to another stored proc
by specifying the name of stored proc
ex.
#getreal.id#

what does SET NOCOUNT OFF due?

Metzy



-Original Message-
From: mjohnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL INSERTS - return ID


Using SQL Server you can either do it with a stored procedure or do
something like this.



Mark

-Original Message-
From: Matt Eschenbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL INSERTS - return ID


Anyone know a trick to return the ID of a record just Inserted into a table?

Sincerely,

Matthew M. Eschenbaum
Allaire Certified Professional
DevTech Inc.
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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[John Fix 3rd]

LOL!  So true.

>-Original Message-
>From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:03 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails
>
>
>> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
>
>Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
>



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Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[Howie Hamlin]

They do indirectly - MIME encoding for internet mail supports HTML.

Howie

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Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


> > Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!
>
> Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.
>
>
>
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RE: Duplicate answers (was: Character code for a TAB)

[C. Hatton Humphrey]

'course then again, I'm surprised nobody has brought up the possibility of
using a Newsgroup, which would be sinfully easy to start.

Hatton

> > > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the same answer
> > > to a pretty easy question.
> > >
> > > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> >
> > Here's your answer:
> >
> > http://forums.allaire.com/
> >
> > Seriously, if you're not willing to accept the limitations of a
> mail list,
> > you probably shouldn't be using a mail list. This is how mail
> > lists work. On
> > the upside, they don't require the active work that a web-based forum
> > requires, and typically you get responses much faster, while
> still having
> > the ability to read questions and answers from yesterday.
> >
> > Interestingly enough, at this point, more people (now including
> > myself) have
> > posted about the duplicate answers than posted the answers themselves.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > fax: (202) 797-5444
>
> I'd also like to add that you get many different perspectives
> regarding the questions, different solutions to the same problem
> might make you think differently about other problems you are
> having or have had.  Of course there is always the chance that
> you will get the same exact, one-line answer from 10 people, but...


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Db to web: Replacing odd ascii characters in db to web

[Paul Sinclair]

I'm managing a site where articles from a magazine are being cut and pasted
into a text entry field. The people doing the actual cut and paste routine
are starting from a Quark file. When they cut the text out of Quark and into
the db, it is putting in all sorts of strange characters - probably high
ascii characters. When a dynamically created cfm page drawing its content
from the database is displayed, it puts all sorts of heiroglyphics in the
output. For example, apostrophes and emdashes show up as a hollow square -
that sort of thing.

I've tried to do a replace function on the article's body and by and large
it works. But I don't have any way of knowing what kind of odd characters
are going to be in the database so I can't anticipate every odd character.

Is there some way to handle this type problem?

Thanks for any suggestions/solutions.

Paul Sinclair



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Re: get the directory a file is in.

[jeff tapper]

try GetCurrentTemplatePath() and / or GetBaseTemplatePath()
depending on customtag usage.

At 02:55 PM 4/24/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
>processed is in?
>Let's say, in a file
>
>C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm
>
>is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm file?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
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Re: get the directory a file is in.

[Howie Hamlin]

Sure - use the GetCurrentTemplatePath function.

HTH,

Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
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631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server

- Original Message -
From: "river" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: get the directory a file is in.


> Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
> processed is in?
> Let's say, in a file
>
> C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm
>
> is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm file?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: get the directory a file is in.

[David E. Crawford]

Try the GetBaseTemplatePath() function.

DC

- Original Message -
From: "river" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 14:55
Subject: get the directory a file is in.


> Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
> processed is in?
> Let's say, in a file
>
> C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm
>
> is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm file?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
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HELP

[Metzy Martinez]

Hello-

I have a problem.  I have a bridge table and in that table i have
category
  and
category_other columns

category_other is a comma delimited list of all other types of categories it
can

my question is how can i search this list if i'm searching for one specific
category for example clubs and i want to know if it is also located in the
category_others

**can i use the word contains





Select x.*
From #table# x, local_bridge l
Where (((l.Category_Others CONTAINS '#category#') or (l.category =
#category#)) and (x.id = l.co_id))

AND
((x.Name LIKE '%#name#%'))
AND
((x.CategoryMain = '#category#') OR
(x.CategoryOther = '#category#'))
 AND
(x.Street1 LIKE '%#street#%')
AND
((x.Keywords LIKE '%#keyword#%') OR
(x.Name LIKE '%#keyword#%') OR
(x.Description LIKE '%#keyword#%'))
AND (x.AreaOfTown = '#area#') 
AND (x.NumberOfVotes > 0)
AND (x.reviewid <> '') 
AND (x.AwardsID <> '')
 ORDER BY #OrderBy#



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RE: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help

[Christopher Cortes]

Hubert,

What operating system are you running? Generally I would suggest that you
run Studio on an NT machine, workstation is fine. From the sound of your
response I think you might be running 98, right? Remember that windows 98
shares memory across all running applications, so a problem in one will
impact many. The root of the problem might not be ColdFusion Studio. NT will
run Studio in its own memory space, and will protect it from memory issues
like you are describing.

- Chris


Christopher Cortes   |Coming Q3 2001:
Consultant   |
Stonebridge Technologies, Inc.   | ’Optimizing ColdFusion’
 Putting Technology To Work  |   By
Visit us at www.sbti.com |   Christopher Cortes
Ofc: 713.985.6244 cel: 281.235.6100  | www.osborne.com
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-Original Message-
From: Hubert Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help


Chris,

Thanks for the advice.  Before I read your mail, however, I uninstalled then
reinstalled Studio 4.5.2 as the solution to the problem.  When the
reinstalled program was setting its indexes, however, it hung, just as it
had the first time, and help searches were rendered impossible. Also, when I
have it running, my computer keeps giving me warnings about low system
resources, even when there are few other programs running at the same time.
I'm planning to stop using it, as I think it is very buggy.  Does Allaire
Corp. have a department to deal with complaints about bugs?

Hubert

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Cortes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help


> Hubert,
>
> Studio has its own Verity collection that stores the ColdFusion indices.
> Renaming the directory where it is stored will trick Studio into
recreating
> the collections.
>
> First close studio and then go to your ColdFusion Studio installation
> directory, maybe:
>
> "c:/program files/allaire/ColdFusion Studio
4x/Verity/Collections/Searchable
> Help"
>
> Rename the "Searchable help" directory to anything else, now launch studio
> and try to use your help search again. It should prompt you to regenerate
> the collection. Hope that does the trick for you, good luck.
>
> - Chris
>
> 
> Christopher Cortes   |Coming Q3 2001:
> Consultant   |
> Stonebridge Technologies, Inc.   | 'Optimizing ColdFusion'
>  Putting Technology To Work  |   By
> Visit us at www.sbti.com |   Christopher Cortes
> Ofc: 713.985.6244 cel: 281.235.6100  | www.osborne.com
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hubert Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:06 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help
>
>
> Hi,
>
> While Studio 4.5.2 was indexing its help files for the first time, as a
> result of a search I was trying to do, my computer froze.  Now, whatever I
> try to search for, I get the reply "No matches found" (even for words like
> "form" and "template", which I tried to be absolutely sure about the
> situation).  What can I do to rectify the situation?
>
> Sincerely,
> ---
> Hubert Earl
>
> ICQ#: 16199853
> AIM: hubertfme
>
> My Jamaican Art, Craft & More Online Store:
> http://www.angelfire.com/ny/hearl/link_page_on_angelfire.html
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Looking for a Good Search Solution

[Michael Ross]

Hi all...

I have been scratching my head trying to figure out a good searching solution.  Verity 
just doesn't seem to work for me  Most of the pages are dynamic and new content 
pages are added daily.  I don't want to re index the site all the time(or is that 
normal).

Anyone have any good idea's on how to have a search function that searchs all the 
content and page's with db content other than verity?  Or some good tips to utilize 
verity better?

Thanks


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Re: Validate a string for a valid directory name?

[Bryan LaPlante]

try

code

- Original Message -
From: "river" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Validate a string for a valid directory name?


> What's the best way to validate a string for a valid directory name?  I am
> trying to create a form that creates a folder with the name that's
specified
> in the form.  Entering a text "MyDocument" in a textbox and hitting
"Submit"
> creates a folder with the name MyDocument.
>
> I need to check this string for the valid folder/directory name under
> Windows NT.  What would be the best way of doing it?  Is there a custom
tag?
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
>
>
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Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Todd Ashworth]

I know .. I was being a tiny bit sarcastic ;)

Todd Ashworth --
Certified ColdFusion Developer
Network Administrator

Saber Corporation
314 Oakland Ave.
Rock Hill, SC 29730
(803) 327-0137 [111]

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB


| A complete list of ALL CF functions was posted up to the front of
| www.houseoffusion.com a number of weeks back. And there's always the
| standard docs.
|
|
| > What would even be better than a chat room would be to have a collection
| of
| > descriptions of all the tags and functions available and the correct
| syntax
| > to use them properly ... almost like a reference manual of some kind. ;)
| >
| > Todd
| >
| > - Original Message -
| > From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
| > Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB
| >
| >
| > | Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
| > | with answers... it'd be faster tho
| > |
| > | Dick
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
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RE: 100s of FTP Accounts

[Christopher Olive, CIO]

have i left you speechless? :)

chris olive, cio
cresco technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Tobe Goldfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 100s of FTP Accounts


At 11:51 AM 4/24/2001 , you wrote:
>you could always write a WSH script to use ADSI to do that.
>
>chris olive, cio
>cresco technologies
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.crescotech.com
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:22 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: 100s of FTP Accounts
>
>
>We're about to offer all of our users and client complete ftp access to
10mb
>of storage.
>Every user will have his own directory on our NT machine and ftp account
>that will
>log him automaticlly to HIS special directory.
>
>What is the best way to seperate directories and accounts without the need
>to create
>1000s of FTP accounts under NT?
>
>I've heard somewhere that by logging onto FTP with a username that is the
>same
>as on of the directories, the user automaticlly logs inside it. but I don't
>want to assign
>NT account to every user... :( - is it somehow possible with Anonymous FTP?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Michael Lugassy
>Interactive Music Ltd.
>I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
>http://www.imvamp.com
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>
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Re: [OT:IBM Websphere, good and bad points?]

[Alex]

I like JBoss myself. 
Here is a discussion link.

http://java.isavvix.com/forums/viewThread.jsp?forum=36&thread=33



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RE: Session implementation

[Cameron Childress]

Yes.  Next question please?

-Cameron


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> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Meekhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Session implementation
> 
> 
> Does anyone understand how Cold Fusion implements and associates
> sessions to applications?
> 
> 
> Josh Meekhof
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Where can I get a copy of Studio 4.5.1?

[Hubert Earl]

Hi,

Where can I get a copy of Studio 4.5.1?  All I'm seeing on the net are sites for 
Studio 4.5.2.

Sincerely,
---
Hubert Earl

ICQ#: 16199853
AIM: hubertfme



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RE: autonumbering in oracle

[Braver, Ben]

Mark,

Just an FYI-

You don't need to "reproduce SQL server's autoincrement feature", as Oracle
already has its own Sequence functionality, CREATE SEQUENCE. And you don't
need a trigger, Oracle sequences work on normal insert statements.

Much simpler...

Ben

-Original Message-
From: Mark Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: autonumbering in oracle


standard way is to create a sequence and then use a trigger when inserting 
a row into the table, rather than explain any further, here's some code...

/* dummy table */
CREATE TABLE test (
 ID integer NOT NULL ,
 sometext varchar2(50) NOT NULL ,
 PRIMARY KEY (ID)
 );

/* Sequence and trigger to reproduce SQL server autoincrement feature */
CREATE SEQUENCE testID NOCACHE;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER test_AutoID
BEFORE INSERT ON test
FOR EACH ROW
BEGIN
 SELECT testID.NextVal
 INTO :new.ID
 FROM dual;
END test_AutoID;



Mark




At 05:34 PM 4/24/2001, you wrote:
>I tried to use the download custom CF_max_id to do the autonumbering
>for inserting a new row into a oracle database table but the custom
>tag failed.  I am wondering if anyone knows oracle have idea how to
>do it.  I have the first column in the table named "ContentId"
>defined with datatype "number".  I would like to have the contentid
>incremented by 1 for each now row inserted.  Someone works with
>oracle please let me know how to do this.
>
>thanks
>
>
>
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Re: a "must "select for the select menu

[Tony Schreiber]

1) If you remove the  from the list then the
first generated option will be selected and there will be no "null" values
to pick and thus, something will always be selected.

However, since this may result in a user mis-non-selecting something ( ;p
), then you might want to:

2) Add 

3) Use CFFORM for the same thing (I think)

4) Write youre own javascript to check for that before submission.

> I do have a select box which is populated from the query 
> i cant this to make a " must" selct select menu
> what i want is that the user "must"  select the one from the select menu. should 
>leave it unselected please suggest
> thanks
> -paul
> the code is
> --- 
> 
>   
>   
>
> value="#qry_get_roles.rec_id#">#qry_get_roles.role_name#- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> #role_type#
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[McAtee, Malcolm]

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

he's intimating HTML readers will not display the content within the .

-Original Message-
From: McAtee, Malcolm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails


I am sorry Michael I didn't quite understand this.



-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 3:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

What we do is simple:

Just start the message like this:











That's the way Amazon and Others send their newsletters.
We've succesfully implemeneted this for all of our newsletters (sent you one
offlist).
Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!

Thanks,

Michael Lugassy
Interactive Music Ltd.
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RE: slightly OT: html formatted e-mails

[zac]

> Note that 80%+ of the e-mail programs are supporting HTML!

Note that 0% of the internet standards for mail support it.

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RE: Carolina CF User Group (CCFUG)

[Kurt Ward]

I'd go, but Charleston SC is a bit too far from Chapel Hill...

;-)

Kurt

-Original Message-
From: P@tty Ayers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Carolina CF User Group (CCFUG)


I'm wondering if anyone here has been part of this group, Carolina
ColdFusion User Group
(http://www.ccfug.org/home.cfm) ?

Meets tonight in Chapel Hill, NC at 7 PM at the Hanes Building, Room #2, on
the UNC campus.


P@tty Ayers
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RE: Duplicate answers (was: Character code for a TAB)

[Andrew Tyrone]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Duplicate answers (was: Character code for a TAB)
> 
> 
> > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the same answer
> > to a pretty easy question.
> >
> > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> 
> Here's your answer:
> 
> http://forums.allaire.com/
> 
> Seriously, if you're not willing to accept the limitations of a mail list,
> you probably shouldn't be using a mail list. This is how mail 
> lists work. On
> the upside, they don't require the active work that a web-based forum
> requires, and typically you get responses much faster, while still having
> the ability to read questions and answers from yesterday.
> 
> Interestingly enough, at this point, more people (now including 
> myself) have
> posted about the duplicate answers than posted the answers themselves.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 
> http://www.figleaf.com/ 
> voice: (202) 797-5496 
> fax: (202) 797-5444

I'd also like to add that you get many different perspectives regarding the questions, 
different solutions to the same problem might make you think differently about other 
problems you are having or have had.  Of course there is always the chance that you 
will get the same exact, one-line answer from 10 people, but...


-Andy


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CFX_IMAGE

[Michael Lugassy]

I'm about to use the tag CFX_IMAGE extensivley on my new project.
Is it reliable enough? Is there anything I should consider? mem usage?
performance? Is there a better tag?

I'd love to hear your comments about this OBJECT.

Thanks,

Michael Lugassy,
Senior Server Engineer
Interactive Music Ltd.

I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
http://www.imvamp.com
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get the directory a file is in.

[river]

Is there a way to get the name of the directory a file that is being
processed is in?
Let's say, in a file

C:\wwwroot\1234\index.cfm

is there a way to retrieve "C:\wwwroot\1234\" part in the index.cfm file?

Thanks for any help.



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RE: CFTRY / CFCATCH questions

[Andrew Tyrone]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFTRY / CFCATCH questions
> 
> 
> > that's incorrect, actually. it will catch them in the order 
> > defined. so if there is an "ALL" first, there will never be 
> > any other. basically, it starts at the first CATCH, compares 
> > exception types.  if it is a match, that handler occurs, if 
> > not, it examines the next one in order, ad nauseum, until
> > the last catch (which should probably be an "ALL" JIC)
> 
> Actually, it may or may not catch them in the order defined. It depends.
> 
> On CF 4.0.x, it will. On CF 4.5.x, by default, it won't - it'll 
> look for the
> "best fit". So, even if you've got a CFCATCH TYPE="all" at the 
> top, it won't
> use that unless that's the only one that would work. However, 
> this behavior
> can be overridden by using the CFSETTING tag's CATCHEXCEPTIONBYPATTERN
> attribute.
> 
> I'd argue that you're best off putting TYPE="all" last anyway, though.
> 
> Finally, I don't think you should have a TYPE="all" to catch anything you
> haven't foreseen, generally, unless you have some specific way to 
> deal with
> the problem. That's what the general error handlers and CFERROR
> TYPE="exception" are for.


And on another note, if you use type="ANY" instead of "ALL", it will work ;o)  Sorry, 
I couldn't resist.

I love error handling in CF, especially in 4.5+, since it's very advanced for a "tag 
based language".  One of the places it's really helped
is this drug testing application I've done.  When raw test files come from the lab, 
some may be corrupt, or some may have invalid values, especially for dates (imagine 
that...).  CFTRY/CFCATCH has been a godsend in that I loop through all of my tests and 
catch all types of errors, whether they stem from an incomplete file or a wrong 
date,identification number, etc.  I can then process each file differently and send it 
to the appropriate person for dissemination and trouble-shooting...  Most of the time, 
however, that person is me... :o|


-Andy


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Re: 100s of FTP Accounts

[Jon Hall]

Dont bog down Windows with all these users. If you use IIS ftp, plan
carefully by assigning your users to groups. The IHTK @
www.intrafoundation.com is a set of custom tags that will let you
programatically set up IIS ftp accounts, directories, and so on.

You might want to think about using an ftp server other than IIS, there are
many others out there that are scriptable and have their own databases of
users, and not relying on the user having a windows account.

jon
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: 100s of FTP Accounts


> We're about to offer all of our users and client complete ftp access to
10mb of storage.
> Every user will have his own directory on our NT machine and ftp account
that will
> log him automaticlly to HIS special directory.
>
> What is the best way to seperate directories and accounts without the need
to create
> 1000s of FTP accounts under NT?
>
> I've heard somewhere that by logging onto FTP with a username that is the
same
> as on of the directories, the user automaticlly logs inside it. but I
don't want to assign
> NT account to every user... :( - is it somehow possible with Anonymous
FTP?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Lugassy
> Interactive Music Ltd.
> I don't live in fantasy; I just work there...
> http://www.imvamp.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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RE: Character code for a TAB

[Terry Bader]

char(09), will that work???

**sits back and waits for fireworks


Terry Bader
IT/Web Specialist
Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> 
> 
> If anyone else says char(09) I'm gonna frakk :)
> CHAT SOLUTION NOW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steven A. del Sol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> 
> 
> > I THINK IT IS CHAR(09)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:10 PM 4/24/2001 +0200, you wrote:
> > >There must be a way to let us know the question has been answered!
> > >Let's think about it!
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:51 PM
> > >Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think the problem is more due to the fact that the 
> responses are
> more
> > > > "hey, I know the answer to this!!!" repetitions than 
> meant to clog the
> > >list.
> > > > It's one of the downsides of using an e-mail list 
> versus some other
> > >message
> > > > base format.  All of the replies probably got sent out 
> at the same
> time
> > >and
> > > > the "delay" the list actually getting them is more due 
> to email lag
> than
> > > > anything else.
> > > >
> > > > It's great to get a response and frustrating not to, 
> and I think all
> of us
> > > > have experienced both sides of that coin.  So to make 
> up for it, when
> we
> > > > know how to help someone we reflexively hit reply.  The 
> cascade effect
> is
> > > > what we all see.
> > > >
> > > > Hatton Humphrey
> > > >
> > > > "Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for more
> > > > transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and 
> requests tapes
> of
> > > > Pastor Jack's sermons." - From "Real Church Bulletin Bloopers"
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >
> > > > > How about everyone bookmarks this page 
> (http://www.asciitable.com/),
> > > > > now...then no-one should ever have to ask again. Except of
> course
> > >the
> > > > > newcomers. And those we'll beat into submission with 
> a big ole CF
> book
> > >or
> > > > > something...?
> > > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Erika
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >
> > > > > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the 
> same answer
> > > > > to a pretty easy question.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Lugassy
> > > > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help

[Hubert Earl]

Chris,

Thanks for the advice.  Before I read your mail, however, I uninstalled then
reinstalled Studio 4.5.2 as the solution to the problem.  When the
reinstalled program was setting its indexes, however, it hung, just as it
had the first time, and help searches were rendered impossible. Also, when I
have it running, my computer keeps giving me warnings about low system
resources, even when there are few other programs running at the same time.
I'm planning to stop using it, as I think it is very buggy.  Does Allaire
Corp. have a department to deal with complaints about bugs?

Hubert

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Cortes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help


> Hubert,
>
> Studio has its own Verity collection that stores the ColdFusion indices.
> Renaming the directory where it is stored will trick Studio into
recreating
> the collections.
>
> First close studio and then go to your ColdFusion Studio installation
> directory, maybe:
>
> "c:/program files/allaire/ColdFusion Studio
4x/Verity/Collections/Searchable
> Help"
>
> Rename the "Searchable help" directory to anything else, now launch studio
> and try to use your help search again. It should prompt you to regenerate
> the collection. Hope that does the trick for you, good luck.
>
> - Chris
>
> 
> Christopher Cortes   |Coming Q3 2001:
> Consultant   |
> Stonebridge Technologies, Inc.   | 'Optimizing ColdFusion'
>  Putting Technology To Work  |   By
> Visit us at www.sbti.com |   Christopher Cortes
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> <---!>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hubert Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:06 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Problem with Studio 4.5.2 help
>
>
> Hi,
>
> While Studio 4.5.2 was indexing its help files for the first time, as a
> result of a search I was trying to do, my computer froze.  Now, whatever I
> try to search for, I get the reply "No matches found" (even for words like
> "form" and "template", which I tried to be absolutely sure about the
> situation).  What can I do to rectify the situation?
>
> Sincerely,
> ---
> Hubert Earl
>
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>
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RE: autonumbering in oracle

[Braver, Ben]

Farrah,

The only dumb question is the one you don't ask!!

First, you create the table.  Make a numeric column for the sequence.

Second, issue this command in Oracle SQL*PLUS:
CREATE SEQUENCE  INCREMENT BY 1 [START WITH ]

Note that this is not tied to a particular table.
It just creates a unique sequence generator.  

NextVal and CurrVal are used to reference the sequence generator. 

Example:  you want to increment id's in a Customer table.
(E.g., your table is named Customer, you have a numeric column in Customer
named ID, and your sequence is named CustomerID.)

INSERT INTO Customer
(ID, Name)
VALUES
(CustomerID.NextVal, 'XYZ Company');

If you want to use the same sequence value repeatedly as in putting the same
ID into multiple tables, use CurrVal.

HTH.

Ben

(By the way, a good reference is "Oracle: The Complete Reference" by Oracle
Press.  There are different editions of the book for various releases of
Oracle.)

-Original Message-
From: FARRAH NG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Re:] RE: autonumbering in oracle


hi ben,
i am totally new to oracle and please excuse me for a further dumb
question.  Where should i put into the create sequence ?  Do i have
to do that when i created the table ?  Do I use the CREATE SEQUENCE
command for my column ContentID ? and how do i do that ?

thanks

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:31:01 -0500
Braver, Ben wrote:

>Farrah,
>
>Oracle doesn't have an "autonumber" datatype like MS Access does.
>Instead, it has a feature called a "sequence" -- you use the 
CREATE SEQUENCE
>command.
>
>There was a cf-talk thread on this recently (4/2/01) -- try 
searching the
>archive.
>If you can't find it, let me know and I'll send you some info.
>
>HTH.
>
>Ben
>
>-Original Message-
>From: FARRAH NG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:34 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: autonumbering in oracle
>
>
>I tried to use the download custom CF_max_id to do the autonumbering
>for inserting a new row into a oracle database table but the custom
>tag failed.  I am wondering if anyone knows oracle have idea how to
>do it.  I have the first column in the table named "ContentId"
>defined with datatype "number".  I would like to have the contentid
>incremented by 1 for each now row inserted.  Someone works with 
>oracle please let me know how to do this.
>
>thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Michael Dinowitz]

A complete list of ALL CF functions was posted up to the front of
www.houseoffusion.com a number of weeks back. And there's always the
standard docs.

Message sent by user at 2:05. Message recieved at 2:06. 

> What would even be better than a chat room would be to have a collection
of
> descriptions of all the tags and functions available and the correct
syntax
> to use them properly ... almost like a reference manual of some kind. ;)
>
> Todd
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
> Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB
>
>
> | Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
> | with answers... it'd be faster tho
> |
> | Dick
>
>
>
>
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RE: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Tony Gruen]

We should use Groove. It is free and I use it for my dev group. I have
already created a group called ColdFusion_UserGroup if anyone is interested.
Email me off list for the info.

P.S. - I am not affiliated with Groove in any way. :-)

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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB


Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
with answers... it'd be faster tho

Dick


At 6:47 PM +0200 4/24/01, Michael Lugassy wrote:
>What about a CHAT solution?
>CHAT ROOM would be great!!!
>
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Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Michael Dinowitz]

A complete list of ALL CF functions was posted up to the front of
www.houseoffusion.com a number of weeks back. And there's always the
standard docs.


> What would even be better than a chat room would be to have a collection
of
> descriptions of all the tags and functions available and the correct
syntax
> to use them properly ... almost like a reference manual of some kind. ;)
>
> Todd
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
> Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB
>
>
> | Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
> | with answers... it'd be faster tho
> |
> | Dick
>
>
>
>
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RE: Character code for a TAB

[C. Hatton Humphrey]

The problem with an IRC chat room, ICQ group or any other "live chat" is the
fact that for international users there is a lack of "presence".  With an
e-mail list (such as the one we have now) or a web board the answers are
"static".  The biggest difference is how many emails a person gets.

Hatton

> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
>
>
> I think there is some kind of ICQ community for CF - that may even be
> better...
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
>
>
> > What about a CHAT solution?
> > CHAT ROOM would be great!!!
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dylan Bromby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > > i still disagree with this. here's why:
> > >
> > > 1) sometimes answers are wrong
> > > 2) some people post really innovative solutions even after the problem
> > might
> > > have been "solved"
> > >
> > > some people might be frustrated when the SAME answer is
> posted over and
> > > over. well...delete the thread. i don't think the answer is asking
> people
> > > not to respond just because there's a response that looks like an
> answer.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:31 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Instead of quickly hitting reply and sending out the answer, one can
> > > quickly scan the inbox or the digest to see if its been answered and
> then
> > > not reply.
> > > Mary
> > >
> > >
> > > There must be a way to let us know the question has been answered!
> > > Let's think about it!
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:51 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think the problem is more due to the fact that the responses are
> more
> > > > "hey, I know the answer to this!!!" repetitions than meant
> to clog the
> > > list.
> > > > It's one of the downsides of using an e-mail list versus some other
> > > message
> > > > base format.  All of the replies probably got sent out at the same
> time
> > > and
> > > > the "delay" the list actually getting them is more due to email lag
> than
> > > > anything else.
> > > >
> > > > It's great to get a response and frustrating not to, and I think all
> of
> > > us
> > > > have experienced both sides of that coin.  So to make up
> for it, when
> we
> > > > know how to help someone we reflexively hit reply.  The
> cascade effect
> > is
> > > > what we all see.
> > > >
> > > > Hatton Humphrey
> > > >
> > > > "Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for more
> > > > transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and requests tapes
> of
> > > > Pastor Jack's sermons." - From "Real Church Bulletin Bloopers"
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >
> > > > > How about everyone bookmarks this page
(http://www.asciitable.com/),
> > > > now...then no-one should ever have to ask again. Except of
course
> > the
> > > > newcomers. And those we'll beat into submission with a big ole CF
book
> > or
> > > > something...?
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Erika
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the same answer
> > > > to a pretty easy question.
> > > >
> > > > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Michael Lugassy
> > > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB

[Todd Ashworth]

What would even be better than a chat room would be to have a collection of
descriptions of all the tags and functions available and the correct syntax
to use them properly ... almost like a reference manual of some kind. ;)

Todd

- Original Message -
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: What about a CHAT solution? Was Re: Character code for a TAB


| Don't know if a chat would help... you'd just flood the chat room
| with answers... it'd be faster tho
|
| Dick



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Re: Character code for a TAB

[Michael Dinowitz]

The speed on the lists is anywhere from 2-10 minutes counting on traffic.
I'd say that's good enough turn around. I got your post 6 minutes after you
sent it.
This topic has moved far from being tech related to being more community and
list related. Lets please move it to the CF-Community list.


> if the list were fast, you would be correct.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dylan Bromby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:28 AM
> Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
>
>
> > i still disagree with this. here's why:
> >
> > 1) sometimes answers are wrong
>
> Of course such a simple answer as TAB=ASCII 9 might be something that we
> don't need to read over and over and doesn't have any more elegant
solutions
> 
>
> Howie
>
> > 2) some people post really innovative solutions even after the problem
> might
> > have been "solved"
> >
> > some people might be frustrated when the SAME answer is posted over and
> > over. well...delete the thread. i don't think the answer is asking
people
> > not to respond just because there's a response that looks like an
answer.
> >
>
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Session implementation

[Joshua Meekhof]

Does anyone understand how Cold Fusion implements and associates
sessions to applications?


Josh Meekhof

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RE: Character code for a TAB

[Dylan Bromby]

you're right. i don't remember what it is, but i was on it for a while and
it was actually kind of cool. you would get any message posted by someone on
the list and your reply went to everyone else. it was like CF-Talk in
real-time. it think i bailed on it because it was a little "too" real-time
for me. but for others, it might be the way to go.

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB


I think there is some kind of ICQ community for CF - that may even be
better...

Howie

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB


> What about a CHAT solution?
> CHAT ROOM would be great!!!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dylan Bromby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 5:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
>
>
> > i still disagree with this. here's why:
> >
> > 1) sometimes answers are wrong
> > 2) some people post really innovative solutions even after the problem
> might
> > have been "solved"
> >
> > some people might be frustrated when the SAME answer is posted over and
> > over. well...delete the thread. i don't think the answer is asking
people
> > not to respond just because there's a response that looks like an
answer.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:31 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> >
> > Instead of quickly hitting reply and sending out the answer, one can
> > quickly scan the inbox or the digest to see if its been answered and
then
> > not reply.
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > There must be a way to let us know the question has been answered!
> > Let's think about it!
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:51 PM
> > Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB
> >
> >
> > > I think the problem is more due to the fact that the responses are
more
> > > "hey, I know the answer to this!!!" repetitions than meant to clog the
> > list.
> > > It's one of the downsides of using an e-mail list versus some other
> > message
> > > base format.  All of the replies probably got sent out at the same
time
> > and
> > > the "delay" the list actually getting them is more due to email lag
than
> > > anything else.
> > >
> > > It's great to get a response and frustrating not to, and I think all
of
> > us
> > > have experienced both sides of that coin.  So to make up for it, when
we
> > > know how to help someone we reflexively hit reply.  The cascade effect
> is
> > > what we all see.
> > >
> > > Hatton Humphrey
> > >
> > > "Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for more
> > > transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and requests tapes
of
> > > Pastor Jack's sermons." - From "Real Church Bulletin Bloopers"
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > How about everyone bookmarks this page (http://www.asciitable.com/),
> > > > now...then no-one should ever have to ask again. Except of
course
> > the
> > > > newcomers. And those we'll beat into submission with a big ole CF
book
> > or
> > > > something...?
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Erika
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > I JUST LOVE IT WHEN 1203483409875 PEOPLE answer the same answer
> > > > to a pretty easy question.
> > > >
> > > > I think we gotta sort this out somehow... :)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Michael Lugassy
> > > > Interactive Music Ltd.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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RE: Character code for a TAB

[Dylan Bromby]

if the list were fast, you would be correct.

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Character code for a TAB



- Original Message -
From: "Dylan Bromby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Character code for a TAB


> i still disagree with this. here's why:
>
> 1) sometimes answers are wrong

Of course such a simple answer as TAB=ASCII 9 might be something that we
don't need to read over and over and doesn't have any more elegant solutions


Howie

> 2) some people post really innovative solutions even after the problem
might
> have been "solved"
>
> some people might be frustrated when the SAME answer is posted over and
> over. well...delete the thread. i don't think the answer is asking people
> not to respond just because there's a response that looks like an answer.
>
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RE: a "must "select for the select menu

[John Wilker]

you can do it a number of ways.

One is to have an option that is the default Value you can use null or some other value to identify
this as the not ok answer. Then have JavaScript check to make sure that that
particular option isn't selected.

Or have the action page, via CF check to see that "" or whatever isn't what
was passed.

J.



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Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer

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-Original Message-
From: paul . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: a "must "select for the select menu


Hi Guys
I do have a select box which is populated from the query
i cant this to make a " must" selct select menu
what i want is that the user "must"  select the one from the select menu.
should leave it unselected please suggest
thanks
-paul
the code is
---

  

  
#qry_get_roles.role_name#-






#role_type#
  




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Validate a string for a valid directory name?

[river]

What's the best way to validate a string for a valid directory name?  I am
trying to create a form that creates a folder with the name that's specified
in the form.  Entering a text "MyDocument" in a textbox and hitting "Submit"
creates a folder with the name MyDocument.

I need to check this string for the valid folder/directory name under
Windows NT.  What would be the best way of doing it?  Is there a custom tag?

Thank you for any help.



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RE: Printing Hardcopy CR Report on Client Browser

[Hales, John M]

I think CR7 is the same as 8.x. You can send parameters in the url or
through form fields. Parameters get sent as "prompt0", "prompt1", etc.; User
names get sent as "user0", "user1", etc.; and passwords get sent as
"password0", etc.

In regards to printing, we use the ActiveX viewer with IE, so the users just
click the print icon (benefits of intranet development).

HTH

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Web Applications Developer
Sr. NT Network Administrator
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-Original Message-
From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Printing Hardcopy CR Report on Client Browser


Does anyone know how to:

run report parameters from CF 4.5x to Crystal Reports 7

print hardcopy report (from CR) on the client's printer (NOT the server
printer).

Is this tricky?

Richard Colman
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Re: autonumbering in oracle

[Mark Woods]

standard way is to create a sequence and then use a trigger when inserting 
a row into the table, rather than explain any further, here's some code...

/* dummy table */
CREATE TABLE test (
 ID integer NOT NULL ,
 sometext varchar2(50) NOT NULL ,
 PRIMARY KEY (ID)
 );

/* Sequence and trigger to reproduce SQL server autoincrement feature */
CREATE SEQUENCE testID NOCACHE;
CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER test_AutoID
BEFORE INSERT ON test
FOR EACH ROW
BEGIN
 SELECT testID.NextVal
 INTO :new.ID
 FROM dual;
END test_AutoID;



Mark




At 05:34 PM 4/24/2001, you wrote:
>I tried to use the download custom CF_max_id to do the autonumbering
>for inserting a new row into a oracle database table but the custom
>tag failed.  I am wondering if anyone knows oracle have idea how to
>do it.  I have the first column in the table named "ContentId"
>defined with datatype "number".  I would like to have the contentid
>incremented by 1 for each now row inserted.  Someone works with
>oracle please let me know how to do this.
>
>thanks
>
>
>
>
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