Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Kym Kovan]

On 26/02/2010 17:43, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> And there is a quirk that I did not know. Interesting, I've never
> before seen / in an inheritance declaration. Do you know if this
> follows the Java standard or is this a CF-only thing?

CF certainly.

its a bit old but still relevant:

http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Extending_Your_Root_Applicationcfc



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Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Judah McAuley]

And there is a quirk that I did not know. Interesting, I've never
before seen / in an inheritance declaration. Do you know if this
follows the Java standard or is this a CF-only thing?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Michael Dinowitz
 wrote:
>
> That works until the cfc being extended (parent) has the same name as
> the cfc doing the extending (child). If I have an application.cfc in
> the blog directory and I want it to extend the application.cfc that's
> in the root, I have to use "/.application"
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Matt Quackenbush  
> wrote:
>>
>> When requesting a CFC (either by createObject() or extends=""), you must
>> supply a dot-notated path that is absolute to the web root.  For instance...
>>
>> - /wwwroot
>>   baseapp.cfc
>> - - /blog
>>     myclass.cfc
>>
>> For /blog/myclass.cfc to extend /baseapp.cfc it would be...
>>
>> extends="baseapp"
>>
>> You could, of course, use a mapping, but that just makes a path outside the
>> web root accessible (by CF internally) as though its residence was inside
>> the web root.  In other words, you'd still be calling an absolute path.
>>
>> The bottom line is, relative paths do not work with CFCs.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Michael Dinowitz]

That works until the cfc being extended (parent) has the same name as
the cfc doing the extending (child). If I have an application.cfc in
the blog directory and I want it to extend the application.cfc that's
in the root, I have to use "/.application"


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Matt Quackenbush  wrote:
>
> When requesting a CFC (either by createObject() or extends=""), you must
> supply a dot-notated path that is absolute to the web root.  For instance...
>
> - /wwwroot
>   baseapp.cfc
> - - /blog
>     myclass.cfc
>
> For /blog/myclass.cfc to extend /baseapp.cfc it would be...
>
> extends="baseapp"
>
> You could, of course, use a mapping, but that just makes a path outside the
> web root accessible (by CF internally) as though its residence was inside
> the web root.  In other words, you'd still be calling an absolute path.
>
> The bottom line is, relative paths do not work with CFCs.
>
> HTH
>
>
> 

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Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Kym Kovan]

On 26/02/2010 16:42, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>
> I'm just looking for verification on what I know about extending cfcs
> in the cfcomponent tag.
>
> Lets say for example I have a component called baseapp.cfc sitting in
> the web root. I also have an application.cfc in a directory named
> /blog. If I want the application.cfc to extend the baseapp.cfc,

I was under the (possibly wrong) impression that the behaviour is 
different when dealing with application.cfc.


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Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Michael Dinowitz]

>>    extends="/.baseapp"
>
> I haven't actually seen a forward slash used in any component paths, I
> don't believe it is allowed. It should be a dot delimited path from
> the webroot, so if your baseapp.cfc is in the directory blog under the
> webroot, it should be referred to as blog.baseapp

It's allowed and from what I know its the only way to reference a cfc
sitting in the web root. My example had the baseapp.cfc sitting in the
web root, not in a subdirectory.

> However, this second part is where Dependency Injection frameworks come in.

I'm updating my "From UDFs to CFCs" article to CF9 for the book and it
deals with the core concepts. No frameworks (yet). 

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Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Judah McAuley]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Michael Dinowitz
 wrote:
>
> I'm just looking for verification on what I know about extending cfcs
> in the cfcomponent tag.
>
> Lets say for example I have a component called baseapp.cfc sitting in
> the web root. I also have an application.cfc in a directory named
> /blog. If I want the application.cfc to extend the baseapp.cfc, I have
> to use the following syntax:
>    extends="/.baseapp"

I haven't actually seen a forward slash used in any component paths, I
don't believe it is allowed. It should be a dot delimited path from
the webroot, so if your baseapp.cfc is in the directory blog under the
webroot, it should be referred to as blog.baseapp

> I didn't see anything in CF9 to change the need for this syntax. Is it
> possible I missed something? Is there a better way other than creating
> a mapping in the CF Admin or moving the extended file out of the root
> dir?
>
> Along the same lines of thought, is there a way to extend a component
> without knowing it's exact location? Lets say that the blog directory
> is now a subdirectory of /myapps. I want an application.cfc that is in
> /myapps/blog/admin to extend the application.cfc sitting one level up
> in /myapps/blog. I don't know if the blog directory is in the root of
> the site, in myapps, or in some other location. All I know is that the
> application.cfc I want to extend is one directory up. Is there a way
> to do relative inheritance?
>
> I expect the answer is no.
>
> Just double/triple/quadruple checking the basics of inheritance in ColdFusion.

As far as I'm aware, CF only does inheritance the way you have
covered, either through mappings or references relative to webroot.
However, this second part is where Dependency Injection frameworks
come in. With a DI framework (like Coldspring or Lightwire) you can
set up aliases and pathing and such and just tell your objects "go
fetch this thing and make sure that it is all properly set up". I use
the DI container baked into Coldbox so I'm not 100% up to speed on the
syntax for Coldspring and Lightwire, but I know they will do it.

I should mention, however, that as far as I'm aware, DI frameworks
don't really do inheritance, they do composition. There is a whole
school of discussion much greater than I about the merits of
inheritance vs composition, but most people seem to favor composition
over inheritance when possible. So, depending on your particular
situation, you might find that a framework like Coldspring will solve
all your problems in a very elegant fashion without having to resort
to inheritance.

Cheers,
Jud

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Re: cfcomponent inheritance path

[Matt Quackenbush]

When requesting a CFC (either by createObject() or extends=""), you must
supply a dot-notated path that is absolute to the web root.  For instance...

- /wwwroot
   baseapp.cfc
- - /blog
 myclass.cfc

For /blog/myclass.cfc to extend /baseapp.cfc it would be...

extends="baseapp"

You could, of course, use a mapping, but that just makes a path outside the
web root accessible (by CF internally) as though its residence was inside
the web root.  In other words, you'd still be calling an absolute path.

The bottom line is, relative paths do not work with CFCs.

HTH


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cfcomponent inheritance path

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'm just looking for verification on what I know about extending cfcs
in the cfcomponent tag.

Lets say for example I have a component called baseapp.cfc sitting in
the web root. I also have an application.cfc in a directory named
/blog. If I want the application.cfc to extend the baseapp.cfc, I have
to use the following syntax:
extends="/.baseapp"

I didn't see anything in CF9 to change the need for this syntax. Is it
possible I missed something? Is there a better way other than creating
a mapping in the CF Admin or moving the extended file out of the root
dir?

Along the same lines of thought, is there a way to extend a component
without knowing it's exact location? Lets say that the blog directory
is now a subdirectory of /myapps. I want an application.cfc that is in
/myapps/blog/admin to extend the application.cfc sitting one level up
in /myapps/blog. I don't know if the blog directory is in the root of
the site, in myapps, or in some other location. All I know is that the
application.cfc I want to extend is one directory up. Is there a way
to do relative inheritance?

I expect the answer is no.

Just double/triple/quadruple checking the basics of inheritance in ColdFusion.

Thanks

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Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites

[Judah McAuley]

The big caveat here, for me, is that IIS7 and Apache do
rewriting...but just a bit differently. Just enough, as always, to
make me want to tear my hair out.

If you aren't doing rewriting, then that simplifies matters significantly.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Charlie Griefer
 wrote:
>
> While I do advocate keeping your development setup as close to the
> production setup as possible, I've always used Apache locally, even if I was
> using IIS remotely.  Made it easier to do things like multiple sites and
> setting up the .dev sites as outlined above and in the blog entry i linked
> above.
>
> I believe that nowadays IIS does the multiple sites thing.  If that's the
> case, you should still be able to set up the foo.dev and bar.dev sites in
> IIS, which gives you the equivalent of top level domains, even though
> they're subdirectories within your webroot.
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jeff U  wrote:
>
>>
>> Definitely should have included that.  WinXP, IIS, CF9 Development Server,
>> used built-in webserver.  Prefer to keep it that way for simplicity sake.
>>  Thanks guys.
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites

[Charlie Griefer]

While I do advocate keeping your development setup as close to the
production setup as possible, I've always used Apache locally, even if I was
using IIS remotely.  Made it easier to do things like multiple sites and
setting up the .dev sites as outlined above and in the blog entry i linked
above.

I believe that nowadays IIS does the multiple sites thing.  If that's the
case, you should still be able to set up the foo.dev and bar.dev sites in
IIS, which gives you the equivalent of top level domains, even though
they're subdirectories within your webroot.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jeff U  wrote:

>
> Definitely should have included that.  WinXP, IIS, CF9 Development Server,
> used built-in webserver.  Prefer to keep it that way for simplicity sake.
>  Thanks guys.
>
> 

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Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites

[Jeff U]

Definitely should have included that.  WinXP, IIS, CF9 Development Server, used 
built-in webserver.  Prefer to keep it that way for simplicity sake.  Thanks 
guys. 

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Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites

[Charlie Griefer]

I do it like this guy does it:

http://www.boyzoid.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/12/14/How-Do-You-Set-Up-Your-Development-Environment

Basically,
set up a virtual host thru apache for each site, with a .dev naming
convention.

So if I have 2 sites that would be www.foo.com and www.bar.com in
production, they're foo.dev and bar.dev locally.

And yes, that would require entries into your hosts file for foo.dev and
bar.dev :)

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jeff U  wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I've got a new local environment setup and I've got multiple projects in
> folders off the root.
>
> http://localhost:8500/projectAAA/index.cfm
> http://localhost:8500/projectBBB/index.cfm  and so forth
>
> These projects then sit production wise on:
> www.projectAAA.com
> www.projectBBB.com  (note: root level, not in a sub-folder like LOCAL)
>
> Is there anyway in my local environment that I can create something like:
> http://local.projectAAA.com/ hitting the content in the /projectAAA/
> folder.
>
> I'm hoping I can create all links RELATIVE and that way they work both
> locally as well as on production with no code changes what-so-ever.
>
> I hope I explained that right.  I believe my HOSTS file isn't the answer as
> that can't forward to ports. Suggestions??
>
> only other idea I had was to make links look like:  href="#baseURL#link.cfm">link.
>
> where:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> but that seems like a ugly code solution.
>
> Appreciate any help this list can provide!
>
>
> 

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Re: Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites

[Alan Rother]

What is your dev setup?

ex.

Win7 Pro, WinXP, Mac, Linux

IIS, Apache, JRUN



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Jeff U  wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I've got a new local environment setup and I've got multiple projects in
> folders off the root.
>
> http://localhost:8500/projectAAA/index.cfm
> http://localhost:8500/projectBBB/index.cfm  and so forth
>
> These projects then sit production wise on:
> www.projectAAA.com
> www.projectBBB.com  (note: root level, not in a sub-folder like LOCAL)
>
> Is there anyway in my local environment that I can create something like:
> http://local.projectAAA.com/ hitting the content in the /projectAAA/
> folder.
>
> I'm hoping I can create all links RELATIVE and that way they work both
> locally as well as on production with no code changes what-so-ever.
>
> I hope I explained that right.  I believe my HOSTS file isn't the answer as
> that can't forward to ports. Suggestions??
>
> only other idea I had was to make links look like:  href="#baseURL#link.cfm">link.
>
> where:
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> but that seems like a ugly code solution.
>
> Appreciate any help this list can provide!
>
>
> 

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Local DEV setup, multiple projects/websites

[Jeff U]

Hello,
I've got a new local environment setup and I've got multiple projects in 
folders off the root.

http://localhost:8500/projectAAA/index.cfm
http://localhost:8500/projectBBB/index.cfm  and so forth

These projects then sit production wise on:
www.projectAAA.com
www.projectBBB.com  (note: root level, not in a sub-folder like LOCAL)

Is there anyway in my local environment that I can create something like:
http://local.projectAAA.com/ hitting the content in the /projectAAA/ folder.

I'm hoping I can create all links RELATIVE and that way they work both locally 
as well as on production with no code changes what-so-ever.

I hope I explained that right.  I believe my HOSTS file isn't the answer as 
that can't forward to ports. Suggestions??

only other idea I had was to make links look like: link.

where:

  

  

but that seems like a ugly code solution.

Appreciate any help this list can provide!


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Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Cameron Childress]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Andrew Scott  wrote:
> nope still down here.. Maybe it was a DNS issue that needs to propagate
> fully still.

I suspect it is.  I also host with John and I know he's been moving
some IP/DNS stuff around lately.

-Cameron

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RE: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[brad]

Works for me.  www.merlinmanager.com resolves to 12.129.101.69 for me.

The firewall looks like it discards WAN pings, but port 80 is open and
responding.

~Brad


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Subject: Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public
From: Andrew Scott 
Date: Thu, February 25, 2010 5:45 pm
To: cf-talk 


nope still down here.. Maybe it was a DNS issue that needs to propagate
fully still.



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Re: Custom 404 Page

[Matt Robertson]

ColdFusion has a place to designate a special 404 handler in the
Administrator.  In IIS you tell it not to check to ensure CFM pages
exist and then CF will handle all 404's according to your
instructions.

If IIS is handing off a 404 to a .cfm page, isn't that page just a
dumb page that doesn't execute any CF?  I have to admit I haven't
tried it that way in a *long* time so I don't remember..

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Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Andrew Scott]

nope still down here.. Maybe it was a DNS issue that needs to propagate
fully still.


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Cameron Childress 
> wrote:
> > I've pinged John Mason, the author of the project.  I suspect it will
> > be back online soon.
>
> FYI - it's back up.
>
> http://www.merlinmanager.com
>
> -Cameron
>
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Re: Best subversion repository

[Greg Luce]

Unfuddle is very slick. The free account is perfect for little adhoc
projects and the corresponding bug tracker and mylyn connector work nicely.

Greg



On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> Ditto.  I've used them for a number of different projects, and they
> are excellent.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Nick Gleason 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > We user Codesign (formerly CVS dude).  There are several different
> pricing
> > levels but they are all pretty affordable.  We've had a very good
> experience
> > with them.  When there was a small billing mix up a while back, the CEO
> > himself got involved and straightened it out.  I was impressed with that
> > level of service.  I know that they include a bunch of other developer
> tools
> > as well, but we have only used SVN with them.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Best subversion repository

[Maureen]

Ditto.  I've used them for a number of different projects, and they
are excellent.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Nick Gleason  wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> We user Codesign (formerly CVS dude).  There are several different pricing
> levels but they are all pretty affordable.  We've had a very good experience
> with them.  When there was a small billing mix up a while back, the CEO
> himself got involved and straightened it out.  I was impressed with that
> level of service.  I know that they include a bunch of other developer tools
> as well, but we have only used SVN with them.
>
>

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Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Cameron Childress]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Cameron Childress  wrote:
> I've pinged John Mason, the author of the project.  I suspect it will
> be back online soon.

FYI - it's back up.

http://www.merlinmanager.com

-Cameron

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Re: Best subversion repository

[Gerald Guido]

Thanx for the heads up on the Unfuddle Mylyn connector. Very nice.


G!

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, LRS Scout  wrote:

>
> +1 using unfuddle
>
> They have a pimp mylyn based plug-in for eclipse too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:17 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Best subversion repository
>
>
> I use Unfuddle and I like it a lot. Most of my projects fit within the 200
> meg limit for free accounts. You are right, it does fill up fast especially
> if you are working with large(ish) documents like things like MS Office
> docs, PSD's and Illustrator files.
>
> IIRC the last time you asked about this you said that you were msotly
> versioning stuff like Word docs and such. If that is the case you may wish
> to consider services like Box.net that offer butt loads of storage as well
> as document versioning on the cheap.  Box.net's has versioning with it's
> business plan w/15 gigs for $15/mo.  and a 2 gig file size limit.
>
> Just throwing it out there.
>
> G!
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
> mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm looking at offsite subversion repositories and I'd like to hear
> > the pros and cons from people who may have used them. The question is
> > more towards tools and usage than anything else. This is what I have:
> >
> > Assembla - no real free account, needs the $49 account to be
> > effective, what are the tools like?
> > Beanstalk - free account, lowest cost ($15) is effective for use, not
> many
> > tools
> > unfuddle - free account, lowest cost ($9) is effective for use, though
> > it'll fill up fast, looks like a good spread of tools
> > codespaces - no free account, lowest cost ($2.99) is effective for
> > use, looks like it has a LOT of tools
> > xp-dev - free account (with ads), lowest cost ($5) is effective for
> > use, looks like a lot of tools
> >
> > The free xp-dev or unfuddle both look like something that anyone
> > should get into using. The minimum codespaces looks better than either
> > of the free options. The minimum xp-dev has so much unlimited (users,
> > projects, etc.) that it kind of blows the others away. So which is
> > best? Which has the best tools (in your opinion). Step up to the plate
> > and let us all know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Michael Dinowitz
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Custom 404 Page

[Andy Matthews]

I think your best bet is to change your 404 handler to point to a coldfusion
page. Then it can handle everything.

404.cfm 

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Subject: Custom 404 Page


Hi,

I put a custom 404 error page in IIS. I works for everything, except CF
pages. 

How do I also cf pages which are not found to display my 404 page?




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Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Cameron Childress]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brandon  wrote:
> It worked for me a few days ago.

I've pinged John Mason, the author of the project.  I suspect it will
be back online soon.

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RE: Custom 404 Page

[Robert Harrison]

Nevermind found a great answer to this on Ben Nadel's site at
http://www.bennadel.com/blog/286-Handling-404-Errors-in-ColdFusion-via-IIS-T
hrowing-404-.htm 

Thanks Ben!


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Custom 404 Page

[Robert Harrison]

Hi,

I put a custom 404 error page in IIS. I works for everything, except CF
pages. 

How do I also cf pages which are not found to display my 404 page?




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Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Gerald Guido]

I DL'ed the whole thing including the CFC's for 7,8 and 9 and the docs.

I can throw them up on the web for you if you want.

G!

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> So public that the website doesn't work.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cft...@fusionlink.com [mailto:cft...@fusionlink.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 4:08 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public
>
>
> The Merlin Manager project I demo at CFUnited is now on its first public
> release as version 1.0.1.
>
> It is completely free to use and the CFCs are now open source under the GPL
> version 3 license. The AIR client is not open source yet. That may happen
> in
> the future. For service and support there is an optional annual $85.00
> service fee.
>
> If you haven't heard of Merlin yet. There is a online demo at
> http://www.merlinmanager.com. It is a management and monitoring system for
> ColdFusion servers. Unlike Adobe's CF 9  Manager, Merlin works on
> ColdFusion
> 7, 8 and 9. It also has monitoring for versions 8 & 9. With Merlin you can
> save server configuration snapshots and restore them across multiple
> servers. It also includes a handy update and patch management system to
> keep
> your systems up-to-date.
>
> You can download Merlin at:
> http://www.merlinmanager.com
>
> John
> ma...@fusionlink.com
> twitter: john_mason_
> blog: codfusion.com
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: SOT: "most important" CFML framework

[Cameron Childress]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Hugo Ahlenius
 wrote:
> So how do you add up those percentages? Something is fishy there -
> was it possible to select multiple options?

I'd hope multiple options were available.  It's extremely common for
more than one framework to be used across all of a company's various
apps.

> It is a bit odd that Transfer
> and Coldspring are in there, since they are not application frameworks.

Here is a revised version for you.

Mach-ii: 12%
Model-Glue: 19%
Fusebox: 51%
ColdBox: 20%
Other: 20%

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Re: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Brandon]

It worked for me a few days ago.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> So public that the website doesn't work.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cft...@fusionlink.com [mailto:cft...@fusionlink.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 4:08 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public
>
>
> The Merlin Manager project I demo at CFUnited is now on its first public
> release as version 1.0.1.
>
> It is completely free to use and the CFCs are now open source under the GPL
> version 3 license. The AIR client is not open source yet. That may happen
> in
> the future. For service and support there is an optional annual $85.00
> service fee.
>
> If you haven't heard of Merlin yet. There is a online demo at
> http://www.merlinmanager.com. It is a management and monitoring system for
> ColdFusion servers. Unlike Adobe's CF 9  Manager, Merlin works on
> ColdFusion
> 7, 8 and 9. It also has monitoring for versions 8 & 9. With Merlin you can
> save server configuration snapshots and restore them across multiple
> servers. It also includes a handy update and patch management system to
> keep
> your systems up-to-date.
>
> You can download Merlin at:
> http://www.merlinmanager.com
>
> John
> ma...@fusionlink.com
> twitter: john_mason_
> blog: codfusion.com
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars

[Kevin Pepperman]

>
> Ask him to stop ?


That is probably the best solution. :)

I'll require him to submit .txt files from now on.

We use the built in richtext editor in cf8+ to handle pasting from Word


We need it to be raw text, and we have specific filtering for Meta
descriptions, page titles etc..(eg. no " in meta description tags so the
XHTML will validate)  --so our CMS limits what can be entered with a
combination of jQuery and server side validations after submitting to a XHR.
So I probably wont be able to use a full RTE for this situation.

Thanks!

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>
> On Thursday 25 Feb 2010, Kevin Pepperman wrote:
> > But recently he has been using a newer version of Word and giving me
> .docx
> >  files.
>
> Ask him to stop ? I would hope he would. Your interchange formats may even
> be
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Re: Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars

[Tom Chiverton]

On Thursday 25 Feb 2010, Kevin Pepperman wrote:
> But recently he has been using a newer version of Word and giving me .docx
>  files.

Ask him to stop ? I would hope he would. Your interchange formats may even be 
specified in the contract


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RE: SOT: "most important" CFML framework

[Hugo Ahlenius]

Adrocknaphobia wrote on 2010-02-25:
> We (Adobe) conducted a survey last September that reached out to
> ColdFusion customers (separately from the online community). Here is the
> breakdown of framework usage. However, I will say that popularity
> doesn't really mean much, nor does it give reliable credit to the
> usefulness of a framework. Remember, for years, Fusebox was the only
> game in town, so there were _a lot_ of application written with it.
> Mach-ii: 12%
> Model-Glue: 19%
> Transfer: 14%
> Fusebox: 51%
> ColdSpring: 33%
> ColdBox: 20%
> Other: 20%

So how do you add up those percentages? Something is fishy there - was it 
possible to select multiple options? It is a bit odd that Transfer and 
Coldspring are in there, since they are not application frameworks.

Cheers,
Hugo


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RE: Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars

[Will Swain]

We use the built in richtext editor in cf8+ to handle pasting from Word, and
it seems to handle it very well. Might be an option. Just 'Paste from Word'
or 'Paste as plain text'

Will

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Pepperman [mailto:chorno...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 February 2010 08:58
To: cf-talk
Subject: Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars


I just wondered if anyone else has seen this before, and I wanted to post
this to help anyone else that has this same issue.

We have an outsourced writer doing textual content for products in a site
that I work on.

The writer always supplies me with the content and I added it via a CMS.

It was always in Microsoft Word format, so I know to strip out special chars
using the DeMoronize UDF found at CFLIB, the function is built into the
CMS.

But recently he has been using a newer version of Word and giving me .docx
 files.

At first I didn't really notice, but recently some of the content has been
indexed by Google and since the text was used in Meta descriptions and the
page titles in places, I started seeing new &#xxx; chars that would not
render in Google that I didn't see before.

When rendered correct on our site, they look exactly like the "smart quotes"
and several other strange things like "..." etc..

The DeMoronize() UDF used to remove these with the chr(n) function, but
these look completely different and were missed by the UDF.

These are the new entities that I am seeing, they show up fine in UTF-8
HTML, but posting them to the CMS was adding them like this to MySql, and
Google would not render them in their results correct.

“ ” ’   ' … ™

The fix for DeMoronize() is simple.

Add these lines.

text = ReReplace(text, "&##8220;", , "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##8221;", , "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##8217;", "'", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##160;", " ", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##39;", "'", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##8230;", "...", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##8482;", "™", "All");


Server notes:

The mySql tables, columns, connections and collation are all
utf-8_unicode_ci,

Application.cfc contains SetEncoding("form","utf-8");
SetEncoding("url","utf-8"); and I am using cfprocessingdirective
pageencoding="UTF-8"

Has anyone else seen this?

-- 
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RE: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public

[Andrew Scott]

So public that the website doesn't work.


-Original Message-
From: cft...@fusionlink.com [mailto:cft...@fusionlink.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 4:08 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Merlin Manager 1.0.1 is now public


The Merlin Manager project I demo at CFUnited is now on its first public
release as version 1.0.1.

It is completely free to use and the CFCs are now open source under the GPL
version 3 license. The AIR client is not open source yet. That may happen in
the future. For service and support there is an optional annual $85.00
service fee.

If you haven't heard of Merlin yet. There is a online demo at
http://www.merlinmanager.com. It is a management and monitoring system for
ColdFusion servers. Unlike Adobe's CF 9  Manager, Merlin works on ColdFusion
7, 8 and 9. It also has monitoring for versions 8 & 9. With Merlin you can
save server configuration snapshots and restore them across multiple
servers. It also includes a handy update and patch management system to keep
your systems up-to-date.

You can download Merlin at:
http://www.merlinmanager.com

John
ma...@fusionlink.com
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RE: ColdFusion - Get All Active Sessions (hosted environment)

[Andrew Scott]

On shared hosting servers, nearly everyone will deny people calling
ColdFusion objects as it poses a security risk.

As others have mentioned, it would be best to role your own. Should be
simple, when a users logs on append it to a list, when they sign our or time
out remove them.



-Original Message-
From: Joshua Rowe [mailto:joshua.r...@varimereweb.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 2:11 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: ColdFusion - Get All Active Sessions (hosted environment)


Hello.  I am trying to grab a collection of all active sessions within my
ColdFusion application.  Running the following code on my local machine is
successful:




and works great!  However, when uploading this to my shared hosting account
with CrystalTech, I receive the following error message:

"Permission denied for creating Java object:
coldfusion.runtime.SessionTracker.
Access to Java objects in the ColdFusion package has been disabled by the
administrator."

Does anybody know of a good way to code around this in a shared hosting
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RE: Best subversion repository

[Andrew Scott]

Michael,

It is going to depend on what you are looking to improve, but value for
money (free) you can't go past these combinations using
Eclipse/CFEclsipe/ColdFusion Builder, Subversive and Myln. The reason that
these two tools go hand in hand is two things. The first is Mylyn can
remember what tasks you are working on, which can connect to Jira, Bug
Tracker and a number of other bug trackers. When I say track you switch
tasks, and it remembers every file that you have worked on for that task.
This is great if you switch between tasks a lot in a day and/or have to
revisit a task some months down the track.

Secondly Subversive others will recommend Subclipse but I have used both and
prefer the former, anyway when using this ticket you need to get whoever
hosts you Subversion (we host it ourselves) to add the subversion plugin.
When that is installed and you have Mylyn tracking a ticket, you can right
mouse on the files you have modified and the ticket number is already added
with some default information. You can modify this, but the point is that
when you commit your files to SVN with the Jira ticket. Any time you log
into Jira, you can see a new tab called subversion commits and you can see a
history of when the files had changed for that ticket.

Also Mylyn allows for you to view the Jira information in the IDE as well,
and I am sure the other bug tracker connectors will do the same. Just that I
am born and breed subversion.

Anyway, this pretty much covers the tools that makes me a more productive
developer. Without them I would be wasting a lot more time than the anything
else.

Also you might want to check this link out, in the top right there is a
webinar button watch this as it will give you a better idea on how these all
work.

http://live.eclipse.org/node/676

HTH
Andrew Scott




-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 February 2010 8:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Best subversion repository


The question is not about using subversion, which most would say is a
requirement for professional development. The question is about which
of the external repositories are the best to use. Which has the best
features. Some of the people replying have said that they only use one
of these resources for subversion and have not used the other
features. It's possible that people doing so don't even know what
other features exist.

I want to know what you know about them. I want to know what'll make
me a more productive developer. Feed me your knowledge. :)

--
Michael Dinowitz



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RE: Best subversion repository

[Andrew Scott]

Have you looked into google code at all Michael?


-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 25 February 2010 5:40 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Best subversion repository


I'm looking at offsite subversion repositories and I'd like to hear
the pros and cons from people who may have used them. The question is
more towards tools and usage than anything else. This is what I have:

Assembla - no real free account, needs the $49 account to be
effective, what are the tools like?
Beanstalk - free account, lowest cost ($15) is effective for use, not many
tools
unfuddle - free account, lowest cost ($9) is effective for use, though
it'll fill up fast, looks like a good spread of tools
codespaces - no free account, lowest cost ($2.99) is effective for
use, looks like it has a LOT of tools
xp-dev - free account (with ads), lowest cost ($5) is effective for
use, looks like a lot of tools

The free xp-dev or unfuddle both look like something that anyone
should get into using. The minimum codespaces looks better than either
of the free options. The minimum xp-dev has so much unlimited (users,
projects, etc.) that it kind of blows the others away. So which is
best? Which has the best tools (in your opinion). Step up to the plate
and let us all know.

Thanks

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Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars

[Kevin Pepperman]

I just wondered if anyone else has seen this before, and I wanted to post
this to help anyone else that has this same issue.

We have an outsourced writer doing textual content for products in a site
that I work on.

The writer always supplies me with the content and I added it via a CMS.

It was always in Microsoft Word format, so I know to strip out special chars
using the DeMoronize UDF found at CFLIB, the function is built into the
CMS.

But recently he has been using a newer version of Word and giving me .docx
 files.

At first I didn't really notice, but recently some of the content has been
indexed by Google and since the text was used in Meta descriptions and the
page titles in places, I started seeing new &#xxx; chars that would not
render in Google that I didn't see before.

When rendered correct on our site, they look exactly like the "smart quotes"
and several other strange things like "..." etc..

The DeMoronize() UDF used to remove these with the chr(n) function, but
these look completely different and were missed by the UDF.

These are the new entities that I am seeing, they show up fine in UTF-8
HTML, but posting them to the CMS was adding them like this to MySql, and
Google would not render them in their results correct.

“ ” ’   ' … ™

The fix for DeMoronize() is simple.

Add these lines.

text = ReReplace(text, "&##8220;", , "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##8221;", , "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##8217;", "'", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##160;", " ", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##39;", "'", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##8230;", "...", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##8482;", "™", "All");


Server notes:

The mySql tables, columns, connections and collation are all
utf-8_unicode_ci,

Application.cfc contains SetEncoding("form","utf-8");
SetEncoding("url","utf-8"); and I am using cfprocessingdirective
pageencoding="UTF-8"

Has anyone else seen this?

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/Kevin Pepperman


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