Re: Form Validation Issue using cfinput AND jquery

2011-02-02 Thread Azadi Saryev

cf forms CAN validate cfselect boxes - you just have to code them properly:
the default/invalid option MUST have its value set to a single space   
( that is [space] )

a common mistake is to set the value to an empty string, which 'breaks' 
cf's built-in validation: any value other than a single space passes the 
validation.

Azadi

On 02/02/2011 01:02 , Kelly Matthews wrote:
 Sorry if this ends up being a dupe post.

 I'm working on a client site that already had a CF Form in place using 
 cfinput and validation via required=yes

 We added some select boxes that are required and as most of you know CF forms 
 don't really validate those. So, I am using jquery to validate the select 
 boxes when the form is submitted.

 The problem I am running into is this: The jquery portion works AND the CF 
 validation errors are thrown as well. But if I fill in all the selects that 
 are validated via jquery and do not to fill in the fields that are being 
 required via cfinput required=yes, the error is thrown but the form still 
 submits.  Is this because of the jquery on submit validation?  Has anyone run 
 into this before, is there an easy fix, outside of moving the cfinput 
 validation into the jquery validation?

 Kelly Matthews
 Web Developer
 http://www.cfwebtools.com
 blog: http://kellymatthews.wordpress.com
 Twitter: @webdiva


 

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Re: Should I build my app as an API?

2011-02-02 Thread Eric Cobb

Have you run into any unexpected road bumps since others started using 
your API?  Naturally, having a solid API able to withstand the traffic 
is essential, but do you have any pointers for anyone wanting to go this 
route?

Thanks,

Eric Cobb
ECAR Technologies, LLC
http://www.ecartech.com
http://www.cfgears.com


On 1/31/2011 8:27 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
 Not high traffic, no. Yes the service is being consumed by a number of other
 businesses. Not many, perhaps a few dozen.



 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com  wrote:

 Thanks Michael,  those were my initial thoughts on this as well.  I'm
 glad to see someone else is doing it successfully.

 Just out of curiosity, are you doing this with any high traffic sites?
 Or, do you have any cases where other people/sites/services are also
 using your API?

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com


 On 1/28/2011 6:49 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
 I've done this approach a number of times and quite like it. The parent
 site
 is just a consumer of your api. You become your own first beta tester and
 helps identify issues before you roll out to the public. Plus if you need
 changes made you make them directly to the api and not just your own
 site.
 That way you can always be sure what you are experiencing is the same as
 what a client is.

 +1 for this approach.

 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com   wrote:

 I'm getting ready to start working on what I hope is to become a pretty
 large side project.  Right now I'm in the planning phases, and one of
 the (eventual) plans is to have a full API that others can use to
 interact with the site.  When thinking about this, I came up with an
 idea that I wanted to run by you guys to get some opinions.

 Instead of taking the usual approach of building the site like I want
 then adding an API to it, what if I were to just build out the API
 first, then build my site off of that API?  Has anyone ever done this,
 or have any ideas on this?

 I'm really hoping to get a good discussion going on this, so please let
 me know what you think!

 --

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com





 

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Re: Should I build my app as an API?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Grant

I have three pieces of advice:

1. Good Documentation
2. Good Documentation
3. Good Documentation

It's probably your best tool when allowing others to access resources you've
built.



On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote:


 Have you run into any unexpected road bumps since others started using
 your API?  Naturally, having a solid API able to withstand the traffic
 is essential, but do you have any pointers for anyone wanting to go this
 route?

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com


 On 1/31/2011 8:27 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
  Not high traffic, no. Yes the service is being consumed by a number of
 other
  businesses. Not many, perhaps a few dozen.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com  wrote:
 
  Thanks Michael,  those were my initial thoughts on this as well.  I'm
  glad to see someone else is doing it successfully.
 
  Just out of curiosity, are you doing this with any high traffic sites?
  Or, do you have any cases where other people/sites/services are also
  using your API?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Eric Cobb
  ECAR Technologies, LLC
  http://www.ecartech.com
  http://www.cfgears.com
 
 
  On 1/28/2011 6:49 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
  I've done this approach a number of times and quite like it. The parent
  site
  is just a consumer of your api. You become your own first beta tester
 and
  helps identify issues before you roll out to the public. Plus if you
 need
  changes made you make them directly to the api and not just your own
  site.
  That way you can always be sure what you are experiencing is the same
 as
  what a client is.
 
  +1 for this approach.
 
  On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com
 wrote:
 
  I'm getting ready to start working on what I hope is to become a
 pretty
  large side project.  Right now I'm in the planning phases, and one of
  the (eventual) plans is to have a full API that others can use to
  interact with the site.  When thinking about this, I came up with an
  idea that I wanted to run by you guys to get some opinions.
 
  Instead of taking the usual approach of building the site like I want
  then adding an API to it, what if I were to just build out the API
  first, then build my site off of that API?  Has anyone ever done this,
  or have any ideas on this?
 
  I'm really hoping to get a good discussion going on this, so please
 let
  me know what you think!
 
  --
 
  Thanks,
 
  Eric Cobb
  ECAR Technologies, LLC
  http://www.ecartech.com
  http://www.cfgears.com
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: Should I build my app as an API?

2011-02-02 Thread Eric Cobb

What is this documentation that you speak of?  Programmers don't need 
directions!  Just connect to it and poke around and see what happens!  ;)

Thanks,

Eric Cobb
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http://www.cfgears.com


On 2/2/2011 8:14 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
 I have three pieces of advice:

 1. Good Documentation
 2. Good Documentation
 3. Good Documentation

 It's probably your best tool when allowing others to access resources you've
 built.



 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com  wrote:

 Have you run into any unexpected road bumps since others started using
 your API?  Naturally, having a solid API able to withstand the traffic
 is essential, but do you have any pointers for anyone wanting to go this
 route?

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com


 On 1/31/2011 8:27 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
 Not high traffic, no. Yes the service is being consumed by a number of
 other
 businesses. Not many, perhaps a few dozen.



 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com   wrote:

 Thanks Michael,  those were my initial thoughts on this as well.  I'm
 glad to see someone else is doing it successfully.

 Just out of curiosity, are you doing this with any high traffic sites?
 Or, do you have any cases where other people/sites/services are also
 using your API?

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com


 On 1/28/2011 6:49 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
 I've done this approach a number of times and quite like it. The parent
 site
 is just a consumer of your api. You become your own first beta tester
 and
 helps identify issues before you roll out to the public. Plus if you
 need
 changes made you make them directly to the api and not just your own
 site.
 That way you can always be sure what you are experiencing is the same
 as
 what a client is.

 +1 for this approach.

 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com
 wrote:
 I'm getting ready to start working on what I hope is to become a
 pretty
 large side project.  Right now I'm in the planning phases, and one of
 the (eventual) plans is to have a full API that others can use to
 interact with the site.  When thinking about this, I came up with an
 idea that I wanted to run by you guys to get some opinions.

 Instead of taking the usual approach of building the site like I want
 then adding an API to it, what if I were to just build out the API
 first, then build my site off of that API?  Has anyone ever done this,
 or have any ideas on this?

 I'm really hoping to get a good discussion going on this, so please
 let
 me know what you think!

 --

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com





 

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Re: Should I build my app as an API?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Grant

Indeed.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote:


 What is this documentation that you speak of?  Programmers don't need
 directions!  Just connect to it and poke around and see what happens!  ;)

 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 ECAR Technologies, LLC
 http://www.ecartech.com
 http://www.cfgears.com


 On 2/2/2011 8:14 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
  I have three pieces of advice:
 
  1. Good Documentation
  2. Good Documentation
  3. Good Documentation
 
  It's probably your best tool when allowing others to access resources
 you've
  built.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com  wrote:
 
  Have you run into any unexpected road bumps since others started using
  your API?  Naturally, having a solid API able to withstand the traffic
  is essential, but do you have any pointers for anyone wanting to go this
  route?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Eric Cobb
  ECAR Technologies, LLC
  http://www.ecartech.com
  http://www.cfgears.com
 
 
  On 1/31/2011 8:27 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
  Not high traffic, no. Yes the service is being consumed by a number of
  other
  businesses. Not many, perhaps a few dozen.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks Michael,  those were my initial thoughts on this as well.  I'm
  glad to see someone else is doing it successfully.
 
  Just out of curiosity, are you doing this with any high traffic sites?
  Or, do you have any cases where other people/sites/services are also
  using your API?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Eric Cobb
  ECAR Technologies, LLC
  http://www.ecartech.com
  http://www.cfgears.com
 
 
  On 1/28/2011 6:49 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
  I've done this approach a number of times and quite like it. The
 parent
  site
  is just a consumer of your api. You become your own first beta tester
  and
  helps identify issues before you roll out to the public. Plus if you
  need
  changes made you make them directly to the api and not just your own
  site.
  That way you can always be sure what you are experiencing is the same
  as
  what a client is.
 
  +1 for this approach.
 
  On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Eric Cobbcft...@ecartech.com
  wrote:
  I'm getting ready to start working on what I hope is to become a
  pretty
  large side project.  Right now I'm in the planning phases, and one
 of
  the (eventual) plans is to have a full API that others can use to
  interact with the site.  When thinking about this, I came up with an
  idea that I wanted to run by you guys to get some opinions.
 
  Instead of taking the usual approach of building the site like I
 want
  then adding an API to it, what if I were to just build out the API
  first, then build my site off of that API?  Has anyone ever done
 this,
  or have any ideas on this?
 
  I'm really hoping to get a good discussion going on this, so please
  let
  me know what you think!
 
  --
 
  Thanks,
 
  Eric Cobb
  ECAR Technologies, LLC
  http://www.ecartech.com
  http://www.cfgears.com
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: Should I build my app as an API?

2011-02-02 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote:


 What is this documentation that you speak of?  Programmers don't need
 directions!  Just connect to it and poke around and see what happens!  ;)



We do this so we can tell others to RTFM!


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Exporting query data

2011-02-02 Thread Richard Steele

Is there an easy way to export SQL query data into a tab delimited or CSV 
format? I know I can do this with a loop and variables, but it seems like there 
should be an easier way. (my query has 100+ column names!). Thanks in advance. 

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Re: Exporting query data

2011-02-02 Thread John M Bliss

http://cflib.org/udf/QueryToCsv

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote:


 Is there an easy way to export SQL query data into a tab delimited or CSV
 format? I know I can do this with a loop and variables, but it seems like
 there should be an easier way. (my query has 100+ column names!). Thanks in
 advance.

 

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Re: Exporting query data

2011-02-02 Thread Mike Chabot

The easiest way is to do this within SQL Server Management Studio. There are
a few methods of exporting data built into that product, all of them easy to
use.

-Mike Chabot

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote:


 Is there an easy way to export SQL query data into a tab delimited or CSV
 format? I know I can do this with a loop and variables, but it seems like
 there should be an easier way. (my query has 100+ column names!). Thanks in
 advance.

 

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Re: Exporting query data

2011-02-02 Thread rex

John's answer is the correct one for doing it on the CF server side.

Here's how I would do it on the SQL server side.  For MySQL:

SELECT * INTO OUTFILE '/location/of/file.csv'
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ','
OPTIONALLY ENCLOSED BY ''
LINES TERMINATED BY '\n'
FROM AnyTable

For MSSQL, it can be simple or complicated:

simple:
 1.  Run your query in SQL Server Management Studio
 2.  Highlight the resultset
 3.  Copy/paste into excel
 4.  Save as CSV

complicated, run BCP command line utility on the SQL Server:

c:\bcp DatabaseName.dbo.TableName out C:\fileLocation.csv -c -t , -S 
SERVERNAME -U username -P password

Have fun!


On 2/2/2011 11:43 AM, John M Bliss wrote:
 http://cflib.org/udf/QueryToCsv

 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Richard Steeler...@photoeye.com  wrote:

 Is there an easy way to export SQL query data into a tab delimited or CSV
 format? I know I can do this with a loop and variables, but it seems like
 there should be an easier way. (my query has 100+ column names!). Thanks in
 advance.


 

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Re: SQL query question

2011-02-02 Thread Sean Henderson

With ColdFusion 9, we ended up replacing all the wildcard selects with actual 
column names, among other fortifications.  We did not experience this issue on 
6.1. 





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Re: Exporting query data

2011-02-02 Thread Larry Lyons

For MSSQL, it can be simple or complicated:

simple:
 1.  Run your query in SQL Server Management Studio
 2.  Highlight the resultset
 3.  Copy/paste into excel
 4.  Save as CSV

Even simpler for step 3 and 4,
 3. right click and select save as CSV. 

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Re: other companies and developers to watch out for

2011-02-02 Thread Alex Puritche

Hello,

Bull_hit.  I  have been working with Adam (Colony One) for more than 5
years. He is tough on negotiations, but once agreement is in place and
as long as one follows his part of the agreement, Adam will follow his
part.

I don't know anything about other guys you list here, as I didn't work
with  them,  but  I  suspect that (as in Adam's case) God made them to
crucify you.



Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 2:07:44 AM, you wrote:


man I ve accepted the fact that I will not probably get another job
man from this list so you know what who cares.  

man So i might as well empty the closet on all those who I think
man have done a lot of damage to our career field.

man companies and developers  to watch out for

man mediaspa - for whatever reason if you get on their bad side watch out

man colony1 - i ve added mr. adams company because he made an
man attempt at trying to crucify me in apublic arena.  i
man tried apologizing to no avail.  i have also worked for adam in
man the past.  i always thought we parted ways on a good note.  guess
man i was wrong.  talk about grudges.

man topofmind - this is an atlanta company that asked to interview
man twice then said we change our minds even though they told me they
man were going to hire me.  heck i tried apologizing too even though they 
wronged me. oh well.

man elliot kayne - another gentleman that said he would hire me then
man backed out.  wish you guys would make up your mind.  by the way
man he runs onlinecorp.com and quickcart.com.  watch out he will string you 
along too.

man superwarehouse.com - rand will talk to you but wont return your
man emails once hes made up his mind.

man ken fergurson - wow .  an oldie but goodie.  even had a few
man people asked about him.  hope you didnt ruin your career either.

man maureen with a gmail address - another attempt at crucifying me.
man seems like a double standard here. you tell me i am disturbing
man you but you call me out in public too.

man I do want to thank the gentleman at Adobe who will remain
man nameless for the free copy of cfbuilder.  Alas it wasn't meant to
man be.  I do think there are more good people than bad, but the bad do leave 
an odor.

man So anyone who may have a question regarding the above I will
man give my perspective.  I know i also hear from some of you but I
man dont really care because lets face i wont get a job from here and
man to be honest i dont think i want one.  

man Mike Firth




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Re: other companies and developers to watch out for

2011-02-02 Thread Teddy R. Payne

Silence is the universal refuge, the sequel to all dull discourses
and all foolish acts, a balm to our every chagrin, as welcome after
satiety as after disappointment.  ~ Henry David Thoreau


On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:47 PM, sherri sonnier slsonn...@gmail.com wrote:

 but some of the reaction seemed to be just as unprofessional

 ABSOLUTELY.  I have formed some not so positive impressions about several
 posters based on their responses.  I never seem to see the email that starts
 the exchanges, but I sure do see the rest.




 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Levi Wallach l...@dvdmon.com wrote:


 I find it fascinating watching these exchanges take place.  I used to code
 with Cold Fusion way back (99-'02) but haven't touched it since, but
 somehow
 remained a member of jobs-talk, but not of the general CF-Talk, probably
 because this list gets generally little traffic.  So I guess I am getting
 only half of the conversation.  It's obvious to me that Michael has annoyed
 a lot of people and doesn't seem to care, but at the same time other
 members
 are so affected by messages that otherwise seem benign, that it seems the
 whole situation has devolved into one that isn't on a professional level
 but
 a personal one.  I wonder, whatever your opinion of Michael is, what good
 does it do to vent about it in a public forum, other than to blow of some
 steam (while at the same time presenting an unprofessional/negative aspect
 of your own demeanor)?

 Being on the Internet for abour 20 years now (and BBS's before that) has
 taught me a few things, some of them certainly useless, but a couple of
 them
 hopefully more useful.  One is that it's hard to guage the tone of someone
 and easy to misunderstand meaning online due to lack of body language, etc.
 Because of this I always try to assume the best of intentions. Even if it's
 hard to see those positive intentions, I often try to keep from responding
 immediately myself if my reaction is strong and negative. Waiting until
 that
 initial emotional reaction has subsided, I can often think much more
 clearly
 and respond in a way that is more constructive than reactive.

 This is not to say that Michael didn't act unprofessionally, but some of
 the
 reaction seemed to be just as unprofessional.  I did not see most of his
 messages on this list (cf-jobs-talk) that I can remember, but if I was
 seeing them on another list and got annoyed, I'd have either - 1) written
 the moderator to express my concerns, or 2) sent Michael a private note
 to express my concerns.  Many of you may have done these things to no
 avail,
 but my final approach would have had 100% success: 3) create an email
 rule/filter to remove his messages.  It's amazing to me that despite
 filtering technology like this being around for 20+ years, that ppl would
 still rather get into long arguments than simply opt out of a certain
 person's messages or discussion topics.  This on a forum of highly
 tech-savvy folks.

 Since none of you probably recognize my name, it should be evident that I
 never post on these lists, and probably won't again for a while if ever,
 but
 something moved me to post about this (and perhaps I'll regret it later),
 so
 that perhaps some perspective from a semi-objective party might be useful
 in
 some way to a few of you.  I know there's some irony in the fact I'm
 suggesting people not speak out here about these things and then doing just
 that, but just know there have been incidents in the past that I've
 considered commenting on but haven't, so pershaps this is just my one
 'gaff'
 that proves my general practices are better than this exception ;-) This is
 really the first time if not ever, than in many years (and memory) that I
 recall posting about an issue like this.  I certainly understand annoyance
 at unprofessional behavior and just idiotic behavior, but I also have
 experienced a lot of real-life passive aggressive stuff so I sometimes
 wonder whether some of the vitriol I see online is due to people who feel
 powerless (or make themselves powerless) to do something about situations
 in
 real life that they are annoyed at/offended by/etc. and so this gets
 transferred to a place they feel a bit more empowered to speak out?  Or
 maybe that's just pop psyche BS, who knows.

 Anyway, I'll shut up now and hope no one takes this personally (although
 I'm
 a bit pessimistic :-( ).

 On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com
 wrote:

 
  Larry, Thanks for the tip. :) I didn't know about this site. :)
 
  On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Use justcoldfusionjobs.com
 
 



 

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Re: this conversation about mediaspa

2011-02-02 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Sorry Cameronyou are 100% correct.I got the OP wrong on my
comment, but the sentiment still stands...

On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 12:48 -0500, Cameron Childress wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Stevenson
 br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote:
  Mike, respectfully, NOBODY has said anything about Cameron's posts
  earlier today (he posted to both CF-Talk and CF-Jobs-Talk).
 
 For the record, that was Christian posting about MediaSpa, not me.  I
 did respond to Mike's email about whether the Atlanta CFUG was having
 a meeting this month or not (we are not).
 
 I'm not sure that The Firthman has ever come to one of our ACFUG
 meetings, but I do very much look forward to the opportunity to meet
 such a colorful personality face to face.
 
 -Cameron
 
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(Admin) Civility and professionalism

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz

This is just a general admin message about civility and professionalism on this 
and other lists. I've had talks with various people about these issues and the 
results have been positive. For those I have not talked with but may have 
concerns in this area, please know that it's been handled. I'd rather not say 
more than that.

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