RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
It isn't a 'lack' of evening and weekend support, it is that the Senior tech (who knows about the Coldfusion thingy) is off nights and weekends. According to the tech I spoke to, if the server goes offline on a weekend (and cf won't restart) they call him at home and have it fixed within the hour... sozohosting.com Now, assuming that you cannot judge an entire company by the words spoken in just a few minutes on the phone (especially a tech guy), I am willing to assume that they either... had a turnover, this guy hasn't been trained on CF yet, or he was talking out of the side of his arse. The website if very specific that they 'allow' cffile and cfdirectory to be run, so by contract I am assuming that they don't allow cfobject, createObject and the others that can be explicitly restricted in the admin settings. Or, at least I will assume that until (and if) I speak to their senior tech next week. I am realizing 2 things now. 1. The group of people here on this list would probably be a great group of guys to get together in a room during the 'Big Smoke' in Las Vegas and just shoot the 'breeze' with. 2. There are some questions, asked on this list, that have the same effect as 2 Master Masons discussing ritual. Lots of opinions, experiences and argument, but no 1 best method. William -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -Original Message- From: Chris Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? On Feb 16, 2008 9:46 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. > Sorry to you if I offended. This topic has appeared to be a sensitive, > controversial or inflammatory subject for some of the people on this list. > I personally have been trying to keep out of the 'hot' stuff and stay more > in the Joe Friday 'Just the facts, ma'am' arena of things. > Good for you William. I'm curious: who did you say didn't have weekend/evening support? Chris > > William > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > Your comment? > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gerald, > > > > What was snarky? > > > > William > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. > > > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the > admin > > > and > > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > > they > > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes > in. > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF > 7. > > I > > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > > The good: > > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is > the > > > best > > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or > VPS > > as > > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > > You have control over: > > > file extensions > > > FTP > > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > > user accounts > > > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > > > Sub domains > > > etc > > > Fast pipe > > > > > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way > to > > > go. > > > > > > The bad: > > > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set > it > > > up. > > > That never took more t
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
On Feb 16, 2008 9:46 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to you if I offended. This topic has appeared to be a sensitive, > controversial or inflammatory subject for some of the people on this list. > I personally have been trying to keep out of the 'hot' stuff and stay more > in the Joe Friday 'Just the facts, ma'am' arena of things. > Good for you William. I'm curious: who did you say didn't have weekend/evening support? Chris > > William > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > Your comment? > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gerald, > > > > What was snarky? > > > > William > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. > > > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the > admin > > > and > > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > > they > > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes > in. > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF > 7. > > I > > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > > The good: > > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is > the > > > best > > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or > VPS > > as > > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > > You have control over: > > > file extensions > > > FTP > > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > > user accounts > > > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > > > Sub domains > > > etc > > > Fast pipe > > > > > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way > to > > > go. > > > > > > The bad: > > > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set > it > > > up. > > > That never took more than an hour or so. > > > > > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > > > situation's- So no opinion there. > > > > > > Best of luck > > > G > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > > > have > > > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences > > with > > > > this > > > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > > > Multiple > > > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be > unique, > > > > allows > > > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple > > domains > > > > to > > > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the > cfobject > > > tags > > > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, > only > > > has > > > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke > with > > > tech > > > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > > > know > > > > them, or know of them? > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > > > Web D
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
On Feb 16, 2008 10:04 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not trying to "win" jerry, just showing that myself along with lots of > other people on here have had issues with them above and beyond what would > be acceptable. > The only people I have seen who speak up for ct are on their own boxes, > you don't see many people on their shared servers speak up at all. > I'm on a shared server, and I love 'em. Sorry Dave. > And when people come on and ask for cheap hosting... Remember that the original poster *asked about CrystalTech specifically*. His post, also indicated (to me at least) that he'd done some research already on his own and kept coming up with CrystalTech. > and people come on and give recommendations of cheap servers but don't > give any info on that fact that yes they are cheap but they also don't > include any support and really anyone who is looking for cheap hosting > probably will need all the support that they can get in which case a cheap > server really isn't in there best interest. you can get a plain jane cheap > unmanaged server anywere, it's the support when you need it that in my book > is where I prefer to be covered. Well, that' "your book". The original poster said *nothing* about support in his criteria for his own personal "holy grail" of hosting. I (again this could just be me) take that to mean that William is a big boy and can take care of his own support. He also *specifically* mentioned that he wanted shared hosting. So all this talk about unmanaged, dedicated boxes is not really what he was looking for, right? Or like I said before... if i cant be reached and there is a problem I want > my customers to know they are covered. > again, not one of the original poster's concerns. He listed his concerns very clearly. This wasn't one of them. > Now would you host with someone would tell you that they are running mysql > server 2000 and not just once as in a "oopsy" but as in several times, even > after informing them that no such product exists and all that after waiting > over 45 minutes on hold to talk to them? So, you've never misspoken before? Wow, you're really super critical. Did you also correct the reps. grammar while you were at it? Not too mention most of the actual coldfusion team will not host there, too > me that says something. What do you mean by that? Who is "the actual coldfusion team". I'm assuming this an eat-your-own-dog-food thing... what's your source? > While what Jim does is great for him I don't think it would be good for > someone who needs hand holding on a server. What makes you judge the original poster in this way? At what point did you decide that he needed his hand held? His list of what he was looking for in a hosting company was, again, very clear... and hand holding was not mentioned. Sounds to me like the guy knows how to take care of himself. Obviously, he can recommend whatever he wants but he should also add the > facts to it because most people will assume that ct's ded boxes are > comparable to hms ded boxes and they aren't, one includes support one > doesn't but the average person asking doesn't know that. And personally, if > i took jims recommendation and went to ct and signed a contract and then > found out I had no support I would be pissed as hell at jim. If you took one person's suggestion without doing anymore homework, or if you asked for suggestions on a host and support was *really* important to you, but you failed to mention that, then I'd say you were the fool and should be pissed at yourself for not doing more homework. Do you like, *work* for HMS? Also, Jim never once in any of this compared Crystal Tech to HMS. You did that. > So if by "losing" you mean that if someone reads this and has a boner over > a $120 a month dedicated box (which I would also assume jim has a cfm > license for which isnt included in that cost) and it helps keep them from > getting into a major mess, then I am fine with that. I would rather have the > facts out there to help them out see how has the cheapest server... and > after all.. you get what what you pay for. You keep talking about 'facts', but you're only using anecdotal evidence (which is what we are all doing), but when someone else's experience differs from yours you dismiss what they said as 'non-fact', and instead substitute your own anecdotal evidence as fact. Which is exactly what Jim was getting at when he said, "As we've come to expect all other opinions are incorrect because you're experience differs." I'm afraid that's how you're coming across even if you don't mean to. Also, there's nothing to "win" in this. We should all just grow-up a bit. *steps off soapbox* Chris > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
On Feb 16, 2008 3:28 AM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "They have an excellent customer knowledgebase and support information > and support ticket system but would clearly rather limit human interaction > to a minimum." > > Actually they don't, one of my partners still has a dedicated box there > and I have to deal with them all the time and they are a complete nightmare. > I would sure like to know what this "excellent support system" is Last > week he had an issue and asked me to call them and see what the deal was but > I didn't have the ticket # and their "excellent support system" couldn't > even look it up by the customer account and after making it quite clear to > me in a very unprofessional manner that I couldn't expect them to and I told > him that HMS has no such problems and it is a rather easy thing for them to > do and the idiot hung up on me... nice service. So 5 hours later when his > plane landed and he got to his hotel and got into his email and got me the > ticket # and another 45 minutes on the phone with another idiot and a $150 > charge to his account they were actually able to restart the server. Great > service, I wish I had them Actually, it sounds like you may have gotten back what you gave. What constructive purpose does it serve to start throwing some other hosting company's name around, and saying, "Well... so-and-so doesn't have a problem with yadda-yadda-yadda." After having been in the support center service myself in the past (thankfully no longer), I've come to realize that I don't get much of anywhere if I act like an asshole on the phone. I've had none of these bad experiences with CT tech support. Never had problems with ticket numbers either. Can't say as I ever had to have one. If I did, then to the best of my knowledge, the guy on the phone opened the ticket for me, handled the call and was done with it. I still say +1 for CrystalTech, but as is obvious with pretty much *anything* YMMV. ;o) Chris > > > > ">To this end they have a very feature-rich, constantly evolving control > >panel, one that allows me to perform many tasks that I might otherwise > have > >to submit a request for." > I have been in that panel and its ok but still not as nice as others. > > ">I honestly have no idea what you're talking about... one of the > fundamental > >aspects of CrystalTech (and many other hosts) is that YOU run your > business. > >They do everything they can to ensure that your customers are NOT aware > that > >you're hosting at CrystalTech. They're customer control centers are > >generically branded as all customer-facing services - they abstract > >themselves out of the picture as a feature." > > LOL, you don't know what I am talking about? > Ok so lets say you get on a plane to hawaii and soon as you board the > plane your server goes down, well guess what.. its down for for quite a long > time before you have any idea and so your customers sites are down as well > and nothing can be done until you land and someone tells you which could be > 12 hours later. Now that might be ok for you Jim, but its not ok for me! > > I make it a HUGE deal to my customers to let them know who and where is > hosting their site and I make sure they have all the info they need in case > they can't find me but can call the host to get something fixed. Personally, > I want them them to know WTF is going on with their site and have abilities > to get things fixed if something goes wrong and I can't be contacted. After > all, it is THEIR web site and they are paying the bills. IMO, there is > absolutely no reason in the world to not add that extra layer of protection. > To me the way you do it is just another way for you to make money off of > your clients, while that is good for you it's not so good for customers. I > pay the extra money and pocket less out of the hosting to ensure things are > going right. Now you might not have had any problems or maybe you have, i > dunno but we just don't agree on biz models. > > "and criticizing them for it seems silly." > So for example last week derricks server goes down and since its at ct he > cant get it restarted and it takes them several hours to get it back up and > going, thats just damn silly aint it Jim. Not to mention all the damn hoops > we had to jump through just to verify the account, now maybe it is just me > but it shouldnt matter who the hell calls it in, if the damn server is down > then get it back on, which was something that their techs just couldnt > understand. > > But problem is that when people on here ask for hosting opinions they dont > usually ask if the plans are "managed" or "unmanaged". > > I know you love CT but I have yet to have a good experience with them, I > havent dealt with them a lot but the 30 or so times I have were nightmarish. > > "I can only relay my personal experience... and my personal experience has > been excellent." > > And I will respect that Jim. > And I can only relay my personal e
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
oops... I got over zealous with the delete key there. I originally went on to say that I pay roughly $200/year Chris On Feb 16, 2008 11:17 PM, Chris Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weird... > > On Feb 16, 2008 12:35 AM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > sure you can get a cheap server there and get 0 support. And when you do > > need support (talking about crystal tech) they will ream the crap out of you > > in charges. > > > > Crystal Tech has never charged *me* for support, and every time I've had > to call (which isn't often) I've gotten someone competent on the line who's > willing to help me out. > > -- > http://cjordan.us -- http://cjordan.us ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Weird... On Feb 16, 2008 12:35 AM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sure you can get a cheap server there and get 0 support. And when you do > need support (talking about crystal tech) they will ream the crap out of you > in charges. > Crystal Tech has never charged *me* for support, and every time I've had to call (which isn't often) I've gotten someone competent on the line who's willing to help me out. -- http://cjordan.us ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
+1 for CrystalTech. I've been using them for quite a while. Very nice host. Chris On Feb 15, 2008 6:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and have > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > this > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), Multiple > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > allows > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > to > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject tags > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only has > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with tech > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone know > them, or know of them? > > William > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Never mind... Took it as a slight. A bit bitchy today. On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did some research, found that they didn't have weekend/evening support, > reported back to the list. Does 'snarky' mean 'informative'? The word > doesn't sound like a nice word, so I thought it meant something else. > > Sorry to you if I offended. This topic has appeared to be a sensitive, > controversial or inflammatory subject for some of the people on this list. > I personally have been trying to keep out of the 'hot' stuff and stay more > in the Joe Friday 'Just the facts, ma'am' arena of things. > > William > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > Your comment? > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gerald, > > > > What was snarky? > > > > William > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. > > > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the > admin > > > and > > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > > they > > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes > in. > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF > 7. > > I > > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > > The good: > > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is > the > > > best > > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or > VPS > > as > > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > > You have control over: > > > file extensions > > > FTP > > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > > user accounts > > > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > > > Sub domains > > > etc > > > Fast pipe > > > > > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way > to > > > go. > > > > > > The bad: > > > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set > it > > > up. > > > That never took more than an hour or so. > > > > > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > > > situation's- So no opinion there. > > > > > > Best of luck > > > G > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > > > have > > > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences > > with > > > > this > > > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > > > Multiple > > > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be > unique, > > > > allows > > > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple > > domains > > > > to > > > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the > cfobject > > > tags > > > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, > only > > > has > > > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke > with > > > tech > > > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > > > know > > > > them, or know of them? > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > William E. Seiter > > >
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
>>you might want to look at Sozo. Best of luck On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did some research, found that they didn't have weekend/evening support, > reported back to the list. Does 'snarky' mean 'informative'? The word > doesn't sound like a nice word, so I thought it meant something else. > > Sorry to you if I offended. This topic has appeared to be a sensitive, > controversial or inflammatory subject for some of the people on this list. > I personally have been trying to keep out of the 'hot' stuff and stay more > in the Joe Friday 'Just the facts, ma'am' arena of things. > > William > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > Your comment? > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gerald, > > > > What was snarky? > > > > William > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. > > > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the > admin > > > and > > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > > they > > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes > in. > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF > 7. > > I > > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > > The good: > > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is > the > > > best > > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or > VPS > > as > > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > > You have control over: > > > file extensions > > > FTP > > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > > user accounts > > > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > > > Sub domains > > > etc > > > Fast pipe > > > > > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way > to > > > go. > > > > > > The bad: > > > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set > it > > > up. > > > That never took more than an hour or so. > > > > > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > > > situation's- So no opinion there. > > > > > > Best of luck > > > G > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > > > have > > > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences > > with > > > > this > > > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > > > Multiple > > > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be > unique, > > > > allows > > > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple > > domains > > > > to > > > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the > cfobject > > > tags > > > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, > only > > > has > > > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke > with > > > tech > > > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > > > know > > > > them, or know of them? > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > >
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I'm not trying to "win" jerry, just showing that myself along with lots of other people on here have had issues with them above and beyond what would be acceptable. The only people I have seen who speak up for ct are on their own boxes, you don't see many people on their shared servers speak up at all. And when people come on and ask for cheap hosting and people come on and give recommendations of cheap servers but don't give any info on that fact that yes they are cheap but they also don't include any support and really anyone who is looking for cheap hosting probably will need all the support that they can get in which case a cheap server really isn't in there best interest. you can get a plain jane cheap unmanaged server anywere, it's the support when you need it that in my book is where I prefer to be covered. Or like I said before... if i cant be reached and there is a problem I want my customers to know they are covered. Now would you host with someone would tell you that they are running mysql server 2000 and not just once as in a "oopsy" but as in several times, even after informing them that no such product exists and all that after waiting over 45 minutes on hold to talk to them? Not too mention most of the actual coldfusion team will not host there, too me that says something. While what Jim does is great for him I don't think it would be good for someone who needs hand holding on a server. Obviously, he can recommend whatever he wants but he should also add the facts to it because most people will assume that ct's ded boxes are comparable to hms ded boxes and they aren't, one includes support one doesn't but the average person asking doesn't know that. And personally, if i took jims recommendation and went to ct and signed a contract and then found out I had no support I would be pissed as hell at jim. So if by "losing" you mean that if someone reads this and has a boner over a $120 a month dedicated box (which I would also assume jim has a cfm license for which isnt included in that cost) and it helps keep them from getting into a major mess, then I am fine with that. I would rather have the facts out there to help them out see how has the cheapest server... and after all.. you get what what you pay for. >Dave, as a fairly impartial observer, talking general professional and >personal respect, you aren't going to win this one against Jim, I >don't think. > >Lol! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Did some research, found that they didn't have weekend/evening support, reported back to the list. Does 'snarky' mean 'informative'? The word doesn't sound like a nice word, so I thought it meant something else. Sorry to you if I offended. This topic has appeared to be a sensitive, controversial or inflammatory subject for some of the people on this list. I personally have been trying to keep out of the 'hot' stuff and stay more in the Joe Friday 'Just the facts, ma'am' arena of things. William -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? Your comment? On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gerald, > > What was snarky? > > William > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > > and > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > they > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > > > William > > > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. > I > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > The good: > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > > best > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS > as > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > You have control over: > > file extensions > > FTP > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > user accounts > > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > > Sub domains > > etc > > Fast pipe > > > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to > > go. > > > > The bad: > > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it > > up. > > That never took more than an hour or so. > > > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > > situation's- So no opinion there. > > > > Best of luck > > G > > > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > > have > > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences > with > > > this > > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > > Multiple > > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > > > allows > > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple > domains > > > to > > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject > > tags > > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only > > has > > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with > > tech > > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > > know > > > them, or know of them? > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > -- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http:/
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Your comment? On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gerald, > > What was snarky? > > William > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. > > On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > > and > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > they > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > > > William > > > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. > I > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > The good: > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > > best > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS > as > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > You have control over: > > file extensions > > FTP > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > user accounts > > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > > Sub domains > > etc > > Fast pipe > > > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to > > go. > > > > The bad: > > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it > > up. > > That never took more than an hour or so. > > > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > > situation's- So no opinion there. > > > > Best of luck > > G > > > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > > have > > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences > with > > > this > > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > > Multiple > > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > > > allows > > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple > domains > > > to > > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject > > tags > > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only > > has > > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with > > tech > > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > > know > > > them, or know of them? > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > -- > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Gerald, What was snarky? William -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Gerald. > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > and > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that they > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > William > > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > The good: > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > best > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > You have control over: > file extensions > FTP > DNS (full control - very nice) > user accounts > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > Sub domains > etc > Fast pipe > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to > go. > > The bad: > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it > up. > That never took more than an hour or so. > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > situation's- So no opinion there. > > Best of luck > G > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > have > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > > this > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > Multiple > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > > allows > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > > to > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject > tags > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only > has > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with > tech > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > know > > them, or know of them? > > > > William > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Now that I think about it. That was rather snarky. On 2/16/08, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Gerald. > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > and > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that they > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > William > > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > The good: > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > best > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > You have control over: > file extensions > FTP > DNS (full control - very nice) > user accounts > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > Sub domains > etc > Fast pipe > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to > go. > > The bad: > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it > up. > That never took more than an hour or so. > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > situation's- So no opinion there. > > Best of luck > G > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > have > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > > this > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > Multiple > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > > allows > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > > to > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject > tags > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only > has > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with > tech > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > know > > them, or know of them? > > > > William > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Dave, as a fairly impartial observer, talking general professional and personal respect, you aren't going to win this one against Jim, I don't think. Lol! On Feb 16, 2008 5:51 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And your lil quote below is exactly how you are as well > > >Well then they don't Dave. As we've come to expect all other opinions are > >incorrect because you're experience differs. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Well thank god Jim that I won't have to much longer! He's had it with them and is moving over to my xserve at hms. I think their charge of $950 to make a virtual mapping was the last straw, which btw~ they couldn't even do right after trying for 3 days(pathetic). I actually had him call up HMS and they walked him through how to do it himself in 3 minutes and he wasn't even their customer. Some people just expect better better things I wasn't saying you were incorrect just asking about things you mentioned as I have surely never seen the good aspects of them. Or when some asks about hosting and you go off on how cheap CT is compared to HMS and then the person thinks thats that "wow" they are this much cheaper but what they don't understand is that one is a managed server and one is not. Now if you had actually thought about that you'd realize that if someone is asking about hosting on here then chances are pretty damn good that they aren't qualified to be running a server themselves. And so when you tell them how cheap your server is and if they go get it then find themselves completely f*cked when they have signed a contract for the server but cant run it and then have to pay huge amounts of $$ to ct to get help which in the end costs them tons more. And your lil quote below is exactly how you are as well >Well then they don't Dave. As we've come to expect all other opinions are >incorrect because you're experience differs. > >Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cf to pdf
? On Feb 16, 2008 1:32 PM, Steve Kahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For output of cf to pdf what would you recommend? > I need to pass form input to 50 different letters and then save them as one > pdf file. > > TIA > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 > 2:16 PM > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: reinit application variables
On Feb 16, 2008 3:40 PM, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you reset application variables? > > I am using application.cfc to set some application variables and cant figure > out how to reset them so they reload with different data. One way is to add this in onRequestStart: Then you can reset them by adding init=myInitPass into the url. -- Matt Williams "It's the question that drives us." ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
reinit application variables
How do you reset application variables? I am using application.cfc to set some application variables and cant figure out how to reset them so they reload with different data. Thanks, Chad ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Never mind then. On Feb 16, 2008 4:00 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup. > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > This place? > http://www.sozohosting.com/ > > On Feb 16, 2008 3:44 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thank you Gerald. > > > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > > and > > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that > they > > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > > > William > > > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. > I > > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > > The good: > > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > > best > > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS > as > > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > > You have control over: > > file extensions > > FTP > > DNS (full control - very nice) > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Yup. -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? This place? http://www.sozohosting.com/ On Feb 16, 2008 3:44 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Gerald. > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > and > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that they > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > William > > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > The good: > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > best > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > You have control over: > file extensions > FTP > DNS (full control - very nice) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Hah... love those messy wiring jobs they proudly made part of their site design. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? This place? http://www.sozohosting.com/ On Feb 16, 2008 3:44 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Gerald. > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > and > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that they > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > William > > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > The good: > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > best > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > You have control over: > file extensions > FTP > DNS (full control - very nice) > user accounts > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > Sub domains > etc > Fast pipe > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to > go. > > The bad: > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it > up. > That never took more than an hour or so. > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > situation's- So no opinion there. > > Best of luck > G > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > have > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > > this > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > Multiple > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > > allows > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > > to > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject > tags > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only > has > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with > tech > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > know > > them, or know of them? > > > > William > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
This place? http://www.sozohosting.com/ On Feb 16, 2008 3:44 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Gerald. > > I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin > and > was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that they > could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. > > William > > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > There is no holy grail of hosting. > > With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I > donno about cfobject either, you can ask. > > My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. > The good: > Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 > H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the > best > hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as > you can get in a shared hosting environment. > You have control over: > file extensions > FTP > DNS (full control - very nice) > user accounts > Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access > Sub domains > etc > Fast pipe > > And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to > go. > > The bad: > IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it > up. > That never took more than an hour or so. > > No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type > situation's- So no opinion there. > > Best of luck > G > > On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and > have > > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > > this > > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), > Multiple > > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > > allows > > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > > to > > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject > tags > > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only > has > > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with > tech > > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone > know > > them, or know of them? > > > > William > > > > > > -- > > William E. Seiter > > > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > > http://William.Seiter.com > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
Thank you Gerald. I called tech support to find out what tags they restrict from the admin and was told that they don't know anything about the coldfusion, and that they could have the senior engineer call me back next week when he comes in. William -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? There is no holy grail of hosting. With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I donno about cfobject either, you can ask. My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. The good: Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the best hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as you can get in a shared hosting environment. You have control over: file extensions FTP DNS (full control - very nice) user accounts Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access Sub domains etc Fast pipe And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to go. The bad: IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it up. That never took more than an hour or so. No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type situation's- So no opinion there. Best of luck G On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and have > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > this > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), Multiple > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > allows > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > to > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject tags > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only has > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with tech > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone know > them, or know of them? > > William > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Triggering Javascript within CFINPUT - DATEFIELD
This may be a double post. Having a hard time figuring out how this forum works... I have developed a workaround to the issue described in my sample code which may help you. The following version does say 'Hi' when you change the date via the picker. Date: ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Triggering Javascript within CFINPUT - DATEFIELD
I have developed a workaround to the issue described in my sample code which may help you. The following version does say 'Hi' when you change the date via the picker. Date: ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
cf to pdf
For output of cf to pdf what would you recommend? I need to pass form input to 50 different letters and then save them as one pdf file. TIA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cf file action = read problem
>#jsStringFormat(xmlcontent)# should do it thanks bobby, that is now translating fine :) thanks again ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: Looking for Email provider
I ran my own Exchange 2005 server for a couple of years, but recently changed my MX to point to gmail. So far everything is great as far as mail is concerned, but I do miss the extra exchange features sometimes. No calendar, or tasks in my client (thunderbird) but these things are available through the gmail interface or through plugins in your client. If you are using Outlook then you will have these features still, but obviously won't be able to leverage them through Exchange. It's a toss up really. If you don't want those things or don't care about collaboration through the desktop client then gmail might be a great fit as a mail exchanger. That's my $.02 anyway. ~Steve http://goodcf.instantspot.com/blog Michael David wrote: > Hello all > > Sorry for the off-topic thread, but my guess is that there are others > here who have faced this same decision. > > I am considering outsourcing the email services I provide to my various > clients. > Exchange 2007 would be nice, but not necessary. > > Any suggestions? > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cf file action = read problem
#jsStringFormat(xmlcontent)# should do it ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cf file action = read problem hi bobby, thanks for your reply. very good point we now see that, except we need to be able to use the xmlString value in javascript. each time we try to reference it produces an error so basically, is there a way that we can translate the xml code that we have taken out of the xml document into a javascript string? thanks ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cf file action = read problem
hi bobby, thanks for your reply. very good point we now see that, except we need to be able to use the xmlString value in javascript. each time we try to reference it produces an error so basically, is there a way that we can translate the xml code that we have taken out of the xml document into a javascript string? thanks ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Box has been attacked by cowboy
Simply put, I use it as a wake-up call. Thanks for your thoughts. > >In that case, your insurer would likely require you to meet specific >security standards. If you didn't meet them - and I feel confident that you >wouldn't have in this case - they would refuse your claim. > >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software >http://www.figleaf.com/ > >Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners >http://training.figleaf.com/ > >WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! >http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cf file action = read problem
Its displaying as html. View source. It is probably exactly what you are expecting it to be. If you want it displayed as xml, use cfcontent to reset content and make the browser think it is viewing an xml doc. Eg.. #filecontent# ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cf file action = read problem hi, we have an xml file in a folder. we are trying to get the full contents of the xml out an into a string. however it is not being pulled out correctly. sorry for the long code but this is the contents of the xml document: QuestionsTexts Number One to Many Testasdsgasgasasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasdadaasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber now here is the code we are using to get the data out and into a string: then if we try to cfoutput the xmlString variable it displays this result: QuestionsTexts Number One to Many Testasdsgasgasasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasdadaasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber but we need it to come out exactly as it is in the document with the cell tags etc... we have even tried it as a txt file instead of a xml file but it still produces the same results. does anyone have any idea on how we can do this thanks very much richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
OT: Looking for Email provider
Hello all Sorry for the off-topic thread, but my guess is that there are others here who have faced this same decision. I am considering outsourcing the email services I provide to my various clients. Exchange 2007 would be nice, but not necessary. Any suggestions? -- Cheers! Michael David ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
cf file action = read problem
hi, we have an xml file in a folder. we are trying to get the full contents of the xml out an into a string. however it is not being pulled out correctly. sorry for the long code but this is the contents of the xml document: QuestionsTexts Number One to Many Testasdsgasgasasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasdadaasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber now here is the code we are using to get the data out and into a string: then if we try to cfoutput the xmlString variable it displays this result: QuestionsTexts Number One to Many Testasdsgasgasasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasdadaasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber asdsasds text 3 Inner One to Many TestInner UINumber but we need it to come out exactly as it is in the document with the cell tags etc... we have even tried it as a txt file instead of a xml file but it still produces the same results. does anyone have any idea on how we can do this thanks very much richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
change http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm to http://localhost/administrator/index.cfm
Hi: I know it's very basic but I don't know how! I have installed CF8 for a while and it works fine but I wonder How I can change my address from http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfmto http://localhost/administrator/index.cfm I mean I change my default server ro local host istead of the current 127.0.0.1 Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
There is no holy grail of hosting. With that said, you might want to look at Sozo. They are still on CF 7. I donno about cfobject either, you can ask. My limited experience with tech support was good. Pretty snappy. The good: Unlimited domains (I think) for $20 H-sphere control panel. IMO based on years of expereince and R&D is the best hosting CP I have worked with. It is as close to a dedicated box or VPS as you can get in a shared hosting environment. You have control over: file extensions FTP DNS (full control - very nice) user accounts Databases - Mysql and MSSQL Access Sub domains etc Fast pipe And if you want to do resellers hosting Hsphere is definitely the way to go. The bad: IT doesn't do CF DSN's on the fly - you have to wait untill they set it up. That never took more than an hour or so. No experience with mission critical - shit hitting the fan - type situation's- So no opinion there. Best of luck G On Feb 15, 2008 7:24 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I have found a great need to find a new hosting company and have > been looking for my personal 'Holy Grail' of shared hosting offers. > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any good or bad experiences with > this > company so that I don't take the wrong road. > > My criteria for 'Holy Grail' is: Inexpensive (always important), Multiple > domain names can be served from same hosting and appear to be unique, > allows > access to cfobject and other CFC tags, preferably CF8. > > In my research the most often come across issue was the multiple domains > to > a single hosting account. The few that had it, disabled the cfobject tags > and functions. Except this one: CrystalTech > > http://www.crystaltech.com/coldfusion8.aspx > > It's inexpensive (starting at $17/mo), is CF8, has extra domains, only has > cfschedule/cfregistry/cfexecute restricted in their admin (spoke with tech > support for this info). I can't find the kick in the pants. Anyone know > them, or know of them? > > William > > > -- > William E. Seiter > > Have you ever read a book that changed your life? > Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com > Enter passkey: goldengrove > > Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer > http://William.Seiter.com > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
I have a dedicated server at CrystalTech and I think they've been fantastic. No they're not going to hold your hand and teach you everything you need to know about managing DNS and IIS but you're supposed to be grown up enough to RTFM on your own. I've only ever had a few issues, they were quickly and professionally addressed, and I like very much having full control over my own first class webserver. CrystalTech rocks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
> -Original Message- > From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:28 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting? > > "They have an excellent customer knowledgebase and support information > and support ticket system but would clearly rather limit human > interaction to a minimum." > > Actually they don't, one of my partners still has a dedicated box there > and I have to deal with them all the time and they are a complete > nightmare. Well then they don't Dave. As we've come to expect all other opinions are incorrect because you're experience differs. Jim Davis ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT - Box has been attacked by cowboy
> Ok, since we're at it and I don't mind if you compared it to > 'theft', well, let me say this, the 'windows'/'doors' were > all locked but as you mentioned, but hardened criminals would > probably have a way to get it. If someone was able to change your data schema, your analogy fails. You most likely either (a) exposed your database server to the public internet, or (b) your application can be manipulated to change your data schema. Both of these are "security 101" things. > You know what, someone should offer computer security insurance... In that case, your insurer would likely require you to meet specific security standards. If you didn't meet them - and I feel confident that you wouldn't have in this case - they would refuse your claim. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AutoSuggest from a database query
mxAjax will do this: http://www.indiankey.com/mxajax/examples/mxAutocomplete1.cfm On Feb 16, 2008 6:53 PM, Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > I know about CF autosuggest ability in a cfinput tag but I need to use an > autosuggest in normal input tag (not cftinput) and I want to read the > suggestion list from a database query. As a matter of fact I want to have > something like the following code but with FORM/INPUT not CFFOMR/CFINPUT. > What do you suggest? Something easy please. I am a newbie. > Thanks > Ali > > > SELECT * > FROM Tbl_Users > WHERE UserName LIKE '%#FORM.Search#%' > > > > class="registrationForm_SRTL" autosuggest="#ValueList(User.UserName)#" > > > value="ÌÓÊÌæ"> > > -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: AutoSuggest from a database query
Ali I'll suggest you to use jQuery. This javascript library haves very nice autocomplete examples: http://jquery.bassistance.de/autocomplete/ http://www.dyve.net/jquery/?autocomplete Dan G. Switzer creates this(with ColdFusion in server side): http://blog.pengoworks.com/index.cfm/2007/1/12/My-jQuery-Autocomplete-Mod Cheers Marco Antonio On Feb 16, 2008 7:53 AM, Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > I know about CF autosuggest ability in a cfinput tag but I need to use an > autosuggest in normal input tag (not cftinput) and I want to read the > suggestion list from a database query. As a matter of fact I want to have > something like the following code but with FORM/INPUT not CFFOMR/CFINPUT. > What do you suggest? Something easy please. I am a newbie. > Thanks > Ali > > > SELECT * > FROM Tbl_Users > WHERE UserName LIKE '%#FORM.Search#%' > > > > class="registrationForm_SRTL" autosuggest="#ValueList(User.UserName)#" > > > value="ÌÓÊÌæ"> > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: AutoSuggest from a database query
Check out Yahoo YUI - that is essentially what CF uses under the hood. Jose On Feb 16, 2008 9:53 AM, Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi: > I know about CF autosuggest ability in a cfinput tag but I need to use an > autosuggest in normal input tag (not cftinput) and I want to read the > suggestion list from a database query. As a matter of fact I want to have > something like the following code but with FORM/INPUT not CFFOMR/CFINPUT. > What do you suggest? Something easy please. I am a newbie. > Thanks > Ali > > > SELECT * > FROM Tbl_Users > WHERE UserName LIKE '%#FORM.Search#%' > > > > class="registrationForm_SRTL" autosuggest="#ValueList(User.UserName)#" > > > value="ÌÓÊÌæ"> > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
AutoSuggest from a database query
Hi: I know about CF autosuggest ability in a cfinput tag but I need to use an autosuggest in normal input tag (not cftinput) and I want to read the suggestion list from a database query. As a matter of fact I want to have something like the following code but with FORM/INPUT not CFFOMR/CFINPUT. What do you suggest? Something easy please. I am a newbie. Thanks Ali SELECT * FROM Tbl_Users WHERE UserName LIKE '%#FORM.Search#%' ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SOT: Holy Grail? Hosting?
"They have an excellent customer knowledgebase and support information and support ticket system but would clearly rather limit human interaction to a minimum." Actually they don't, one of my partners still has a dedicated box there and I have to deal with them all the time and they are a complete nightmare. I would sure like to know what this "excellent support system" is Last week he had an issue and asked me to call them and see what the deal was but I didn't have the ticket # and their "excellent support system" couldn't even look it up by the customer account and after making it quite clear to me in a very unprofessional manner that I couldn't expect them to and I told him that HMS has no such problems and it is a rather easy thing for them to do and the idiot hung up on me... nice service. So 5 hours later when his plane landed and he got to his hotel and got into his email and got me the ticket # and another 45 minutes on the phone with another idiot and a $150 charge to his account they were actually able to restart the server. Great service, I wish I had them ">To this end they have a very feature-rich, constantly evolving control >panel, one that allows me to perform many tasks that I might otherwise have >to submit a request for." I have been in that panel and its ok but still not as nice as others. ">I honestly have no idea what you're talking about... one of the fundamental >aspects of CrystalTech (and many other hosts) is that YOU run your business. >They do everything they can to ensure that your customers are NOT aware that >you're hosting at CrystalTech. They're customer control centers are >generically branded as all customer-facing services - they abstract >themselves out of the picture as a feature." LOL, you don't know what I am talking about? Ok so lets say you get on a plane to hawaii and soon as you board the plane your server goes down, well guess what.. its down for for quite a long time before you have any idea and so your customers sites are down as well and nothing can be done until you land and someone tells you which could be 12 hours later. Now that might be ok for you Jim, but its not ok for me! I make it a HUGE deal to my customers to let them know who and where is hosting their site and I make sure they have all the info they need in case they can't find me but can call the host to get something fixed. Personally, I want them them to know WTF is going on with their site and have abilities to get things fixed if something goes wrong and I can't be contacted. After all, it is THEIR web site and they are paying the bills. IMO, there is absolutely no reason in the world to not add that extra layer of protection. To me the way you do it is just another way for you to make money off of your clients, while that is good for you it's not so good for customers. I pay the extra money and pocket less out of the hosting to ensure things are going right. Now you might not have had any problems or maybe you have, i dunno but we just don't agree on biz models. "and criticizing them for it seems silly." So for example last week derricks server goes down and since its at ct he cant get it restarted and it takes them several hours to get it back up and going, thats just damn silly aint it Jim. Not to mention all the damn hoops we had to jump through just to verify the account, now maybe it is just me but it shouldnt matter who the hell calls it in, if the damn server is down then get it back on, which was something that their techs just couldnt understand. But problem is that when people on here ask for hosting opinions they dont usually ask if the plans are "managed" or "unmanaged". I know you love CT but I have yet to have a good experience with them, I havent dealt with them a lot but the 30 or so times I have were nightmarish. "I can only relay my personal experience... and my personal experience has been excellent." And I will respect that Jim. And I can only relay my personal experience and that of approx 15 other ppl that I know who have used them and have had detailed conversations with me about them. And a lot of those were customers of their and everyone of them have thanked me time after time for taking them to HMS. And my personally experience with has been nothing less than pathetic. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299184 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Book Library Management Application Sample
Hi: Is there any Book Library Management Application Sample made by CF out there? I am considering making one and a sample could help very much. Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
