Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote:
 I've always thought that all what CFQUERY was doing was to create some
 connection to the database, and then the actual content of all records
 would be read as needed during some loop on the result set.

That would be impossible for CF to do because:
- if the resultset were never used the query would never be run on the server;
- if the resultset were used multiple times the query would be run
multiple times on the server;
- the number of records would be unknown.

If you want that, declare a cursor and deal with those consequences yourself.


  SELECT armeId, armTexte
  FROM armesArmoriaux

 The query semms to take for ever. Actually, the output says:
 getArmes.recordCount = 303203
 cfquery.ExecutionTime = 614469

 More than 10 min. just to settle a result set? That does not make sense.
 Ok, armTexte is a memo field, but is CFQUERY supposed to read all of them?

I do not think 2 ms per record is all that much for Access.


 So, what the heck CF is doing within CFQUERY? Read all content? That
 does not make sense.
 Is the problem with CF, or the ODBC driver?

There is a reason the docs warn not to use ODBC But you might be
trashing memory as well..

Jochem

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Re: phpBB to Galleon migration?

2009-03-09 Thread Raymond Camden

I am not aware of anyone doing so - but if you are able to get it
working, please contact me offlist. I could include the work, or maybe
even just a description of the work, within the Galleon documentation.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Seb Duggan s...@sebduggan.com wrote:

 Has anyone ever carried out a successful migration from phpBB to
 Galleon (or even any other CF-based forum)?

 After wasting nearly a whole Sunday trying to get PHP installed and
 running on a new web server (just to transfer across an existing phpBB
 forum), I've really had enough of PHP (although it's working now.)

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Re: Cftree not working on CF 8

2009-03-09 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Friday 06 Mar 2009, N K wrote:
 I have menu list of items being displayed through CFtree using
 foramt=flash. The same code works on CF 7 but does not work on CF 8.
 Any idea what would lead  to this?

What is being output on the page ? Are all the referenced resources being 
loaded ?

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RE: CF8 Image manipulation

2009-03-09 Thread Dawson, Michael

Not sure if anyone else has posted this since I started reading this
thread...

http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/jquery-image-crop-plugin-jcrop/

Thanks,
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RE: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Billy Cox

That doesn't work because getArmes contains only a count of the records in
armesArmoriaux, not the actual records.

-Original Message-
From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:muse...@virtualtrials.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 PM
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Change it to this and the time should go down by a factor of about 100,000
:

CFQUERY NAME=getArmes DATASOURCE=Armoriaux
   SELECT count (*) as N
   FROM armesArmoriaux
/CFQUERY
CFOUTPUTgetArmes.recordCount = #getArmes.n#BR cfquery.ExecutionTime 
= #cfquery.ExecutionTime#BR/CFOUTPUTCFABORT






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Re: Compare FieldValues with DataBase Values

2009-03-09 Thread Priya Koya

I appologise if I really confused you and I am still learning the Coldfusion 
and I am unable to code in a proper way.
 
These are my ColdFuion Fields in the Coldfusion page:

FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID, DepartmentID , 
DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch

Sql Database Tables:

Table1: Employer

FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID (Primary Key)
Daniel   RayNJ   123-123-2123   1234 
Ria ParksNj  124-123-1234   1221

EmloyerID is the Primary key.

Table2: Department
DepartmentID , DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch, SNO(Unique Identifier)
12  Economics   1234NJ  111
13   Physics1234NJ  121
12  Economics   1221PA  123

EmployerID can be repeated but not SNO should be unique.

I need to do two things. 

1. Depending on the entry of the formfield values. The database tables should 
be either inserted or updated. If the row already exsist then the row should be 
inserted and if exsist row should be updated.

eg: I need to add the Chemistry DepartmentNAme to the EmployerID 1234. I need 
to check before the insert statement whether or not  the data in the table. How 
do I really check this.

2. Once the action takes place either update or delete, I need to display the 
list of the action taken place in the user session on the coldfusion page. 
Session is just the user session here.
eg:  DepartmentName for 1234 is insesrted
 Salary for 1221 has been updated
 .
 .
 .
 Hope I am very clear now...


Thanks,
Priya


 I have an issue and I am out of my mind.. to solve it.

 FieldNames:

 FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID, DepartmentID , 
 DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch

Ok, what about these field names?  Can you explain for us please?  Are these 
columns in a table?  Columns in a result set? Do you realize you have 
EmployerID in there twice??


 Table Employee
 FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID


Is EmployerID the primary key or a foreign key?  I would have expected it to 
be called EmployeeID if it were the primary key, since an employer employs 
the employee.

 Table Department
 DepartmentID , DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch


 I have a FirstName attribute in the table and I want to compare these 
 attribute (FirstName) with the fieldvalue.

What field value?? Is this in a ColdFusion page or a SQL statement?  Where 
is the fieldvalue coming from?  A form?  The Url?  In what way do you want 
to compare?  Do you want to compare a single record, or more than one?

? I thought of using arrays but I don't know how to add database date to the 
array and compare.

What is a database date?  None of the columns you have mentioned so far seem 
to have anything to do with dates.  Setting a date into an array is easy as 
cfset myArray = [now()]  but I'm not sure where you are going with this.

 I also have one more issue. I am trying to insert data into the database 
 and once the data is inserted the inserted (FirstName) should be displayed 
 (Primary Key is EmployerID).

What table is this?  The employee table?  If EmployerID is the primary key 
of the Employee table, why is that column also in the Department table?  If 
two people are in the same department, do you have two department records 
with the same department name, but different EmployerIds?  I'm quite 
confused.

 If I add n number of FirstNames in the table in the session then it should 
 display those many New entry values in the main page. How can we do it?

Is the table in session, or do you simply mean inserts into the database 
during a user's session?  So you want to have a screen that shows someone 
the records they entered since their session started?  You could store the 
data in a session variable, or store the primary key of the records they 
inserted.   I'm not sure where you are headed, but this would also be 
possible if you had a userIDModified in the table and a datetimeCreated 
column.  You could simply query out the records that user had inserted since 
the time their session started.

 Can anyone help me with this?

Probably, but we need a bit more direction on what it is you are doing.  I'm 
pretty bad at guessing.

~Brad 

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Seb Duggan

Yeah, but what are you going to do with 300,000 actual records in a  
single recordset?

In his original post, Claude never specified what the requirements of  
his CFQUERY were - if we knew what he was trying to achieve, we could  
provide better advice on how to do it...


On 9 Mar 2009, at 13:44, Billy Cox wrote:


 That doesn't work because getArmes contains only a count of the  
 records in
 armesArmoriaux, not the actual records.

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 From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:muse...@virtualtrials.com]
 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?




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Re: Cftree not working on CF 8

2009-03-09 Thread N K

Nothing is displayed.Yes all the other part of the page is being displayed.
The debugging section shows that the query is running,nothing seems to be wrong.



 On Friday 06 Mar 2009, N K wrote:
  I have menu list of items being displayed through CFtree using
  foramt=flash. The same code works on CF 7 but does not work on CF 
 8.
  Any idea what would lead  to this?
 
 What is being output on the page ? Are all the referenced resources 
 being 
 loaded ?
 
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Re: Compare FieldValues with DataBase Values

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev

one sure-fire way to check if the data exists in a table is to run a
SELECT query to select that data.
then check the recordcount of the select query - if it is 0 then no such
data exists; otherwise the data is already there.

depending on your db and exact requirements you may be able to use
db-specific ways to do it. i.e. MySQL has a ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE
clause one can use in an INSERT query which will update rows instead of
inserting new rows if specified PK value already exists in a table. but
since you seem to need to notify user of exact action taken (insert or
update) that may not be useful in your case...

Azadi Saryev
Sabai-dee.com
http://www.sabai-dee.com/



Priya Koya wrote:
 I appologise if I really confused you and I am still learning the Coldfusion 
 and I am unable to code in a proper way.
  
 These are my ColdFuion Fields in the Coldfusion page:

 FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID, DepartmentID , 
 DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch

 Sql Database Tables:

 Table1: Employer

 FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID (Primary Key)
 Daniel   RayNJ   123-123-2123   1234 
 Ria ParksNj  124-123-1234   1221

 EmloyerID is the Primary key.

 Table2: Department
 DepartmentID , DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch, SNO(Unique Identifier)
 12  Economics   1234NJ  111
 13   Physics1234NJ  121
 12  Economics   1221PA  123

 EmployerID can be repeated but not SNO should be unique.

 I need to do two things. 

 1. Depending on the entry of the formfield values. The database tables should 
 be either inserted or updated. If the row already exsist then the row should 
 be inserted and if exsist row should be updated.

 eg: I need to add the Chemistry DepartmentNAme to the EmployerID 1234. I need 
 to check before the insert statement whether or not  the data in the table. 
 How do I really check this.

 2. Once the action takes place either update or delete, I need to display the 
 list of the action taken place in the user session on the coldfusion page. 
 Session is just the user session here.
 eg:  DepartmentName for 1234 is insesrted
  Salary for 1221 has been updated
  .
  .
  .
  Hope I am very clear now...


 Thanks,
 Priya
   

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Fisher

More specifically, what are you going to do with 300,000 ntext fields ... that 
could potentially be many GB of data, which the server will be holding in 
active memory.  As a general rule, I leave my ntext fields out of any query 
that's pulling a list of more than a few items. 

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Re: Compare FieldValues with DataBase Values

2009-03-09 Thread Priya Koya

Yes, I can use select statement but I am able to display only the  latest
taction taken to the coldfusion page but not all the list of actions taken
in a user session.




On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Azadi Saryev az...@sabai-dee.com wrote:


 one sure-fire way to check if the data exists in a table is to run a
 SELECT query to select that data.
 then check the recordcount of the select query - if it is 0 then no such
 data exists; otherwise the data is already there.

 depending on your db and exact requirements you may be able to use
 db-specific ways to do it. i.e. MySQL has a ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE
 clause one can use in an INSERT query which will update rows instead of
 inserting new rows if specified PK value already exists in a table. but
 since you seem to need to notify user of exact action taken (insert or
 update) that may not be useful in your case...

 Azadi Saryev
 Sabai-dee.com
 http://www.sabai-dee.com/



 Priya Koya wrote:
  I appologise if I really confused you and I am still learning the
 Coldfusion and I am unable to code in a proper way.
 
  These are my ColdFuion Fields in the Coldfusion page:
 
  FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID, DepartmentID ,
  DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch
 
  Sql Database Tables:
 
  Table1: Employer
 
  FirstName, LastName,Address,PhoneNumber, EmployerID (Primary Key)
  Daniel   RayNJ   123-123-2123   1234
  Ria ParksNj  124-123-1234   1221
 
  EmloyerID is the Primary key.
 
  Table2: Department
  DepartmentID , DepartmentName, EmployerID, Branch, SNO(Unique Identifier)
  12  Economics   1234NJ  111
  13   Physics1234NJ  121
  12  Economics   1221PA  123
 
  EmployerID can be repeated but not SNO should be unique.
 
  I need to do two things.
 
  1. Depending on the entry of the formfield values. The database tables
 should be either inserted or updated. If the row already exsist then the row
 should be inserted and if exsist row should be updated.
 
  eg: I need to add the Chemistry DepartmentNAme to the EmployerID 1234. I
 need to check before the insert statement whether or not  the data in the
 table. How do I really check this.
 
  2. Once the action takes place either update or delete, I need to display
 the list of the action taken place in the user session on the coldfusion
 page. Session is just the user session here.
  eg:  DepartmentName for 1234 is insesrted
   Salary for 1221 has been updated
   .
   .
   .
   Hope I am very clear now...
 
 
  Thanks,
  Priya
 

 

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

  It gets a connection
from the pool, queries the DB, retrieves all the data and finally
returns the connection to the pool.

Well, I'm stunned. I was sure CF was better designed than that.
I thought that data was retrieved as loops were going.

Obviously course, with 300k records, CF is reading all data from disk, 
from a system especially designed to handle and retrieve data, put it 
back on disk, and then gets it back again into memory as loops goes. 
This is ridiculous.

Even dBase was designed to retrieve data by chunks only when needed. I 
can't believe this.

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FYI: Windows DATE/TIME Glitch affecting CF DATE/TIME Functions

2009-03-09 Thread Robert Harrison

I noticed a little Windows bug this AM that may affect some of you. My
system clock was showing the correct time, but my CF generated dates and
times were an hour off (behind an hour). This was affecting data base
postings, timestamps, etc. 

To correct this I had to turn off the systems Automatically Adjust for
Daylight Savings Time option and manually reset the system date/time to the
correct time. Apparently Windows adjusted only the clock display and not the
system date/time. 

Everyone running Windows systems may want to check this if they are using CF
date/time functions. I'm sure not all version of Windows have this issue,
but apparently some do.


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Re: FYI: Windows DATE/TIME Glitch affecting CF DATE/TIME Functions

2009-03-09 Thread James Holmes

Is your version of Java patched for the latest daylight savings dates?

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

2009/3/10 Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com:

 I noticed a little Windows bug this AM that may affect some of you. My
 system clock was showing the correct time, but my CF generated dates and
 times were an hour off (behind an hour). This was affecting data base
 postings, timestamps, etc.

 To correct this I had to turn off the systems Automatically Adjust for
 Daylight Savings Time option and manually reset the system date/time to the
 correct time. Apparently Windows adjusted only the clock display and not the
 system date/time.

 Everyone running Windows systems may want to check this if they are using CF
 date/time functions. I'm sure not all version of Windows have this issue,
 but apparently some do.


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 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
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 F : 631.434.7022
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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 I don't think this is unexpected behaviour

It is not only unexpected, it is completely retarded.
All ODBC/JDBC functions are designed so the database can be connected, 
then the SQL statement be compiled, then data retrieved row by row, as 
needed. Even dBase, Clipper, Foxpro worked this way.

 - you just need to examine what you actually require from the query

Well, I made a request to get only the record Id, it take only 6 
seconds, then I read again each record with the data I need in the loop.
I am creating an index on words found in memo fields, and I need to loop 
on all records in the table.
I'm doing this once for all on my development server, I don't care if it 
takes hours, but 10 min, just to create the query, it looked like 
infinity to me.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 There are a number of reasons why running the select directly in 
Access may
appear much faster.
1) You are probably running it locally so there is no costly transfer of
data between servers.

I'm running the CF app locally also, so the difference does not come 
from connexion time.
Anywa, the result is just a 2 lines message.

 2) In my experience, Access spools the data behind the scenes and 
only loads
in the records which are visible

Of course, and there is nothing extraordinary there : ALL database 
systems work this way. They will get the records only when needed, and 
ODBC also has also been designed in that purpose.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 Change it to this and the time should go down by a factor of about 
100,000

Thanks, you bet this is what I would have done if I only needed the 
number of records ;-)
The output of recordCount was there only for illustration purpose.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote:
 All ODBC/JDBC functions are designed so the database can be connected,
 then the SQL statement be compiled, then data retrieved row by row, as
 needed.

CF just needs all the records all the time because that is the only
way to get a recordcount.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 More specifically, what are you going to do with 300,000 ntext fields

I am creating a cross table index on word found in memo fields.
Each memo field needs some special treatment and only some specific 
words are retrieved.
So I need to simply read all records and loop on them.
I found another way to read records one at a time.
This is a one time job on a database.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 - if the resultset were never used the query would never be run on 
the server;

Well, if the result set is not used, what is the advantage of having the 
query run anyway?

 - if the resultset were used multiple times the query would be run
multiple times on the server;

If the result set is too large to fit in memory, it will be rewritten 
and reread from disk every time anyway.

 - the number of records would be unknown.

Most of the time, one only needs to know if there are records or not. 
This can be checked reading the first record only.

May be some parameter in CFQUERY (ie RECORDS=onTheFly) could be used 
to create on the fly queries. It will be up to the programmer to use it 
if he expects the query to generate lots of data.

In that sense, the parameter blockFactor in CFQUERY is missleading: it 
says Specifies the maximum number of rows to fetch at a time from the 
server. The range is 1 (default)
So I thought that CF was getting rows one at a time.
Apparently, it is getting all rows one at a time in the same time ;-)
Doesn't make much sense to me ;-)

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Dominic Watson

 CF just needs all the records all the time because that is the only
 way to get a recordcount.

While I don't think that is quite true, I do think there is a good
reason for having the resultset downloaded at once. ColdFusion expects
you to use the recordset within the single request and this differs
from an offline application where it can make sense to keep a
connection open to a resultset.

Indeed, while the initial query may take longer, it is perhaps better
performing than hitting the db on each iteration within the request.
Thoughts?

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev

just out of curiosity:
did you try experimenting with BLOCKFACTOR attribute of cfquery?
i am just curious, since you already are retrieving such a large
dataset, if using blockfactor makes any difference at all on processing
time...

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Claude Schneegans wrote:
  Change it to this and the time should go down by a factor of about 
 100,000

 Thanks, you bet this is what I would have done if I only needed the 
 number of records ;-)
 The output of recordCount was there only for illustration purpose.


   

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Re: Compare FieldValues with DataBase Values

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev

that's because you are probably over-writing some variable you created
to hold the action with each subsequent action...
use an array or structure to hold all your action, append each new
action taken to this array/structure, then loop over it to display all
actions taken

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Priya Koya wrote:
 Yes, I can use select statement but I am able to display only the  latest
 taction taken to the coldfusion page but not all the list of actions taken
 in a user session.


   

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Fisher

IIRC, blockFactor is only relevant on the Oracle drivers, and it refers 
specifically to how Oracle expects to batch and return large recordsets.  If 
Oracle is allowed to spool out large recordsets without returning them in 
blocks, it will often spin the DB server out of threads, which then cascades to 
the waiting app threads ... and then things die.  Blockfactor, therefore, 
controls how the DB server batch responds to the request, but it does not 
impact how CF brings data back into its CFQUERY struct. 

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Re: Compare FieldValues with DataBase Values

2009-03-09 Thread Brad Wood

Yes, that was much clearer.  Thank you  :)

Are you using the cfapplication tag in your application?  Do you have 
session management enabled?

If so, you can keep a list of the user's operations in a session variable.

cfset session.array_of_user_actions = arrayNew(1)
cfset arrayAppend(session.array_of_user_actions,User Inserted Record A)
cfset arrayAppend(session.array_of_user_actions,User Updated Record B)
cfset arrayAppend(session.array_of_user_actions,User Scratched His Head)

This would create an array that you could append to as you saw fit with the 
user's actions.  I don't neccessarily think it's the best way to audit your 
users actions, but it would work.

Session variables do not get deleted at the end of your page request.  They 
will be available on each subsequent request from the same user providing 
his session has not timed out.

h3User's Activity During This Session/h3
cfloop array=#session.array_of_user_actions# index=this_action
#this_action#br
/cfloop


As far as knowing whether you are inserting or updating-- Generally when a 
user is updating a record, he selects it from some list and you populate the 
values for it into a form.  At that point simply place the primary key from 
that table in a hidden field in the form.  When you submit the form, the 
processing page can look for the existence of that hidden form field.  If 
the primary key was passed, it's an update, otherwise it's an insert.

~Brad

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 Yes, I can use select statement but I am able to display only the  latest
 taction taken to the coldfusion page but not all the list of actions taken
 in a user session.

 

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 because that is the only way to get a recordcount.

A big price in efficiency to pay for something we use only sometimes.
Most of the time, we only need to know if there are records or not.


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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread John M Bliss

If that's all you need to know, use SELECT TOP 1...

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Claude Schneegans 
schneeg...@internetique.com wrote:


  because that is the only way to get a recordcount.

 A big price in efficiency to pay for something we use only sometimes.
 Most of the time, we only need to know if there are records or not.


 

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Re: FYI: Windows DATE/TIME Glitch affecting CF DATE/TIME Functions

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Kelly

Is your version of Java patched for the latest daylight savings dates?

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Seb Duggan

What we are really talking about here is having the right tool for the  
job.

dBase, Clipper and FoxPro are all database management systems, and so  
are designed to work efficiently in examples like the one you are  
citing.

ColdFusion is a Web Application server, designed to interact with a  
database to deliver web content. By the very nature of Web  
applications, you wouldn't want to be leaving open database  
connections all over the place - the surest way to crash a server  
under heavy load...

Really, all the heavy lifting should be done within the database  
itself; but out of preference I don't think I'd be using Acces for this!

However, you can do what you want using ColdFusion; I've done similar  
stuff in the past when the updating has required extra ColdFusion  
logic. I would just recommend doing it in chunks of data - maybe 5000  
records at a time? Grab the first 5000 records; process them; then do  
the next 5000...


 I don't think this is unexpected behaviour

 It is not only unexpected, it is completely retarded.
 All ODBC/JDBC functions are designed so the database can be connected,
 then the SQL statement be compiled, then data retrieved row by row, as
 needed. Even dBase, Clipper, Foxpro worked this way.


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Re: Compare FieldValues with DataBase Values

2009-03-09 Thread Priya Koya

ohh yes.. Thanks a lot.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Azadi Saryev az...@sabai-dee.com wrote:


 that's because you are probably over-writing some variable you created
 to hold the action with each subsequent action...
 use an array or structure to hold all your action, append each new
 action taken to this array/structure, then loop over it to display all
 actions taken

 Azadi Saryev
 Sabai-dee.com
 http://www.sabai-dee.com/



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  Yes, I can use select statement but I am able to display only the  latest
  taction taken to the coldfusion page but not all the list of actions
 taken
  in a user session.
 
 
 

 

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 Indeed, while the initial query may take longer, it is perhaps better
performing than hitting the db on each iteration within the request.
Thoughts?

Perfectly right for small result sets.
But as soon as the virtual memory must be used, each record will 
generate some read-write-reread action, pretty bad on performance indeed.

IMHO, CF should should be able to buffer the record set, ie. read a 
certain number of records until a certain amount of memory is full, then 
do as usual if the whole record set fits in memory, and read the next 
buffer when needed.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 did you try experimenting with BLOCKFACTOR attribute of cfquery?
i am just curious, since you already are retrieving such a large
dataset, if using blockfactor makes any difference at all on processing
time...

The blockfactor is supposed to be one by default, but I tried it anyway, 
and no, it makes no difference.
The blockfactor is either serving some other purpose and then not 
properly documented, or it is inoperant.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 blockFactor is only relevant on the Oracle drivers

CF 5 doc says This parameter applies to ORACLE native database drivers 
and to ODBC drivers

This is ambiguous, If it applies only to Oracle, it should be stated:
This parameter applies to ORACLE native database drivers and to ORACLE 
ODBC drivers

And CF 7 : Might not be supported by some database systems. with no 
other details.
IMO everything but ORACLE should not be called some database systems 
either... ;-/

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Removing I.E. (At least the visible parts) doesn't break Windows after all?

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090307/D96OSS8G1.html

Microsoft to let PC users turn off IE Web browser
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A single check box deep in the guts of the next version of Windows is 
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Cflayoutarea Question.

2009-03-09 Thread Matthew Allen

Hi,

This is my first ever foray into ajax in CF. If I have a set up as below;

cflayoutarea position=center name=center
   a href=## onclick=ColdFusion.navigate('page.cfm?id=#id#')nav 1/a
/cflayoutarea
cflayoutarea position=center name=center
   cflayoutarea title=TAB1 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /  
   cflayoutarea title=TAB2 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /
 
/cflayoutarea

What do I do to make TAB2 opens when I click on the link, at the moment TAB2 
does not open until I click on the TAB2 tab.

Thanks,

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WRONG LIST was Re: Removing I.E. (At least the visible parts) doesn't break Windows after all?

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner

Ian Skinner wrote:

Stuff I meant to post to the community list.



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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote:
  - if the resultset were never used the query would never be run on
 the server;

 Well, if the result set is not used, what is the advantage of having the
 query run anyway?

A select isn't necessarily idempotent (if CF were able to determine it
was a select in the first place)..


  - if the resultset were used multiple times the query would be run
 multiple times on the server;

 If the result set is too large to fit in memory, it will be rewritten
 and reread from disk every time anyway.

But if the query isn't deterministic you wouldn't necessarily get the
same results each time.


 May be some parameter in CFQUERY (ie RECORDS=onTheFly) could be used
 to create on the fly queries. It will be up to the programmer to use it
 if he expects the query to generate lots of data.

I'm not really interested in such a parameter, but if you submit it as
a feature request you should consider naming it usecursor or
something. That explains the way it would work much better.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote:

  because that is the only way to get a recordcount.

 A big price in efficiency to pay for something we use only sometimes.
 Most of the time, we only need to know if there are records or not.

That is what maxrows is for. The query will still execute to
completion on the database server, but CF will stop fetching results
after it has reached its maximum.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Dominic Watson wrote:
 CF just needs all the records all the time because that is the only
 way to get a recordcount.

 While I don't think that is quite true

It is not strictly true. You can declare a cursor, do a move end, read
from the metadata how many records you moved forward, then do a move
start and wait for the commands to fetch rows. But that is hardly
portable and will perform even worse then just fetching everything
into a detached recordset on the client.

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev

if cf did not get the full dataset from the db, would it still be able
to show query debugging / execution times / etc, and would cf monitor
still work and be able to show you long-running/unoptimized queries / etc?

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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 (if CF were able to determine it was a select in the first place)

Well, it must be able somehow to determine the query returns data, 
otherwise, how would it create a structure from any result set?

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CF Structures.. brain fried

2009-03-09 Thread Scott Stewart

I've got a query that returns two fields for each record (id, name). There
can be several records returned

Because of the way that the site is set up I need to dump the results into
the session scope and then loop over them on an output page

 

I think I over complicated it by using Ben Nadel's QueryToStruct script. 

 

Is there a simple way to do this?

 

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RE: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread brad

A cfquery tag can potentially contain any number of SQL commands which
may or may not return a result set.  CF doesn't do any parsing of the
SQL contained within, it just runs it.  (The only exception being the
SELECT, UPDATE, DELETE, DROP etc security set up in your datasource
settings-- but that's not bullet proof)

Regardless, CF wouldn't know if the cfquery was going to return a result
set until after it had sent the commands to the database for execution
and waited for the results to come back, and that would sort of defeat
the purpose, wouldn't it?

~Brad

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?
From: Claude Schneegans schneeg...@internetique.com
Date: Mon, March 09, 2009 1:11 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


 (if CF were able to determine it was a select in the first place)

Well, it must be able somehow to determine the query returns data, 
otherwise, how would it create a structure from any result set?




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Re: CF Structures.. brain fried

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Griefer

not seeing the need to convert the query to a struct.
cfset session.myQuery = myQuery /

cfoutput query=session.myQuery
 #session.myQuery.ID# #session.myQuery.name#br /
 (or, if you don't want to fully qualify the names...)
 #ID# #name#br /
/cfoutput

depending on how your app is structured, you may need to do some checking
before placing the query into the session.  maybe something like:

cfif not structKeyExists(session, 'myQuery')
 cfset session.myQuery = myQuery /
/cfif

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Scott Stewart sstwebwo...@bellsouth.netwrote:


 I've got a query that returns two fields for each record (id, name). There
 can be several records returned

 Because of the way that the site is set up I need to dump the results into
 the session scope and then loop over them on an output page



 I think I over complicated it by using Ben Nadel's QueryToStruct script.



 Is there a simple way to do this?



 --
 Scott Stewart
 ColdFusion Developer
 4405 Oakshyre Way
 Raleigh, NC 27616
 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835





 

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RE: CF Structures.. brain fried

2009-03-09 Thread Josh Nathanson

Probably you can just assign the query to a session variable:

cfset session.myQuery = myQuery /

Then output the query:

cfoutput query=session.myQuery
!--- do stuff ---
/cfoutput

You don't need to change the query itself into structures.

-- Josh



-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:33 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF Structures.. brain fried


I've got a query that returns two fields for each record (id, name). There
can be several records returned

Because of the way that the site is set up I need to dump the results into
the session scope and then loop over them on an output page

 

I think I over complicated it by using Ben Nadel's QueryToStruct script. 

 

Is there a simple way to do this?

 

--
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ColdFusion Developer
4405 Oakshyre Way
Raleigh, NC 27616
(h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835

 





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RE: CF Structures.. brain fried

2009-03-09 Thread Scott Stewart

Charlie, Josh

This worked perfectly... I didn't know that you just dump the query into the
session scope

Thanks a million

sas

--
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ColdFusion Developer
4405 Oakshyre Way
Raleigh, NC 27616
(h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF Structures.. brain fried


not seeing the need to convert the query to a struct.
cfset session.myQuery = myQuery /

cfoutput query=session.myQuery
 #session.myQuery.ID# #session.myQuery.name#br /
 (or, if you don't want to fully qualify the names...)
 #ID# #name#br /
/cfoutput

depending on how your app is structured, you may need to do some checking
before placing the query into the session.  maybe something like:

cfif not structKeyExists(session, 'myQuery')
 cfset session.myQuery = myQuery /
/cfif

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Scott Stewart
sstwebwo...@bellsouth.netwrote:


 I've got a query that returns two fields for each record (id, name). There
 can be several records returned

 Because of the way that the site is set up I need to dump the results into
 the session scope and then loop over them on an output page



 I think I over complicated it by using Ben Nadel's QueryToStruct script.



 Is there a simple way to do this?



 --
 Scott Stewart
 ColdFusion Developer
 4405 Oakshyre Way
 Raleigh, NC 27616
 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835





 



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Re: Cflayoutarea Question.

2009-03-09 Thread Jose Diaz

hi matt,

the coldfusion.naviagte function takes a paramater where you can post and
pass the tab name that you wish to post to. I think Ray did a good example a
while back.

It is documented in the docs, sorry I cant check at the moment I'm in the
car stuck in traffic using my phone lol.

Thanks

Jose Diaz

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Matthew Allen a.matthe...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Hi,

 This is my first ever foray into ajax in CF. If I have a set up as below;

 cflayoutarea position=center name=center
   a href=## onclick=ColdFusion.navigate('page.cfm?id=#id#')nav 1/a
 /cflayoutarea
 cflayoutarea position=center name=center
   cflayoutarea title=TAB1 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /
   cflayoutarea title=TAB2 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /
 /cflayoutarea

 What do I do to make TAB2 opens when I click on the link, at the moment
 TAB2 does not open until I click on the TAB2 tab.

 Thanks,

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Re: CF Structures.. brain fried

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner

Scott Stewart wrote:
 Charlie, Josh

 This worked perfectly... I didn't know that you just dump the query into the
 session scope

You can dump anything into the session scope.


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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans

 Regardless, CF wouldn't know if the cfquery was going to return a result
set until after it had sent the commands to the database for execution
and waited for the results to come back, and that would sort of defeat
the purpose, wouldn't it?

No, because the driver does not return the result set, but only the 
presence of a result set.
It is then up to the application to get rows one by one:
See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms711012(VS.85).aspx
In particular: If the statement is a SELECT statement, the application 
calls a CLI function to return the results in application buffers. 
Typically, this function returns one row or one column of data at a time.

At least, this is how it works for ODBC, with native drivers, I don't know.

Furthermore, if it is a SELECT statement, and if the application calls 
a CLI function to return the results, one may suppose that the 
application must know one way or another that there is some result set 
to get.



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Re: CF Structures.. brain fried

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner

Scott Stewart wrote:
 Charlie, Josh

 This worked perfectly... I didn't know that you just dump the query into the
 session scope

You can dump anything into the session scope.


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Table with Fixed side columns instead of fixed headers

2009-03-09 Thread Brian Yager

Has anyone done this before?   I have an application that is like Microsoft 
Project.  It shows a list of organizations on the left side and the dates (by 
day) to the right.  The calendar is a set amount (ex.. October 2008 - August 
2010).  When the user scrolls to the right, I need the organization names to be 
visible.  I could do this with seperate tables, but would rather see if I could 
freeze the left side like you can do with the top.

Thanks!

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tzupdater trouble

2009-03-09 Thread Donnie Snyder

I am running MX7 on a linux server (ES4) and I am having trouble installing the 
DST patch tzupdater.jar. The java community seems to think its a result of the 
version of java I am running. (gnu.gcj). How do I go about updating the version 
of java I have. Just download and install it? Change any settings in CF? Any 
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


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Re: Table with Fixed side columns instead of fixed headers

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner

Brian Yager wrote:
 Has anyone done this before?

Yes, if you don't have to support I.E. 6, never tried it with I.E. 7 or 
8 this was before those existed.  But I know longer have access to that 
code and only the vaguest idea that I did get it to work once.

To make it work in I.E. 6, I ended up breaking the left header column 
into a separate table and just did some jury rigging to make all the 
rows the same height.





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Re: Table with Fixed side columns instead of fixed headers

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner

Brian Yager wrote:
 Has anyone done this before?

Yes, if you don't have to support I.E. 6, never tried it with I.E. 7 or 
8 this was before those existed.  But I know longer have access to that 
code and only the vaguest idea that I did get it to work once in Firefox 
type compliant browsers.

To make it work in I.E. 6, I ended up breaking the left header column 
into a separate table and just did some jury rigging to make all the 
rows the same height.





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Re: Cflayoutarea Question.

2009-03-09 Thread Matthew

Thanks Jose, that was my thought also, I've tried all possible parameters of 
coldfusion.navigate, nothing seem to work, I'm sure I'm missing something very 
obvious, anyone? 

Thanks,

Matt.

On 9 Mar 2009, at 19:13, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote:


hi matt,

the coldfusion.naviagte function takes a paramater where you can post and
pass the tab name that you wish to post to. I think Ray did a good example a
while back.

It is documented in the docs, sorry I cant check at the moment I'm in the
car stuck in traffic using my phone lol.

Thanks

Jose Diaz

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Matthew Allen a.matthe...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hi,

This is my first ever foray into ajax in CF. If I have a set up as below;

cflayoutarea position=center name=center
 a href=## onclick=ColdFusion.navigate('page.cfm?id=#id#')nav 1/a
/cflayoutarea
cflayoutarea position=center name=center
 cflayoutarea title=TAB1 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /
 cflayoutarea title=TAB2 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /
/cflayoutarea

What do I do to make TAB2 opens when I click on the link, at the moment
TAB2 does not open until I click on the TAB2 tab.

Thanks,

Matt






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RE: CF8 Image manipulation

2009-03-09 Thread Terry Troxel

Michael,
Thanks for the reply.
I already have that handled and it works great.
I am drawing autocad type drawings using the new cf8 image tools and I was
trying to find an easy way to add perspective, but now I am just going to
force the user to be a little more precise by letting them define 3 points
after they upload their photo along with the exact distances, then I can
scale my drawings perfectly to their dimensions and problem solved.
Coldfusion comes through again like always and thanks to everyone in CF-Talk
as usual as you always start the juices flowing.

Terry Troxel

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Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:26 AM
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Subject: RE: CF8 Image manipulation


Not sure if anyone else has posted this since I started reading this
thread...

http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/jquery-image-crop-plugin-jcrop/

Thanks,
Mike




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Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Mike Chabot

It seems like you know a bit about databases. Why not write the
looping code in the database using T-SQL, VB, or .NET and keep CF out
of the picture entirely? What is CF providing that makes you want to
use it for this index building task? It doesn't sound like you are
serving up Web pages to users with this code, which is what CF is
designed to do.

-Mike Chabot

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Re: Cflayoutarea Question.

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev

CF has a built-in ColdFusion.Layout.selectTab() function.
read the docs for more info.

Azadi Saryev
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Matthew Allen wrote:
 Hi,

 This is my first ever foray into ajax in CF. If I have a set up as below;

 cflayoutarea position=center name=center
a href=## onclick=ColdFusion.navigate('page.cfm?id=#id#')nav 1/a
 /cflayoutarea
 cflayoutarea position=center name=center
cflayoutarea title=TAB1 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /  
cflayoutarea title=TAB2 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /  
  
 /cflayoutarea

 What do I do to make TAB2 opens when I click on the link, at the moment TAB2 
 does not open until I click on the TAB2 tab.

 Thanks,

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Re: Cflayoutarea Question.

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev

the code you posted is invalid (probably just bad copy-paste?), so i
will post working code for the test case:

cflayout name=borders type=border
cflayoutarea name=center position=left style=width:100px;
   cfoutputa href=##
onclick=ColdFusion.navigate('page.cfm?id=#id#',
'feedTabTwo');ColdFusion.Layout.selectTab('tabs', 'feedTabTwo');nav
1/a/cfoutput
/cflayoutarea
cflayoutarea name=center2 position=center
cflayout name=tabs type=tab
   cflayoutarea title=TAB1 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden / 
   cflayoutarea title=TAB2 name=feedTabTwo overflow=hidden /
/cflayout
/cflayoutarea
/cflayout

hth

Azadi Saryev
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Matthew Allen wrote:
 Hi,

 This is my first ever foray into ajax in CF. If I have a set up as below;

 cflayoutarea position=center name=center
a href=## onclick=ColdFusion.navigate('page.cfm?id=#id#')nav 1/a
 /cflayoutarea
 cflayoutarea position=center name=center
cflayoutarea title=TAB1 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /  
cflayoutarea title=TAB2 name=feedTabOne overflow=hidden /  
  
 /cflayoutarea

 What do I do to make TAB2 opens when I click on the link, at the moment TAB2 
 does not open until I click on the TAB2 tab.

 Thanks,

 Matt
   

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