Re: date problem

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
Hi Calude, thanks for the relies, however the data is being transferred from ms 
excel and sometimes comes in the EU format and sometimes in the US format. i 
suppose the only way we can do this is to force the users to put it into eu 
format and run it through your tag to see if it is a valid date format for eu

thanks

richard 

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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
Hi Qasim

Just wondering if you or anyone else knows whether using this facility will 
allow us to get the formatted values out of excel instead of the values before 
they are formated for display in excel as this guys tag cfx_excel2query has 
cost us alot of work and time that has now been lost because it is got a 
fundamentally floor and he doesn't respond to any emails. just wondering this 
so that we don't really waste any more time

thanks very much for your help

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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
hi marco

have you or anyone else used this, this does look very interesting?

thanks 

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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
Hi Marco,

also do you know how do i download the functions as i cant find anything on the 
page

thanks

 Ben Nadel created a very nice cfc called POIUtility.cfc. This 
 ColdFusion
 component works with POI to read/write excel spreadsheets. Please look 
 this
 link:
 
 http://www.bennadel.
com/blog/ 
474-ColdFusion-Component-Wrapper-For-POI-To-Read-And-Write-Excel-Files.
 htm
 
 Cheers
 Marco Antonio
 
 On Jan 28, 2008 6:56 AM, Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  we purchased a cfx called excel2query as we are developing an 
 import
  facility that allows users to import data out of an excel document 
 into the
  mysql database.
 
  we have to do it into a query as then we run various verifications 
 on the
  data.
 
  however we have noticed that it gets the data that ms excel stores 
 and not
  what it displays.
 
  for example, in excel someone may put integer values 1,2,3 etc... in 
 a
  column then they use the format cell to display it how they want, e.
 g.
  they may format these integers to a number with 1 decimal point. we 
 need to
  get these formatted values and not just what they entered first.
 
  does anyone know of anyway we can get ms excel to store the values 
 it has
  formated or any other tag that converts ms excel data to a query and 
 gets
  the actual displays value after formatting?
 
  thanks very much for your help
 
  richard
 
  


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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
hi marco

have you or anyone else used this, this does look very interesting?

thanks

do you also know how we download it, thanks 

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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Richard,

this is the link to download that scripts:

http://bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:474.downloadcodezip

Cheers
Marco Antonio

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 have you or anyone else used this, this does look very interesting?
 
 thanks

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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Will Swain
geoff wrote:

 It's unnecessary to voice your obviously negative opinion of a product
without any sort of request to do so.  If you   feel the need to vent, why
not vent on the farcry-dev forum where you might let the developers of that
product knowwhat you found so objectionable -- we'd love to fix it.

Sorry to butt in here, but didn't the OP ask for opinions and feedback on CF
CMS's? In which case if someone has an opinion about a product, positive or
negative, they are entitled to air it. 

I have no opinion one way or the other on FarCry, but I just thought that
needed saying.
 


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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Stewart
While my original request was for pros and cons of CommonSpot. Pros and Cons
of other products are welcomed. 

For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
support issues).



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From: Geoff Bowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

Rob,

On 31/01/2008, RobG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It looks like it's pretty easy to develop for... it's a million times
 better than FarCry (don't EVEN get me started on that thing, and yeah I
 know a lot of people like it).

My experience of Commonspot compared to other products has not been as
delightful as yours.  And there are plenty of people who have a
diametrically opposed view to yours on the merits of FarCry as a
solution.

It's unnecessary to voice your obviously negative opinion of a product
without any sort of request to do so.  If you feel the need to vent,
why not vent on the farcry-dev forum where you might let the
developers of that product know what you found so objectionable --
we'd love to fix it.

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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
thanks marco, will look at it now

richard

Richard,

this is the link to download that scripts:

http://bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:474.downloadcodezip

Cheers
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Re: Why does CFMail timeout?

2008-01-31 Thread Cameron Childress
I could think of a few reasons.  1) Hard drive full 2) Anti-virus 
insisting on intercepting and scanning spool files as they are written 
3) trying to spool too many messages at once or them being too big 4) 
some other drive problem.

-Cameron

Ben Doom wrote:
 OK, I seem to be missing something here.

 Why would CFMail ever timeout?  I'm using spooling, so shouldn't it just 
 write a file to the spool directory and let the scheduled delivery handle 
 anything that might timeout?  

 What am I missing?

 --Ben Doom 
   

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Why does CFMail timeout?

2008-01-31 Thread Ben Doom
OK, I seem to be missing something here.

Why would CFMail ever timeout?  I'm using spooling, so shouldn't it just write 
a file to the spool directory and let the scheduled delivery handle anything 
that might timeout?  

What am I missing?

--Ben Doom 

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RE: Why does CFMail timeout?

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Harrison
 2) Anti-virus insisting on intercepting and scanning spool files as they
are written 

I had an issue with McAffee anti-spam causing a problem. It was intercepting
outbound mail it found questionable and just sat until I force ended the
program or time-out. That took hours to find.




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Austin  Williams
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Subject: Re: Why does CFMail timeout?

I could think of a few reasons.  1) Hard drive full 2) Anti-virus 
insisting on intercepting and scanning spool files as they are written 
3) trying to spool too many messages at once or them being too big 4) 
some other drive problem.

-Cameron

Ben Doom wrote:
 OK, I seem to be missing something here.

 Why would CFMail ever timeout?  I'm using spooling, so shouldn't it just
write a file to the spool directory and let the scheduled delivery handle
anything that might timeout?  

 What am I missing?

 --Ben Doom 
   



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JasperReports

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chiverton
Has anyone done a nice CF interface to Jasper other than Ricks work from a few 
years back at 
http://www.rickroot.com/blog/1/2004/05/Using-JasperReports-with-Coldfusion-MX-61.cfm
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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
hi marco,

thanks for this, it sounds good. just wondering if you are also using bens work 
or whether you have decided to use jexcel without his work and why, if you dont 
mind!!! just need to understand what you think seeing as you know both sides :) 
thanks

a snip bit of code would be really useful if you could, thanks again for the 
help marco

richard

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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Richard

I'm using jExcel with CF. Running an example with column formatted works
fine. Please look this text from an Excel spreadsheet:

   MATRIC NAME LOT VALUE  8545558 JUNIOR VARGAS RIO LUZ 1.522,25
(Brazilian values have a comma to hundred and point to thousand, ok?)

This is the result after invoke jExcel(from CF):
8545558 | JUNIOR VARGAS | RIO LUZ | 1.522,25

In resume: jExcel maintains the same format.

If you need more help I can send my simple code integrating CF with jExcel.

Cheers
Marco Antonio

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 thanks marco, will look at it now

 richard

 Richard,
 
 this is the link to download that scripts:
 
 http://bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:474.downloadcodezip
 
 Cheers
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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Richard,

my jExcel integration with CF haves 1 year! I tried to send my code for you(
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) but mail returns an error. Do you have another mail
account?

Cheers
Marco Antonio

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 hi marco,

 thanks for this, it sounds good. just wondering if you are also using bens
 work or whether you have decided to use jexcel without his work and why, if
 you dont mind!!! just need to understand what you think seeing as you know
 both sides :) thanks

 a snip bit of code would be really useful if you could, thanks again for
 the help marco

 richard

 Marco Antonio
 
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JS and regExp does not seem to get along, should we whip them?

2008-01-31 Thread Don L
Summary:
Actually it's more than one question, but let me start with this,
a page has the following javascript code for inserting a link and in its 
display section, it used RegExp to show all/any cap {WORD} in navy color.

Status:
a) Without the js, the regExp works fine.
b) With the js, a long URL insertion would mess up the link, specifically,
the a  and /a would be chopped off, rendering it useless. 

Comments/lesser question:
a) the javascript would only work for IE not FF, was informed that in FF no 
such thing as createRange().  So, what better option out there for this need?
b)

source code in question
---
function insert_link(e) {
  var str = document.selection.createRange().text;
  document.getElementById(e).focus();
  var my_link = prompt(Enter URL:,http://;);
  if (my_link != null) {
var sel = document.selection.createRange();
sel.text = a href=\ + my_link + \ target=_new + str + /a;
  }
  return;
  }


cfset longSTR = The good news was a strong holiday shopping season that was 
more robust than in years past as hearty demand for BOOKS, electronics and 
consumer goods pushed revenue up...

!-- have tried another technique, did not improve performance, so, let it go, 
now
fogot, and may be that one would work with the above js? --

cfloop index=i list=#longSTR# delimiters= 
  cfset u = REFind(([A-Z]+[-.]?)+[A-Z]+,#i#,TRUE) 
  cfif u gt 0
 bfont color=navy#i#/font/b  
  cfelse
 #i#
  /cfif
/cfloop

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Currency Exchange rates - XML format

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Friedman
Does anyone know where I can pull a feed of the currency exchange rates.
 
I have a project that we are processing everything in USD but we need to
have a currency converter that will provide an estimate of the exchange
rate.
So what I was thinking was to pull in the currency rates nightly and provide
a conversion table as a estimated charge.
 
I know that CC companies and banks will charge additional fees but I need to
provide an estimate.
 
So I am trying to find a service or location that I can pull the data from
(free if possible)
 
Thanks
 
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Re: Currency Exchange rates - XML format

2008-01-31 Thread Alan Rother
EX.com is what we use. It works really well. The only catch is you can
only hit the webservice 8 times a week. So, basically 1 time a day and
1 goof up a week.

There may be a higher level of service that lets you access the data
more often, but I do not believe they update the data more than that.
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Re: Excel to Query

2008-01-31 Thread Richard White
Richard,
hi marco, yes sorry i changed my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

excuse me, but what do you mean you have jexcel integration for one year. do 
you mean that you have been using the integration for 1 year so are used to 
that and have not used ben's component?

thanks very much 

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Re: Currency Exchange rates - XML format

2008-01-31 Thread Dominic Watson
Dunno about free but xe.com is around 500 USD a year, I've always used them
for personal use as they have always had a very direct website.

Dominic


On 31/01/2008, Matthew Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can pull a feed of the currency exchange rates.

 I have a project that we are processing everything in USD but we need to
 have a currency converter that will provide an estimate of the exchange
 rate.
 So what I was thinking was to pull in the currency rates nightly and
 provide
 a conversion table as a estimated charge.

 I know that CC companies and banks will charge additional fees but I need
 to
 provide an estimate.

 So I am trying to find a service or location that I can pull the data from
 (free if possible)

 Thanks

 Matthew Friedman






 

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Re: Currency Exchange rates - XML format

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Friedman
FYI I found a webserver and a tool from Ben Forta that does what I need.

you can see it here.

http://www.xmethods.net/ve2/ViewClient.po?clientid=253283

thanks
Matt

Does anyone know where I can pull a feed of the currency exchange rates.
 
I have a project that we are processing everything in USD but we need to
have a currency converter that will provide an estimate of the exchange
rate.
So what I was thinking was to pull in the currency rates nightly and provide
a conversion table as a estimated charge.
 
I know that CC companies and banks will charge additional fees but I need to
provide an estimate.
 
So I am trying to find a service or location that I can pull the data from
(free if possible)
 
Thanks
 
Matthew Friedman 

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Re: Currency Exchange rates - XML format

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Friedman
I found a webservice that does this for free

write by Ben Forta

http://www.xmethods.net/ve2/ViewClient.po?clientid=253283

Thanks

Matt



Does anyone know where I can pull a feed of the currency exchange rates.
 
I have a project that we are processing everything in USD but we need to
have a currency converter that will provide an estimate of the exchange
rate.
So what I was thinking was to pull in the currency rates nightly and provide
a conversion table as a estimated charge.
 
I know that CC companies and banks will charge additional fees but I need to
provide an estimate.
 
So I am trying to find a service or location that I can pull the data from
(free if possible)
 
Thanks
 
Matthew Friedman 

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One more image question..

2008-01-31 Thread Daniel Baughman
I am now trying to over lay a transparent png on to a jpeg someone uploads..
I convert the jpeg to a png by reading and it writing it out, but it seems
there are attributes of the image that coldfusion can't adjust, because
whenever I try to over lay I get this:

Overlay operation requires the two sources to match in number of bands and
data type. null brThe error occurred on line 91.

I'm not sure what bands are, but I'm guessing data type could be color
depth, since they are already png files?  Is it possible for Coldfusion to
convert these files to be similar enough to overlay them?

struct 
colormodel struct 
alpha_channel_support YES  
alpha_premultiplied NO  
bits_component_1 8  
bits_component_2 8  
bits_component_3 8  
bits_component_4 8  
colormodel_type ComponentColorModel  
colorspace Any of the family of RGB color spaces  
num_color_components 3  
num_components 4  
pixel_size 32  
transparency TRANSLUCENT  
 
height 565  
source **
width 800  
struct 
colormodel struct 
alpha_channel_support NO  
alpha_premultiplied NO  
bits_component_1 8  
bits_component_2 8  
bits_component_3 8  
colormodel_type ComponentColorModel  
colorspace Any of the family of RGB color spaces  
num_color_components 3  
num_components 3  
pixel_size 24  
transparency OPAQUE  
 
height 537  
source ***
width 804  


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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Williams
For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
support issues).

Actually, that's not a completely accurate statement.  The Daemonites have 
released FarCry to the public under an open source license, true.  However, 
most of the work done to the FarCry core is paid for by their clients.  
Support, training, implementation, modification can all be obtained through 
Daemon.  It's like other commercial offerings this way, but I'd venture a guess 
that Daemon is more willing to help when it comes to system modification.

Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot?  Depends on 
your needs.  My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing existing 
content easy (at least according the docs).  You can use a WYSIWIG editor to 
modify templates (again, from what I saw in the docs).  You can have a single 
authoring server and multiple front ends.  These are things that FarCry does 
not do (yet).

I'm curious about this myself.  I'll be meeting one of Dave Watt's team members 
in the near future for a CommonSpot install.  However, I'm only responsible for 
the machine it resides on.  I'll not be doing any development on it.


Matthew Williams
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intermedia.net

2008-01-31 Thread Brian Peddle
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Re: intermedia.net

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Slone
I've used them and have only had one or two minor issues in the past  
5 years. I currently host them and have a client that hosts on them.  
I would recommend.

/SS

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cfmenu styling

2008-01-31 Thread Michael Beins
I'm trying to style a menu, horizontal style where the top-level menu items 
have a blue back ground and white text and all sub-menus from there are white 
background blue text.
I am not having any luck, I've looked through many blogs and examples on how to 
hack that css but have not found a way to do what I am trying to do.  If anyone 
knows of blog or site that has a tutorial on how to do this it would be 
appreciated. 

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RE: CF-Based CRMs?

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Aebig
Thanks Rey,

I'll let you know...

!k

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs?

Kevin,

When it's ready for beta, email me and I'll get you some press on 
Ajaxian.com

Rey

Kevin Aebig wrote:
 Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the middle-tier and
MySQL
 / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty slick
 new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM.
 
 Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon...
 
 Cheers,
 
 !k
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs?
 
 I am sensing a need for a new open source project
 
 Is anyone going to bite?
 
 Mark
 
 On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD

 Adrian

 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango
 Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs?


 Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a
 CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short
 list.

 I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp.
 (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs.

 Rey...

 Kevin Aebig wrote:
 SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than
 SugerCRM is extremely close...

 !k

 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Childress
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs?

 I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex
 and/or CF with a certain amount of success.  Lets you leverage
 SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like.  For that
 matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code
 required, if you haven't already.

 -Cameron

 Adrian Lynch wrote:
 Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking
 about
 CRMs, not CMSs.

 I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given.
 But
 the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD


 
 
 
 



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RE: cfmenu styling

2008-01-31 Thread William Seiter
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-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfmenu styling

I'm trying to style a menu, horizontal style where the top-level menu items
have a blue back ground and white text and all sub-menus from there are
white background blue text.
I am not having any luck, I've looked through many blogs and examples on how
to hack that css but have not found a way to do what I am trying to do.  If
anyone knows of blog or site that has a tutorial on how to do this it would
be appreciated. 



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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Stewart
The feds general rule on Open Source is no. 
Exceptions being Apache, Sendmail and the like because either they offer
paid support or there's a third party authority who can provide support.

I've downloaded FarCry, I'll play with it, but they really want something
retail..

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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because
of
support issues).

Actually, that's not a completely accurate statement.  The Daemonites have
released FarCry to the public under an open source license, true.  However,
most of the work done to the FarCry core is paid for by their clients.
Support, training, implementation, modification can all be obtained through
Daemon.  It's like other commercial offerings this way, but I'd venture a
guess that Daemon is more willing to help when it comes to system
modification.

Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot?  Depends on
your needs.  My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing
existing content easy (at least according the docs).  You can use a WYSIWIG
editor to modify templates (again, from what I saw in the docs).  You can
have a single authoring server and multiple front ends.  These are things
that FarCry does not do (yet).

I'm curious about this myself.  I'll be meeting one of Dave Watt's team
members in the near future for a CommonSpot install.  However, I'm only
responsible for the machine it resides on.  I'll not be doing any
development on it.


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Geodesic GraFX
www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog 



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RE: cfmenu styling

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Francis
I think I do what you want at http://www.it360.ca/ . I adapted the css from
moreericmeyeroncss. Just view/source, it's all there. No tutorial tho

-Original Message-
From: Michael Beins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfmenu styling


I'm trying to style a menu, horizontal style where the top-level menu items
have a blue back ground and white text and all sub-menus from there are
white background blue text.
I am not having any luck, I've looked through many blogs and examples on how
to hack that css but have not found a way to do what I am trying to do.  If
anyone knows of blog or site that has a tutorial on how to do this it would
be appreciated.



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Very Large List Uploads

2008-01-31 Thread Chad McCue
I have a client uploading a .xls file containing 30k email addresses. I
first need to read that excel file which is fine, reading it with a
excel data source. I then need to parse through to remove all duplicate
emails and then insert into a table.
 
My system keeps timing out. The last file that worked had only 6k email
addresses. Anyone know how to handle large lists?


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RE: Very Large List Uploads

2008-01-31 Thread Che Vilnonis
Use cfsetting with a larger timeout? 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Very Large List Uploads

I have a client uploading a .xls file containing 30k email addresses. I
first need to read that excel file which is fine, reading it with a excel
data source. I then need to parse through to remove all duplicate emails and
then insert into a table.
 
My system keeps timing out. The last file that worked had only 6k email
addresses. Anyone know how to handle large lists?




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Re: Very Large List Uploads

2008-01-31 Thread Todd Rafferty
As Ben Forta and others have mentioned via Blog / Discussion groups, etc.
Working with lists / string is going to be inherently slower than working
with arrays and such.  So, read from the XLS and push that data into a 1
dimension array and then remove duplicates, etc (functions available on
cflib.org).

On Jan 31, 2008 2:18 PM, Chad McCue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a client uploading a .xls file containing 30k email addresses. I
 first need to read that excel file which is fine, reading it with a
 excel data source. I then need to parse through to remove all duplicate
 emails and then insert into a table.

 My system keeps timing out. The last file that worked had only 6k email
 addresses. Anyone know how to handle large lists?


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Re: Very Large List Uploads

2008-01-31 Thread Will Tomlinson
I have a client uploading a .xls file containing 30k email addresses. I
first need to read that excel file which is fine, reading it with a
excel data source. I then need to parse through to remove all duplicate
emails and then insert into a table.


I would entice the client to download a cheap list manager that'll read their 
excel file and straighten it out before the upload. 

I've used this one in the past with success. It's easy. 

http://www.programurl.com/npust-email-list-manager.htm

Will 

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Re: intermedia.net

2008-01-31 Thread Matt Quackenbush
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 I currently have 10+ boxes at HostMySite but we are looking to have a
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 Thanks



I hosted with Intermedia.net for about 7 or 8 years.  In terms of
reliability and response time, they were unequivocally the best host I've
ever had (and I've had a lot of them).  The _only_ reason that I do not
currently host with them is because my needs outgrew their affordability.  I
currently host with Enterhost.com, who has been probably the second best
host I've ever had, and is considerably more affordable.


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CF Charting question

2008-01-31 Thread Bruce Sorge
Has anyone used the CF Charting and graphing tags lately? I have a 
portion of our district site that I want to include charts and graphs 
for reports. In the past I used PopCharts which was a very cool 
application, but the school district does not like to spend that kind of 
money. Basically I want to have something like a pie chart, and when you 
click on it, it drills down to the details of that slice. Simple stuff 
like that.

Thanks,

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Re: CF Charting question

2008-01-31 Thread Alan Rother
CFCHART works ok on simple things, but as soon as you get into any
sort of detail, like drilling down, I'd recommend moving up to Flex.

I had a similar situation where we thought CFCHART would work and in
the end I had to do it all in Flex.

The charting tools work really well, they are in Flash and can very
easily connect to a variety of data that CF can provide.

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RE: Very Large List Uploads

2008-01-31 Thread Andy Matthews
It should be simple to create a temp table with a unique or PK constraint on
the email address. Set your cftry/catch database statement to empty. Then
loop over that file inserting each email address as you go. When it tries to
insert a dupe record, it would hit the empty catch block and essentially do
nothing, but the email address would not be inserted twice.

-Original Message-
From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Very Large List Uploads

I have a client uploading a .xls file containing 30k email addresses. I
first need to read that excel file which is fine, reading it with a excel
data source. I then need to parse through to remove all duplicate emails and
then insert into a table.
 
My system keeps timing out. The last file that worked had only 6k email
addresses. Anyone know how to handle large lists?




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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 01/02/2008, Matthew Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot?  Depends on 
 your needs.  My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing 
 existing content easy (at least according the docs).  You can use a WYSIWIG 
 editor to modify templates (again, from what I saw in the docs).  You can 
 have a single authoring server and multiple front ends.  These are things 
 that FarCry does not do (yet).

FarCry is a blessing for data import and export.   We don't believe in
template authoring through WYSIWYG so its unlikely to appear in the
code base without a corporate sponsor.  All of the multi-server
implementations of FarCry (of which their are many) typically operate
on the basis of a single authoring server and multiple front ends.

geoff
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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Scott Stewart wrote:
 For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
 federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
 support issues).

Didn't they hire you to provide the support? What exactly is your role 
if it isn't that?

Jochem

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Re: CF Charting question

2008-01-31 Thread Bruce Sorge
Thanks. I think that this app qualifies as simple. And Flex is not an 
option at this point as I am going back into the military and the 
district is going to very hard pressed to find a CF developer much less 
a flex developer.

Bruce

Alan Rother wrote:
 CFCHART works ok on simple things, but as soon as you get into any
 sort of detail, like drilling down, I'd recommend moving up to Flex.

 I had a similar situation where we thought CFCHART would work and in
 the end I had to do it all in Flex.

 The charting tools work really well, they are in Flash and can very
 easily connect to a variety of data that CF can provide.
   

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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 01/02/2008, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
 federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
 support issues).

It's a strange mentality given that the standard corporate EULA offers
nothing in the way of  a warranty or even a guarantee of
merchantability.  Some like iTunes even ask you to agree that the EULA
can change at any time.

Interestingly enough, we'll be releasing a FarCry Commercial License
this year for the very reasons you nominate.  Despite offering support
and training for years we still get this open source is not for us
mentality cropping up.  It's likely our commercial offering will be
the same as the open source, with a separate license and some extra
libraries.

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Re: CF Charting question

2008-01-31 Thread Alan Rother
Wow,

You're the 2nd CF guy I've talked to this week going back into military service.

Be safe

=]

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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Scott Stewart
Developer 
The Gov't expects a COTS product to have it's own support

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-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

Scott Stewart wrote:
 For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
 federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because
of
 support issues).

Didn't they hire you to provide the support? What exactly is your role 
if it isn't that?

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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Williams
See, now, I learn something new every day.  I've not looked into importing data 
since the 2.x days as most of my new sites have been scratch built.  I did try 
pushing FarCry for a huge EPA implementation, but they're dead set on 
CommonSpot.  One of the areas they claimed was lacking was Word/DB import 
features and using front end servers.  Of course, I only got to push the issue 
after the decision was already made.


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Re: Very Large List Uploads

2008-01-31 Thread Gerald Guido
Use  Select Distinct.
cfquery name=get_emails datasource=MyExcelDSN
SELECTDISTINCT strEmailAddress
FROM  myEmailList
/cfquery

On Jan 31, 2008 2:18 PM, Chad McCue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a client uploading a .xls file containing 30k email addresses. I
 first need to read that excel file which is fine, reading it with a
 excel data source. I then need to parse through to remove all duplicate
 emails and then insert into a table.

 My system keeps timing out. The last file that worked had only 6k email
 addresses. Anyone know how to handle large lists?


 

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special character

2008-01-31 Thread Don L
Hi,

I just noticed that for special characters like lt; myName at thisEmail 
address gt;
the regular  and  signs would cause display problem (not being displayed), 
so, one solution is to transform them before data capture.  Any other similar 
characters that we should be aware of / be cautious about?  Also, is there a 
systematic approach to this issue rather than, addressing them one by one?

Many thanks.



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It repeats itself!

2008-01-31 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
I wrote the following page to make a many-to-many relationship for a site 
search I need but when I test it it returns the product names several 
time.something like this: 
Product1Product1Product2Product2Product2Product1Product1Product3Product3Product3Product4Product4Product4Product4Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product6Product6Product6
 
 the comolete code is below. How can I filter the data that it return only one 
copy of any product not two!
Thanks
Benifn

cfquery name=test datasource=mydatabase
SELECT Companies.CompanyID, Companies.CompanyName, Companies.ManagerName, 
Companies.SalesManagerName, Companies.CompanyCity, Companies.CompanyAdd, 
Companies.CompanyDesc, Companies.CompanyRank, 
Companies_Products.Companies_ProductsID, Companies_Products.CompanyID, 
Companies_Products.ProductID, Products.ProductID, Products.ProductName, 
Products.ProductDesc, Products.ProductImage, Products.ProductTypeID
FROM Companies AS Companies, Companies_Products AS Companies_Products, Products 
AS Products
WHERE Products.ProductID = Companies_Products.ProductID
and Companies.CompanyID = Companies_Products.CompanyID;
/cfquery
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
body
cfoutput query=test#ProductName#/cfoutput
/body
/html


 

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RE: special character

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 I just noticed that for special characters like lt; myName 
 at thisEmail address gt; the regular  and  signs would 
 cause display problem (not being displayed), so, one solution 
 is to transform them before data capture.  Any other similar 
 characters that we should be aware of / be cautious about?

These are called metacharacters. Here's a list of HTML metacharacters:
http://www.netstrider.com/tutorials/HTMLRef/ASCII/metacharacters.html

Most of those characters are unlikely to be in data entered in an HTML form,
though. The ones you're likely to encounter are taken care of using the
functions described below.
 
 Also, is there a systematic approach to this issue rather 
 than, addressing them one by one?

Yes, the HTMLCodeFormat and HTMLEditFormat functions. These functions
replace double quotes, ampersands, and angle brackets with the corresponding
encoding sequence.

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Re: special character

2008-01-31 Thread Charlie Griefer
HTMLEditFormat() ?

On Jan 31, 2008 2:25 PM, Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I just noticed that for special characters like  myName at thisEmail address 
 
 the regular  and  signs would cause display problem (not being displayed), 
 so, one solution is to transform them before data capture.  Any other similar 
 characters that we should be aware of / be cautious about?  Also, is there a 
 systematic approach to this issue rather than, addressing them one by one?

 Many thanks.



 

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RE: making a query

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 Why do I get 36 records in my query when there should only be 
 8?  I must be doing something wrong with the AddRow and SetCell???
 
 ...
 
 cfloop from=1 to=#listLen(URL.SKUList)# index=i
   cfscript
   QueryAddRow(getSKUs, #variables.i#);
 ...

The second, optional argument for QueryAddRow specifies the number of rows
to add, not what the position of the added row should be. On the first
iteration of the loop, this will add one row to your query. On the second
iteration, it'll add two, and so on. If you only want to add one row, omit
the second argument of QueryAddRow.

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Re: It repeats itself!

2008-01-31 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Jan 31, 2008 2:30 PM, Ali Majdzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wrote the following page to make a many-to-many relationship for a site 
 search I need but when I test it it returns the product names several 
 time.something like this: 
 Product1Product1Product2Product2Product2Product1Product1Product3Product3Product3Product4Product4Product4Product4Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product5Product6Product6Product6
  the comolete code is below. How can I filter the data that it return only 
 one copy of any product not two!
 Thanks
 Benifn

 cfquery name=test datasource=mydatabase
 SELECT Companies.CompanyID, Companies.CompanyName, Companies.ManagerName, 
 Companies.SalesManagerName, Companies.CompanyCity, Companies.CompanyAdd, 
 Companies.CompanyDesc, Companies.CompanyRank, 
 Companies_Products.Companies_ProductsID, Companies_Products.CompanyID, 
 Companies_Products.ProductID, Products.ProductID, Products.ProductName, 
 Products.ProductDesc, Products.ProductImage, Products.ProductTypeID
 FROM Companies AS Companies, Companies_Products AS Companies_Products, 
 Products AS Products
 WHERE Products.ProductID = Companies_Products.ProductID
 and Companies.CompanyID = Companies_Products.CompanyID;
 /cfquery
 html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
 body
 cfoutput query=test#ProductName#/cfoutput
 /body
 /html

cfoutput#test.ProductName#/cfoutput would work, but i'm guessing
you want to display the product name once, and related data beneath
it?

http://tutorial150.easycfm.com/


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RE: making a query

2008-01-31 Thread Chad Gray
AH... thanks Dave!  That makes sense.

I thought it was the row number that the second attribute represented.  Like 
QueryAddRow was targeting a row number to insert into the query... 

Thanks!



-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: making a query

 Why do I get 36 records in my query when there should only be 
 8?  I must be doing something wrong with the AddRow and SetCell???
 
 ...
 
 cfloop from=1 to=#listLen(URL.SKUList)# index=i
   cfscript
   QueryAddRow(getSKUs, #variables.i#);
 ...

The second, optional argument for QueryAddRow specifies the number of rows
to add, not what the position of the added row should be. On the first
iteration of the loop, this will add one row to your query. On the second
iteration, it'll add two, and so on. If you only want to add one row, omit
the second argument of QueryAddRow.

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http://www.figleaf.com/

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Re: special character

2008-01-31 Thread Don L
Thank you, Charlie, you're exactly right, don.
HTMLEditFormat() ?


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Re: special character

2008-01-31 Thread Don L
Thank you a ton, Dave.  Oh my my, this sort of thing I knew years ago but now I 
totolly forgot, maybe it's two steps forward and one step backward...

These are called metacharacters. Here's a list of HTML metacharacters:
http://www.netstrider.com/tutorials/HTMLRef/ASCII/metacharacters.html

Most of those characters are unlikely to be in data entered in an HTML form,
though. The ones you're likely to encounter are taken care of using the
functions described below.
 
 Also, is there a systematic approach to this issue rather 
 than, addressing them one by one?

Yes, the HTMLCodeFormat and HTMLEditFormat functions. These functions
replace double quotes, ampersands, and angle brackets with the corresponding
encoding sequence.

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making a query

2008-01-31 Thread Chad Gray
Why do I get 36 records in my query when there should only be 8?  I must be 
doing something wrong with the AddRow and SetCell???

Im a little fried right now so I need an extra set of eyes.



cfset url.SKUList = 
940172000,990082202,990125104,080182700,080182722,940163500,940163518,940163520

cfset getSKUs = QueryNew(SKU,varchar)

cfloop from=1 to=#listLen(URL.SKUList)# index=i
cfscript
QueryAddRow(getSKUs, #variables.i#);
QuerySetCell(getSKUs, SKU, #listGetAt(URL.SKUList, i)#, 
#variables.i#);
/cfscript
/cfloop

cfdump var=#getSKUs#


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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Matthew Williams
So long as you charge Enterprise prices, you should be fine ;).  I still don't 
get that mentality, but if it's not expensive, then it must not be any good!


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Re: It repeats itself!

2008-01-31 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
On Jan 31, 2008 2:30 PM, Ali Majdzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

cfoutput#test.ProductName#/cfoutput would work, but i'm guessing
you want to display the product name once, and related data beneath
it?

http://tutorial150.easycfm.com/


-- 
Evelyn the dog, having undergone further modification pondered the
significance of short-person behaviour in pedal depressed,
pan-chromatic resonance, and other highly ambient domains. Arf, she
said.

Exactly. thanks a lot it works very great. Just a question. Does DISTINCT in 
SQL does the same thing or not? I know it won't be so great like grouping in 
CFQUERY but someone told me that I can show data once by using Distinct in SQL. 
Does it work here too or it is for other situation. THANKS IN ADVANCED AGAIN. 
the tutorial is great.
Benign 

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Re: It repeats itself!

2008-01-31 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Jan 31, 2008 3:02 PM, Ali Majdzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 31, 2008 2:30 PM, Ali Majdzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 cfoutput#test.ProductName#/cfoutput would work, but i'm guessing
 you want to display the product name once, and related data beneath
 it?
 
 http://tutorial150.easycfm.com/
 
 
 --
 Evelyn the dog, having undergone further modification pondered the
 significance of short-person behaviour in pedal depressed,
 pan-chromatic resonance, and other highly ambient domains. Arf, she
 said.

 Exactly. thanks a lot it works very great. Just a question. Does DISTINCT in 
 SQL does the same thing or not? I know it won't be so great like grouping in 
 CFQUERY but someone told me that I can show data once by using Distinct in 
 SQL. Does it work here too or it is for other situation. THANKS IN ADVANCED 
 AGAIN. the tutorial is great.
 Benign

DISTINCT does what it sounds like it does.  it will return unique
records.  But even if the productIDs in a set of records are the
same... what if the companyIDs are different?  every column in the
record has to be unique for a DISTINCT query to filter it.

If you're grouping the output, then presumably the data 'under' the
column on which you're grouping will be different, and therefore not
filtered out by adding in a DISTINCT.

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My latest Coldfusion Project for your Review

2008-01-31 Thread BA Hellman
Hi Everyone,

Take a bunch of interesting feeds, take out the bosh (nonsense), and
only show the stuff that matters

nobosh = Google News + Digg, with a sprinkle of Facebook

Only at nobosh.com:
1. nobosh Algorithms - Advanced algorithms that filter out the bosh
(nonsense) and feature the nobosh (no nonsense)
2. News Buzz Cloud - A tag cloud that visually depicts what's creating
buzz in the business, finance, and tech arenas
3. Your Viewing History – Easily find a news story you read days ago;
no more unsuccessful searching
4. Top 10 Lists - Top 10 articles of the day in each nobosh category
(Business News, Business Tech, Business and Finance Blogs) and across
categories, each composed using the nobosh algorithm
5. Friend Feed - A way to see what your friends have read, commented
on, nobosh'ed (pro vote), or bosh'ed (nay vote)

http://nobosh.com/

Please do not hesitate to contact me to discuss the site further. I
look forward to everyone's review and the opportunity to discuss the
future
of the project.

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RE: It repeats itself!

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 Does DISTINCT in SQL does the same thing or not? I know it 
 won't be so great like grouping in CFQUERY but someone told 
 me that I can show data once by using Distinct in SQL.

No, DISTINCT only filters out duplicates from your SELECT. If you select
company name and product name, for example, if one company has five products
you'll see that company five times, because the combination of values in
each record is unique.

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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Scott,

I am not sure if it is true that Fed Govt will say no to any open source. We
are using FarCry here on one of our largest public website for a Federal
Govt Agency.

Thanks

Qasim

On Jan 31, 2008 2:42 PM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The feds general rule on Open Source is no.
 Exceptions being Apache, Sendmail and the like because either they offer
 paid support or there's a third party authority who can provide support.

 I've downloaded FarCry, I'll play with it, but they really want something
 retail..

 --
 Scott Stewart
 ColdFusion Developer

 SSTWebworks
 4405 Oakshyre Way
 Raleigh, NC. 27616
 (919) 874-6229 (home)
 (703) 220-2835 (cell)

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:55 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

 For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
 federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because
 of
 support issues).

 Actually, that's not a completely accurate statement.  The Daemonites have
 released FarCry to the public under an open source license, true.
  However,
 most of the work done to the FarCry core is paid for by their clients.
 Support, training, implementation, modification can all be obtained
 through
 Daemon.  It's like other commercial offerings this way, but I'd venture a
 guess that Daemon is more willing to help when it comes to system
 modification.

 Now, will it meet your requirements the same way as CommonSpot?  Depends
 on
 your needs.  My understanding of CommonSpot is that it makes importing
 existing content easy (at least according the docs).  You can use a
 WYSIWIG
 editor to modify templates (again, from what I saw in the docs).  You can
 have a single authoring server and multiple front ends.  These are things
 that FarCry does not do (yet).

 I'm curious about this myself.  I'll be meeting one of Dave Watt's team
 members in the near future for a CommonSpot install.  However, I'm only
 responsible for the machine it resides on.  I'll not be doing any
 development on it.


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 Geodesic GraFX
 www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog



 

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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread John Mason
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

For my needs FarCry is out of the question because it's open source (most
federal agencies poo poo anything that's open source off the bat, because of
support issues).
--
 
Just because something is open source doesn't mean there isn't a company or
nonprofit group supporting it. Open source also doesn't mean free either.
For example, Flex is open source and yet Adobe fully supports it. Just to
make that clear, because many people confuse the open source world and the
aspects of it. FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like
Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training,etc. Most federal
agencies need a reality check anyway, but that's another discussion
altogether. 

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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Watts
 FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like 
 Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training, etc.

Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a
bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found
CommonSpot to be the best match with our client base. That's not meant as a
criticism of FarCry, though. Please don't hurt me, Geoff.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners
http://training.figleaf.com/

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RE: My latest Coldfusion Project for your Review

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Vernon
 http://nobosh.com/
 
 Please do not hesitate to contact me to discuss the site further. I
 look forward to everyone's review and the opportunity to discuss the
 future
 of the project.

You have a typo. Is see Please Regiser here when I click on comments...

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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Nate Willard
CommonSpot spot is really expensive... What do you get
from CommonSpot that FarCry does not provide for free?
Other than the hosted solution option, which is
great...

N


--- Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  FarCry is open source but you will see lots of
 companies like 
  Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to
 training, etc.
 
 Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry
 currently. We do quite a
 bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we
 evaluated CMSs, we found
 CommonSpot to be the best match with our client
 base. That's not meant as a
 criticism of FarCry, though. Please don't hurt me,
 Geoff.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified
 Partners
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
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RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Dale Fraser
I think they are both good products.

But CommonSport is a CMS and FarCry is a CMS and more.

I think the and more can be hard to get your head around and makes it seem
overly complicated.

But we use it where I work it is far better than the paid one we used to
use.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://learncf.com


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Paperthin's Commonspot

 FarCry is open source but you will see lots of companies like 
 Figleaf and others fully supporting it down to training, etc.

Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a
bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found
CommonSpot to be the best match with our client base. That's not meant as a
criticism of FarCry, though. Please don't hurt me, Geoff.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Azadi Saryev
see if this helps:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/213173675/ext-20-and-coldfusion

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ColdFusion wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?


   

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread James Holmes
I've used Ext 2 with CF with great success so far.

On Feb 1, 2008 11:26 AM, ColdFusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?



 I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
 and then maybe some others but right now just the one.



 http://extjs.com/

 http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html



 I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
 not an object


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ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread ColdFusion
Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?

 

I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
and then maybe some others but right now just the one.

 

http://extjs.com/

http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html

 

I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
not an object





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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
I've done a lot with utilizing the underlying 1.1 in the CF8 Ajax 
components, as well as some extensive pieces using straight Ext, both 
1.1 and 2.0. Great fun.

Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

ColdFusion wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?
 
  
 
 I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
 and then maybe some others but right now just the one.
 
  
 
 http://extjs.com/
 
 http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html
 
  
 
 I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
 not an object
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Scott
Can you post your code?

If you are using Firefox and fireBug you can see if there extJS files
are actually being loaded, I am guessing that this is the case.


On 2/1/08, ColdFusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?



 I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
 and then maybe some others but right now just the one.



 http://extjs.com/

 http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html



 I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
 not an object





 

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Should have read the rest of the question, sorry.

Look at Dan Vega's cfext project on RIAForge. He's already written a 
custom tag set specifically for working with simple message boxes in Ext 
2.0.

http://cfext.riaforge.org/

Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

ColdFusion wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?
 
  
 
 I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
 and then maybe some others but right now just the one.
 
  
 
 http://extjs.com/
 
 http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html
 
  
 
 I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
 not an object
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
BTW, if you try to create a MessageBox that is tied to an existing DOM 
element, by using the 'el' attribute in the config, then you want to 
make sure your object initialization code is written inside some kind of 
document.ready function (I use JQuery, but Ext 2.0 has a built in 
construct). If the document isn't ready, then your init can't find the 
element it must bind to.

Steve Cutter Blades
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_
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ColdFusion wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?
 
  
 
 I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
 and then maybe some others but right now just the one.
 
  
 
 http://extjs.com/
 
 http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html
 
  
 
 I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
 not an object
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Scott
Ext,get is a core function of extJS.

Has nothing to do with his problem Cutter:-)

However, I have not only used extJS on many projects and have used it
with extreme confidence. As well as interfacing the V1.0 that
Coldfusion uses.

So any questions, please ask away.

As for good libraries. This is the best one on hte internet today. Yes
it is written in JSTL, but it is very usable in cfmx6+

http://www.exttld.com/



On 2/1/08, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BTW, if you try to create a MessageBox that is tied to an existing DOM
 element, by using the 'el' attribute in the config, then you want to
 make sure your object initialization code is written inside some kind of
 document.ready function (I use JQuery, but Ext 2.0 has a built in
 construct). If the document isn't ready, then your init can't find the
 element it must bind to.

 Steve Cutter Blades
 Adobe Certified Professional
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 _
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

 ColdFusion wrote:
  Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?
 
 
 
  I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
  and then maybe some others but right now just the one.
 
 
 
  http://extjs.com/
 
  http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html
 
 
 
  I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
  not an object
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread James Holmes
Oh nice, thank for the heads up on that one. I really love the vegan
conditions of use!

On Feb 1, 2008 12:52 PM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 As for good libraries. This is the best one on hte internet today. Yes
 it is written in JSTL, but it is very usable in cfmx6+

 http://www.exttld.com/


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RE: My latest Coldfusion Project for your Review

2008-01-31 Thread BA Hellman
Paul,

I appreciate you talking to the time to review the site. I've made the
update to the story detail page. nice catch! Little embarrassed about
that, but happy to quickly resolve.

You'll need to register to fully see everything the site offers.
Viewing History, feeds etc.. Obviously I highly recommend it!

Thanks again,
BA


--- Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://nobosh.com/
 
  Please do not hesitate to contact me to discuss
 the site further. I
  look forward to everyone's review and the
 opportunity to discuss the
  future
  of the project.

 You have a typo. Is see Please Regiser here when I
 click on comments...

 Other than that, nice site, nice concept.

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Re: My latest Coldfusion Project for your Review

2008-01-31 Thread Nate Willard
ok that's awesome. Its nice to see something new and
fast. I especially like how its new and fast! :)

how'd you come up with the idea? How long did it take
to build? Who did the design and algorithms?

--- BA Hellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 Take a bunch of interesting feeds, take out the bosh
 (nonsense), and
 only show the stuff that matters
 
 nobosh = Google News + Digg, with a sprinkle of
 Facebook
 
 Only at nobosh.com:
 1. nobosh Algorithms - Advanced algorithms that
 filter out the bosh
 (nonsense) and feature the nobosh (no nonsense)
 2. News Buzz Cloud - A tag cloud that visually
 depicts what's creating
 buzz in the business, finance, and tech arenas
 3. Your Viewing History – Easily find a news story
 you read days ago;
 no more unsuccessful searching
 4. Top 10 Lists - Top 10 articles of the day in each
 nobosh category
 (Business News, Business Tech, Business and Finance
 Blogs) and across
 categories, each composed using the nobosh algorithm
 5. Friend Feed - A way to see what your friends have
 read, commented
 on, nobosh'ed (pro vote), or bosh'ed (nay vote)
 
 http://nobosh.com/
 
 Please do not hesitate to contact me to discuss the
 site further. I
 look forward to everyone's review and the
 opportunity to discuss the
 future
 of the project.
 
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Re: Paperthin's Commonspot

2008-01-31 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 01/02/2008, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just to clarify, we don't do any work with FarCry currently. We do quite a
 bit of work with CommonSpot, though. When we evaluated CMSs, we found
 CommonSpot to be the best match with our client base. That's not meant as a
 criticism of FarCry, though. Please don't hurt me, Geoff.

Bah... do I really sound that defensive?  Maybe its true -- will
endeavour to be my usual meek (as in inherit the earth) self ;)

geoff
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Re: ext20 cf

2008-01-31 Thread Rey Bango
Do you have some code to look at? You're either missing a file or you 
have them in the wrong order.

Rey...
Ext JS Core Team Member

ColdFusion wrote:
 Anyone using the ext js functions on a CF site?
 
  
 
 I am trying to setup the basic files needed to use the messagebox functions
 and then maybe some others but right now just the one.
 
  
 
 http://extjs.com/
 
 http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/message-box/msg-box.html
 
  
 
 I thought I pulled the core files but the JS error shows Ext.get is null or
 not an object
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Edwards
This site sounds like it will take all of your time doing moderation.
One of my friends started a similar site but with mechanics.

Also you might run into problems with profitableness, because the best  
advertising/sponsoring could come from someone who might have people  
on your site who hate them.


On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Joseph Smuzynski wrote:

 After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just  
 about
 ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between
 f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems.

 The idea is to have a site where consultants of all types can come and
 anonymously post their negative experiences with various companies,  
 large or
 small.  The hope is that with proper marketing, it will become the  
 first
 place a consultant comes to check out a company before doing work  
 for them.

 If a company ends up with a negative listing, the way they get the  
 listing
 removed is to make good with the consultant, then the consultant can  
 mark
 the case closed.  Naturally, if they have multiple bad entries, they  
 would
 have to make good with everybody.

 The site would not allow inflammatory types of comments about a  
 company;
 only facts.  Each entry would be reviewed and approved before being  
 posted.
 There would have to be supporting data too... for example, let's say a
 company refused to pay your last invoice.  You would need to provide  
 a copy
 of your last invoice and a work log to document it.

 All listings would have to include proof that you actually worked  
 for the
 company... e.g. copies of pay stubs, a copy of the contract, etc.   
 Otherwise
 the site could be used for extortion and would lose it's advantage  
 because
 it wouldn't be taken seriously.

 So, the point is to help show companies that they have to treat  
 consultants
 well... pay their people what they're owed, treat them kindly, etc.
 Otherwise these companies may find themselves unable to get people  
 to work
 for them anymore.

 I don't see this being a lawsuit magnet either.  Each posting would  
 have to
 be factual, not emotional.  No slanderous or libelous remarks.  Just  
 facts.
 It would boil down to the consultant's word against the company.   
 No names
 of people would be mentioned, so you couldn't call people out by  
 name.  You
 could go as far as to say your supervisor was a micro-manager but  
 you
 couldn't say, my supervisor, Bill Smith, was a micro-manager and  
 was always
 giving me a hard time.

 Sure, the easier way is to just post about 'em here on cf-jobs-talk,  
 but
 then you're likely to end up with a bad rap since a lot of job  
 posters read
 this list too, no doubt looking for anybody who might be willing to  
 speak
 out.

 I haven't really decided what to call the site either.  I'm not even  
 sure
 yet if I'll do it; I'm curious to hear what others think of the idea.

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Jeffry Houser
  It sounds like a lawsuit trap to me.
  The only way to keep it factual is if you moderate posts and control 
what people say.  Once you do that, then you are no longer protected 
under safe harbor provisions.

  All that said, even if you're in the right in terms of free speech, 
that won't protect you from getting sued.


  All that said, I'm surprised something like this doesn't already exist.

Joseph Smuzynski wrote:
 After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about
 ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between
 f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems.
 
 The idea is to have a site where consultants of all types can come and
 anonymously post their negative experiences with various companies, large or
 small.  The hope is that with proper marketing, it will become the first
 place a consultant comes to check out a company before doing work for them.
 
 If a company ends up with a negative listing, the way they get the listing
 removed is to make good with the consultant, then the consultant can mark
 the case closed.  Naturally, if they have multiple bad entries, they would
 have to make good with everybody.
 
 The site would not allow inflammatory types of comments about a company;
 only facts.  Each entry would be reviewed and approved before being posted.
 There would have to be supporting data too... for example, let's say a
 company refused to pay your last invoice.  You would need to provide a copy
 of your last invoice and a work log to document it.
 
 All listings would have to include proof that you actually worked for the
 company... e.g. copies of pay stubs, a copy of the contract, etc.  Otherwise
 the site could be used for extortion and would lose it's advantage because
 it wouldn't be taken seriously.
 
 So, the point is to help show companies that they have to treat consultants
 well... pay their people what they're owed, treat them kindly, etc.
 Otherwise these companies may find themselves unable to get people to work
 for them anymore.
 
 I don't see this being a lawsuit magnet either.  Each posting would have to
 be factual, not emotional.  No slanderous or libelous remarks.  Just facts.
 It would boil down to the consultant's word against the company.  No names
 of people would be mentioned, so you couldn't call people out by name.  You
 could go as far as to say your supervisor was a micro-manager but you
 couldn't say, my supervisor, Bill Smith, was a micro-manager and was always
 giving me a hard time.
 
 Sure, the easier way is to just post about 'em here on cf-jobs-talk, but
 then you're likely to end up with a bad rap since a lot of job posters read
 this list too, no doubt looking for anybody who might be willing to speak
 out.
 
 I haven't really decided what to call the site either.  I'm not even sure
 yet if I'll do it; I'm curious to hear what others think of the idea.
 
 Joe
 

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Trevor Cole
What about the flip-side of that coin ... A site for employers to
review their contracted hire. Why not build both into the site with
the ability to tag them together and to facilitate conflict
resolution? This could be quite the lucritive venture if done
properly.




On 1/31/08, Joseph Smuzynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about
 ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between
 f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems.

 The idea is to have a site where consultants of all types can come and
 anonymously post their negative experiences with various companies, large or
 small.  The hope is that with proper marketing, it will become the first
 place a consultant comes to check out a company before doing work for them.

 If a company ends up with a negative listing, the way they get the listing
 removed is to make good with the consultant, then the consultant can mark
 the case closed.  Naturally, if they have multiple bad entries, they would
 have to make good with everybody.

 The site would not allow inflammatory types of comments about a company;
 only facts.  Each entry would be reviewed and approved before being posted.
 There would have to be supporting data too... for example, let's say a
 company refused to pay your last invoice.  You would need to provide a copy
 of your last invoice and a work log to document it.

 All listings would have to include proof that you actually worked for the
 company... e.g. copies of pay stubs, a copy of the contract, etc.  Otherwise
 the site could be used for extortion and would lose it's advantage because
 it wouldn't be taken seriously.

 So, the point is to help show companies that they have to treat consultants
 well... pay their people what they're owed, treat them kindly, etc.
 Otherwise these companies may find themselves unable to get people to work
 for them anymore.

 I don't see this being a lawsuit magnet either.  Each posting would have to
 be factual, not emotional.  No slanderous or libelous remarks.  Just facts.
 It would boil down to the consultant's word against the company.  No names
 of people would be mentioned, so you couldn't call people out by name.  You
 could go as far as to say your supervisor was a micro-manager but you
 couldn't say, my supervisor, Bill Smith, was a micro-manager and was always
 giving me a hard time.

 Sure, the easier way is to just post about 'em here on cf-jobs-talk, but
 then you're likely to end up with a bad rap since a lot of job posters read
 this list too, no doubt looking for anybody who might be willing to speak
 out.

 I haven't really decided what to call the site either.  I'm not even sure
 yet if I'll do it; I'm curious to hear what others think of the idea.

 Joe


 

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Matt Williams
*cough* liability *cough*
Seeing as how it is anonymous, companies would come after the site
owner for anything they feel is untruthful (you know, the beyond the
shadow of a doubt type thing). Be careful trying to recreate a
judicial court.

On Jan 31, 2008 5:05 PM, Joseph Smuzynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about
 ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between
 f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems.

 The idea is to have a site where consultants of all types can come and
 anonymously post their negative experiences with various companies, large or
 small.  The hope is that with proper marketing, it will become the first
 place a consultant comes to check out a company before doing work for them.

 If a company ends up with a negative listing, the way they get the listing
 removed is to make good with the consultant, then the consultant can mark
 the case closed.  Naturally, if they have multiple bad entries, they would
 have to make good with everybody.

 The site would not allow inflammatory types of comments about a company;
 only facts.  Each entry would be reviewed and approved before being posted.
 There would have to be supporting data too... for example, let's say a
 company refused to pay your last invoice.  You would need to provide a copy
 of your last invoice and a work log to document it.

 All listings would have to include proof that you actually worked for the
 company... e.g. copies of pay stubs, a copy of the contract, etc.  Otherwise
 the site could be used for extortion and would lose it's advantage because
 it wouldn't be taken seriously.

 So, the point is to help show companies that they have to treat consultants
 well... pay their people what they're owed, treat them kindly, etc.
 Otherwise these companies may find themselves unable to get people to work
 for them anymore.

 I don't see this being a lawsuit magnet either.  Each posting would have to
 be factual, not emotional.  No slanderous or libelous remarks.  Just facts.
 It would boil down to the consultant's word against the company.  No names
 of people would be mentioned, so you couldn't call people out by name.  You
 could go as far as to say your supervisor was a micro-manager but you
 couldn't say, my supervisor, Bill Smith, was a micro-manager and was always
 giving me a hard time.

 Sure, the easier way is to just post about 'em here on cf-jobs-talk, but
 then you're likely to end up with a bad rap since a lot of job posters read
 this list too, no doubt looking for anybody who might be willing to speak
 out.

 I haven't really decided what to call the site either.  I'm not even sure
 yet if I'll do it; I'm curious to hear what others think of the idea.

 Joe


 

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Joseph Smuzynski
Trevor:

That's an interesting idea.  I'll admit the idea crossed my mind, but I
quickly dismissed it, because of the name-mentioning necessity.  Since many
consultants are individuals, or their business name is their name, it would
end up being finger-pointing.  If we could come up with a way to make it
workable, it's a really good idea.

With regard to liability... after more thought, I wonder
if freestyle comments (even if edited) should even be allowed.  If the
poster simply chooses from one or more checkboxes to describe the situation,
it should help keep things more manageable.

Like another said, I'm surprised nobody has done this yet either.  Heck, if
there's anybody out there who likes the idea as much as I do and wants to
help, email me off-list and let's talk.

Joe


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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Edwards
Checkbox criteria would definitely make it much better.



On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Joseph Smuzynski wrote:

 Trevor:

 That's an interesting idea.  I'll admit the idea crossed my mind,  
 but I
 quickly dismissed it, because of the name-mentioning necessity.   
 Since many
 consultants are individuals, or their business name is their name,  
 it would
 end up being finger-pointing.  If we could come up with a way to  
 make it
 workable, it's a really good idea.

 With regard to liability... after more thought, I wonder
 if freestyle comments (even if edited) should even be allowed.  If the
 poster simply chooses from one or more checkboxes to describe the  
 situation,
 it should help keep things more manageable.

 Like another said, I'm surprised nobody has done this yet either.   
 Heck, if
 there's anybody out there who likes the idea as much as I do and  
 wants to
 help, email me off-list and let's talk.

 Joe


 

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Cameron Childress
Sometimes it's best just to learn from your bad experiences and just 
move on.  Spending too much time stewing (in public) can be very 
counter-productive.

-Cameron

Joseph Smuzynski wrote:
 After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about
 ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between
 f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems.
   

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Edwards
Some of the issues I have encountered in the past is temp tech jobs  
recruiting for other contractors an the other subcontractor being the  
worst link in the chain.

I started working on a project once with about 50 people and most  
contractors rapidly dropped off because of harsh treatment with the  
other company in the middle.


On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Joseph Smuzynski wrote:

 Trevor:

 That's an interesting idea.  I'll admit the idea crossed my mind,  
 but I
 quickly dismissed it, because of the name-mentioning necessity.   
 Since many
 consultants are individuals, or their business name is their name,  
 it would
 end up being finger-pointing.  If we could come up with a way to  
 make it
 workable, it's a really good idea.

 With regard to liability... after more thought, I wonder
 if freestyle comments (even if edited) should even be allowed.  If the
 poster simply chooses from one or more checkboxes to describe the  
 situation,
 it should help keep things more manageable.

 Like another said, I'm surprised nobody has done this yet either.   
 Heck, if
 there's anybody out there who likes the idea as much as I do and  
 wants to
 help, email me off-list and let's talk.

 Joe


 

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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread s. isaac dealey
 What about the flip-side of that coin ... A site for employers to
 review their contracted hire. Why not build both into the site with
 the ability to tag them together and to facilitate conflict
 resolution? This could be quite the lucritive venture if done
 properly.

The way I understand it, some variation of theme is already built into
rentacoder.com for example... There are a couple of problems with that,
one being that it's just for projects contracted through rentacoder and
the other being that rentacoder is like a lot of sites / software a
great example of now not to design ergonomic software that people can
actually use. 

ymmv 

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