Re: Upgrade From 7.0.2 Standard to 8.0.1 Enterprise
Adrian, Thanks for the info. The license.properties file tip was brilliant! Worked like a charm. :-) One note for those who might be doing such an upgrade later After doing the new install, be sure to copy your CFIDE directory **before** you uninstall the old version. After the uninstall, copy the CFIDE directory back to its desired location. HTH On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Adrian Moreno wrote: To be clear, I am going from a standard installation (e.g. C:\ColdFusion7\) to a JRun installation (so I can run multiple CF instances). While I've done lots of the JRun installs from scratch, I've never moved a standard install to JRun in production. Hence my iffiness on the topic. ;-) You can leave CF7 on the server and install CF 8 (multi-instance) without a problem. When you first access the CF 8 Admin, it should find the CF7 settings and import them for you. You should be able to remove CF 7 after that since they don't share Windows service names at this point. Another option is to find your CF7 license.properties file, remove the serial number and restart CF. CF should be running as the developer version, which has full Enterprise functionality including the ability to export a CAR backup of your admin settings. Export, install CF8 and import the CAR file through the CF 8 admin. HTH, Adrian ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using session variable data to create a chart?
what Rob, i guess, has implied is: you do not need a query to make a chart. you can use cfchartdata tags to provide your session data for the chart. Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CFCookie trouble
Hi, I'm trying to make a simple cookie for testing but its not working out. I use it for log in verification. The problem is the cookie gets stored but the redirect is not happening. I use the code below. The second redirect is the problem. Instead of going to newindex.cfm its loading the loginform.cfm file. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong?: cfquery name=GetUser Datasource=#datasource# password=#pw# SELECT * FROM admin WHERE username = '#Form.UserLogin#' AND password = '#Form.password#' /cfquery cfif IsDefined(cookie.Confirmed) EQ Yes cfset session.Admin = StructNew() cfset Session.Admin.Confirmed = Yes cfheader name=location value=index.cfm cfheader statusCode=302 statusText=Document Moved cfabort /cfif cfparam name=form.UserLogin type=string cfparam name=form.Password type=string cfif GetUser.RecordCount EQ 1 cfset session.Admin = StructNew() cfset Session.Admin.Confirmed = Yes cfset Session.Admin.ContactID = GetUser.ID cfset Session.Admin.UserName = GetUser.username CFCOOKIE NAME=Check_Login VALUE=Yes EXPIRES=NEVER cfheader name=location value=newindex.cfm cfheader statusCode=302 statusText=Document Moved cfabort cfelse cfset message=We apologize but that username / password does not match our records. Please try again. cflocation url=#cgi.script_name#?message=#message# ADDTOKEN=No /cfif ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
SMS gateway not returning acknowledgment
I am using SMS to receive and enter data into my database. After successful
processing of the data, I send an acknowledgment of receipt of the data sent to
the recipient. My problem is that the acknowledgment is not being received by
the simulator even though the data sent through it is properly registered in
the database.
Interestingly, this same code worked perfectly when I was using Coldfusion MX7
but is refusing to work in Coldfusion 8.
What is wrong? TIA
Here is a working part of the code that is not working:
cfcomponent displayname=SMS Voting Listener hint=Process SMS messages.
cffunction name=onIncomingMessage output=no
cfargument name=CFEvent type=struct required=yes /
!--- Get voting data and sender number---
cfset voteResults=arguments.CFEvent.data.message /
cfset agentNumber=arguments.CFEvent.originatorID /
!--- Set up return struct with needed arguments---
cfset retValue=structNew() /
cfset retValue.command=submit /
cfset retValue.sourceAddress=arguments.CFEvent.gatewayid /
cfset retValue.destAddress=agentNumber /
!--- Break the vote string sent into its individual components using the
function ListToArray() ---
cfset resultsArray=ListToArray(#voteResults#, )
!--- Separate and add voting information to database ---
cfswitch expression=#resultsArray[1]#
..
..
..
!--- Begin processing for updating authorized polling agent list ---
cfcase value=R
cftransaction
!--- update Agent table with agents name and mobile phone number ---
cfquery datasource=#request.datasource#
INSERT INTO Agent(AgentPhoneNo, NameOfAgent)
VALUES('#agentNumber#', '#resultsArray[4]#')
/cfquery
!--- update polling station information with agents mobile phone number ---
cfquery datasource=#request.datasource#
UPDATE PollingStation
SET AgentPhoneNo = '#agentNumber#'
Where StationNo = #val(resultsArray[2])# AND
ConstituencyNo = #val(resultsArray[3])#
/cfquery
/cftransaction
!--- end of processing for a updating polling agent information ---
!--- Acknowledge reciept of polling agent information---
cfset retValue.shortMessage=Thank you , your name and phone number
has been registered /
/cfcase
cfdefaultcase
cfset retValue.shortMessage=Please resend results with the proper
format/
/cfdefaultcase
/cfswitch
!--- Send the return struct to gateway ---
cfreturn retValue /
/cffunction
/cfcomponent
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Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error
I have a resolution I think to this I have installed CF8 as a standalone server running it's own webserver on a diffrent port 8501. My next task is to individually connect IIS site definitions to CF 8 as needed which I assumen can be acheived by simply changing the application extensions associated with CF 6.1 to the CF8 install directory. I have to say the Adobe documentation could be more clear on the differences between standalone and multiserver which I do not really understand.. but here is my stab at it.. Can I assume that you use multiserver when you want multiple instances of CF running on the same instance of JRUN ? So my next question is why use this setup ? If any of you rather kind persons can point me to pages or documents that shed more light on this then I would very appreciative Gus Here is a little more information.. CF 8 doesn't support upgrading a single-server previous version of CF to a multi-server version. I recommend that you uninstall 6.1 before proceeding. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart
I am new to ColdFusion and I am having trouble understanding what is the Difference between onApplicationStart method and onRequestStart method other than the Scope. For Example what does it mean by Application? First time a user comes to your site? Does it only run once? I tried to set a Variable in the onApplicationStart method like cfset APPLICATION.ds=myDataSource/ and I get an Error when I say use it in index.cfm. Am i allowed to use this outside in other files Or anything that gets set in onApplicationStart gets passed to onApplicationEnd and thats where the variable get used? Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart
I am new to ColdFusion and I am having trouble understanding what is the Difference between onApplicationStart method and onRequestStart method other than the Scope. For Example what does it mean by Application? First time a onapplicationstart() runs when the first cfm or cfc is executed in your application. onrequeststart() runs every page request. Yes, you can set application-wide variables in onapplicationstart(). cfset application.dsn = someDSN' You can use that variable throughout your application, on all pages. index.cfm should be able to use: cfoutput#application.dsn#/cfoutput Remember, you MUST prefix the scope to the variable name when it comes to application variables. Same goes for session variables and some others. Whenever you're in doubt, dump the whole application scope on a page, like so: cfdump var=#application# Check it out and see what's there. Will ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart
OnApplicationStart runs the first time ANY user hits your site. It's commonly used for setting application variables that rarely change. Things like datasources are a good place for that or initializing a ton of cfobjects. I commonly put a cfif statement in my onRequest event to reset the application variables. like this: cffunction name=OnRequest cfif isDefined(attributes.resetVars) cfset onApplicationStart()/ /cfif /cffunction That way if you can rerun the function from any request. Steve On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Sherif Abdou [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I am new to ColdFusion and I am having trouble understanding what is the Difference between onApplicationStart method and onRequestStart method other than the Scope. For Example what does it mean by Application? First time a user comes to your site? Does it only run once? I tried to set a Variable in the onApplicationStart method like cfset APPLICATION.ds=myDataSource/ and I get an Error when I say use it in index.cfm. Am i allowed to use this outside in other files Or anything that gets set in onApplicationStart gets passed to onApplicationEnd and thats where the variable get used? Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart
I am new to ColdFusion and I am having trouble understanding what is the Difference between onApplicationStart method and onRequestStart method other than the Scope. For Example what does it mean by Application? First time a user comes to your site? Does it only run once? I tried to set a Variable in the onApplicationStart method like cfset APPLICATION.ds=myDataSource/ and I get an Error when I say use it in index.cfm. Am i allowed to use this outside in other files Or anything that gets set in onApplicationStart gets passed to onApplicationEnd and thats where the variable get used? Thanks. Hi Sherif, Welcome to the community. :) The onApplicationStart and onRequest start events are simply events which occur at a given time and aren't actually tied to any variable scopes, other than the fact that onApplicationStart executes immediately after the application scope is created. But you can do whatever you want to in that method. For example, you can create request variables in the onApplicationStart method, even though it executes before onRequestStart. So the lifespan of an application looks like this: 1. onApplicationStart 2. onSessionStart 3. onRequestStart 4. index.cfm 5. onRequestEnd 6. return to 3 (onRequestStart) and repeat 7. onSessionEnd - user timed out 8. return to 2 (onSessionStart) and repeat for other users 9. onApplicationEnd - application timed out 10. return to 1 (onApplicationStart) the next time the site is visited You can use application variables in index.cfm -- they need to be properly scoped, but if you set them in the onApplicationStart method they should be available. Your onApplicationStart method may not be executing if you haven't specified a name for your application. So your Application.cfc should look similar to this: cfcomponent cfset this.name = myapplication / cffunction name=onApplicationStart access=public cfset application.ds = myDataSource / /cffunction /cfcomponent You can also look to see what variables you have in your application scope from your index.cfm template by dumping the structure like this: cfdump var=#application# / hth -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: (ot) Best development laptop
@all...it's a foregone conclusion that I'll be getting a 17 screen. @Aaron Rouse - I'm 6' 4 and 270 pounds. An extra pound or 4 on my laptop isn't going to phase me. Especially when I'm already used to lugging around a Dell Inspiron 6000 at almost 8 pounds. @JJ - I didn't say apps, I said features. For example, I use these dozens of times a day. - Open the standard file dialog box from within any app (on the PC). + Click any file, now that file's name appears in the file name box. Useful when multiple files need the same base name. + Click any file, then hit F2 to rename a file inline. + Click any file, then CTRL + drag to duplicate that file. + Click any file, anywhere else on your computer (desktop for example), drag it into the file dialog. That file now has a new home. + Click any file, CTRL + drag it to your desktop. You now have a dupe file available to you. - I don't like the keyboard. I have big hands and I can reach nearly all the way across the keyboard on my PC with my hands in a normal typing position. Because you have to use your thumb to toggle the Apple key, it cuts my reach (in a normal typing position) by about 1/3. Those are the big ones. Really they're little ones, but they're hugely impactful to my workflow. andy -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:28 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Best development laptop I used to say this all the time until I got a Dell M90 a little over a year ago. Most people at work that have them nickname them the back breakers. The weight of it along with its power adapter and any other misc. stuff one would carry does not seem too bad at first but if you end up having to travel or walk between a lot of places you quickly realize how heavy the thing is. I do not mind the machine as far as how it performs, I think the only option they paid for was 4GB of RAM but unsure what speed machines they bought. After having it for so long I'd rather have a beefy workstation and a slimmer laptop for when I go to meetings. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'd rather deal with the additional weight, and size, of a 17 laptop than have to deal with a smaller screen. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart
Oh Ok I found what the problem is, I guess my Varaibles in the onApplicationStart got cached, so when I sent it once, launched and then I added another Variables after launched again the application variables dont' get updated. Now How would i prevent it from getting cached? -- Sherif Abdou http://VadexFX.com http://Sherifabdou.com - Original Message - From: s. isaac dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: Re: onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart I am new to ColdFusion and I am having trouble understanding what is the Difference between onApplicationStart method and onRequestStart method other than the Scope. For Example what does it mean by Application? First time a user comes to your site? Does it only run once? I tried to set a Variable in the onApplicationStart method like cfset APPLICATION.ds=myDataSource/ and I get an Error when I say use it in index.cfm. Am i allowed to use this outside in other files Or anything that gets set in onApplicationStart gets passed to onApplicationEnd and thats where the variable get used? Thanks. Hi Sherif, Welcome to the community. :) The onApplicationStart and onRequest start events are simply events which occur at a given time and aren't actually tied to any variable scopes, other than the fact that onApplicationStart executes immediately after the application scope is created. But you can do whatever you want to in that method. For example, you can create request variables in the onApplicationStart method, even though it executes before onRequestStart. So the lifespan of an application looks like this: 1. onApplicationStart 2. onSessionStart 3. onRequestStart 4. index.cfm 5. onRequestEnd 6. return to 3 (onRequestStart) and repeat 7. onSessionEnd - user timed out 8. return to 2 (onSessionStart) and repeat for other users 9. onApplicationEnd - application timed out 10. return to 1 (onApplicationStart) the next time the site is visited You can use application variables in index.cfm -- they need to be properly scoped, but if you set them in the onApplicationStart method they should be available. Your onApplicationStart method may not be executing if you haven't specified a name for your application. So your Application.cfc should look similar to this: cfcomponent cfset this.name = myapplication / cffunction name=onApplicationStart access=public cfset application.ds = myDataSource / /cffunction /cfcomponent You can also look to see what variables you have in your application scope from your index.cfm template by dumping the structure like this: cfdump var=#application# / hth -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: onApplicationStart Vs onRequestStart
The whole point of putting variables into the application scope is to cache them so you don't have to set them on every request. The reason your variables didn't get set after you added new ones was that your application had already started; OnApplicationStart doesn't run on every request. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/9/29 Sherif Abdou Oh Ok I found what the problem is, I guess my Varaibles in the onApplicationStart got cached, so when I sent it once, launched and then I added another Variables after launched again the application variables dont' get updated. Now How would i prevent it from getting cached? -- ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFCookie trouble
for one thing, you are setting one cookie, but checking for another... there are more peculiar things in your code, but let's start with this. Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Phillip Perry wrote: Hi, I'm trying to make a simple cookie for testing but its not working out. I use it for log in verification. The problem is the cookie gets stored but the redirect is not happening. I use the code below. The second redirect is the problem. Instead of going to newindex.cfm its loading the loginform.cfm file. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong?: cfquery name=GetUser Datasource=#datasource# password=#pw# SELECT * FROM admin WHERE username = '#Form.UserLogin#' AND password = '#Form.password#' /cfquery cfif IsDefined(cookie.Confirmed) EQ Yes cfset session.Admin = StructNew() cfset Session.Admin.Confirmed = Yes cfheader name=location value=index.cfm cfheader statusCode=302 statusText=Document Moved cfabort /cfif cfparam name=form.UserLogin type=string cfparam name=form.Password type=string cfif GetUser.RecordCount EQ 1 cfset session.Admin = StructNew() cfset Session.Admin.Confirmed = Yes cfset Session.Admin.ContactID = GetUser.ID cfset Session.Admin.UserName = GetUser.username CFCOOKIE NAME=Check_Login VALUE=Yes EXPIRES=NEVER cfheader name=location value=newindex.cfm cfheader statusCode=302 statusText=Document Moved cfabort cfelse cfset message=We apologize but that username / password does not match our records. Please try again. cflocation url=#cgi.script_name#?message=#message# ADDTOKEN=No /cfif ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error
I have installed CF8 as a standalone server running it's own webserver on a diffrent port 8501. My next task is to individually connect IIS site definitions to CF 8 as needed which I assumen can be acheived by simply changing the application extensions associated with CF 6.1 to the CF8 install directory. Well, not exactly. By default, CF 6.x and CF 8 use a combination of ISAPI filters and wildcard extensions; it's not as simple as changing file extension mappings. However, assuming that you want to have CF 6 work with one IIS virtual server and CF 8 work with another, you can certainly do that. Just run the web server configuration utility for each, and map it to one IIS virtual server. You might find it useful to turn off CF 8 while you're setting IIS up with CF 6, and vice versa. I have to say the Adobe documentation could be more clear on the differences between standalone and multiserver which I do not really understand.. but here is my stab at it.. Can I assume that you use multiserver when you want multiple instances of CF running on the same instance of JRUN ? So my next question is why use this setup ? There are lots of reasons why you might want to run multiple instances of CF. Here are a couple: 1. You can run different versions of CF simultaneously. 2. You can map different CF instances to different applications or virtual web servers, providing isolation so that if one fails the others keep running. 3. You can work around the memory allocation limitations of 32-bit JVMs to more efficiently use the physical memory on your servers. 4. You can cluster multiple instances to provide failover within a single physical server. 5. You can build applications for deployment as EAR files, which is a nice Java standard for web applications. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Windows 2003 + CF8 = 401.3 Error
http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/installmultiserver_3.html http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/clustering_2.html -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/9/29 Gus Denton If any of you rather kind persons can point me to pages or documents that shed more light on this then I would very appreciative ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
