RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

[Dave Watts]

> > While I agree with you that Macromedia should support 
> > Apache 2.0 for CF 5, I disagree with your post. You 
> > seem to imply that a normal IT shop wouldn't want to 
> > upgrade to CFMX until after it matures for a couple of
> > years, yet you want to upgrade to Apache 2.0, which is 
> > certainly immature in comparison to Apache 1.3.
>
> Of course, the logical distinction is that an Apache upgrade 
> is free...

While that's true enough, it's irrelevant to Matt's argument. Apache 2 is
still relatively new and untested next to Apache 1.3.xx, so why would you
want to start using it if you're concerned about software maturity?

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RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

[Dave Watts]

> The MM Partners office informs me that
> MM has no plans to supply a mod_coldfusion.so
> for CF 5.0/Linux/Apache 2.0
> 
> 'Not enough demand' they say.
> 
> So know we know MM's policy on one-release-
> back support. They don't do what's right: they
> do what will not get them punished by losing
> too many customers.

>From the perspective of a profit-oriented company, isn't that what's right?
After all, if they do something like that for a small number of customers,
they're expending some effort that perhaps could be better spent on
something else. Personally, I'd rather see Axis 1.0 integration with CFMX -
I think that'll benefit more of their customers than CF 5 supporting Apache
2.

> If you haven't picked the platform that's going to 
> be most popular, you're out of luck, and even if you 
> have, maybe you're out of luck anyway, and if you're 
> not prepared to keep churning through releases (rather 
> than maintaining existing release levels for several 
> years, as is normal I/T practice) you're out of luck.
> 
> As such, MM has decided that Cold Fusion is the
> wrong choice for mission-critical business applications,
> because it will not have the kind of support that the
> I/T industry expects.

So, let me get this straight. Macromedia released CF 5. Later, Apache Group
released Apache 2. Macromedia released CFMX, which it's now selling instead
of CF 5. Macromedia isn't supporting the use of CF 5 with Apache 2, a
product which didn't exist when their (no longer current) product came out.
And this surprises you? And your conclusion is that this makes CF unfit for
"mission-critical business applications"? How many mission-critical
installations are going to switch from Apache 1.3.xx to Apache 2 on their
production servers, just because they can?

I can understand that you're not happy with their decision not to support
Apache 2. I can't understand why you attach this amount of significance to
it, considering that it's common for vendors not to support having their
product work with products that don't exist when they release their own
product. I'm having a hell of a time getting my DOS games to run in Windows
2000, by the way.

Oh, and before you mention "Fig Leaf's special relationship with
Macromedia", I wouldn't mind a bit if CF 5 supported Apache 2 on Linux as
well. I'm just not as surprised as you are that this isn't their priority.

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RE: basic question

[Adam Reynolds]

Your browser might be interpreting &or as a character (like  ).

This has happened to me in the past with specific versions of browsers

> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Laureska [mailto:hometeam@;goeaston.net]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 02:05
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> Subject: RE: basic question
>
>
> Thanks Dan and Howie for some reason, using "&" worked but "&or"
> didn't
>
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> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: basic question
>
> Sure, try:
>
> listing page
>
> HTH,
>
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> Subject: basic question
>
>
> > Is it possible to do something like this to pass multiple variables
> thru
> > a link, because it doesn't work and I'm wondering if its just an easy
> > syntax Problem:
> >
> > listing page
> >
> > Tim
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> >
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Re: SOT: Sad Day

[Jon Hall]

Will there be a Community Manager MX beta program? ;)

-- 
jon
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Monday, November 11, 2002, 11:52:56 PM, you wrote:

MC> this is from an email that i sent out earlier:

MC> We will be providing more information on a new, enhanced community
MC> manager position in the very near future. This is first of a number of
MC> steps that we are taking which will allow us to be more responsive to
MC> and aggressive within the ColdFusion community. We will send out
MC> additional details about this new position very soon.

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RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

No, it was correct.  It can only edit STATIC HTML which was what I said;

I now it can edit HTML within CFML pages etc, but I didnt want to add that
as lets be fair, whats the point?

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:mchamber@;macromedia.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002 16:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?


that is incorrect.

from:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/contribute/productinfo/faq/#1_7

-
Does Contribute work with dynamic web pages?

Macromedia Contribute can edit static HTML on any web page, including
CFM, ASP, JSP, and PHP pages. Any server includes or server code on such
pages is protected by default to ensure that Contribute does not break
application-server functionality.
-

hope that clears things up...

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content 

> NOTE : it can only edit FLAT HTML pages - it cannot 
> edit/publish dynamic
> data pages and indeed is only truly effective when used with 
> DWMX Templates.
> 
> Neil
> 


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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.

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Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)


Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
CFINCLUDE?).

Just FYI...

--D

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RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

and how many 1.0 have we seen get canned..?

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Subject: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?


Keep in  mind, this is a 1.0 release right now. (And it's not even released
yet -- It's a pre-release.) I think that the idea has a lot of merit, and
I'd like to see it work and make things easier for Web publishing in
general.

I will be testing this out and using it on a smaller website. I'll be
reporting on the experience on Fusion Authority.

Judith Dinowitz
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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[John Beynon]

What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!

jb

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.

-Original Message-
From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)


Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
CFINCLUDE?).

Just FYI...

--D

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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned pre db boom
websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to correct stuff..)

-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!

jb

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.

-Original Message-
From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)


Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
CFINCLUDE?).

Just FYI...

--D

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Re: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0

[Dick Applebaum]

On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 12:34 AM, Dave Watts wrote:

> From the perspective of a profit-oriented company, isn't that what's 
> right?
> After all, if they do something like that for a small number of 
> customers,
> they're expending some effort that perhaps could be better spent on
> something else. Personally, I'd rather see Axis 1.0 integration with 
> CFMX -
> I think that'll benefit more of their customers than CF 5 supporting 
> Apache
> 2.
>
>

I, too, would like to see MM spend their time on enhancing CFMX and 
supporting
  it on more platforms, rather than updating a prior release of the 
product.

However, if there is enough demand to make a business case, it then 
likely MM would
consider it along with all of their other opportunities.

Dick

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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[John Beynon]

Small businesses, one man shops etc - not everyone is going to shell out for
DWMX. We all know DW is way better than FrontPage, perhaps MM are just
plugging the bottom end of the market where FrontPage sits. 

What about all the personal users?...Not everyone on the net is in the
'corporate rut' - there's a massive market out there of homeusers.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned pre db boom
websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to correct stuff..)

-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!

jb

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.

-Original Message-
From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)


Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
CFINCLUDE?).

Just FYI...

--D

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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Russ]

..and how many people would be complaining if they weren't taking
chances and trying something new--something that's fairly radical in the
market right now.

Hahaha...poor Macromedia.  They're in a lose-lose situation with some of
us, aren't they?

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia 
> Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)
> 
> 
> and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old 
> fashioned pre db boom websites...?  (and of which you cannot 
> get a free editor to correct stuff..)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia 
> Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)
> 
> 
> What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web 
> applications, simply for editing websites!
> 
> jb
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
> Sent: 12 
> November 2002 09:44
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia 
> Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)
> 
> yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any 
> kind of page which is not, lets say, normal..it will 
> freak la sheek.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia 
> Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)
> 
> 
> Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  
> It loaded the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all 
> linked pages and graphics (which is *everything*, since it 
> all goes through index.cfm Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't 
> let me edit "that region of the document" when clicking any 
> text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or CFINCLUDE?).
> 
> Just FYI...
> 
> --D
> 
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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

true true... but remember a lot of tools are free and indeed installed with
the OS I am not putting it down per say... I just cant see a market for
it... maybe 2-3 years ago, but not now.

it is nicely designed thoughgood old nj.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 10:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


Small businesses, one man shops etc - not everyone is going to shell out for
DWMX. We all know DW is way better than FrontPage, perhaps MM are just
plugging the bottom end of the market where FrontPage sits. 

What about all the personal users?...Not everyone on the net is in the
'corporate rut' - there's a massive market out there of homeusers.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned pre db boom
websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to correct stuff..)

-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!

jb

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.

-Original Message-
From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)


Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
CFINCLUDE?).

Just FYI...

--D

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RE: (Admin) New spam code (2nd attempt)

[Len Conrad]

>Thanks Matt, I actually know a fair bit about it, I just get nervous when
>people speak about rejecting 'improperly configured' servers.  Are we
>talking about open relays, lack of rDNS, not rfc compliant?  I am just
>curious what Michael's definition is.



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Re: (Admin) New spam code

[Len Conrad]

>I was basing it on the mail headers. Basically what your mail server reports
>itself as to my mailserver. I've since found that my assumptions were not 
>100% correct.

ALL mail headers can be forged.  Using easily forgeable Received: headers 
for validation is useless.

Here are the checks your MTA/MX can perform:

1. For ip of sending MTA

a. require PTR record ( avoid, too many false positives)

b. require the PTR hostname and that hostname's A record match. Mostly 
reliable for detecting forgeries of frequently-forged @sender.domains, 
including your own (if you do your DNS correctly).  Find a list of 4000+ 
frequently forged domains at monkeys.com with A + PTR matching.

2. Helo/ehlo
a. helo/ehlo command required
b. helo/ehlo hostname required and/or be a FQDN (avoid, too many false
   positives)
b. filter for "trick" hostnames

3. MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
a. require FQDN for sender.domain
b. require that sender.domain have A and/or MX records


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RE: basic question

[Tim Laureska]

Browser is IE6.0

-Original Message-
From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:adam@;craze.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: basic question

Your browser might be interpreting &or as a character (like  ).

This has happened to me in the past with specific versions of
browsers

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 12 November 2002 02:05
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: basic question
>
>
> Thanks Dan and Howie for some reason, using "&" worked but "&or"
> didn't
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie@;coolfusion.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: basic question
>
> Sure, try:
>
> listing page
>
> HTH,
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Laureska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:09 PM
> Subject: basic question
>
>
> > Is it possible to do something like this to pass multiple variables
> thru
> > a link, because it doesn't work and I'm wondering if its just an
easy
> > syntax Problem:
> >
> > listing page
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: OT: good Meta taggers

[Zac Spitzer]

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| I'm looking for a good meta tagging mechanism -- something that'll build
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FYI: meta keywords are dead, google never even read them

http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/02/10-meta.html

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Re: (Admin) New spam code

[Michael Dinowitz]

> ALL mail headers can be forged.  Using easily forgeable Received: headers
> for validation is useless.
True, but can they be forged properly is the question. I've caught enough spam
to see that it falls into specific patterns and if I can block half or more of
it because it falls into a pattern of having recognizably forged headers then
it's a good thing. I'm going to rewrite the function to just contain the IP
address checked so that if a machine announces itself as an IP and the IP does
not match the actual IP that sent the mail then it's spam. That's good for
10%-15% of the spam right there.

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Re: (Admin) New spam code

[Michael Dinowitz]

As stated in previous messages, a line of 60 or more of (-_~) is considered an
end of message line and everything past it will be removed. This allows me to
clean up the footers on each reply. I expect that this is the answer.


> >DNS Expert
> >   Detailed Report for houseoffusion.com
> >
> >11-Nov-02, 8:42 PM, using the analysis setting "Normal"
> >==
> >
> >Information
>
> why was my message truncated?  it was considered mail abuse?
>
> Len
>
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Re: CGI Variables

[Rick Root]

Ciliotta, Mario wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the cgi variable to capture a users ip address.  I have used it 
>before but I just seem to be drawing a blank.  Also does anyone have a link to a list 
>of all the available CGI variables.


Well the question has already been answered, but for future reference 
you might want to remember this little bit of code:


   #CGIVAR# = #StructFind(CGI,CGIVAR)#


That will show you ALL of the CGI variables .. it works on CF5 (I just 
tested).. it will NOT work on CF4, but I think it'll work on CF 4.5 and 
MX too.

Some of the CGI variables vary from one web server platform to the next.

  - Rick

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Re: CGI Variables

[Rick Root]

Matthew Walker wrote:
> 
> 


Neat, I didn't know about CFDUMP.

  - Rick


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test

[David Hannum]

Just seeing if our email server is set up the way Michael is looking for:

Dave

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Re: test

[Michael Dinowitz]

Doesn't really matter at the moment as that part of the scanner it turned off.
:)


> Just seeing if our email server is set up the way Michael is looking for:
>
> Dave
>
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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

It is also interesting to note that the OSX version is not out till next
year :-)..

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
Sent: 12 November 2002 10:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


true true... but remember a lot of tools are free and indeed installed with
the OS I am not putting it down per say... I just cant see a market for
it... maybe 2-3 years ago, but not now.

it is nicely designed thoughgood old nj.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 10:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


Small businesses, one man shops etc - not everyone is going to shell out for
DWMX. We all know DW is way better than FrontPage, perhaps MM are just
plugging the bottom end of the market where FrontPage sits. 

What about all the personal users?...Not everyone on the net is in the
'corporate rut' - there's a massive market out there of homeusers.

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned pre db boom
websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to correct stuff..)

-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!

jb

-Original Message-
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[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)

yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.

-Original Message-
From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)


Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
CFINCLUDE?).

Just FYI...

--D

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Re: CFMX: how to access a servlet?? (again)

[Marcello Frutig]

Sean,

there is no need to create any special mapping on the external web server to have CFMX 
serving servlets called via a url like http://host/myMapping/MySerlvet. Just install 
the CFMX JRun Connector and all the servlet mappings defined on WEB-INF/web.xml are 
processed by the connector, as expected.

I figured out that we just need to make sure that the external web server is 
(re)started before CFMX.

Regards,
Marcello.

>On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 08:19 US/Pacific, Marcello Frutig wrote:
>> afaik your suggestion only applies to IIS application mappings, which 
>> is based on file extensions.
>
>Then I guess you need to create a mapping of /servlet to the jrun.dll? 
>(I'm not very familiar with IIS)
>
>> The same is probably occurring with the JRun Connector for Apache.
>
>I'm sure you can easily configure Apache to map /servlet to JRun.
>
>> When using the CFMX internal web server, the servlet mappings declared 
>> on the web.xml config file are being processed as expected, and it's 
>> possible to call a servlet using a url like 
>> http://host:8500/myMapping/MySerlvet.
>
>Yes, those are the internal web server equivalent of what you need to 
>do to IIS (or Apache).
>
>"SOAP is not so much a means of transmitting data
>  but a mechanism for calling COM objects over the Web."
>-- not Microsoft (surprisingly!)
>
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CF 5 Scheduler fails

[Bosky, Dave]

What's the deal with the scheduler function in cfadmin? Every task I
schedule to run fails. 
BROWSER DATETIME 11/11/02 23:59:36 
DETAIL DIAGNOSTICS Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 
 MESSAGE Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 

TEMPLATE C:\CFUSION\SCRIPTS\CFEXECTASK.CFM 
TYPE COM.ALLAIRE.COLDFUSION.HTTPFAILURE 

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RE: CGI Variables

[Everett, Al]

> Does anyone know the cgi variable to capture a users ip 
> address.

CGI.REMOTE_ADDR

> Also does anyone have a link to a list of all the 
> available CGI variables.

RTFM* or 

*
CF5:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cf50docs/CFML_Reference/Expressions4.jsp#2679
705 
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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Kevin Graeme]

Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down content
editor for those Dreamweaver sites.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned
> pre db boom
> websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to
> correct stuff..)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
> simply for editing websites!
>
> jb
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
> yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of
> page which
> is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
> the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
> (which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
> Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
> document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
> CFINCLUDE?).
>
> Just FYI...
>
> --D
>
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RE: Contribute and Studio Observation

[Kevin Graeme]

> That said, It's a new product so I won't moan and groan about it until
> non-IT folks start destroying sites just like they have always done with
> FrontPage ;-)
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.

You've hit the nail on the head with the FrontPage comparison. Contribute
even looks somewhat like FrontPage. The advantage appears to be that it
won't screw the code.

(Of course, I can't get it to work with one of our ftp servers for a site.)

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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

I think there are going to be the pro camps and the con camps, I for one
have decided to sit firmly on the fence until Version 2/3.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu]
Sent: 12 November 2002 14:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down content
editor for those Dreamweaver sites.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned
> pre db boom
> websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to
> correct stuff..)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
> simply for editing websites!
>
> jb
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
> yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of
> page which
> is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
> the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
> (which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
> Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
> document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
> CFINCLUDE?).
>
> Just FYI...
>
> --D
>
> ###
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>
>
>
> 

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Re: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?

[Deanna Schneider]

Great points, Sean.

In our shop, we have one person that does CF full time (me), one that does
it part time combined with design, one that just works on static sites, and
one student. We design/manage/support/build a couple of hundred websites. 72
of those are static and distributed (non-tech) staff attempt to maintain the
content with FrontPage. Between our training costs to train people to use FP
(we have one full-time trainer), the hassles of fixing sites that get
completely over-written accidentally, and all the little requests for fixes
to those sites that they "just can't figure out how to do," a product like
contribute could really save us time and money. We've looked for a CMS to
fit our needs. We've thought about building our own. But, the reality is
that I'm busy with the other 130 or so sites that we have, and building our
own (or managing a purchased one) would probably amount to another full-time
job, which ain't happening considering that we work for a state that's
several billion dollars in debt.

So, will I ever use contribute? Probably not. But, my colleague that designs
static sites for those 72 counties jumped up and down when I told her about
it.
-d



Deanna Schneider
Interactive Media Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Kevin Graeme]

Agreed. I see the benefits of the concept, but I'm more concerned with the
actual implementation. Currently, it doesn't appear to even want to connect
to one of our servers.

The thing I think is funny is how the people on this list seem to see db
driven sites as the only thing that exists. Not every MM product is for CF
developers.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> I think there are going to be the pro camps and the con camps, I for one
> have decided to sit firmly on the fence until Version 2/3.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 14:09
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
> development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down content
> editor for those Dreamweaver sites.
>
> -Kevin
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> > is it Content Management or not?)
> >
> >
> > and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned
> > pre db boom
> > websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to
> > correct stuff..)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
> > Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> > is it Content Management or not?)
> >
> >
> > What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
> > simply for editing websites!
> >
> > jb
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> > Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
> Contribute, is
> > it Content Management or not?)
> >
> > yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of
> > page which
> > is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
> > Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> > it Content Management or not?)
> >
> >
> > Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
> > the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
> > (which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
> > Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
> > document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
> > CFINCLUDE?).
> >
> > Just FYI...
> >
> > --D
> >
> > ###
> > David Notik
> > Digital202, LLC
> > Imagination gone digital.
> > Web: www.digital202.com
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Office: (206) 575-1717
> > Mobile: (206) 351-3948
> > ###
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Perez, Percy]

Hello everyone,
I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is giving me an error.

The SQL statement is:


insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc) 
values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')


Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website

The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL

Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the above in my NT
server and it works.).
Thank you in advance,

Percy

---

Error Executing Database Query.  
Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your SQL syntax near
'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
Website')' at line 1  
  
The error occurred in /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14
 
12 : values 
13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
14 : 



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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Adrocknaphobia Jones]

Well I'm curious about the bottom line.

Is anyone planning on implementing Contribute in a business setting?

Outside of giving it to your friend you made a site for, I can't see
implementing this is a real world application. After all, at 100 bucks a
pop, it doesn't become very cost effective beyond 5 people. At that
point you should seriously consider a real CMS. With real security and
centralized rights management.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)

I think there are going to be the pro camps and the con camps, I for one
have decided to sit firmly on the fence until Version 2/3.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu]
Sent: 12 November 2002 14:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down
content
editor for those Dreamweaver sites.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned
> pre db boom
> websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to
> correct stuff..)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web
applications,
> simply for editing websites!
>
> jb
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
> yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of
> page which
> is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
> the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and
graphics
> (which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
> Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
> document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
> CFINCLUDE?).
>
> Just FYI...
>
> --D
>
> ###
> David Notik
> Digital202, LLC
> Imagination gone digital.
> Web: www.digital202.com
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Office: (206) 575-1717
> Mobile: (206) 351-3948
> ###
>
>
>
>
> 


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RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Everett, Al]

Could it be the lack of a space between web.bookmark and (ulocation, desc) ?

> -Original Message-
> From: Perez, Percy [mailto:PercyP@;versa-valves.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is 
> giving me an error.
> 
> The SQL statement is:
> 
> 
> insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc) 
> values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 
> 
> Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
> Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website
> 
> The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL
> 
> Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the 
> above in my NT
> server and it works.).
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Percy
> 
> ---
> 
> Error Executing Database Query.  
> Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your 
> SQL syntax near
> 'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
> Website')' at line 1  
>   
> The error occurred in 
> /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14
>  
> 12 : values 
> 13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 14 : 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Percy,

DESC is a reserve word.  Rename your column or use a quoted identifyer
([desc])

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Perez, Percy [mailto:PercyP@;versa-valves.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL


Hello everyone,
I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is giving me an error.

The SQL statement is:


insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc)
values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')


Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website

The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL

Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the above in my NT
server and it works.).
Thank you in advance,

Percy

---

Error Executing Database Query.
Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your SQL syntax near
'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
Website')' at line 1

The error occurred in /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14

12 : values
13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
14 : 




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OT: ERWin tutorials and info.

[Timothy Heald]

Hey,
Anyone have any links to ERWin links or tutorials?  New job and new tools :)

Timothy Heald
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RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Perez, Percy]

Thank you!
That did it...

I am bit confused by it worked on NT, but don't care...

Thanx again

Percy

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger@;cfwebtools.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL


Percy,

DESC is a reserve word.  Rename your column or use a quoted identifyer
([desc])

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Perez, Percy [mailto:PercyP@;versa-valves.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL


Hello everyone,
I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is giving me an error.

The SQL statement is:


insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc)
values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')


Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website

The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL

Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the above in my NT
server and it works.).
Thank you in advance,

Percy

---

Error Executing Database Query.
Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your SQL syntax near
'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
Website')' at line 1

The error occurred in /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14

12 : values
13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
14 : 





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RE: CF & Flash

[Clint Tredway]

If any of you are in the Dallas Ft Worth area, one of the topics at the
user group tonight is Flash Remoting.

See www.dfwcfug.org for details.

Clint

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info@;turnkey.to] 
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF & Flash


> I'm running IIS and CF server v5. I would like to do my forms with 
> Flash rather than plain html and save/retrieve information from a 
> database.

> Can this be done without CF MX?

Yes it can -- I have a chat room built with Flash MX and runs on CF
4.5-6.

http://www.turnkey.to/talkontap

Some of the new features in Flash MX make this a lot easier to
accomplish.

S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046

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Re: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[todd]

Percy,

I would highly recommend using  with MySQL / CFMX.  It would 
look like:


insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc)
values(,
   )


Reason why?  Because escapes all the special characters for you, etc.  You 
don't need to worry about URLEncoding.

~Todd


On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Perez, Percy wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is giving me an error.
> 
> The SQL statement is:
> 
> 
> insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc) 
> values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 
> 
> Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
> Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website
> 
> The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL
> 
> Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the above in my NT
> server and it works.).
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Percy
> 
> ---
> 
> Error Executing Database Query.  
> Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your SQL syntax near
> 'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
> Website')' at line 1  
>   
> The error occurred in /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14
>  
> 12 : values 
> 13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 14 : 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[todd]

and, yeah.. desc is a reserved word... (d'oh, doesn't today feel like 
monday still?)

~Todd

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:

> Percy,
> 
> DESC is a reserve word.  Rename your column or use a quoted identifyer
> ([desc])
> 
> -mk
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Perez, Percy [mailto:PercyP@;versa-valves.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is giving me an error.
> 
> The SQL statement is:
> 
> 
> insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc)
> values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 
> 
> Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
> Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website
> 
> The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL
> 
> Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the above in my NT
> server and it works.).
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Percy
> 
> ---
> 
> Error Executing Database Query.
> Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your SQL syntax near
> 'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
> Website')' at line 1
> 
> The error occurred in /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14
> 
> 12 : values
> 13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 14 : 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Adam,

I'm looking at using it for about 15 sites we are involved with. Remember
that the VAST VAST majority of web sites out there never get any traffic and
have nothing more complicated than a style sheet . These are folks that
pester the hosting company or original development company for copy changes.
For these sites, a product like this is perfect. There's no real money in
copy changes - in spite of the fees we charge.  Maintenance issues steal
time and momentum away from ongoing projects that do make money. I don't
think this is aimed at large portal, high traffic sites in need of a complex
CMS (although MM will be happy to sell to them ).  But there IS a market
for it.  And like someone has already pointed out - not every site needs a
database driven CF solution (although this IS a "CF" talk list :-)

-mk

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


Well I'm curious about the bottom line.

Is anyone planning on implementing Contribute in a business setting?

Outside of giving it to your friend you made a site for, I can't see
implementing this is a real world application. After all, at 100 bucks a
pop, it doesn't become very cost effective beyond 5 people. At that
point you should seriously consider a real CMS. With real security and
centralized rights management.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)

I think there are going to be the pro camps and the con camps, I for one
have decided to sit firmly on the fence until Version 2/3.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu]
Sent: 12 November 2002 14:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)


Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down
content
editor for those Dreamweaver sites.

-Kevin

> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned
> pre db boom
> websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to
> correct stuff..)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web
applications,
> simply for editing websites!
>
> jb
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
> yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of
> page which
> is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
> it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox.  It loaded
> the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and
graphics
> (which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
> Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
> document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in CFCASE or
> CFINCLUDE?).
>
> Just FYI...
>
> --D
>
> ###
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> Digital202, LLC
> Imagination gone digital.
> Web: www.digital202.com
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RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

hehe... I got up early and drank TWO pots of coffee today - just to jump
ahead of you.

-mk

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:todd@;web-rat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL


and, yeah.. desc is a reserved word... (d'oh, doesn't today feel like
monday still?)

~Todd

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:

> Percy,
>
> DESC is a reserve word.  Rename your column or use a quoted identifyer
> ([desc])
>
> -mk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Perez, Percy [mailto:PercyP@;versa-valves.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> I am trying to issue a simple insert statement and it is giving me an
error.
>
> The SQL statement is:
>
> 
> insert into web.bookmark(ulocation, desc)
> values ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 
>
> Value of form.f_ulocation is : http://www.macromedia.com
> Value of form.f_desc is : Macromedia website
>
> The platform is: Linux Redhat 7.3/MX Pro/MySQL
>
> Below is the error message from the Server (BTW, I tried the above in my
NT
> server and it works.).
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Percy
>
> ---
>
> Error Executing Database Query.
> Syntax error or access violation: You have an error in your SQL syntax
near
> 'desc) values ('http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emacromedia%2Ecom%2F','Macromedia
> Website')' at line 1
>
> The error occurred in /home/www/developer/bookmarks/test_save.cfm: line 14
>
> 12 : values
> 13 : ('#URLEncodedFormat(form.f_ulocation)#','#form.f_desc#')
> 14 : 
>
>
>
>
>

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Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server

[Colin Murphy]

I am looking at synchronising our companies Intranet calendars with the
calendars stored in our Exchange Server.

I have looked into using  to access the calendars through active
directory but I don't seem to be getting any where.

Has anyone ever done this, or can anyone point me in the direction of a web
article which would help me.


Thanks,

Colin


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RE: CGI Variables

[Ciliotta, Mario]

Thanks for the help everyone.

I totally forgot about 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CGI Variables


Hi,

Does anyone know the cgi variable to capture a users ip address.  I have used it 
before but I just seem to be drawing a blank.  Also does anyone have a link to a list 
of all the available CGI variables.

Thanks

Mario

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RE: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

I can say that from my own experience and some other bods. it aint
easy...

-Original Message-
From: Colin Murphy [mailto:colin@;colin-murphy.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 14:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server


I am looking at synchronising our companies Intranet calendars with the
calendars stored in our Exchange Server.

I have looked into using  to access the calendars through active
directory but I don't seem to be getting any where.

Has anyone ever done this, or can anyone point me in the direction of a web
article which would help me.


Thanks,

Colin



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RE: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server

[Nick McClure]

There is a full API for integrating with Exchange.

The calendar is not accessible through the ldap part, you will have to
use ADO to communicate with it. Check out the MSDN site, search for
Exchange Calendar API or something and you should get back some useful
info.

> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Murphy [mailto:colin@;colin-murphy.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:54 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server
> 
> I am looking at synchronising our companies Intranet calendars with
the
> calendars stored in our Exchange Server.
> 
> I have looked into using  to access the calendars through
active
> directory but I don't seem to be getting any where.
> 
> Has anyone ever done this, or can anyone point me in the direction of
a
> web
> article which would help me.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Jason Miller]

This is one of the points I thinking about earlier which escaped me as I
typed - this is a perfect explanation - ESPecially regarding the
momentum.

Also - someone else mentioned not cost effective past 5 people - I work
with organizations that make quite a few million dollars per year (
small but should be able to affor a few $k ) Which refuse to invest in a
built application OR any serious content management.

As for free apps out there - I have yet to find one that truly fits the
light needs of the example companies being mentioned.

I think Mark hit it on the head with - 
"There's no real money in copy changes - in spite of the fees we charge.
Maintenance issues steal time and momentum away from ongoing projects
that do make money. "

I personally have 1 full file box full of lengthy emails explaining a 1
sentence change on a non commerce page - of which I have had to resort
to printing, dating and putting time spent on it and having it accompany
a bill for those clients who bawk at a measly $200 bill one month...
while I have had to read through 50 emails  - print 30 of them, and note
everything - All of which consumes more consumables(printer ink) and
time in administration then the actual change takes - Funny thing is
clients - feel that part of that time is just part of doing business and
they are not responsible for that. 

I have a feeling that I am not the only one with 6 out of 10 clients who
fit this.

jay m.
Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:


Adam,



I'm looking at using it for about 15 sites we are involved with.
Remember

that the VAST VAST majority of web sites out there never get any traffic
and

have nothing more complicated than a style sheet . These are folks
that

pester the hosting company or original development company for copy
changes.

For these sites, a product like this is perfect. There's no real money
in

copy changes - in spite of the fees we charge.  Maintenance issues steal

time and momentum away from ongoing projects that do make money. I don't

think this is aimed at large portal, high traffic sites in need of a
complex

CMS (although MM will be happy to sell to them ).  But there IS a
market

for it.  And like someone has already pointed out - not every site needs
a

database driven CF solution (although this IS a "CF" talk list :-)



-mk



-Original Message-

From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [ mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com
 ]

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:39 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,

is it Content Management or not?)





Well I'm curious about the bottom line.



Is anyone planning on implementing Contribute in a business setting?



Outside of giving it to your friend you made a site for, I can't see

implementing this is a real world application. After all, at 100 bucks a

pop, it doesn't become very cost effective beyond 5 people. At that

point you should seriously consider a real CMS. With real security and

centralized rights management.



Adam Wayne Lehman

Web Systems Developer

Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

Distance Education Division





-Original Message-

From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

[ mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com
 ]

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:18 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,

is it Content Management or not?)



I think there are going to be the pro camps and the con camps, I for one

have decided to sit firmly on the fence until Version 2/3.



Neil



-Original Message-

From: Kevin Graeme [ mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu
 ]

Sent: 12 November 2002 14:09

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,

is it Content Management or not?)





Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site

development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down

content

editor for those Dreamweaver sites.



-Kevin



  

-Original Message-

From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

[ mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com
 ]

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia



Contribute,

  

is it Content Management or not?)





and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old fashioned

pre db boom

websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor to

correct stuff..)



-Original Message-

From: John Beynon [ mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk
 ]

Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia



Contribute,

  

is it Content Management or not?)





What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web



applications,

  

simply for editing website

Re: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server

[Colin Murphy]

Thanks alot I will try that!

Colin
- Original Message -
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server


> There is a full API for integrating with Exchange.
>
> The calendar is not accessible through the ldap part, you will have to
> use ADO to communicate with it. Check out the MSDN site, search for
> Exchange Calendar API or something and you should get back some useful
> info.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Colin Murphy [mailto:colin@;colin-murphy.co.uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:54 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Coldfusion accessing Exchange Server
> >
> > I am looking at synchronising our companies Intranet calendars with
> the
> > calendars stored in our Exchange Server.
> >
> > I have looked into using  to access the calendars through
> active
> > directory but I don't seem to be getting any where.
> >
> > Has anyone ever done this, or can anyone point me in the direction of
> a
> > web
> > article which would help me.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Rick Root]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I would highly recommend using  with MySQL / CFMX.  It would 
> 
> Reason why?  Because escapes all the special characters for you, etc.  You 
> don't need to worry about URLEncoding.


Has something changed with CFMX?  All previous versions of CF have 
automatically escaped the single quote which is the only one that needs 
to be escaped as far as I know.  I've been developing CF apps with MySQL 
for a couple years now and I've never found the need to use 
 *OR* URLEncodedFormat() in my queries...

  - Rick


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RE: Retrieving CRs from the database

[Ben Doom]

Basically, if you're coming from access, a linefeed is a chr(10) followed by
a chr(13).  I throw away the chr(13) because the chr(10) is enough to tell
all systems that there is a linebreak there.  Of course, the browser sees
the linebreak but doesn't render it because it ignores excess whitespace.

Mostly I clean this up because I generally have data coming from wierd
sources -- like FileMaker for the Macintosh via MS-SQL 2000.  The chr(10) is
(almost) always there (if not, it uses a vertical tab) but the chr(13) is
sometimes there and sometimes not, so I just remove any instances of it.

So then we need to replace the linebreak which is now just chr(10) with a
 tag and a linebreak so that the breaks will render.

What we end up with in code looks something like

output = replace(replace(string, chr(13), ''), chr(10), '#chr(10)#');

So you might have something on your CF page that looks like the following:


#replace(replace(memofield, chr(13), ''), chr(10), '#chr(10)#')#


Does that make more sense?



  --Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software

: -Original Message-
: From: Russ [mailto:russ@;unrealisticexpectations.com]
: Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:29 PM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: RE: Retrieving CRs from the database
:
:
: Ben--
:
: I don't think I understand how I could do this--I'd need to do it to
: content that's being dumped into a memo field and then live to the page.
: I've never had to throw something like this together, so I don't grasp
: what you're telling me to do.
:
: Thanks,
:
: Russ
:
: > -Original Message-
: > From: Ben Doom [mailto:bdoom@;moonbow.com]
: > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:14 PM
: > To: CF-Talk
: > Subject: RE: Retrieving CRs from the database
: >
: >
: > I've done something similar from forms.
: >
: > Basically, I use one replace to remove all the chr(13)'s,
: > then replace all chr(10)'s with #chr(10)#.
: >
: >
: >   --Ben Doom
: > Programmer & General Lackey
: > Moonbow Software
: >
: > : -Original Message-
: > : From: Russ [mailto:russ@;unrealisticexpectations.com]
: > : Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:30 PM
: > : To: CF-Talk
: > : Subject: Retrieving CRs from the database
: > :
: > :
: > : I'm pulling content from my database that has been inputted
: > via a form.
: > : When I output as HTML, well, let's just say I don't want to do that.
: > :
: > : Instead, I'd like to understand how to recognize a CR from
: > the database
: > : and treat it as a  or  as necessary.
: > :
: > : Has anyone worked on this or can give me some advice as to how to
: > : perform?
: > :
: > : Thanks,
: > :
: > : Russ
: > :
: > :
: >
: 
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RE: Retrieving CRs from the database

[Ben Doom]

Yup.  That'll work, too.  Glad to be of some help. :-)



  --Ben Doom 
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software

: -Original Message-
: From: Russ [mailto:russ@;unrealisticexpectations.com]
: Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:56 PM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: RE: Retrieving CRs from the database
: 
: 
: For what it's worth, I finally got what was being referred to and I
: resolved it like this:
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: #Replace(CMComments,strCRLF,strHTMLCRLF)#
: 
: Thanks for the assist!
: 
: Russ
: 
: > -Original Message-
: > From: Russ [mailto:russ@;unrealisticexpectations.com] 
: > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:29 PM
: > To: CF-Talk
: > Subject: RE: Retrieving CRs from the database
: > 
: > 
: > Ben--
: > 
: > I don't think I understand how I could do this--I'd need to 
: > do it to content that's being dumped into a memo field and 
: > then live to the page. I've never had to throw something like 
: > this together, so I don't grasp what you're telling me to do.
: > 
: > Thanks,
: > 
: > Russ
: > 
: > > -Original Message-
: > > From: Ben Doom [mailto:bdoom@;moonbow.com]
: > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:14 PM
: > > To: CF-Talk
: > > Subject: RE: Retrieving CRs from the database
: > > 
: > > 
: > > I've done something similar from forms.
: > > 
: > > Basically, I use one replace to remove all the chr(13)'s,
: > > then replace all chr(10)'s with #chr(10)#.
: > > 
: > > 
: > >   --Ben Doom
: > > Programmer & General Lackey
: > > Moonbow Software
: > > 
: > > : -Original Message-
: > > : From: Russ [mailto:russ@;unrealisticexpectations.com]
: > > : Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:30 PM
: > > : To: CF-Talk
: > > : Subject: Retrieving CRs from the database
: > > :
: > > :
: > > : I'm pulling content from my database that has been inputted
: > > via a form.
: > > : When I output as HTML, well, let's just say I don't want 
: > to do that.
: > > :
: > > : Instead, I'd like to understand how to recognize a CR from 
: > > the database
: > > : and treat it as a  or  as necessary.
: > > :
: > > : Has anyone worked on this or can give me some advice as to how to
: > > : perform?
: > > :
: > > : Thanks,
: > > :
: > > : Russ
: > > :
: > > : 
: > > 
: > 
: 
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Re: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[todd]

Have you ever tried inserting a '\' character? As in: 
'D:\whatever\filename.txt'

~Todd

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Rick Root wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I would highly recommend using  with MySQL / CFMX.  It would 
> > 
> > Reason why?  Because escapes all the special characters for you, etc.  You 
> > don't need to worry about URLEncoding.
> 
> 
> Has something changed with CFMX?  All previous versions of CF have 
> automatically escaped the single quote which is the only one that needs 
> to be escaped as far as I know.  I've been developing CF apps with MySQL 
> for a couple years now and I've never found the need to use 
>  *OR* URLEncodedFormat() in my queries...
> 
>   - Rick

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RE: Recommend a good intro book to Objective C

[Bill Brown]

Did you get any responses to this query? I too am looking for a good
Objective-C book and found Learning Cocoa deficient in that regard.

Bill

: -Original Message-
: From: Patti G. L. Hall
: Sent: 11/11/02 9:13 PM
: Subject: OT: Recommend a good intro book to Objective C
:
: Can anyone recommend a good intro book to Objective C.  The 
: target of this book is not myself, but a person with 
: knowledge of C, Java... Who has gone through some of a 
: computer science degree and generally knows what he's talking about.  
: 
: He has the O'Reilley book on learning Cocoa, but doesn't like 
: it.  The book assumes that the user has more Objective C 
: knowledge than he does... So hence the request about the 
: "intro to Objective C" book...
: 
: Thanks - Patti
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RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Jay,

Yeah - and another law is at work here. It's called Mark's PITA law (and it
has nothing to do with animals).  It's states:

"...the smaller the fee the client is willing to pay, the bigger the PITA he
or she will become"

If you have trouble with my acronym, the first three words are "Pain in
the...".

It amazes me how many folks buy the cheapest possible hosting package, pair
down specs to below bare bones because of the cost involved, then call you
every other day because they are still not happy with a verdona font, or the
style of the vlink ("... have we tried Tahoma yet?  I think I'd really like
to try tahoma for a few days").  About a year and a half ago I found a
few contractors in my area and I just started shifting any clients below a
certain threshold away from my business.

That's scary for a small business because you think you have to jump on
every opportunity.  What I found, however, is that my focus improved, my
time to release for projects improved, and my documentation improved.  I was
able to take on larger projects.  Now, the only sites like that are left
with that "small scale" problem are a legacy of our start up.

-mk





-
I personally have 1 full file box full of lengthy emails explaining a 1
sentence change on a non commerce page - of which I have had to resort
to printing, dating and putting time spent on it and having it accompany
a bill for those clients who bawk at a measly $200 bill one month...
while I have had to read through 50 emails  - print 30 of them, and note
everything - All of which consumes more consumables(printer ink) and
time in administration then the actual change takes - Funny thing is
clients - feel that part of that time is just part of doing business and
they are not responsible for that.

I have a feeling that I am not the only one with 6 out of 10 clients who
fit this.

jay m.


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cfscript book

[Tony Weeg]

does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend?

thanks!

..tony

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RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails

[Blum, Jason (SAA)]

I've usually been able to get scheduled tasks to run ok, but they fail
eventually, often without anything in the scheduler log, as if their
execution was simply forgotten.  From what I've heard, the scheduler is
widely regarded as pretty unreliable.

I've had some success running templates from the NT, 2K or crontab
(UNIX) schedulers.  The only trick there is that you have to run them in
Netscape so that you can include a script to close the window onload.

I posted an earlier message inviting recommendations for better
solutions - am now scrolling through to see if anyone responded...

-J



-Original Message-
From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:Dave.Bosky@;htcinc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Scheduler fails

What's the deal with the scheduler function in cfadmin? Every task I
schedule to run fails. 
BROWSER DATETIME 11/11/02 23:59:36 
DETAIL DIAGNOSTICS Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 
 MESSAGE Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 

TEMPLATE C:\CFUSION\SCRIPTS\CFEXECTASK.CFM 
TYPE COM.ALLAIRE.COLDFUSION.HTTPFAILURE 

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Re: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[samcfug]

And competing with Netscape Composer (free), And a ton of
other editors out there.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:doug@;samcfug.org
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)


| Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling
web site
| development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight,
dumbed down content
| editor for those Dreamweaver sites.
|
| -Kevin
|
| > -Original Message-
| > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
| > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
| > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
| > To: CF-Talk
| > Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT?
Macromedia Contribute,
| > is it Content Management or not?)
| >
| >
| > and how many of those are around...?  I mean true old
fashioned
| > pre db boom
| > websites...?  (and of which you cannot get a free editor
to
| > correct stuff..)
| >
| > -Original Message-
| > From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
| > Sent: 12 November 2002 09:50
| > To: CF-Talk
| > Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT?
Macromedia Contribute,
| > is it Content Management or not?)
| >
| >
| > What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing
web applications,
| > simply for editing websites!
| >
| > jb
| >
| > -Original Message-
| > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
| > [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
| > Sent: 12 November 2002 09:44
| > To: CF-Talk
| > Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT?
Macromedia Contribute, is
| > it Content Management or not?)
| >
| > yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have
any kind of
| > page which
| > is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
| >
| > -Original Message-
| > From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
| > Sent: 11 November 2002 19:39
| > To: CF-Talk
| > Subject: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute, is
| > it Content Management or not?)
| >
| >
| > Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with
Fusebox.  It loaded
| > the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked
pages and graphics
| > (which is *everything*, since it all goes through
index.cfm
| > Fusebox-style).  Then it wouldn't let me edit "that
region of the
| > document" when clicking any text (maybe because it's in
CFCASE or
| > CFINCLUDE?).
| >
| > Just FYI...
| >
| > --D
| >
| > ###
| > David Notik
| > Digital202, LLC
| > Imagination gone digital.
| > Web: www.digital202.com
| > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Office: (206) 575-1717
| > Mobile: (206) 351-3948
| > ###
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| >
| >
| >
| >
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RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails

[Ryan Farrell]

After getting a few months of support from Allaire, we've been running a
weekly-scheduled series of scripts successfully for about a year now.  We
are CF 5 on Solaris.  The trick was to always schedule a task so that the
start date was actually a week prior to when you wanted the task to begin.
So, if I wanted something to run every Wednesday starting tomorrow, I would
enter the task with a start date of last week.  I'm not sure if this works
for daily or monthly events, but it is the official solution that we
received from the Allaire engineers.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Blum, Jason (SAA) [mailto:Jason_Blum@;saa.senate.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails


I've usually been able to get scheduled tasks to run ok, but they fail
eventually, often without anything in the scheduler log, as if their
execution was simply forgotten.  From what I've heard, the scheduler is
widely regarded as pretty unreliable.

I've had some success running templates from the NT, 2K or crontab
(UNIX) schedulers.  The only trick there is that you have to run them in
Netscape so that you can include a script to close the window onload.

I posted an earlier message inviting recommendations for better
solutions - am now scrolling through to see if anyone responded...

-J



-Original Message-
From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:Dave.Bosky@;htcinc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Scheduler fails

What's the deal with the scheduler function in cfadmin? Every task I
schedule to run fails. 
BROWSER DATETIME 11/11/02 23:59:36 
DETAIL DIAGNOSTICS Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 
 MESSAGE Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 

TEMPLATE C:\CFUSION\SCRIPTS\CFEXECTASK.CFM 
TYPE COM.ALLAIRE.COLDFUSION.HTTPFAILURE 

Thanks,
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RE: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Matt Robertson]

Rick Root wrote:
> I've never found the need to use 
>  *OR* URLEncodedFormat() in my queries...

(strongly) increased security?

It's a pain to convert over, but I'm glad I did it for that reason
alone, let alone the escaping issues already mentioned that cfqueryparam
also solves.

--Matt Robertson--
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From: Rick Root [mailto:rroot@;wakeinternet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL



Has something changed with CFMX?  All previous versions of CF have 
automatically escaped the single quote which is the only one that needs 
to be escaped as far as I know.  

  - Rick



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Re: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[Rick Root]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have you ever tried inserting a '\' character? As in: 
> 'D:\whatever\filename.txt'

Wow, I just tested my code for that and sure enough MySQL treated the \ 
as an escape character, so \n was inserted as a carriage return (or line
feed or whatever it is).

Damn, how embarassing.  All this time I have never tried to insert a \
character apparently!

Apparently, CF only escapes the ' automatically.

  - Rick

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Re: inserting a record in Linux/MySQL

[todd]

Well, it's good to learn Rick.  For further reading on  
check out Ben Forta's article:

http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/articles/ben_forta_faster.html

Anyway, I would advise anyone working with *any* db to use queryparams.  
You'll be doing yourself and your database a favor.  Granted, not all 
databases use the speed advantage, but the security of it is worth it.

~Todd

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Rick Root wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Have you ever tried inserting a '\' character? As in: 
> > 'D:\whatever\filename.txt'
> 
> Wow, I just tested my code for that and sure enough MySQL treated the \ 
> as an escape character, so \n was inserted as a carriage return (or line
> feed or whatever it is).
> 
> Damn, how embarassing.  All this time I have never tried to insert a \
> character apparently!
> 
> Apparently, CF only escapes the ' automatically.
> 
>   - Rick
> 
> 
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Purge Client Variables from Registry

[Jacob]

How can I purge the client variables from the registry?  CF 5 / Windows 2000.

Thanks
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RE: Locked Out

[Douglas.Knudsen]

Well, I can't find the bloody email...but...here are some example files.
The problem shows up when you try to move the request scope back to the
session scope.doesn't do what
you think it will.  But, if you use structappend, schtuff works
correctly.

Drop the files in a dir and call test.cfm in your browser.  Hit refresh
and you will see that request.foo never makes it to the session scope.

I can't recall, does duplicate() 'travel down', as in does it copy
substructs/arrays stored in the struct?

Doug

>-Original Message-
>From: Raymond Camden [mailto:jedimaster@;macromedia.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:13 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Locked Out
>
>
>Wouldn't be the first time I've been confused. But if you 
>_can_ find the
>email, let me know.
>
>===
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>
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>
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>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:00 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Locked Out
>> 
>> 
>> uge.we already had this discussion, you even opened a
>> bug report thingy and I never got a t-shirt!  (Could have 
>> been the other
>> Ray though) The thread went on over on CFDJlist...  the 
>problem, IIRC,
>> had to do with moving request scoped data back to the session scope.
>> Also, IIRC, arrays caused trouble too.  I can't find the bloody email
>> trail though...damn Outlook upgrade hosed some of my 
>archives...I even
>> provided sample code to see it all in action...I'll have to build
>> another one.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>
>
>
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CFMX & Oracle

[Robert Shaw]

Hi,
I've installed CFMX (upgrade from 5) and can not connect to the Oracle 8.1.7 
database using the native cold fusion driver, OCI, or the thin type. The 
error is:

Connection verification failed for data source: admin_dept_dba
[]java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool
  while attempting to connect, please check your username,
  password, URL, and other connectivity info.
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException
occurred in JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check
your username, password, URL, and other connectivity info.

So my questions are:
1. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for connecting to Oracle
2. Is there a recommendation for using Native, OCI or thin?

TIA,
Rob







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RE: Locked Out

[Douglas.Knudsen]

Sandy,

Cool tag.  We use structappend() to do basically what your tag does.
This works out really well.  All you have to do is use the request scope
anywhere and no locks to worry about.







Doug

>-Original Message-
>From: Sandy Clark [mailto:slLists@;shayna.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:42 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Locked Out
>
>
>I wrote an article and a tag to help with this type of situation.
>Request.cfm
>Article was "how to sidestep locking" in the April 2002 CFDJ.
>
>Premise is rather than to replace all application tags with 
>the 
>just rename them all to request.app both where you set them and where
>you write them. Extended Search and Replace in CFStudio does just fine.
>
>The tag  will read and write session or client scoped
>variables into and out of the request scope.  I've used it on some
>larger sites with no problems.
>
>http://www.shayna.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=coldfusion
>
>I'm currently having my site moved to an MX server, so if there are
>problems, email me and I will send you the items.
>
>
>Just FYI, I implemented this solution on a site that had been in the
>making for over 9 months and incorporated over 1200 templates.  It is
>fuseboxed, but not the current implementation.
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:43 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Locked Out
>
>
>Tim, et al...
>
>I'd strongly suggest you not use Duplicate to move session or
>application scoped vars to the request scope.  Duplicate() works on
>structures.  In CF5 and 4.5, I think this changed in CFMX, the
>application and session scopes are not really true structures so
>Duplicate doesn't quite do all you need.  IIRC correctly the big issue
>was moving newly created vars back into the session or application
>scope.  There was a big discussion on this over on CFDJ-List about six
>months back.  What we pulled ou of it and use is
>
>in application.cfm:
>
>scope="SESSION">
>   
>
>
>in onrequestend.cfm
>scope="SESSION">
>   
>
>
>This works very well and our boxen are very stable.  Note that any
>script that mods or creates a request scoped var, thsi var gets dumped
>int to session at the end of a request.  In otherwords, we 
>never have to
>lock anything but the above to statements.
>
>In rogers case though, he will have to do a massive find/replace and
>either add cflocks or do the above.
>
>Doug
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Tim Painter [mailto:cftalk@;cfex.com]
>>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:45 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Locked Out.
>>
>>Roger,
>> Just curious -- what is the purpose of 
>>serializing/deserializing it
>>into wddx and back to CF?  Couldn't you just use
>> ?  (with 
>>the proper
>>locking of course)
>>
>>Tim P.
>>
>>> 
>>> >> output="temp">
>>> >> output="request.application">
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> (4) Add the following to onrequestend.cfm:
>>>
>>> 
>>> >> output="temp">
>>> >> output="application">
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP

[Joshua O'Connor-Rose]

New to the list. Not to ColdFusion

The contract I'm working on is using NextPage NXT3 to manage documents. They 
want to do some management of the NextPage environment through the 
ColdFusion system. (Never mind that Verity is better it has been discussed)

NextPage has provided developers with com objects so that collections can be 
built by using the objects.

One of these objects is merely used to define options and is created like 
this

In asp
Set objNPOptions = Server.CreateObject("NextPage.NPOptions")

to create the name value pairs the command is this:

objNPOptions("title") = "Title"

or
objNPOptions.item("title") = "Title"

I've been trying to convert this into cold fusion but my conversion bombs 
when I attempt the same



Can't use a function on the left side of an assignment. (sigh)

The unfortunate thing is the NPOptions object is required to set the options 
for other objects like
objSiteAdmin.CreateInfobase objNPOptions, "name", "c:\filename.nfo"

aka in ColdFusion


I tried structures and arrays but it seems that NPOptions is an object that 
the other com objects are expecting

-from the desk of Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is good




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Compare code on two pages...

[Chris White]

I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and see what has 
changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two different files using 
DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need to compare code to see what has 
changed?

Thanks,

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RE: Locked Out

[Raymond Camden]

Yes, duplicate should travel all the way down and create a true copy,
unlike structCopy which will make pointers of nested structs. Again - if
you are running cf 4.5.1, make sure you have the duplicate hot fix.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Locked Out
> 
> 
> Well, I can't find the bloody email...but...here are some 
> example files.
> The problem shows up when you try to move the request scope 
> back to the
> session scope.doesn't do what
> you think it will.  But, if you use structappend, schtuff works
> correctly.
> 
> Drop the files in a dir and call test.cfm in your browser.  
> Hit refresh
> and you will see that request.foo never makes it to the session scope.
> 
> I can't recall, does duplicate() 'travel down', as in does it copy
> substructs/arrays stored in the struct?
> 
> Doug
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Raymond Camden [mailto:jedimaster@;macromedia.com]
> >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:13 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: Locked Out
> >
> >
> >Wouldn't be the first time I've been confused. But if you 
> >_can_ find the
> >email, let me know.
> >
> >=
> ==
> >Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire
> >
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
> >Yahoo IM : morpheus
> >
> >"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
> >> Sent: Monday, 
> November 11, 2002 6:00 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: Locked Out
> >> 
> >> 
> >> uge.we already had this discussion, you 
> even opened a
> >> bug report thingy and I never got a t-shirt!  (Could have 
> >> been the other
> >> Ray though) The thread went on over on CFDJlist...  the 
> >problem, IIRC,
> >> had to do with moving request scoped data back to the 
> session scope.
> >> Also, IIRC, arrays caused trouble too.  I can't find the 
> bloody email
> >> trail though...damn Outlook upgrade hosed some of my 
> >archives...I even
> >> provided sample code to see it all in action...I'll have to build
> >> another one.
> >> 
> >> Doug
> >> 


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cfqueryparam in MX

[Zac Spitzer]

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| check out Ben Forta's article:
|
| http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/articles/ben_forta_faster.html
|
| Anyway, I would advise anyone working with *any* db to use queryparams.
| You'll be doing yourself and your database a favor.  Granted, not all
| databases use the speed advantage, but the security of it is worth it.

does cfqueryparam work with cached queries in MX? that is the only
downside of cfqueryparam in Cf 5.0

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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Adrian Lynch]

Print out both versions, put them together and hold them up to the light :OD


-Original Message-
From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
Sent: 12 November 2002 13:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Compare code on two pages...


I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and see
what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two different
files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need to compare
code to see what has changed?

Thanks,

Chris 

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RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails

[Blum, Jason (SAA)]

That's rich!  We're running MX update 1 on 2K.  I'll try it out and
report back...

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Farrell [mailto:farrellt@;nuovotech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails

After getting a few months of support from Allaire, we've been running a
weekly-scheduled series of scripts successfully for about a year now.
We
are CF 5 on Solaris.  The trick was to always schedule a task so that
the
start date was actually a week prior to when you wanted the task to
begin.
So, if I wanted something to run every Wednesday starting tomorrow, I
would
enter the task with a start date of last week.  I'm not sure if this
works
for daily or monthly events, but it is the official solution that we
received from the Allaire engineers.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Blum, Jason (SAA) [mailto:Jason_Blum@;saa.senate.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5 Scheduler fails


I've usually been able to get scheduled tasks to run ok, but they fail
eventually, often without anything in the scheduler log, as if their
execution was simply forgotten.  From what I've heard, the scheduler is
widely regarded as pretty unreliable.

I've had some success running templates from the NT, 2K or crontab
(UNIX) schedulers.  The only trick there is that you have to run them in
Netscape so that you can include a script to close the window onload.

I posted an earlier message inviting recommendations for better
solutions - am now scrolling through to see if anyone responded...

-J



-Original Message-
From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:Dave.Bosky@;htcinc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Scheduler fails

What's the deal with the scheduler function in cfadmin? Every task I
schedule to run fails. 
BROWSER DATETIME 11/11/02 23:59:36 
DETAIL DIAGNOSTICS Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 
 MESSAGE Connection Failure. Status code unavailable. 

TEMPLATE C:\CFUSION\SCRIPTS\CFEXECTASK.CFM 
TYPE COM.ALLAIRE.COLDFUSION.HTTPFAILURE 

Thanks,
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Re: CFMX & Oracle

[Rick Root]

Robert Shaw wrote:
> 
> So my questions are:
> 1. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for connecting to Oracle
> 2. Is there a recommendation for using Native, OCI or thin?

Are you able to connect to the database from the server using the Oracle 
client software, such as SQL*Plus?

  - Rick

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Re: Purge Client Variables from Registry

[Jacob]

Nevermind.

Found this:
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=22419&Method=Full

I set it for one day.  Hopefully it will clear out tomorrow.

Jacob

At 08:04 AM 11/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>How can I purge the client variables from the registry?  CF 5 / Windows 2000.
>
>Thanks
>Jacob
>
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RE: Locked Out

[Douglas.Knudsen]

ahhhfor once the CFDJList archives worked for me...a couple links to
the long thread over there
http://www.sys-con.com/fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=17469&h
ighlight_key=y&keyword1=session
http://www.sys-con.com/fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=17465&h
ighlight_key=y&keyword1=session

>D

>-Original Message-
>From: Raymond Camden [mailto:jedimaster@;macromedia.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:13 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Locked Out
>
>
>Wouldn't be the first time I've been confused. But if you 
>_can_ find the
>email, let me know.
>
>===
>Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire
>
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
>Yahoo IM : morpheus
>
>"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:00 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Locked Out
>> 
>> 
>> uge.we already had this discussion, you even opened a
>> bug report thingy and I never got a t-shirt!  (Could have 
>> been the other
>> Ray though) The thread went on over on CFDJlist...  the 
>problem, IIRC,
>> had to do with moving request scoped data back to the session scope.
>> Also, IIRC, arrays caused trouble too.  I can't find the bloody email
>> trail though...damn Outlook upgrade hosed some of my 
>archives...I even
>> provided sample code to see it all in action...I'll have to build
>> another one.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>
>
>
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UPS XML Track

[Ben Densmore]

Is anyone here using the UPS XML Tracking? I am adding a section on our
site to allow customers to get ups tracking info and when I was using
ups test servers the xml file it was returning had about 92 lines, I was
just about to go live with it and decided to try a live tracking number
and it only returned about 60 lines and didn't have a lot of the info I
was displaying. Could this be something with cfhttp losing some of the
data?  I am using cf 4.5

 

Thanks,

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RE: Locked Out

[Raymond Camden]

Just as a warning - do not forget the duplicate below. If you leave it
off, structAppend makes pointers like structCopy does (ie, not at the
top level, but in nested structures). Example:












Notice how a.lower.mod is modified by the change in b.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:55 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Locked Out
> 
> 
> Sandy,
> 
> Cool tag.  We use structappend() to do basically what your tag does.
> This works out really well.  All you have to do is use the 
> request scope
> anywhere and no locks to worry about.
> 
> 
> 
>  scope="SESSION">
>   
> 
> 
> Doug
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Sandy Clark [mailto:slLists@;shayna.com]
> >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:42 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: Locked Out
> >
> >
> >I wrote an article and a tag to help with this type of situation.
> >Request.cfm
> >Article was "how to sidestep locking" in the April 2002 CFDJ.
> >
> >Premise is rather than to replace all application tags with 
> >the 
> >just rename them all to request.app both where you set them and where
> >you write them. Extended Search and Replace in CFStudio does 
> just fine.
> >
> >The tag  will read and write session or client scoped
> >variables into and out of the request scope.  I've used it on some
> >larger sites with no problems.
> >
> >http://www.shayna.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=coldfusion
> >
> >I'm currently having my site moved to an MX server, so if there are
> >problems, email me and I will send you the items.
> >
> >
> >Just FYI, I implemented this solution on a site that had been in the
> >making for over 9 months and incorporated over 1200 templates.  It is
> >fuseboxed, but not the current implementation.
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
> >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:43 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: Locked Out
> >
> >
> >Tim, et al...
> >
> >I'd strongly suggest you not use Duplicate to move session or
> >application scoped vars to the request scope.  Duplicate() works on
> >structures.  In CF5 and 4.5, I think this changed in CFMX, the
> >application and session scopes are not really true structures so
> >Duplicate doesn't quite do all you need.  IIRC correctly the 
> big issue
> >was moving newly created vars back into the session or application
> >scope.  There was a big discussion on this over on CFDJ-List 
> about six
> >months back.  What we pulled ou of it and use is
> >
> >in application.cfm:
> >
> > >scope="SESSION">
> > 
> >
> >
> >in onrequestend.cfm
> > >scope="SESSION">
> > 
> >
> >
> >This works very well and our boxen are very stable.  Note that any
> >script that mods or creates a request scoped var, thsi var 
> gets dumped
> >int to session at the end of a request.  In otherwords, we 
> >never have to
> >lock anything but the above to statements.
> >
> >In rogers case though, he will have to do a massive find/replace and
> >either add cflocks or do the above.
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Tim Painter [mailto:cftalk@;cfex.com]
> >>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:45 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: Re: Locked Out.
> >>
> >>Roger,
> >> Just curious -- what is the purpose of 
> >>serializing/deserializing it
> >>into wddx and back to CF?  Couldn't you just use
> >> ?  (with 
> >>the proper
> >>locking of course)
> >>
> >>Tim P.
> >>
> >>> 
> >>>  >>> output="temp">
> >>>  >>> output="request.application">
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> (4) Add the following to onrequestend.cfm:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>  >>> output="temp">
> >>>  >>> output="application">
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix (was RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0)

[Matt Liotta]

You may not be wrong in your lack of support of new versions of CF. It
has become clear me and many others that CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix
is not ready for primetime. Unless your organization can make use of
Apache 2.0.x, you shouldn't upgrade to CFMX at this time.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Greene [mailto:24760158988311636@;spamex.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:18 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
> 
> This is a particularly sore spot for me as I started the same thread a
> while
> back when MM refused to create a -EAPI build of the 1.3.x apache dll
for
> CF
> 4.5.  They tried to claim that DEAPI was post 4.5 and therefore I was
> asking
> for legacy support, then when I showed them that DEAPI actually
existed
> prior to the release of 4.5 they ultimately said they would do it,
then
> never came through.
> 
> Because of that I will no longer support the new versions of Cold
Fusion
> as
> a developer.  I am still running 4.5 for most of my products, which is
> stable and fast enough, and will be porting to something else, either
Java
> or PHP when a new developmetn is required.
> 
> MM lost a long time Cold Fusion develment house over this (we have
been
> developing in CF since version 1.5), which is stupid as it is a simple
> recompile.  Clearly this is about forcing upgrades down our throats
and
> not
> about providing good support for the customer base, which ultimatly
makes
> us
> buy the upgrades willingly.
> 
> Justin
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:44 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
> >
> > While I agree with you that Macromedia should support Apache
> > 2.0 for CF
> > 5, I disagree with your post. You seem to imply that a normal IT
shop
> > wouldn't want to upgrade to CFMX until after it matures for a
> > couple of
> > years, yet you want to upgrade to Apache 2.0, which is certainly
> > immature in comparison to Apache 1.3.
> >
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > 888-408-0900 x901
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb@;outofchaos.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:39 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
> > >
> > > The MM Partners office informs me that
> > > MM has no plans to supply a mod_coldfusion.so
> > > for CF 5.0/Linux/Apache 2.0
> > >
> > > 'Not enough demand' they say.
> > >
> > > So know we know MM's policy on one-release-
> > > back support. They don't do what's right: they
> > > do what will not get them punished by losing
> > > too many customers.
> > >
> > > If you haven't picked the platform that's going to be most
> > > popular, you're out of luck, and even if you have, maybe
> > > you're out of luck anyway, and if you're not prepared to
> > > keep churning through releases (rather than maintaining
> > > existing release levels for several years, as is normal I/T
> > > practice) you're out of luck.
> > >
> > > As such, MM has decided that Cold Fusion is the
> > > wrong choice for mission-critical business applications,
> > > because it will not have the kind of support that the
> > > I/T industry expects.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[cfhelp]

ROTFLMAO



-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:adrian.l@;thoughtbubble.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Compare code on two pages...

Print out both versions, put them together and hold them up to the light :OD


-Original Message-
From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
Sent: 12 November 2002 13:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Compare code on two pages...


I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and see
what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two different
files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need to compare
code to see what has changed?

Thanks,

Chris 


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RE: Locked Out

[Sandy Clark]

The only problem I found in the duplicate function was when you tried to
duplicate recordsets in 4.5.1.  That was fixed in CF5.0.  If you don't
try to duplicate recordsets in 4.5.1, the the tag I referenced earlier
works like a champ.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Locked Out


Well, I can't find the bloody email...but...here are some example files.
The problem shows up when you try to move the request scope back to the
session scope.doesn't do what
you think it will.  But, if you use structappend, schtuff works
correctly.

Drop the files in a dir and call test.cfm in your browser.  Hit refresh
and you will see that request.foo never makes it to the session scope.

I can't recall, does duplicate() 'travel down', as in does it copy
substructs/arrays stored in the struct?

Doug

>-Original Message-
>From: Raymond Camden [mailto:jedimaster@;macromedia.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:13 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Locked Out
>
>
>Wouldn't be the first time I've been confused. But if you 
>_can_ find the
>email, let me know.
>
>===
>Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire
>
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW  : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus
>Yahoo IM : morpheus
>
>"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Douglas.Knudsen@;alltel.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:00 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Locked Out
>> 
>> 
>> uge.we already had this discussion, you even opened a
>> bug report thingy and I never got a t-shirt!  (Could have 
>> been the other
>> Ray though) The thread went on over on CFDJlist...  the 
>problem, IIRC,
>> had to do with moving request scoped data back to the session scope.
>> Also, IIRC, arrays caused trouble too.  I can't find the bloody email
>> trail though...damn Outlook upgrade hosed some of my 
>archives...I even
>> provided sample code to see it all in action...I'll have to build
>> another one.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>
>
>

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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)]

use WinDiff.

If you dont have it let me know offlist and I will send it to you.  Also, if
you have VSS, there is an integrated version in that.

Neil


-Original Message-
From: Chris White [mailto:  
Sent: 12 November 2002 13:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Compare code on two pages...


I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and see
what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two different
files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need to compare
code to see what has changed?

Thanks,

Chris 

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Re: Compare code on two pages...

[Zac Spitzer]

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| Print out both versions, put them together and hold them up to the
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|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
| Sent: 12 November 2002 13:10
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Compare code on two pages...
|
|
| I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and see
| what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two different
| files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need to compare
| code to see what has changed?

from the unix world there is diff, which is used for cvs



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RE: CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP

[Adrocknaphobia Jones]

Josh,

I hope you're not running CFMX. A little forewarning though, we
established last week that COM is dead. So everything you are trying to
do is wrong. (please ignore my saracasm)

Ok, first off you should be loading the COM object via 



objNPOptions.item("title") = "title"

would look like this in cfscript:

myObject = myObject.item("title");
myObject = "title";

Basically you just want to move everything on the right to left. Then
reference the variables you create. It's just a matter of writing a few
more lines of code, utilizing on the right side. Unlike most languages,
you'll end up making a bunch of variables to reference your different
methods, instead of just utilizing the one reference.

Hope this makes sense.


Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Joshua O'Connor-Rose [mailto:whifflebat@;hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP

New to the list. Not to ColdFusion

The contract I'm working on is using NextPage NXT3 to manage documents.
They 
want to do some management of the NextPage environment through the 
ColdFusion system. (Never mind that Verity is better it has been
discussed)

NextPage has provided developers with com objects so that collections
can be 
built by using the objects.

One of these objects is merely used to define options and is created
like 
this

In asp
Set objNPOptions = Server.CreateObject("NextPage.NPOptions")

to create the name value pairs the command is this:

objNPOptions("title") = "Title"

or
objNPOptions.item("title") = "Title"

I've been trying to convert this into cold fusion but my conversion
bombs 
when I attempt the same



Can't use a function on the left side of an assignment. (sigh)

The unfortunate thing is the NPOptions object is required to set the
options 
for other objects like
objSiteAdmin.CreateInfobase objNPOptions, "name", "c:\filename.nfo"

aka in ColdFusion


I tried structures and arrays but it seems that NPOptions is an object
that 
the other com objects are expecting

-from the desk of Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is good





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Re: Compare code on two pages...

[FlashGuy]

Get UltraEdit.

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:26:05 +0100, Zac Spitzer wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Adrian Lynch wrote:
> | Print out both versions, put them together and hold them up to the
> light :OD
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
> | Sent: 12 November 2002 13:10
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: Compare code on two pages...
> |
> |
> | I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and see
> | what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two different
> | files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need to compare
> | code to see what has changed?
> 
> from the unix world there is diff, which is used for cvs
> 
> 
>
> 
> z
> 
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RE: Flashcom Presentation Live This Tuesday Night at New York ColdFusion User Group

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Judith,

Did you ever pull this together?  I'm intererested in taking a look at it.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:jdinowit@;houseoffusion.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Flashcom Presentation Live This Tuesday Night at New York
ColdFusion User Group


Hi. Just wanted to let you guys know that NYCFUG (the New York ColdFusion
User Group) is doing an experiment with the Flash Communications Server,
webcasting our meeting tomorrow night to any who wish to tune in. If you're
not joining us in person, we hereby invite you to be our virtual guests at
the meeting.

We've got two great presentations planned for the meeting:

I. Devcon 2002: Summary and Analysis

NYCFUG Co-Manager Tobe Goldfinger tells us what transpired at Devcon, and
the messages we should be getting about the future of ColdFusion. She'll
also be talking briefly about Contribute.

II. Round Table Discussion with Shlomy Gantz: Databases at Work

Shlomy Gantz, CFGuru, NYCFUG Co-Manager and CEO of BlueBrick, will show some
of the challenges of a real project and tips and tricks of overcoming them
in an interactive case study. Questions and discussion from the audience
welcome.

When? Tuesday, November 12, 2002
   6:30 PM EST
Where? NYU Medical Center, 550 1st Avenue (Corner of E. 31st Street)
   Coles 101

A link will be posted on the NYCFUG site (http://www.nycfug.org) later
tonight with more information about the Webcast.

Thank you,

Judith Dinowitz
Co-Manager
NYCFUG
New York ColdFusion User Group






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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Everett, Al]

Notetab also has a utility that comes with it to compare files.

> -Original Message-
> From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx@;rogers.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:33 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Compare code on two pages...
> 
> 
> Get UltraEdit.
> 
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:26:05 +0100, Zac Spitzer wrote:
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Adrian Lynch wrote:
> > | Print out both versions, put them together and hold them up to the
> > light :OD
> > |
> > |
> > | -Original Message-
> > | From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
> > | Sent: 12 November 2002 13:10
> > | To: CF-Talk
> > | Subject: Compare code on two pages...
> > |
> > |
> > | I have the need to take the same page but there different 
> versions and see
> > | what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences 
> in two different
> > | files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they 
> need to compare
> > | code to see what has changed?
> > 
> > from the unix world there is diff, which is used for cvs
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> z
> 
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RE: CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP

[Jason Lees (National Express)]

Joshua,

I think this will work,





Or With 


anObject=CreateObject("Com","NextPage.NPOptions")'
myMethod=anObject.Item("title");
myMethod="Title";



Jason Lees
Systems Developer
National Express Coaches Ltd.



-Original Message-
From: Joshua O'Connor-Rose [mailto:whifflebat@;hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 November 2002 16:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP


New to the list. Not to ColdFusion

The contract I'm working on is using NextPage NXT3 to manage documents. They

want to do some management of the NextPage environment through the 
ColdFusion system. (Never mind that Verity is better it has been discussed)

NextPage has provided developers with com objects so that collections can be

built by using the objects.

One of these objects is merely used to define options and is created like 
this

In asp
Set objNPOptions = Server.CreateObject("NextPage.NPOptions")

to create the name value pairs the command is this:

objNPOptions("title") = "Title"

or
objNPOptions.item("title") = "Title"

I've been trying to convert this into cold fusion but my conversion bombs 
when I attempt the same



Can't use a function on the left side of an assignment. (sigh)

The unfortunate thing is the NPOptions object is required to set the options

for other objects like
objSiteAdmin.CreateInfobase objNPOptions, "name", "c:\filename.nfo"

aka in ColdFusion


I tried structures and arrays but it seems that NPOptions is an object that 
the other com objects are expecting

-from the desk of Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is good





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RE: CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix (was RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0)

[Matt Liotta]

BTW, here is a thread on this subject if anyone cares for more insight.

http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=10&thre
adid=415411&STARTPAGE=1

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix (was RE: MM Has No Plans to
Support
> Apache 2.0)
> 
> You may not be wrong in your lack of support of new versions of CF. It
> has become clear me and many others that CFMX and Apache 1.3.x on *nix
> is not ready for primetime. Unless your organization can make use of
> Apache 2.0.x, you shouldn't upgrade to CFMX at this time.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Justin Greene [mailto:24760158988311636@;spamex.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:18 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
> >
> > This is a particularly sore spot for me as I started the same thread
a
> > while
> > back when MM refused to create a -EAPI build of the 1.3.x apache dll
> for
> > CF
> > 4.5.  They tried to claim that DEAPI was post 4.5 and therefore I
was
> > asking
> > for legacy support, then when I showed them that DEAPI actually
> existed
> > prior to the release of 4.5 they ultimately said they would do it,
> then
> > never came through.
> >
> > Because of that I will no longer support the new versions of Cold
> Fusion
> > as
> > a developer.  I am still running 4.5 for most of my products, which
is
> > stable and fast enough, and will be porting to something else,
either
> Java
> > or PHP when a new developmetn is required.
> >
> > MM lost a long time Cold Fusion develment house over this (we have
> been
> > developing in CF since version 1.5), which is stupid as it is a
simple
> > recompile.  Clearly this is about forcing upgrades down our throats
> and
> > not
> > about providing good support for the customer base, which ultimatly
> makes
> > us
> > buy the upgrades willingly.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:44 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
> > >
> > > While I agree with you that Macromedia should support Apache
> > > 2.0 for CF
> > > 5, I disagree with your post. You seem to imply that a normal IT
> shop
> > > wouldn't want to upgrade to CFMX until after it matures for a
> > > couple of
> > > years, yet you want to upgrade to Apache 2.0, which is certainly
> > > immature in comparison to Apache 1.3.
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt Liotta
> > > President & CEO
> > > Montara Software, Inc.
> > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > > 888-408-0900 x901
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb@;outofchaos.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:39 AM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: MM Has No Plans to Support Apache 2.0
> > > >
> > > > The MM Partners office informs me that
> > > > MM has no plans to supply a mod_coldfusion.so
> > > > for CF 5.0/Linux/Apache 2.0
> > > >
> > > > 'Not enough demand' they say.
> > > >
> > > > So know we know MM's policy on one-release-
> > > > back support. They don't do what's right: they
> > > > do what will not get them punished by losing
> > > > too many customers.
> > > >
> > > > If you haven't picked the platform that's going to be most
> > > > popular, you're out of luck, and even if you have, maybe
> > > > you're out of luck anyway, and if you're not prepared to
> > > > keep churning through releases (rather than maintaining
> > > > existing release levels for several years, as is normal I/T
> > > > practice) you're out of luck.
> > > >
> > > > As such, MM has decided that Cold Fusion is the
> > > > wrong choice for mission-critical business applications,
> > > > because it will not have the kind of support that the
> > > > I/T industry expects.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP

[Joshua O'Connor-Rose]

OK so COM is dead, I would like to see the thread. Do you have a link.
That would also imply that no one uses it anymore.

Anyway the office I'm developing for is using all that dead stuff.

I have been advocating replacing what they have with Verity and hopefully that is what 
the system will convert to. But right now . . . I'm a slave to a contract.

In response to your suggestion (thanks for the post)

myObject = myObject.item("title");
myObject = "title";

This throws an error "the parameter is incorrect" on this line:
myObject = myObject.item("title"); 
which I assume is coming from the object itself.

So that doesn't work either. (It as if the object won't accept the name of the option 
without an assignment operator).

Any other ideas? or am I going to have to use asp?

-Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is Good
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Re: Method In CFOBJECT

[Sosnow, Michael]

I have found with using COM objects and CFOBJECT that I have to pass all the
input values for the method, even if they are optional. But I am not
familiar with SA FileUp.  I am using CF 5.0. 

Michael

> -Original Message-
> From: Sim Graves [mailto:sim@;simgraves.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:46 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Method In CFOBJECT
> 
> 
> I thought it might be a good alternative to uploading large 
> files with CFFILE.
> 
> Any other alternatives would be welcome.
> 
> Sim
> 
> Russ wrote:
> 
> > Why do you have to use SA FileUp?
> >
> > I use:
> >
> > 
> >  destination="--ABSOLUTE 
> > LOCATION FROM WEB HOST HERE--\#qClients.clientDirectory#\"
> > nameconflict="overwrite">
> >
> > Without any issue.
> >
> > Will that option not work for you?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sim Graves [mailto:sim@;simgraves.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:00 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Method In CFOBJECT
> > >
> > >
> > > The code below works fine in ASP:
> > >
> > > <% Set SA_FileUp = Server.CreateObject("SoftArtisans.FileUp") %>
> > > <% SA_FileUp.SaveAs 
> "C:\inetpub\wwwroot\newfiles\pooh.jpg" 
> > > %>
> > >
> > > Using CFOBJECT, I can find on syntax that will invoke the method, 
> > > "SaveAs".  Why shouldn't this work:
> > >
> > >  > > ACTION="CREATE">
> > >
> > >  
> > >SA_FileUp.SaveAs(C:\inetpub\wwwroot\newfiles\pooh.jpg");
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Sim Graves
> > >

RE: CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP

[Jason Lees (National Express)]

Coms not dead yet as you say theres too many older applications using it,
but the way forward is webservices, which is basically a newer version of
Com without the all the hassles.

With reagrd the problem try

myMethod = myObject.item("title");
myMethod = "title";



Jason Lees
Systems Developer
National Express Coaches Ltd.



-Original Message-
From: Joshua O'Connor-Rose [mailto:whifflebat@;hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 November 2002 15:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFOBJECT and conversion from ASP


OK so COM is dead, I would like to see the thread. Do you have a link.
That would also imply that no one uses it anymore.

Anyway the office I'm developing for is using all that dead stuff.

I have been advocating replacing what they have with Verity and hopefully
that is what the system will convert to. But right now . . . I'm a slave to
a contract.

In response to your suggestion (thanks for the post)

myObject = myObject.item("title");
myObject = "title";

This throws an error "the parameter is incorrect" on this line:
myObject = myObject.item("title"); 
which I assume is coming from the object itself.

So that doesn't work either. (It as if the object won't accept the name of
the option without an assignment operator).

Any other ideas? or am I going to have to use asp?

-Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is Good

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Referencing component packages

[Blum, Jason (SAA)]

Forta, New Riders and others all say that you can call put all your
components in one folder and then reference them just as you would an
include, style sheet, whatever.

But I am absolutely stumped on how to do this.  Have followed their
instructions very carefully and played with variations but cannot seem
to do it.

If
/MySite/index.cfm

wants to instate
/MySite/components/Query.cfc

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Re: cfscript book

[samcfug]

http://www.fusionscript.com


=
Douglas White
group Manager
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http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: cfscript book


| does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend?
|
| thanks!
|
| ..tony
|
| Tony Weeg
| Senior Web Developer
| Information System Design
| Navtrak, Inc.
| Fleet Management Solutions
| www.navtrak.net
| 410.548.2337
|
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Re: Referencing component packages

[Marlon Moyer]

I believe it should be



Blum, Jason (SAA) wrote:

>Forta, New Riders and others all say that you can call put all your
>components in one folder and then reference them just as you would an
>include, style sheet, whatever.
>
>But I am absolutely stumped on how to do this.  Have followed their
>instructions very carefully and played with variations but cannot seem
>to do it.
>
>If
>/MySite/index.cfm
>
>wants to instate
>/MySite/components/Query.cfc
>
>then works great.
>
>But going back up the directory structure, say from:
>
>/MySite/admin/index.cfm
>
>seems to be impossible without setting up a mapping in CFAdmin...
>
>I've tried dot notation, forward slashes, backward slashes, from the
>wwwroot, from the root drive, ExpandPath, etc., etc
>
>Anybody know what I am doing wrong???
>
>
>
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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Sandy Clark]

Beyond Compare
Http://www.scootersoftware.com

-Original Message-
From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Compare code on two pages...


I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and
see what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two
different files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need
to compare code to see what has changed?

Thanks,

Chris 

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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Rob Rohan]

on unix (linux, cygwin, mac osx too I think) you can use the command "diff"

Winblows help says "comp" is used to compare two files.

good luck
rob

-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:slLists@;shayna.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Compare code on two pages...


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-Original Message-
From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Compare code on two pages...


I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and
see what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two
different files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need
to compare code to see what has changed?

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)

[Jason Miller]

I agree - all new clients for the past year are carefully accepted - but 
funny thing is - that all this little piddly work that others ignore - 
if handled right can be a profit point for someone else.

You just have to know how to deal with the PITA clients. When to ditch 
them - when to price them away and when to efficiently take there 
changes and make a large chunk of change. These smaller clients just put 
in a nice large free form in ground pool for my daughter  *grin

Funny thing is that while jumping on every opportunity is a small 
business  desire and nightmare - I definately advise against it as well. 
BUT Customer Service and handling your clients and their needs - even 
after the thought has set my agency apart. 0 advertising, 0 cold calls - 
booked for the next 6 months on 100% referrals because of customer 
service and my flexibility - and meeting their needs.

Funny thing is -what has allowed me to deal with these pain in the ass 
clients easier.. Cold Fusion - with template includes and database 
content -

Getting back to case in point - tools to effectively allow customers to 
participate in site maintenance will provoke happiness for them, and 
future large changes and modfications to site when they see the results 
a maintained site bring in.

jay m.

P.S. - Of course there is always that "PITA" that you should run from 
screaming. he he

Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:

>Jay,
>
>Yeah - and another law is at work here. It's called Mark's PITA law (and it
>has nothing to do with animals).  It's states:
>
>"...the smaller the fee the client is willing to pay, the bigger the PITA he
>or she will become"
>
>If you have trouble with my acronym, the first three words are "Pain in
>the...".
>
>It amazes me how many folks buy the cheapest possible hosting package, pair
>down specs to below bare bones because of the cost involved, then call you
>every other day because they are still not happy with a verdona font, or the
>style of the vlink ("... have we tried Tahoma yet?  I think I'd really like
>to try tahoma for a few days").  About a year and a half ago I found a
>few contractors in my area and I just started shifting any clients below a
>certain threshold away from my business.
>
>That's scary for a small business because you think you have to jump on
>every opportunity.  What I found, however, is that my focus improved, my
>time to release for projects improved, and my documentation improved.  I was
>able to take on larger projects.  Now, the only sites like that are left
>with that "small scale" problem are a legacy of our start up.
>
>-mk
>
>
>
>
>
>-
>I personally have 1 full file box full of lengthy emails explaining a 1
>sentence change on a non commerce page - of which I have had to resort
>to printing, dating and putting time spent on it and having it accompany
>a bill for those clients who bawk at a measly $200 bill one month...
>while I have had to read through 50 emails  - print 30 of them, and note
>everything - All of which consumes more consumables(printer ink) and
>time in administration then the actual change takes - Funny thing is
>clients - feel that part of that time is just part of doing business and
>they are not responsible for that.
>
>I have a feeling that I am not the only one with 6 out of 10 clients who
>fit this.
>
>jay m.
>
>
>
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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)]

That's what I use.  A friend showed it to me and now I'm hooked.

My 2 cents.

Matthew P. Smith 
Web Developer, Object Oriented 
Naval Education & Training Professional 
Development & Technology Center 
(NETPDTC) 
(850)452-1001 ext. 1245 
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [mailto:Neil.Robertson-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:24 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: Compare code on two pages...
>>
>>use WinDiff.
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RE: Compare code on two pages...

[Greg McDaniel]

I use Beyond Compare and it allows you easily
see the differences and to move code
between the two files.

Excellent tool.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:slLists@;shayna.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Compare code on two pages...


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-Original Message-
From: Chris White [mailto:whitec@;earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Compare code on two pages...


I have the need to take the same page but there different versions and
see what has changed.  Is it possible to see the differences in two
different files using DreamweaverMX?  What are others using if they need
to compare code to see what has changed?

Thanks,

Chris


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