Re: ColdFusion alike functions for ActionScript

2005-10-17 Thread Kevin Aebig
Nice work... and thanks!

!K

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Subject: ColdFusion alike functions for ActionScript


 Hi @ all!

 This week I released a ActionScript class with some CF alike string  
 array
 functions.
 The whole info and the files you get on my Blog:
 http://www.newsight.de/2005/10/12/coldfusion-alike-functions-for-actionscrip
 t/


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Re: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Drew
Norton seems to be the root of a lot of problems.. Always gets in the way!

MD

On 17/10/05, Mark Fuqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes it should and it was.  It turns out it was Norton Internet Services.
 Disable it and I could connect.  Wasted a whole weekend figuring that out.
 Don't I feel stupid.

 Thanks for the suggestions though.

 Mark

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 From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:36 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion


 isnt it a service and should start anyway?
 that is, if its set up for automatic startup.

 tw

 On 10/15/05, Mark Fuqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there a way to force coldfusion to start on my laptop?  I used to be
  able to start coldfusion simply by browsing to a page on my local root.
  That started to be problematic and then for a while starting coldfusion
  administrator from the start menu worked.  Now, it takes me many many
 tries
  to get coldfusion started.  It is driving me crazy, though many would say
 it
  is a rather short trip.
 
  Is there a way to start coldfusion from the run command or something.  And
  how do I tell whether or not it is running.  May be I am getting the Page
  cannot be displayed error while coldfusion is actually running?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
 
 
 



 

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CFDocument font probs

2005-10-17 Thread Snake
I get the following problem with cfdocument when I use fontembed

access denied (java.io.FilePermission c:\windows\fonts\times.ttf read)

Please see the following as an example

http://www.hoa.cfmxhosting.co.uk/pdftest.cfm


I have even given EVERYONE access on the fonts folder and it will wont work.

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Re: CFDocument font probs

2005-10-17 Thread John Beynon
what about giving the user the cfmx server is running as explicit access - i 
seem to remember about Everyone not actually infact being Everyone

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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Sandy Clark
I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
a major consideration.

However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

Sandra Clark 

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What 
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps 
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build 
 and use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that 
 as an educational institution, we have some people that will disable 
 JS, but it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it 
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on 
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very 
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS 
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do 
 you give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

 Thanks


 



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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread James Holmes
That's strange - the AJAX driven DHTML JS I've built into web pages
works perfectly with more than one screen reader. Is there a
particular reason they made that ruling?

On 10/17/05, Sandy Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
 page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
 accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
 a major consideration.

 However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
 beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
 javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Dawson, Michael
I guess that is the problem, then.  Google, apparently, doesn't care to follow 
the 508 or WCAG requirements in regards to their Gmail and Google Maps 
applications.
 
We are a privately-owned university which would not fall under any 
requirements, unless we wanted to, so we are a somewhat flexible.
 
As far as our intranet, it's not totally under our control.  Although we have 
standardized on most university-owned computers, we still have to deal with 
student computers which are not under our control.  However, as I said, 
students will be forced to use Blackboard beginning the next full school year.  
Since it requires JS, either the students will bitch about it or quietly enable 
JS.
 
As we are rebuilding our intranet site, I can find numerous places where 
JS/AJAX would certainly improve the experience for the majority of users.  Now, 
I just need to figure out the best solution for when a person disables JS.
 
Thanks for everyone's comments, and if you have more suggestions to share, 
please do.
 
M!ke



From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 6:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript



I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
a major consideration.

However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

Sandra Clark

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)





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RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Dawson, Michael
How do you handle non-JS users, technically?
 
Let's say you have a page that requires JS.  Do you immediately redirect them 
(using JS) to a JS-enabled page and then leave the others with noscript?
 
Or, do you keep the JS and non-JS content on the same page?
 
Thanks
M!ke



From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 9:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript



Internally as you've said... I'd say, Sorry, you need JS
To an extent, I would do it on many external sites as well.

Sometimes budget doesn't give room to do two versions of specific components
so the client needs to decide which is more important to them. Global
usability or flare for the masses. If budget does allow it, I usually write
2 versions. (provided that the site isn't dependant on something like
milonic menu throughout anyway)

Of course, you are already running blackboard (I feel for you) and users
must have JS for 95% of that anyway so why not an intranet?

On a different note, I found so many bugs in Blackboard, it wasn't even
funny! SQL Injection heaven.

You could mimic the data structure and half the code simply from error
messages in that thing!

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site.  What
is the current mentality on JS?  I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people.  I will say, that as an
educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
it should be a minimal amount.

Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
their ID number, name or email address.  AJAX will make this task very
easy.

However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
version of the page?

I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

Thanks






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RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Martin Parry
I personally use Urchin web stats on all of my sites.

As part of it, it has some JS that creates cookies which are available
immediately to a CF page. So the visitor hits the page, the urchin code
kicks off and sets a domain cookie. You can then check for the existence
of it in the cookie scope. If it doesn't exist you can assume that JS is
disabled. 

Martin Parry
http://www.beetrootstreet.com

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 October 2005 13:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

How do you handle non-JS users, technically?
 
Let's say you have a page that requires JS.  Do you immediately redirect
them (using JS) to a JS-enabled page and then leave the others with
noscript?
 
Or, do you keep the JS and non-JS content on the same page?
 
Thanks
M!ke



From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 9:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript



Internally as you've said... I'd say, Sorry, you need JS
To an extent, I would do it on many external sites as well.

Sometimes budget doesn't give room to do two versions of specific
components
so the client needs to decide which is more important to them. Global
usability or flare for the masses. If budget does allow it, I usually
write
2 versions. (provided that the site isn't dependant on something like
milonic menu throughout anyway)

Of course, you are already running blackboard (I feel for you) and users
must have JS for 95% of that anyway so why not an intranet?

On a different note, I found so many bugs in Blackboard, it wasn't even
funny! SQL Injection heaven.

You could mimic the data structure and half the code simply from error
messages in that thing!

:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site.  What
is the current mentality on JS?  I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people.  I will say, that as an
educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
it should be a minimal amount.

Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
their ID number, name or email address.  AJAX will make this task very
easy.

However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
version of the page?

I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

Thanks








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Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?

2005-10-17 Thread Deanna Schneider
I'd be interested.

On 10/14/05, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For some time now, Vivio Technologies has been debating whether or not
 to put forth the effort to complete the development of a completely
 free, (under a modified open-source MIT license) CFML calendar
 application. The idea was to develop a calendar application that anyone
 could do anything they want with, and help support the Cold Fusion
 community as a whole. Companies who develop in CFML would have the
 ability to -re-design, re-code, -re-brand, re-sell, or whatever else
 they wanted to do with the calendar application. The calendar would be
 able to run under BlueDragon FREE edition, and use open-source databases
 like PostgreSQL and MySQL. That way, no user anywhere would need to pay
 for anything more then the cost of hosting in order to deploy the
 calendar.

 Our question is simple: Would there be any interest in something like
 this?

 If there is significant interest, Vivio Technologies will make the
 investment to complete the project and deliver the calendar. If there is
 only a small amount of interest, then we'll quit wasting our time
 debating over this project and move on to projects which are of more
 value to us and/or the community.

 Please take a moment to visit our current calendar site located at the
 following URL:

 http://calendar.viviotech.net/

 Please understand that the calendar project isn't *quite* finished, but
 if there is interest we'll be more then happy to put the finishing
 touches (the spit and polish - if you will) on the calendar and make it
 available, completely free of charge, to the community.

 We welcome any comments you may have - good or bad. Thank you for
 helping us in this decision.

 --
 Warm regards,
 Jordan Michaels
 Vivio Technologies
 http://www.viviotech.net/
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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Andy Matthews
John! You literally took the words right out mf my mouth. I've said those
exact words before and I still believe it. Honestly, except for nerds,
security-paranoid hackers and the occasional non-tech person who's disabled
javascript because they were told that someone could steal their credit card
information with it turned on, how many people REALLY have js disabled? More
likely that they would have an older browser that doesn't support new
methods than no javascript.

Do you still worry about web-safe colors too? :)

!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
 use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that as an
 educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
 it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
 give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

 Thanks






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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Andy Matthews
Sandy...

How is having javascript on your website causing a site to be
un-accessible? That makes no sense.

!//--
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web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
a major consideration.

However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

Sandra Clark

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build
 and use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that
 as an educational institution, we have some people that will disable
 JS, but it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do
 you give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

 Thanks








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RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Andy Matthews
So Martin...

Care to share with us the percentage of users who have js disabled on your
site?

!//--
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web developer
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


I personally use Urchin web stats on all of my sites.

As part of it, it has some JS that creates cookies which are available
immediately to a CF page. So the visitor hits the page, the urchin code
kicks off and sets a domain cookie. You can then check for the existence
of it in the cookie scope. If it doesn't exist you can assume that JS is
disabled.

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-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 October 2005 13:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

How do you handle non-JS users, technically?

Let's say you have a page that requires JS.  Do you immediately redirect
them (using JS) to a JS-enabled page and then leave the others with
noscript?

Or, do you keep the JS and non-JS content on the same page?

Thanks
M!ke



From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 10/15/2005 9:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript



Internally as you've said... I'd say, Sorry, you need JS
To an extent, I would do it on many external sites as well.

Sometimes budget doesn't give room to do two versions of specific
components
so the client needs to decide which is more important to them. Global
usability or flare for the masses. If budget does allow it, I usually
write
2 versions. (provided that the site isn't dependant on something like
milonic menu throughout anyway)

Of course, you are already running blackboard (I feel for you) and users
must have JS for 95% of that anyway so why not an intranet?

On a different note, I found so many bugs in Blackboard, it wasn't even
funny! SQL Injection heaven.

You could mimic the data structure and half the code simply from error
messages in that thing!

.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site.  What
is the current mentality on JS?  I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people.  I will say, that as an
educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
it should be a minimal amount.

Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
their ID number, name or email address.  AJAX will make this task very
easy.

However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
version of the page?

I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

Thanks










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Re: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Ferguson
I'm going to post this over on the cfajax list this morning as well. 
There's been a similar discussion over there for the past few days.

--Ferg

James Holmes wrote:

OK, folks, here it is:

http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/cfajax_return_types.htm

Please leave any relevant comments there (or alternatively post in
this list) if you think changes are appropriate.

I'll be doing more articles on CFAJAX, to try to make up for the go
and find it for yourself style of documentation currently on the
site. If Arun wants to use any of this stuff as documentation, he is
welcome.

On 10/17/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

James, this is very interesting.  Thanks for the link.

M!ke

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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco

Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be available
for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is innerHTML is the
fastest method of getting that content there in all browsers.

http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html







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Re: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-17 Thread James Holmes
Ta - it's about time I got on that list I guess.

On 10/17/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm going to post this over on the cfajax list this morning as well.
 There's been a similar discussion over there for the past few days.

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Re: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Ferguson
Another thing to think about is how/why your users come to any given 
site. If I have an ecommerce app into which I'm desparately trying to 
pull as many people as possible, I'm highly unlikely to do anything that 
might preclude anyone from efficiently using the site. However, if I 
have a site that people are using because they need to use it, then 
there's less of a problem requiring js or flash...

--Ferg

Bobby Hartsfield wrote:

Internally as you’ve said... I'd say, Sorry, you need JS 
To an extent, I would do it on many external sites as well.

Sometimes budget doesn't give room to do two versions of specific components
so the client needs to decide which is more important to them. Global
usability or flare for the masses. If budget does allow it, I usually write
2 versions. (provided that the site isn’t dependant on something like
milonic menu throughout anyway)

Of course, you are already running blackboard (I feel for you) and users
must have JS for 95% of that anyway so why not an intranet? 

On a different note, I found so many bugs in Blackboard, it wasn't even
funny! SQL Injection heaven.

You could mimic the data structure and half the code simply from error
messages in that thing!

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site.  What
is the current mentality on JS?  I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.
 
I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people.  I will say, that as an
educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
it should be a minimal amount.
 
Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
their ID number, name or email address.  AJAX will make this task very
easy.
 
However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
version of the page?
 
I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

Thanks






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RE: Are there any CFeclipse tutorials out there?

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
You should also join and/or search the mailing list.  There have been a
LOT of very helpful threads covering most of the basic help people need
when starting with CFE:
http://www.cfeclipse.org/go/project/lists 

 -Original Message-
 From: Victor Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:14 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Are there any CFeclipse tutorials out there?
 
 Hi,
  I am jumping into cfeclipse as we speak. Installed the core 
 eclipse and
 updated the cfeclispe. Unfortunately it seems that the books 
 on line are not
 available. Are there any tutorials, books that show how to 
 set it up with
 coldfusion and integrate it with subversion , or it's just a 
 matter of trial
 and error.
   Thanks
 Victor

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Re: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-17 Thread John Wilker
looks good. THanks for your efforts on this!!

J

On 10/16/05, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, folks, here it is:

 http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/cfajax_return_types.htm

 Please leave any relevant comments there (or alternatively post in
 this list) if you think changes are appropriate.

 I'll be doing more articles on CFAJAX, to try to make up for the go
 and find it for yourself style of documentation currently on the
 site. If Arun wants to use any of this stuff as documentation, he is
 welcome.

 On 10/17/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  James, this is very interesting. Thanks for the link.
 
  M!ke
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:27 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco
 
  Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be available
  for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is innerHTML is the
  fastest method of getting that content there in all browsers.
 
  http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html
 
 

 

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Re: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread John Wilker
It'd be interesting to see the numbers on how many people disable JS these
days

On 10/17/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another thing to think about is how/why your users come to any given
 site. If I have an ecommerce app into which I'm desparately trying to
 pull as many people as possible, I'm highly unlikely to do anything that
 might preclude anyone from efficiently using the site. However, if I
 have a site that people are using because they need to use it, then
 there's less of a problem requiring js or flash...

 --Ferg

 Bobby Hartsfield wrote:

 Internally as you've said... I'd say, Sorry, you need JS
 To an extent, I would do it on many external sites as well.
 
 Sometimes budget doesn't give room to do two versions of specific
 components
 so the client needs to decide which is more important to them. Global
 usability or flare for the masses. If budget does allow it, I usually
 write
 2 versions. (provided that the site isn't dependant on something like
 milonic menu throughout anyway)
 
 Of course, you are already running blackboard (I feel for you) and users
 must have JS for 95% of that anyway so why not an intranet?
 
 On a different note, I found so many bugs in Blackboard, it wasn't even
 funny! SQL Injection heaven.
 
 You could mimic the data structure and half the code simply from error
 messages in that thing!
 
 ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
 Bobby Hartsfield
 http://acoderslife.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:31 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript
 
 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.
 
 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
 use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that as an
 educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
 it should be a minimal amount.
 
 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very
 easy.
 
 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
 version of the page?
 
 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
 give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 

 

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RE: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-17 Thread Andy Matthews
Got any real world sample code to go with it?

:)

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From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco


looks good. THanks for your efforts on this!!

J

On 10/16/05, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, folks, here it is:

 http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/cfajax_return_types.htm

 Please leave any relevant comments there (or alternatively post in
 this list) if you think changes are appropriate.

 I'll be doing more articles on CFAJAX, to try to make up for the go
 and find it for yourself style of documentation currently on the
 site. If Arun wants to use any of this stuff as documentation, he is
 welcome.

 On 10/17/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  James, this is very interesting. Thanks for the link.
 
  M!ke
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:27 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco
 
  Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be available
  for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is innerHTML is the
  fastest method of getting that content there in all browsers.
 
  http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html
 
 





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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Sandy Clark
Many screen readers for the blind, can't deal with DOM changes that happen
after an onLoad.  I'm not saying that javascript in and of itself makes a
page inaccessible, I'm saying that the requirement for a page to meet either
508 or WCAG accessibility guidelines require that the page work with
javascript disabled.

Section 508 has two paragraphs that can be construed with this in mind for
DHTML /Javascript
(d) Documents shall be organized so they are readable without requiring an
associated style sheet.
(l) When pages utilize scripting languages to display content, or to create
interface elements, the information provided by the script shall be
identified with functional text that can be read by assistive technology.

WCAG is more direct.
6.1 Organize documents so they may be read without style sheets. For
example, when an HTML document is rendered without associated style sheets,
it must still be possible to read the document. [Priority 1] 
6.3 Ensure that pages are usable when scripts, applets, or other
programmatic objects are turned off or not supported. If this is not
possible, provide equivalent information on an alternative accessible page.
[Priority 1] 


For more information see
Section 508
http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContentID=12#Web

WCAG
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/

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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

Sandy...

How is having javascript on your website causing a site to be
un-accessible? That makes no sense.

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-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
a major consideration.

However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

Sandra Clark

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What 
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps 
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build 
 and use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that 
 as an educational institution, we have some people that will disable 
 JS, but it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it 
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on 
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very 
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS 
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do 
 you give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

 Thanks










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RE: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
Thanks James, (and the other dudes that mentioned this)!  I have never
run into any problems using innerHTML, but I haven't done a wide breadth
of cfajax projects yet either.  I'll keep this in mind.

By the way, does anybody have a bookmark or something for a site that
discusses which DOM methods aren't available when using innerHTML?

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco
 
 Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be
 available for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is
 innerHTML is the fastest method of getting that content there in all
 browsers.
 
 http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html
 
 On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But this doesn't always correctly update the page's DOM, 
 right?  When we
  were testing this, I think IE (mac or pc, I forget) had 
 some issues with
  inserting an entire branch of information into a single container
  without acutally creating the page elements using JS.
 
  I also don't remember the context in which it didn't work 
 for us.  It
  may have been related to dynamically creating a form for later
  submission.  If you are only outputting data, this will 
 probably work
  cross-browser.
 
  I guess one could determine this by viewing the DOM viewer 
 that comes
  with FF's and IE's web developer toolbars.
 
  M!ke
 
  On 10/15/05, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Michael,
  
   I don't use much JS to do something with the cfajax results.  I
   preformat all the data in the CF function by stuffing 
 HTML into the
   variable that gets returned.  Then I just use a simple function to
   stuff all the HTML and data into a div or something:


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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
She didn’t write it, she simply pointed it out and it's true.

http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContentID=12

I love it when .gov sites are written in CF... it makes me feel all giddy.
 
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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

Sandy...

How is having javascript on your website causing a site to be
un-accessible? That makes no sense.

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From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
a major consideration.

However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

Sandra Clark

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build
 and use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that
 as an educational institution, we have some people that will disable
 JS, but it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do
 you give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

 Thanks










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Re: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Ferguson
Here's a simple bit that just set's the fields using the array returned 
for first and last names and outputs the password by replacing the div's 
innerHTML.

cfinclude template=/scripts/cfajax/core/cfajax.cfm

cffunction name=netIDLookup hint=type='keyvalue' jsreturn='array'
cfargument name=netID required=yes type=string
cftry
cfquery name=getPerson datasource=#request.dsn#
  SELECT * FROM user
  WHERE ID = '#netID#'
/cfquery
cfset user = ArrayNew(1)
cfif getPerson.recordcount gt 0
cfset arrayAppend(user,firname,#getPerson.first_name#)
cfset arrayAppend(user,lastname,#getPerson.last_name#)
cfset arrayAppend(user,password,#getPerson.password#)
cfelse
cfset arrayAppend(user,Network ID not found.)
cfset arrayAppend(user,Please try again)
cfset arrayAppend(user, )
/cfif
cfcatch type=Any
cfset error = ArrayNew(1)
cfset arrayAppend(error, error occurred in function)
cfreturn error
/cfcatch
/cftry
cfreturn user
/cffunction


script type='text/javascript' src='/ajax/core/engine.js'/script
script type='text/javascript' src='/ajax/core/util.js'/script
script type='text/javascript' src='/ajax/core/settings.js'/script
script language=javascript
_cfscriptLocation =  http://localhost/test.cfm;;  
   
function getName(){
var netID = DWRUtil.getValue(userID);
//alert(netID);
DWREngine._execute( _cfscriptLocation, null, 'netIDLookup', 
netID,getUserInfo);
}
function getUserInfo(user){
DWRUtil.setValue(firstname, user[0].VALUE);
DWRUtil.setValue(lastname, user[1].VALUE);
document.getElementById(pass).innerHTML = user[2].VALUE;
}
function init(){
DWRUtil.useLoadingMessage();
DWREngine._errorHandler =  errorHandler;
}
/script
cfoutput
body onload=init();
form name=test action=
input type=text value=3 name=userID id=userID
input type=button onclick=getName();br
Fname:input type=text value= name=firstname 
id=firstnamebr
Lname:input type=text value= name=lastname id=lastnamebr
/form
div id=passnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;/div
/body
/cfoutput

Andy Matthews wrote:

Got any real world sample code to go with it?

:)

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RE: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?

2005-10-17 Thread Ciliotta, Mario
I would be very interested in completely free CFML calendar.

-Original Message-
From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?


For some time now, Vivio Technologies has been debating whether or not
to put forth the effort to complete the development of a completely
free, (under a modified open-source MIT license) CFML calendar
application. The idea was to develop a calendar application that anyone
could do anything they want with, and help support the Cold Fusion
community as a whole. Companies who develop in CFML would have the
ability to -re-design, re-code, -re-brand, re-sell, or whatever else
they wanted to do with the calendar application. The calendar would be
able to run under BlueDragon FREE edition, and use open-source databases
like PostgreSQL and MySQL. That way, no user anywhere would need to pay
for anything more then the cost of hosting in order to deploy the calendar.

Our question is simple: Would there be any interest in something like this?

If there is significant interest, Vivio Technologies will make the
investment to complete the project and deliver the calendar. If there is
only a small amount of interest, then we'll quit wasting our time
debating over this project and move on to projects which are of more
value to us and/or the community.

Please take a moment to visit our current calendar site located at the
following URL:

http://calendar.viviotech.net/

Please understand that the calendar project isn't *quite* finished, but
if there is interest we'll be more then happy to put the finishing
touches (the spit and polish - if you will) on the calendar and make it
available, completely free of charge, to the community.

We welcome any comments you may have - good or bad. Thank you for
helping us in this decision.

-- 
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
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Re: godaddy.com now has CFMX7 hosting!

2005-10-17 Thread Matt Robertson
hmmm.  my goDaddy reseller web site has been dead as a doornail for
several minutes now.  I was in mid-transaction, too.

And has anyone tried working very hard thru their control panel
system?  I have about 20 domains with them and it has been a challenge
not to chuck the computer out the window when using it.  My favorite: 
Register a new domain under your account and, while you can list a new
registrant, it takes the last names it saw you use for all the contact
info.  You can't mod contacts on a new purchase.  So you have to
unlock the domain, do a contact change after purchase and then re-lock
them... which sends email alerts flying to all the wrong people.

In addition to reliability I wonder how much more of that Charlie
Foxtrot kind of stuff goes on with their hosting.

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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Fuqua
I like seeing .gov sites written in CF.  The reason I think most .gov sites
are written in CF is because those contracts are low bid and CF has an
advantage there.  If you meet the requirements and have the lowest price,
you get the job.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


She didn’t write it, she simply pointed it out and it's true.

http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContentID=12

I love it when .gov sites are written in CF... it makes me feel all giddy.

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

Sandy...

How is having javascript on your website causing a site to be
un-accessible? That makes no sense.

!//--
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web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-

-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript


I can tell you that section 508 and the WCAG both have a requirement that a
page be able to work without javascript in order to be considered
accessible.  If you are required to build accessible web pages, then that is
a major consideration.

However, IBM demonstrated an accessible javascript which the new Firefox
beta is supporting.  Once that is widely available, I believe that the
javascript disabled rule for accessibility will be deprecated.

Sandra Clark

-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build
 and use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that
 as an educational institution, we have some people that will disable
 JS, but it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do
 you give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

 Thanks












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File Exists on a Virtual Directory

2005-10-17 Thread Chad McCue
I have created a virtual directory called PropertyImages in IIS that holds 
all my property images. The directory is e:\photos\

I need to do a FileExists(), on that directory to see if the property exists if 
not show a default image. My coldfusion files are on
my d:\ drive.

to show the images I am using and they show fine when they exist:
img src=/propertyImages/imagename

Anyone know howI can do this?



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No need to var exceptionVariable for catch block in a cfc in CFMX 7.0.1?

2005-10-17 Thread Hua Wei
Hello All,
I just noticed that if there is a var exceptionVariable for the catch block in 
a cfc (code below), CFMX 7.0.1 throws the following error 

Cannot declare local variable excpt twice. 
Local variables cannot have the same names as parameters or other local 
variables.

This used to work on cfmx7.
Does this mean no need to var exceptionVariable for the catch block in a cfc?

Thanks

Hua

== code 
cfcomponent displayname=Status Listener output=false

  cffunction name=save access=public returntype=void output=false
  cfscript
var excpt = ;

try{
// try block
}

catch (Any excpt) {
 //catch block
}
  /cfscript
  
  /cffunction

/cfcomponent

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QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread JediHomer
Hi all,

I'm running across a weird problem involving LIKE statements in Query
of Queries.

Basically,  in the initiation of a CFC, a query is made to the DB.

One of the CFC methods performs a LIKE or = depending on string length
to the this.table.

Currently the SQL looks something like:

cfquery ... 
SELECT copy
FROM THIS.Table
WHERE
cfif Len(Arguments.theCopy) GT 190
Lower(originalCopy) LIKE (cfqueryparam value=#sCopy#%
cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar /)
cfelse
Lower(originalCopy) = cfqueryparam value=#sCopy#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar /
/cfif
/cfquery


If the value of sCopy is above 190ish then the query crashes with a
200 error?!?!
Removing the % allows the query to run OK...

Trying to simplify this, to rule out the copy being passed in, i added
the following code:

cfset sCopy = RepeatString(a, 194)

If the number is 194 then the query crashes, if the number is 193 or
less the query is fine.

Does anyone know what is happening, and if its possible to fix this?


TIA

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Re: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread Jedi Homer
Forgot to include the environment, 

The Server is running Windows 2000 Server, CF7 and MSSQLServer 2000


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Re: File Exists on a Virtual Directory

2005-10-17 Thread Nathan Strutz
It's all in how you call expandPath()...

expandPath(../myDirectory/mySharedDirectory/)
will return...
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\myDirectory\mySharedDirectory\

However, if you a slash to the beginning, like this...

expandPath(/../myDirectory/mySharedDirectory/)
you will get...
\\sharedComputer\ShareName\shareLocation\mySharedDirectory\

So your code will look something like:
cfif fileExists(expandPath('/propertyImages/imagename.jpg')) ...etc... /cfif

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/

On 10/17/05, Chad McCue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have created a virtual directory called PropertyImages in IIS that holds 
 all my property images. The directory is e:\photos\

 I need to do a FileExists(), on that directory to see if the property exists 
 if not show a default image. My coldfusion files are on
 my d:\ drive.

 to show the images I am using and they show fine when they exist:
 img src=/propertyImages/imagename

 Anyone know howI can do this?



 

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RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Kevin Graeme
Sandy,

You and I read the 508 differently with respect to whether it requires a
page to function without javascript. I defer to the government's own
document interpreting the requirement and giving examples of problem
situations and workarounds:

http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm#(l)

It doesn't say that the page must work with javascript disabled, instead it
talks about how javascript is beneficial to many government sites but that
some ways in which it is implemented that can cause problems.

As I'm sure you know, 508 was specifically created because the WAI rules
were too convoluted and restrictive. On the up side, 508 doesn't
specifically require the page to function without javascript. On the flip
side though, because it's not a clear cut yes/no to javascript it's hard to
agree on what is and isn't compliant because it requires so much subjective
interpretation.

For the point of this discussion though I agree with you that it does seem
that using AJAX in .gov/.edu can be a problem, which is very unfortunate. 

---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services
University of Wisconsin-Extension
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:22 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript
 

 Section 508 has two paragraphs that can be construed with 
 this in mind for DHTML /Javascript
 (d) Documents shall be organized so they are readable without 
 requiring an associated style sheet.
 (l) When pages utilize scripting languages to display 
 content, or to create interface elements, the information 
 provided by the script shall be identified with functional 
 text that can be read by assistive technology.



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RE: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
Just trying to wrap my head around this one, because it looks
interesting.  Not sure I'll be much help...

So, if the length of your string is between 190 and 193, the LIKE
section is fired and works fine?  But if string length  193 the LIKE
section fires and you get a 200 error?  That is strange, to be sure.
Maybe it would help if you posted the error message.

 -Original Message-
 From: JediHomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:17 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm running across a weird problem involving LIKE statements in Query
 of Queries.
 
 Basically,  in the initiation of a CFC, a query is made to the DB.
 
 One of the CFC methods performs a LIKE or = depending on string length
 to the this.table.
 
 Currently the SQL looks something like:
 
 cfquery ... 
 SELECT copy
 FROM THIS.Table
 WHERE
   cfif Len(Arguments.theCopy) GT 190
   Lower(originalCopy) LIKE (cfqueryparam value=#sCopy#%
 cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar /)
   cfelse
   Lower(originalCopy) = cfqueryparam value=#sCopy#
 cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar /
   /cfif
 /cfquery
 
 
 If the value of sCopy is above 190ish then the query crashes with a
 200 error?!?!
 Removing the % allows the query to run OK...
 
 Trying to simplify this, to rule out the copy being passed in, i added
 the following code:
 
 cfset sCopy = RepeatString(a, 194)
 
 If the number is 194 then the query crashes, if the number is 193 or
 less the query is fine.
 
 Does anyone know what is happening, and if its possible to fix this?
 
 
 TIA


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Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?

2005-10-17 Thread Paul Stewart
yep

Paul Stewart
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- Original Message - 
From: Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?


 For some time now, Vivio Technologies has been debating whether or not
 to put forth the effort to complete the development of a completely
 free, (under a modified open-source MIT license) CFML calendar
 application. The idea was to develop a calendar application that anyone
 could do anything they want with, and help support the Cold Fusion
 community as a whole. Companies who develop in CFML would have the
 ability to -re-design, re-code, -re-brand, re-sell, or whatever else
 they wanted to do with the calendar application. The calendar would be
 able to run under BlueDragon FREE edition, and use open-source databases
 like PostgreSQL and MySQL. That way, no user anywhere would need to pay
 for anything more then the cost of hosting in order to deploy the 
 calendar.

 Our question is simple: Would there be any interest in something like 
 this?

 If there is significant interest, Vivio Technologies will make the
 investment to complete the project and deliver the calendar. If there is
 only a small amount of interest, then we'll quit wasting our time
 debating over this project and move on to projects which are of more
 value to us and/or the community.

 Please take a moment to visit our current calendar site located at the
 following URL:

 http://calendar.viviotech.net/

 Please understand that the calendar project isn't *quite* finished, but
 if there is interest we'll be more then happy to put the finishing
 touches (the spit and polish - if you will) on the calendar and make it
 available, completely free of charge, to the community.

 We welcome any comments you may have - good or bad. Thank you for
 helping us in this decision.

 -- 
 Warm regards,
 Jordan Michaels
 Vivio Technologies
 http://www.viviotech.net/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Re: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread Jedi Homer
Simplified version:

cfset qry = QueryNew(Copy) /
cfset QueryAddRow(qry) /
cfset QuerySetCell(qry, Copy, this is the copy!)

cfset sCopy = RepeatString(a, 193) /
cfquery name=qryFoo dbtype=query result=rs
SELECT *
FROM qry
WHERE Lower(Copy) LIKE (cfqueryparam value=#sCopy#% 
cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar /)
/cfquery

cfdump var=#rs#
cfdump var=#qryFoo#

The above works here, if I change the 193 to a 194 I get a 200 error, stack 
trace reports

java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 200

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RE: CFDocument font probs

2005-10-17 Thread Snake
Tried that, makes no difference. 

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFDocument font probs

what about giving the user the cfmx server is running as explicit access - i
seem to remember about Everyone not actually infact being Everyone

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RE: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
Did you try cfsqltype=cf_sql_longvarchar instead of cf_sql_varchar?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jedi Homer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE
 
 Simplified version:
 
 cfset qry = QueryNew(Copy) /
 cfset QueryAddRow(qry) /
 cfset QuerySetCell(qry, Copy, this is the copy!)
 
 cfset sCopy = RepeatString(a, 193) /
 cfquery name=qryFoo dbtype=query result=rs
   SELECT *
   FROM qry
   WHERE Lower(Copy) LIKE (cfqueryparam value=#sCopy#% 
 cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar /)
 /cfquery
 
 cfdump var=#rs#
 cfdump var=#qryFoo#
 
 The above works here, if I change the 193 to a 194 I get a 
 200 error, stack trace reports
 
 java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 200


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Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Terry Troxel
Are there any other Rich Text Editors out there
Besides FCKEditor, Ektron, and Activedit that will
Work with CF5?

I like FCKEditor and have gotten it to work with
CF5, but the image uploading, browsing instructions
Leave me braindead.

If someone has some examples of CF5 usage in regards to
Image uploading and browsing I would appreciate it.

Or any other choices for editors other then the ones
I mentioned.

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Re: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread JediHomer
Yep, tried cf_sql_longvarchar, cf_sql_varchar and without specifying
the SQLType...

Taking out the % then I can make the number go to 199, with 200 breaking it.

This is happening on our CF 7 (running Win 2000) and CF 6.1 (running Linux)



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RE: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Troxel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Are there any other Rich Text Editors out there
 Besides FCKEditor, Ektron, and Activedit that will
 Work with CF5?

TinyMCE: http://tinymce.sf.net/

 If someone has some examples of CF5 usage in regards to
 Image uploading and browsing I would appreciate it.

TinyMCE doesn't ship with plugins for this for CF but you should be able
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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Matt Robertson
One of the guys who is often on this forum wrote an uploading/browsing
plugin for FCK.

Which version are you confused about?  I did a modified uploader for
v1.6, which imho was the last stable version.  I did one for 2.0 that
bypassed the editor's imposed file system, but I see in 2.1 and the
brand-new 2.1.1 they have an entirely new CF developer who has written
new CF code that I haven't quite deciphered, myself.  I was planning
on playing with it some today, since 2.1.1 fixes a bug I reported.

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RE: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Ben Nadel
At my office, we use XStandard.com editor. It has been great! And it creates
excellent xhtml. 
...
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Web Developer
Nylon Technology
6 West 14th Street
New York, NY 10011
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212.691.3477 fax
www.nylontechnology.com
 
Always confident, seldom correct.
 

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Any other Rich Text Editors?

Are there any other Rich Text Editors out there
Besides FCKEditor, Ektron, and Activedit that will
Work with CF5?

I like FCKEditor and have gotten it to work with
CF5, but the image uploading, browsing instructions
Leave me braindead.

If someone has some examples of CF5 usage in regards to
Image uploading and browsing I would appreciate it.

Or any other choices for editors other then the ones
I mentioned.

Terry Troxel




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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Jordan Michaels
Terry Troxel wrote:

Are there any other Rich Text Editors out there
Besides FCKEditor, Ektron, and Activedit that will
Work with CF5?

  

I was impressed with the functionality of Xinha,
(http://xinha.python-hosting.com/) but have never tested in a CF
environment.

I like FCKEditor and have gotten it to work with
CF5, but the image uploading, browsing instructions
Leave me braindead.

If someone has some examples of CF5 usage in regards to
Image uploading and browsing I would appreciate it.

Or any other choices for editors other then the ones
I mentioned.

Terry Troxel
  

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Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?

2005-10-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
will it be available for download then? the links dun werk fer me

On 10/17/05, Paul Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep

 Paul Stewart
 Site Developer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.whichfranchise.com

 - Original Message -
 From: Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:28 PM
 Subject: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?


  For some time now, Vivio Technologies has been debating whether or not
  to put forth the effort to complete the development of a completely
  free, (under a modified open-source MIT license) CFML calendar
  application. The idea was to develop a calendar application that anyone
  could do anything they want with, and help support the Cold Fusion
  community as a whole. Companies who develop in CFML would have the
  ability to -re-design, re-code, -re-brand, re-sell, or whatever else
  they wanted to do with the calendar application. The calendar would be
  able to run under BlueDragon FREE edition, and use open-source databases
  like PostgreSQL and MySQL. That way, no user anywhere would need to pay
  for anything more then the cost of hosting in order to deploy the
  calendar.
 
  Our question is simple: Would there be any interest in something like
  this?
 
  If there is significant interest, Vivio Technologies will make the
  investment to complete the project and deliver the calendar. If there is
  only a small amount of interest, then we'll quit wasting our time
  debating over this project and move on to projects which are of more
  value to us and/or the community.
 
  Please take a moment to visit our current calendar site located at the
  following URL:
 
  http://calendar.viviotech.net/
 
  Please understand that the calendar project isn't *quite* finished, but
  if there is interest we'll be more then happy to put the finishing
  touches (the spit and polish - if you will) on the calendar and make it
  available, completely free of charge, to the community.
 
  We welcome any comments you may have - good or bad. Thank you for
  helping us in this decision.
 
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Re: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-17 Thread Matt Robertson
I'd be interested as well, but I'd think the number could vary widely
depending on the audience of a given site.  I once had a client with a
huge percentage of no-cookie visitors.  Turned out they were being
visited by hundreds of users per organization they contracted with
(which were hospitals) and some of those banned cookies.

That same site used Milonic for their main menu for the last four
years until recently.  I moved them back to html but not because of js
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RE: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
There may be a fix for this, or maybe it's a bug.  But I've had problems
doing QofQ before, and I normally just find a way to work around it.
I'd split the huge amounts of text your searching for into separate
variables or something.  Or maybe figure out a way to directly query the
DB instead of QofQ (which is what I usually end up doing in these
cases).  SQL Server supports subqueries, as I'm sure you know.  So you
should be able to emulate the QofQ you're trying to do by doing a single
query with a subquery.

 -Original Message-
 From: JediHomer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: QoQ, CFQueryParam and LIKE
 
 Yep, tried cf_sql_longvarchar, cf_sql_varchar and without specifying
 the SQLType...
 
 Taking out the % then I can make the number go to 199, with 
 200 breaking it.
 
 This is happening on our CF 7 (running Win 2000) and CF 6.1 
 (running Linux)
 
 
 
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  Did you try cfsqltype=cf_sql_longvarchar instead of 
 cf_sql_varchar?
 
 
 

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Issue with CFFILE... Need a workaround

2005-10-17 Thread Mike McKinney
Hello,

We are running into an issue with a template that used to work and I would 
very much appreciate it if anybody could give us some insight into why it is 
now broken and/or a quick and easy work-around.

The portion of the template which is exibiting behavior different than what 
it used to is a CFFILE tag which appends many rows of data to a remote 
..csv file after pulling this information from a SQL Server table. The SQL 
Server instance is located on the same server as is the .csv file that we 
are writing to.

When executed, the template opens as a pop-up window which using Javascript 
shows a count of records incrementing as they are written across the network 
to the .csv file. Before we upgraded from CF5 to CFMX 7, the records were 
sent across the network in time with the Javascript counter. The file being 
written to would grow incrementally. Now however, after our upgrade to CFMX 
7 the file is not being written to until the counter in the pop-up has 
finished it's count. So it now takes literally twice as long for the .csv 
file to be written to.

Can anyone explain the change in behavior in the CFFILE tag from 
ColdFusion 5 to ColdFusion MX7? Macromedia documentation does not indicate 
any difference when using the action = append attribute as we are.

We do recognize that even if the template was still executing as we wanted 
it to, there are major performance issues here, with pulling data from the 
SQL Server and then sending it right back to a .csv file on the same server. 
For the time being though, we want to avoid doing a major code rewrite.

Thanks very much in advance for any help on this.  What I believe to be 
relevant code is appended below.

- Mike


cfset StartTime = timeformat(now(),HH:MM:SS)


*SNIP*


cfflush
script LANGUAGE = JavaScript type=text/javascript
function display(records,count){
  MainFrm.Records.value = count + ' of ' + records + ' processed';
}
function ThisTime(StartTime,EndTime){
  MainFrm.Time.value = 'Start:' + StartTime + ' Checkpoint: ' + EndTime;
}
/script
cfoutput
script LANGUAGE = JavaScript type=text/javascript
  display('#rosterdata.recordcount#','0');
ThisTime('#StartTime#', '#timeformat(now(),HH:MM:SS)#');
/script
/cfoutput
cfflush


*SNIP*


cfif rosterdata.currentrow mod 100 is 0
cfoutput
  script LANGUAGE = JavaScript type=text/javascript
display('#rosterdata.recordcount#','#rosterdata.currentrow#');
   ThisTime('#StartTime#', '#timeformat(now(),HH:MM:SS)#');
  /script
  /cfoutput
  cfflush
/cfif


*SNIP*


cfloop query=GetTempTable2Data
cfloop list=#ListOfColumns# index=i
   cfif Len(Trim(GetTempTable2Data[#i#][#counte#]))
cfset outline = ListAppend(outline, GetTempTable2Data[#i#][#counte#], 
|)
   /cfif
  /cfloop
cfset counte = counte + 1
  cfif Len(Trim(outline))
cfset l_Columns = Replace(outline,  |,  ,, ALL)
  cffile ACTION=Append
FILE=#filename#
OUTPUT=#l_Columns#
cfset l_Columns = 
  /cfif
cfset outline = 
/cfloop
/cfif
cfoutput
script LANGUAGE = JavaScript type=text/javascript
  display('#rosterdata.recordcount#','#rosterdata.recordcount#');
ThisTime('#StartTime#', '#timeformat(now(),HH:MM:SS)#');
/script
/cfoutput
cfdirectory directory=#docroot##secure.councilid#\ 
filter=roster_#secure.uid#.csv name=dir
p align=center
a onclick=javascript:window.close(); 
href=cfoutput#urlname#/cfoutput target=_blankimg 
src=/code/images/excel.gif border=0/anbsp;span 
class=table_field(cfoutput#numberformat(dir.size)#/cfoutput bytes) 
Click icon for Excel csv file./span

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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Robert Munn
I'll second TinyMCE. It doesn't do *everything*, but it is by far the easiest 
to get going with. I just did a blog post on integrating it with Ray Camden's 
BlogCFC to show how easy it is to set up. Check my blog here:

www.funkymojo.com/blog/


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 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Troxel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Are there any other Rich Text Editors out there
 Besides FCKEditor, Ektron, and Activedit that will
 Work with CF5?

TinyMCE: http://tinymce.sf.net/

 If someone has some examples of CF5 usage in regards to
 Image uploading and browsing I would appreciate it.

TinyMCE doesn't ship with plugins for this for CF but you should be able
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SOT: File Uploaders for very large files.

2005-10-17 Thread Larry Lyons
Greetings,

For a project here at work the clients want to upload very large multi-megabyte 
tiff files to the server from a web browser. Unfortunately CFFile/HTTP is 
probably not up to this task. A while back there was some discussion about java 
based file uploaders. Does anyone have any recommendations or suggestions for 
java based solutions that would be able to handle files this large?

many thanks,

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Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?

2005-10-17 Thread Jordan Michaels
Yes, it will be available for download. Before that happens though, the
following needs to be completed:

- A few minor bug fixes
- A completed installation process
- Documentation needs to be written

Please remember that the calendar site hasn't yet been officially
released yet. Give us a couple weeks to finish it up, and we'll post
here to the list when it's ready.

Thank you all for your patience and input!

Warm regards,
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Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg wrote:

will it be available for download then? the links dun werk fer me

On 10/17/05, Paul Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

yep

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Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?




For some time now, Vivio Technologies has been debating whether or not
to put forth the effort to complete the development of a completely
free, (under a modified open-source MIT license) CFML calendar
application. The idea was to develop a calendar application that anyone
could do anything they want with, and help support the Cold Fusion
community as a whole. Companies who develop in CFML would have the
ability to -re-design, re-code, -re-brand, re-sell, or whatever else
they wanted to do with the calendar application. The calendar would be
able to run under BlueDragon FREE edition, and use open-source databases
like PostgreSQL and MySQL. That way, no user anywhere would need to pay
for anything more then the cost of hosting in order to deploy the
calendar.

Our question is simple: Would there be any interest in something like
this?

If there is significant interest, Vivio Technologies will make the
investment to complete the project and deliver the calendar. If there is
only a small amount of interest, then we'll quit wasting our time
debating over this project and move on to projects which are of more
value to us and/or the community.

Please take a moment to visit our current calendar site located at the
following URL:

http://calendar.viviotech.net/

Please understand that the calendar project isn't *quite* finished, but
if there is interest we'll be more then happy to put the finishing
touches (the spit and polish - if you will) on the calendar and make it
available, completely free of charge, to the community.

We welcome any comments you may have - good or bad. Thank you for
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Re: SOT: File Uploaders for very large files.

2005-10-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
When it gets to be ridiculously large files, I tend to make them use
email attachments to pass the file to my app, and use a little java
routine to pull the file out of the mailbox and save it to disk.

This has two benefits. It doesn't bog my cf server and it makes the
uploading user realize just how big the darn thing is.



On 10/17/05, Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,

 For a project here at work the clients want to upload very large 
 multi-megabyte tiff files to the server from a web browser. Unfortunately 
 CFFile/HTTP is probably not up to this task. A while back there was some 
 discussion about java based file uploaders. Does anyone have any 
 recommendations or suggestions for java based solutions that would be able to 
 handle files this large?

 many thanks,

 larry
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Re: SOT: File Uploaders for very large files.

2005-10-17 Thread Larry Lyons
When it gets to be ridiculously large files, I tend to make them use
email attachments to pass the file to my app, and use a little java
routine to pull the file out of the mailbox and save it to disk.

This has two benefits. It doesn't bog my cf server and it makes the
uploading user realize just how big the darn thing is.


Unfortunately that's a non-starter in this case. The file are associated with 
journal article submission forms, and consist of word docs (not so large) and 
very large radiographic tiffs. I had originally proposed something similar to 
what you've suggested but that was shot down.

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RE: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Terry Troxel
Thanks for the reply Matt. I am using fckeditor v2

I really would like some more info on the plugin you
Say someone wrote as that sounds like the way to go.

Or if you play around today and make your own as
It sounds like you are planning, I'd appreciate
That too.

Terry 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

One of the guys who is often on this forum wrote an
uploading/browsing plugin for FCK.

Which version are you confused about?  I did a modified
uploader for v1.6, which imho was the last stable version.
I did one for 2.0 that bypassed the editor's imposed file
system, but I see in 2.1 and the brand-new 2.1.1 they have
an entirely new CF developer who has written new CF code
that I haven't quite deciphered, myself.  I was planning on
playing with it some today, since 2.1.1 fixes a bug I
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Re: Are there any CFeclipse tutorials out there?

2005-10-17 Thread Victor Moore

 Thank you all.

  Eclipse and CFeclipse add on installation were successful.
 Now playing with Subversion.
Hopefully it will work OK.
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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Matt Robertson
On 10/17/05, Terry Troxel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the reply Matt. I am using fckeditor v2

The difference between v2 and v2.1 is significant.  The CF image stuff
is significantly rewritten.  I just haven't had the time to ensure I
have external control over my image paths.  I did it in 2.0 very
simply.  I could tell you how to do it if you want (by fwd'ing my test
file set off-list) but if I were you 2.0 is 2 versions back from
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Re: SOT: File Uploaders for very large files.

2005-10-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
I know you've looked at form submissions and cffile, so I am
brainstorming alternate methods.

Could you create a frame on your submission page pointing to an ftp
area on your site, and allow them to use the ftp handling built into
most browsers? Then they could drag-and-drop or copy-and-paste the
images into the window and let the os handle the move. Your app could
then catch them and associate them with the proper form submission (by
creating dynamic subfolder to go with each form submission)



On 10/17/05, Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When it gets to be ridiculously large files, I tend to make them use
 email attachments to pass the file to my app, and use a little java
 routine to pull the file out of the mailbox and save it to disk.
 
 This has two benefits. It doesn't bog my cf server and it makes the
 uploading user realize just how big the darn thing is.
 

 Unfortunately that's a non-starter in this case. The file are associated with 
 journal article submission forms, and consist of word docs (not so large) and 
 very large radiographic tiffs. I had originally proposed something similar to 
 what you've suggested but that was shot down.

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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
OK, to add to this thread, how about a cross platform (Mac, PC)
cross-browser (IE, Safari, Firefox, netscape) wysiwyg editor?

Doesn't need to be free, but does need to be reasonable (less than my
salary for six months).

I've looked back at the old threads on this topic, but things have
changed since then.

(I am moving away from the SOEditor, which is perfect but pc/ie only
and I now need a mac-also compatible solution)

Preferably it should be able to turn off most features on a per page
basis (we allow different levels of formatting based on where the
content is used.


On 10/17/05, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/17/05, Terry Troxel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for the reply Matt. I am using fckeditor v2

 The difference between v2 and v2.1 is significant.  The CF image stuff
 is significantly rewritten.  I just haven't had the time to ensure I
 have external control over my image paths.  I did it in 2.0 very
 simply.  I could tell you how to do it if you want (by fwd'ing my test
 file set off-list) but if I were you 2.0 is 2 versions back from
 current and not one I would use in production.

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RE: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Joshua Cyr
Interakt's KTML and FCKEditor come to mind for both of those. 

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

OK, to add to this thread, how about a cross platform (Mac, PC)
cross-browser (IE, Safari, Firefox, netscape) wysiwyg editor?

Doesn't need to be free, but does need to be reasonable (less than my salary
for six months).

I've looked back at the old threads on this topic, but things have changed
since then.

(I am moving away from the SOEditor, which is perfect but pc/ie only and I
now need a mac-also compatible solution)

Preferably it should be able to turn off most features on a per page basis
(we allow different levels of formatting based on where the content is used.


On 10/17/05, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/17/05, Terry Troxel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for the reply Matt. I am using fckeditor v2

 The difference between v2 and v2.1 is significant.  The CF image stuff 
 is significantly rewritten.  I just haven't had the time to ensure I 
 have external control over my image paths.  I did it in 2.0 very 
 simply.  I could tell you how to do it if you want (by fwd'ing my test 
 file set off-list) but if I were you 2.0 is 2 versions back from 
 current and not one I would use in production.

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flash form expired... again... can anyone help confirm this is a bug

2005-10-17 Thread Anthony Prato
I think I understand the timeout parameter of cfform. It works as
expected in situations like the documentation says, when clicking the
back button. The problem I see as a bug is this:
Form A- a flash form used to drill down.
Form B- a flash form to edit details.

Case 1
Select Category on Form A
Submit
Form B loads
Click Back button
expired as expected (since no timeout is set)

Case 2
Select Category on Form A
Submit
Form B loads
Click Cancel button (redirects to Form A with getURL)
Form A expired
*this should have reloaded Form A just like clicking an html link.

Case 3
submit Form A
Form B checks for required data, since it's not found, cflocation to Form A
Form A expired
*this should have reloaded Form A just like clicking an html link.

whats even worse is:
Select Category on Form A
Submit
Form B loads
Get back to Form A without it expiring
select the same category as before
Submit
Form B expired!

I'm frustrated... has anyone found any workarounds for this?
is there any way to catch the expired exception and reload the form?

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RE: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Terry Troxel
Matt, I just dled 2.1.1 and it is running on my laptop.

I am calling it from c:\inetpub\wwwroot\edit.cfm
The 2.1.1 zip is extracted to
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\fckeditor2.1\

With the following:

cfset doitnow=HELLO!
cfmodule
 template=/fckeditor2.1/fckeditor.cfm
 basePath=/fckeditor2.1/
 instanceName=Project_description
 value='#doitnow#'
 width=600
 height=450


And when I go to the Image Icon and click on Browse I get
the following: XML request error: internal server error
(500)

Terry
 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

On 10/17/05, Terry Troxel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the reply Matt. I am using fckeditor v2

The difference between v2 and v2.1 is significant.  The CF
image stuff is significantly rewritten.  I just haven't had
the time to ensure I have external control over my image
paths.  I did it in 2.0 very simply.  I could tell you how
to do it if you want (by fwd'ing my test file set off-list)
but if I were you 2.0 is 2 versions back from current and
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Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS)
Is there any way to make a page completely process a cfinclude before
continuing?  I have data that is sometimes updating in the cfinclude and
that data is displayed.  
The cfinclude page runs and the database is updated, but not quick enough to
display the new data on the page that is calling the cfinclude.

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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread Andy Matthews
Could you use js to call the include?

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From: CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS)
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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:34 PM
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Subject: Cfinclude processing


Is there any way to make a page completely process a cfinclude before
continuing?  I have data that is sometimes updating in the cfinclude and
that data is displayed.
The cfinclude page runs and the database is updated, but not quick enough to
display the new data on the page that is calling the cfinclude.

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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
I guess I'm confused...what do you mean by '..not quick enough to
display the new data'.  Do you need to use cfflush to make sure the data
is output as it happens?

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 From: CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS) 
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 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:34 PM
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 Subject: Cfinclude processing
 
 Is there any way to make a page completely process a cfinclude before
 continuing?  I have data that is sometimes updating in the 
 cfinclude and
 that data is displayed.  
 The cfinclude page runs and the database is updated, but not 
 quick enough to
 display the new data on the page that is calling the cfinclude.
 
 Any suggestions?


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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS)
The main page looks at the database before the code that updates the
database in the cfinclude has had a chance to finish 

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I guess I'm confused...what do you mean by '..not quick enough to display
the new data'.  Do you need to use cfflush to make sure the data is output
as it happens?

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 Is there any way to make a page completely process a cfinclude before 
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Re: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread Larry Lyons
The main page looks at the database before the code that updates the
database in the cfinclude has had a chance to finish 

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cfinclude processing

I guess I'm confused...what do you mean by '..not quick enough to display
the new data'.  Do you need to use cfflush to make sure the data is output
as it happens?


I'm a bit confused here myself. All that a CFInclude does is inserts the 
included page at that point. If you need to look at the changed data, you may 
want to do some page restructuring, or use a cflocation to a display page 
immediately after the data has been inserted. 

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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Jerry Johnson
I hadn't seen the KTML edit before, and am quite impressed.

Looks like I have a winner. (No Safari, but everything else).

Thanks a bunch!

On 10/17/05, Joshua Cyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interakt's KTML and FCKEditor come to mind for both of those.

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Re: Any other Rich Text Editors?

2005-10-17 Thread Matt Robertson
I just figured it out, although I have not seen the 500 error.  I was
getting permission errors when I entered the file browser.

I had been putting in my little customizations (toolbars,
tableToggleBorders plugin, other stuff) and tackling the CF connector
last.  I decided to do the connector first instead and just install it
as they say to:  off the web root into a folder called /FCKEditor, so
that fckeditor.cfm is located at

http://127.0.0.1:8500/fckeditor/fckeditor.cfm

Then I created http://127.0.0.1:8500/test_fck.cfm that says

CFAPPLICATION NAME=test_FCK_1235
SESSIONMANAGEMENT=Yes
clientmanagement=Yes
applicationtimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,0,30,0)#
SESSIONTIMEOUT=#CreateTimeSpan(0,0,30,0)#
cfparam name=form.FirstEditor default=This is the first window
type=string
htmlheadtitleSingle Editor Test/title
/headbody
cfform
action=#cgi.script_name#
method=POST
cfmodule
template=fckeditor/fckeditor.cfm
instanceName=FirstEditor
toolbarSet=Default
width=650
height=400
value=#form.FirstEditor#
p
input
type=Submit
value=Submit
/cfform
/body/html

Everything works perfectly.  A folder called /userfiles
(http://127.0.0.1:8500.userfiles) is demanded as the upload root, but
that should be easy to defeat.  The new CF guy on the project made
that foldername part of the config file, which hopefully is a global
setting.  I found by replacing the cfparam for url.type in
connector.cfm with cfset url.type=session.thisfolder (where the
session var is supplied externally from my CMS) then I am good to go
in terms of defeating FCK's imposed folder structure..

Try a service restart if you are getting 500's.

Anyway this worked for me to get the basic editor up.  Now that I have
the stupid thing working I bet I put it pretty much anywhere.  A great
testimonial to why you document code, preferably line by line.


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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS)
Ah..I just went ahead and created another query in the cfinclude page to
pull the data out and will just use that query to populate instead.  It
works and that's all that matters :)  thanks! 

-Original Message-
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cfinclude processing

The main page looks at the database before the code that updates the 
database in the cfinclude has had a chance to finish

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cfinclude processing

I guess I'm confused...what do you mean by '..not quick enough to 
display the new data'.  Do you need to use cfflush to make sure the 
data is output as it happens?


I'm a bit confused here myself. All that a CFInclude does is inserts the
included page at that point. If you need to look at the changed data, you
may want to do some page restructuring, or use a cflocation to a display
page immediately after the data has been inserted. 

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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread Munson, Jacob
I'm glad you got it to work, but FYI, all contents of a cfinclude will
process before the rest of the original file runs.  To test this, I
created an include file that just loops for 30 seconds.  I wrote the
time to the screen before, inside, and after the include call and here
are the results:

before calling include: 2:09:48 PM
inside at start of include: 2:09:48 PM
inside at end of include: 2:10:15 PM
after calling include: 2:10:15 PM
Some text after the include file

So the code that wrote the 'after calling' and the 'some text after...'
lines didn't fire until after the include had finished.

 -Original Message-
 From: CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:05 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cfinclude processing
 
 Ah..I just went ahead and created another query in the 
 cfinclude page to
 pull the data out and will just use that query to populate 
 instead.  It
 works and that's all that matters :)  thanks! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Cfinclude processing
 
 The main page looks at the database before the code that updates the 
 database in the cfinclude has had a chance to finish
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cfinclude processing
 
 I guess I'm confused...what do you mean by '..not quick enough to 
 display the new data'.  Do you need to use cfflush to make sure the 
 data is output as it happens?
 
 
 I'm a bit confused here myself. All that a CFInclude does is 
 inserts the
 included page at that point. If you need to look at the 
 changed data, you
 may want to do some page restructuring, or use a cflocation 
 to a display
 page immediately after the data has been inserted. 
 
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Submit Form in Scrolling Box

2005-10-17 Thread Lee
I have a simple form with a scrolling list box as the only 
data field. Is there a way I can invoke the submit button 
if the user double clicks on an item in the scrolling 
list? I'm guessing javascript but open to ideas.

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RE: Submit Form in Scrolling Box

2005-10-17 Thread Andy Matthews
There's an onDoubleClick handler built into js.

http://tinyurl.com/bhwu4

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I have a simple form with a scrolling list box as the only
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SOT: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Ray Champagne
Is there a way to (behind the scenes) copy text to the user's clipboard 
without them having to select and Ctrl-C it?  I know that the plug-in 
for TinyURL does this, but I'm not sure how, or if I'm comparing A's to 
O's or whatever.

If there isn't a way, then maybe I could get some brainstorming help? 
My client has a member-based list that she can query the DB and pull 1 
or 500 emails onto her screen as a report.  She wants to be able to 
select (using checkboxes) certain email addresses, then click an EMAIL 
button and have those addresses populate her to: field in Eudora. 
This list of emails has the potential to be pretty large, so just 
passing a comma-delimited list into a mailto: doesn't work.  It will 
only accept up to 255 characters, then throws a JS error.

I've brought up a web-based mail system for her, even whipped up a quick 
one for her to use, but she's tied to Eudora.  She uses it as an 
organizational tool, and doesn't want to change.  I don't blame her, but 
I just can't find a way to have this work correctly.  I'm one step away 
from just outputting a textarea with comma-delimited email addresses, 
making it selected and having her do a Crtl-C and paste into Eudora, but 
that just doesn't seem like a very professional solution.

So - after that long tirade, any suggestions?
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Re: Submit Form in Scrolling Box

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Ferguson
Yeah, just use the ondblclick=this.submit(); or something like that.

Lee wrote:

I have a simple form with a scrolling list box as the only 
data field. Is there a way I can invoke the submit button 
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Re: SOT: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Ferguson
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Web_Languages/JavaScript/Q_20233392.html

Ray Champagne wrote:

Is there a way to (behind the scenes) copy text to the user's clipboard 
without them having to select and Ctrl-C it?  I know that the plug-in 
for TinyURL does this, but I'm not sure how, or if I'm comparing A's to 
O's or whatever.

If there isn't a way, then maybe I could get some brainstorming help? 
My client has a member-based list that she can query the DB and pull 1 
or 500 emails onto her screen as a report.  She wants to be able to 
select (using checkboxes) certain email addresses, then click an EMAIL 
button and have those addresses populate her to: field in Eudora. 
This list of emails has the potential to be pretty large, so just 
passing a comma-delimited list into a mailto: doesn't work.  It will 
only accept up to 255 characters, then throws a JS error.

I've brought up a web-based mail system for her, even whipped up a quick 
one for her to use, but she's tied to Eudora.  She uses it as an 
organizational tool, and doesn't want to change.  I don't blame her, but 
I just can't find a way to have this work correctly.  I'm one step away 
from just outputting a textarea with comma-delimited email addresses, 
making it selected and having her do a Crtl-C and paste into Eudora, but 
that just doesn't seem like a very professional solution.

So - after that long tirade, any suggestions?
  



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Retrieving Zip File from Remote CFMX Server

2005-10-17 Thread Graham Pearson
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I am trying to retrieve a zip file from a remote CFMX server to my
local CFMX Server and wanting this process to be done without any user
interaction. What I have done this far is use cfhttp to get the file
and when I cfdump the cfhttp scope within my FileContent I have object
of java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream with various Methods.

How do I use these methods to save this file to the local hard drive.
After I save it, I am wanting to unzip this file and overwrite any
files as the zip file has the latest versions of my coldfusion templates.

Any Assistance Greatly Appriciated.

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Re: SOT: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Ray Champagne
Thanks, Ferg.

I had been googling a bunch of terms, but none that had any relevant 
hits.  As soon as I posted this, I tried another one, and found a bunch 
of things.  Of course, they were all just for IE, but I'm sure if I kept 
going, I'd find a cross-browser solution.

Thanks, this seems to be right up my alley...not very elegant, but it works!

Ray

Ken Ferguson wrote:
 http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Web_Languages/JavaScript/Q_20233392.html
 
 Ray Champagne wrote:
 
 
Is there a way to (behind the scenes) copy text to the user's clipboard 
without them having to select and Ctrl-C it?  I know that the plug-in 
for TinyURL does this, but I'm not sure how, or if I'm comparing A's to 
O's or whatever.

If there isn't a way, then maybe I could get some brainstorming help? 
My client has a member-based list that she can query the DB and pull 1 
or 500 emails onto her screen as a report.  She wants to be able to 
select (using checkboxes) certain email addresses, then click an EMAIL 
button and have those addresses populate her to: field in Eudora. 
This list of emails has the potential to be pretty large, so just 
passing a comma-delimited list into a mailto: doesn't work.  It will 
only accept up to 255 characters, then throws a JS error.

I've brought up a web-based mail system for her, even whipped up a quick 
one for her to use, but she's tied to Eudora.  She uses it as an 
organizational tool, and doesn't want to change.  I don't blame her, but 
I just can't find a way to have this work correctly.  I'm one step away 
 
from just outputting a textarea with comma-delimited email addresses, 
 
making it selected and having her do a Crtl-C and paste into Eudora, but 
that just doesn't seem like a very professional solution.

So - after that long tirade, any suggestions?
 

 
 
 
 

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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread Justin D. Scott
ColdFusion waits until all of the included code has run before it moves on.
It sounds like your database isn't updating the tables fast enough before
you run the query to re-pull that data for display (why you would need to
re-query the database right after updating it is beyond me to begin with,
but that's what it sounds like you're doing).

-Justin Scott


 -Original Message-
 From: CHANCE, JENNIFER M. (JSC-BJ) (BAS) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 3:34 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cfinclude processing
 
 Is there any way to make a page completely process a cfinclude before
 continuing?  I have data that is sometimes updating in the 
 cfinclude and
 that data is displayed.  
 The cfinclude page runs and the database is updated, but not 
 quick enough to
 display the new data on the page that is calling the cfinclude.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 
 

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RE: Cfinclude processing

2005-10-17 Thread Justin D. Scott
 Ah..I just went ahead and created another query in the 
 cfinclude page to
 pull the data out and will just use that query to populate 
 instead.  It
 works and that's all that matters :)  thanks! 

So you were pulling data out, then running an update query, and expecting
that update query to change your local query object variable?  If you update
the database, you also have to update your query object either manually, or
by running another query (as you've done here).  This is normal...

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Re: Retrieving Zip File from Remote CFMX Server

2005-10-17 Thread Alan Rother
First off you have to make sure your are making a correct cfhttp call to get
an object.
 cfhttp method=GET url=MyFullyQualifiedUrlHere getasbinary=yes
path=MyAbsolutePathToWhereIwantToStoreThisFile
file=MyFileNameIAmGettingFromTheCFHHTP/cfhttp
 This will actually bring the file from the remote server to your server.
 next you will need to either use a command line accessible zip extract
utility or a CFX tag like cfx_zip to extract the files.
 If you are running MX or MX7 you can use the JAVA ZIP util found on
CFLIB.org
 http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=997
 The only problem I've had with the java util is that it has a recursize
problem, in that it only wants to work on a single folder. But I believe
that is only on creating ZIP files.
 HTH
 =]

 On 10/17/05, Graham Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 I am trying to retrieve a zip file from a remote CFMX server to my
 local CFMX Server and wanting this process to be done without any user
 interaction. What I have done this far is use cfhttp to get the file
 and when I cfdump the cfhttp scope within my FileContent I have object
 of java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream with various Methods.

 How do I use these methods to save this file to the local hard drive.
 After I save it, I am wanting to unzip this file and overwrite any
 files as the zip file has the latest versions of my coldfusion templates.

 Any Assistance Greatly Appriciated.

 - --
 Graham Pearson, System Administrator / Application Developer
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Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Cedric Villat
I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you have 
different companies, so I want to know what you use.

The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per month). 
Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying a monthly 
service fee + % of each transaction?

PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in the 
past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC processing 
companies, so please speak up.

Thanks,
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Re: SOT: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
Try this:
window.clipboardData.setData (My Text, txt);

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Re: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Jordan Michaels
Cedric Villat wrote:

I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you have 
different companies, so I want to know what you use.

The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per month). 
Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying a monthly 
service fee + % of each transaction?

PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in the 
past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC processing 
companies, so please speak up.

Thanks,
Cedric
  

We will be switching providers to Cirfin (pronounced Surfin) some time
this month. They're wonderful. They actually aim to help your business
grow instead of gloating about We have what you need and we're the only
ones who understand it so we're going make you pay through the nose to
get it.

We've dealt with some pretty unsavory characters when dealing with
credit card processors - and learned a few expensive lessons while we
were at it. These guys are good and have a genuine desire to help.

http://www.cirfin.com/

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Re: SOT: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
 window.clipboardData.setData (My Text, txt);

Whoouups, scuse me the contrary: window.clipboardData.setData (text, 
My text to put into clipboard);

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Re: SOT: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Ray Champagne
Yep, that's pretty much what I've used.  This won't work for Netscape, 
though, that doc that Ferg pointed out has the cross-browser solution.

Just FYI

Thanks,

Ray

Claude Schneegans wrote:
  window.clipboardData.setData (My Text, txt);
 
 Whoouups, scuse me the contrary: window.clipboardData.setData (text, 
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Dreamweaver regular expressions

2005-10-17 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Is there a lower case switch in dreamweaver's find and replace regular
expressions? I need to convert all my results to lowercase.

 
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RE: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Dawson, Michael
We use Verisign Pay Flow Pro.  I'm not sure how much it costs, per month
or transaction, but it can't be too much or we wouldn't use it.

It was setup, in Active Server Pages, by a previous web developer that
is no longer here.  We are getting ready to rebuild this part of our web
site and the processing will be done with ColdFusion.

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Credit Card processing

I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you
have different companies, so I want to know what you use.

The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per
month). Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying
a monthly service fee + % of each transaction?

PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in
the past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC
processing companies, so please speak up.

Thanks,
Cedric

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RE: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Same here with verisign and pay flow pro (CF) but I believe the last numbers
I saw were something in the range of 700-800 a year
 
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-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Credit Card processing

We use Verisign Pay Flow Pro.  I'm not sure how much it costs, per month
or transaction, but it can't be too much or we wouldn't use it.

It was setup, in Active Server Pages, by a previous web developer that
is no longer here.  We are getting ready to rebuild this part of our web
site and the processing will be done with ColdFusion.

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Credit Card processing

I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you
have different companies, so I want to know what you use.

The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per
month). Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying
a monthly service fee + % of each transaction?

PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in
the past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC
processing companies, so please speak up.

Thanks,
Cedric



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Re: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Cedric Villat
Wow, that is a bit much. Is there no one that does both the CC processing and 
has a merchant account? Or is 2 separate companies required for this sort of 
thing?

Cedric

Same here with verisign and pay flow pro (CF) but I believe the last numbers
I saw were something in the range of 700-800 a year
 
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-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Credit Card processing

We use Verisign Pay Flow Pro.  I'm not sure how much it costs, per month
or transaction, but it can't be too much or we wouldn't use it.

It was setup, in Active Server Pages, by a previous web developer that
is no longer here.  We are getting ready to rebuild this part of our web
site and the processing will be done with ColdFusion.

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Credit Card processing

I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you
have different companies, so I want to know what you use.

The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per
month). Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying
a monthly service fee + % of each transaction?

PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in
the past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC
processing companies, so please speak up.

Thanks,
Cedric

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Re: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread John C. Bland II
Checkout Authorize.net http://Authorize.net. They offer a MUCH cheaper
gateway and merchant account. As a side note, you will save money on your
merchant account/gateway by becoming a reseller.

There is also:
http://www.usaepay.com/
http://www.linkpoint.com/
etc...

One thing I recently found out is you could actually get a merchant account
via a credit card company (i know amex does it and am sure visa/mc does).
This eliminates the middle man and all you need is a gateway from there.

Hope that helps...

On 10/17/05, Cedric Villat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, that is a bit much. Is there no one that does both the CC processing
 and has a merchant account? Or is 2 separate companies required for this
 sort of thing?

 Cedric

 Same here with verisign and pay flow pro (CF) but I believe the last
 numbers
 I saw were something in the range of 700-800 a year
 
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 Bobby Hartsfield
 http://acoderslife.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Credit Card processing
 
 We use Verisign Pay Flow Pro. I'm not sure how much it costs, per month
 or transaction, but it can't be too much or we wouldn't use it.
 
 It was setup, in Active Server Pages, by a previous web developer that
 is no longer here. We are getting ready to rebuild this part of our web
 site and the processing will be done with ColdFusion.
 
 M!ke
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Credit Card processing
 
 I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you
 have different companies, so I want to know what you use.
 
 The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per
 month). Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying
 a monthly service fee + % of each transaction?
 
 PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in
 the past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC
 processing companies, so please speak up.
 
 Thanks,
 Cedric

 

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RE: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
It's my understanding that Verisign is able to do both... and I'm sure
they'd love to do both for you :)

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-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 7:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Credit Card processing

Wow, that is a bit much. Is there no one that does both the CC processing
and has a merchant account? Or is 2 separate companies required for this
sort of thing?

Cedric

Same here with verisign and pay flow pro (CF) but I believe the last
numbers
I saw were something in the range of 700-800 a year
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com



-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Credit Card processing

We use Verisign Pay Flow Pro.  I'm not sure how much it costs, per month
or transaction, but it can't be too much or we wouldn't use it.

It was setup, in Active Server Pages, by a previous web developer that
is no longer here.  We are getting ready to rebuild this part of our web
site and the processing will be done with ColdFusion.

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Credit Card processing

I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of you
have different companies, so I want to know what you use.

The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions per
month). Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, vs. paying
a monthly service fee + % of each transaction?

PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by them in
the past. I know there are some people on this list that work for CC
processing companies, so please speak up.

Thanks,
Cedric



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try this again... dreamweaver to lowercase regex

2005-10-17 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Is there a lowercase switch for dreamweavers regular expression
find/replace? I need to convert all results to lowercase.


 
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Re: Are there any CFeclipse tutorials out there?

2005-10-17 Thread Andrew Grosset
If you're wondering what CFEclipse is this is a useful resource:

http://www.dopefly.com/pages/cfeclipse.cfm

(and even if you know what CFEclipse is I'm sure you'll find it useful :) )

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RE: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
But what I hate is companies that have standard charges for their
services, but force you to contact them to find out what they are.

Unless I missed something, Cirfin tells you just about everything
about what they do, except what it'll cost you.

At least PayPal tells you what it'll cost you up front...

What does this company charge for it's services?

Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:33 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Credit Card processing
 
 
 Cedric Villat wrote:
 
 I'm looking for a credit card processing company. I know many of 
 you have different companies, so I want to know what you use.
 
 The volume of sales for the site is fairly low (2-3 transactions 
 per month). Anyone out there just charge a % of each transaction, 
 vs. paying a monthly service fee + % of each transaction?
 
 PayPal is not an option at this point, as I have been burned by 
 them in the past. I know there are some people on this list that 
 work for CC processing companies, so please speak up.
 
 Thanks,
 Cedric
   
 
 We will be switching providers to Cirfin (pronounced Surfin) some time
 this month. They're wonderful. They actually aim to help your business
 grow instead of gloating about We have what you need and we're the only
 ones who understand it so we're going make you pay through the nose to
 get it.
 
 We've dealt with some pretty unsavory characters when dealing with
 credit card processors - and learned a few expensive lessons while we
 were at it. These guys are good and have a genuine desire to help.
 
 http://www.cirfin.com/
 
 -- 
 Warm regards,
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 Vivio Technologies
 http://www.viviotech.net/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 

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Re: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
Using authorize.net here. Works great, great documentation, great everything so 
far. 

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RE: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
Couldn't find any costs on Authorize.net's site either..

How much do they charge, Will?

Rick


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 Subject: Re: Credit Card processing
 
 
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 everything so far. 
 
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RE: JS copy function?

2005-10-17 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 4:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SOT: JS copy function?
 
 Is there a way to (behind the scenes) copy text to the user's clipboard
 without them having to select and Ctrl-C it?  I know that the plug-in
 for TinyURL does this, but I'm not sure how, or if I'm comparing A's to
 O's or whatever.

Here's a little script I throw at the bottom of all my pages at
DepressedPress.com.  It provides links to copy the page URL, Title or link
to the clipboard (I use it when doing updates and such).

The code will only work on IE (thus the check for document.all before
presenting it).  Shorthand for what you need is:

window.clipboardData.setData(Text, Whudeva);

I believe that this can also be specifically prevented by a security setting
at well.

script language=javascript1.3 type=text/javascript
function CopyToClip_URL() {
window.clipboardData.setData(Text,
http://www.depressedpress.com/index.cfm;);
};
function CopyToClip_Title() {
window.clipboardData.setData(Text, Welcome to the New
Depressed Press);
};
function CopyToClip_Link() {
window.clipboardData.setData(Text, a
href=\'http://www.depressedpress.com/index.cfm\'Welcome to the New
Depressed Press/a);
};
if ( document.all ) {
document.write(div
class=\Footer_Disclaimer\Copy the page a href=\JavaScript: var i =
CopyToClip_URL();\URL/a or a href=\JavaScript: var i =
CopyToClip_Title();\Title/a or a href=\JavaScript: var i =
CopyToClip_Link();\Link/a to the clipboard/div);
};
/script


Hope it helps.

Jim Davis



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RE: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Coldfusion Developer
Doing a google on various CC processing companies, I have found
that the vast majority of them do not disclose their fees.

Some of them charge $10-15 for Statement Fees, 
Sometimes $15-20 for monthly fee.

As well as per transaction fees of some of the following:

Per Transaction:  2.2 - 3.9%
..25 cents per transaction validation
..05 for AVS validation

And even some add .07 cents for their own gateway fee per transaction
Fee.

So you have to be careful and calculate all the monthly costs
To include the percentage and per transaction fees.

Some monthly costs could run $30-$50 per monthly before you even
process the first online payment.


-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Credit Card processing

Couldn't find any costs on Authorize.net's site either..

How much do they charge, Will?

Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Credit Card processing
 
 
 Using authorize.net here. Works great, great documentation, great 
 everything so far. 
 
 Will 
 
 



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Re: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
Couldn't find any costs on Authorize.net's site either..

How much do they charge, Will?



I rummaged around for the info and I realized the client has it all. I'll check 
with her and post back. 

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Re: Credit Card processing

2005-10-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
Ok, just talked to client and she says she's paying them about $22/month flat 
fee, then 1.9-2.25% trans. fees. 

Dunno if that's exactly right but that's all i know. 

Will

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