Re: Alternative to CFOBJECT

2012-08-31 Thread Russ Michaels

yes but only if not using sandboxes.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > cfobject sure, but cfcontent ?
>
> CFCONTENT does pose a significant security risk (information leakage)
> in a shared environment - you can use it to fetch any file that CF can
> read.
>
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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Hostek?

2012-08-31 Thread Maureen

I agree completely about Vivio.  Great folks.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:

>
> >> You **will not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.
>
> 1++ for what Matt said. Hands down the best hosting company I have ever
> dealt with and I have had (and worked for a couple) a lot of hosting
> companies.
>
> G!
>


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Re: Alternative to CFOBJECT

2012-08-31 Thread Dave Watts

> cfobject sure, but cfcontent ?

CFCONTENT does pose a significant security risk (information leakage)
in a shared environment - you can use it to fetch any file that CF can
read.

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Re: Alternative to CFOBJECT

2012-08-31 Thread Russ Michaels

cfobject sure, but cfcontent ?

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
> > well the only reason they could have all those tags disabled is because
> > they do not use security sandboxes, which would imply they are hosting
> with
> > the standard edition of ColdFusion, and tus have to disable any tag which
> > allows files to be read/written from the server.
>
> If that were the case they would disable tags like cffile and
> cfdirectory. Instead, what they have disabled are those tags that
> allows you to instantiate arbitrary Java/COM/.NET classes and run
> executables. (Plus cfdump which uses cfobject internally so would be
> broken if enabled.) Those are the tags that allow you to bypass even a
> properly configured security sandbox.
>
> Unfortunately sandboxes are imperfect and this is the price you pay if
> you have to share an instance with somebody else.
>
> Jochem
>
> --
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>
> 

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Re: Alternative to CFOBJECT

2012-08-31 Thread Bruce Sorge

Her husband is a Major in the Army. She works for DHS.


On Aug 31, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Scott Stewart  wrote:

> 
> She's only about 30 (ish) miles from where I'm living and she must be
> loaded... Great Falls is not a cheap area :)
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I just looked it up and she is in great falls.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Scott Stewart 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Where at in Alexandria?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Alternative to CFOBJECT

2012-08-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
> well the only reason they could have all those tags disabled is because
> they do not use security sandboxes, which would imply they are hosting with
> the standard edition of ColdFusion, and tus have to disable any tag which
> allows files to be read/written from the server.

If that were the case they would disable tags like cffile and
cfdirectory. Instead, what they have disabled are those tags that
allows you to instantiate arbitrary Java/COM/.NET classes and run
executables. (Plus cfdump which uses cfobject internally so would be
broken if enabled.) Those are the tags that allow you to bypass even a
properly configured security sandbox.

Unfortunately sandboxes are imperfect and this is the price you pay if
you have to share an instance with somebody else.

Jochem

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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Hostek?

2012-08-31 Thread Russ Michaels

You can find some good host reviews over at forta.com and brownbook.net
If your in usa i would recommend edge web hosting
If your in uk, give us a try, cfmxhosting.co.uk

Regards
Russ Michaels
On Aug 31, 2012 9:28 PM, ".jonah"  wrote:

>
> Thanks All.
>
>
> On 8/31/12 1:17 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
> >>> You **will not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.
> > 1++ for what Matt said. Hands down the best hosting company I have ever
> > dealt with and I have had (and worked for a couple) a lot of hosting
> > companies.
> >
> > G!
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Matt Quackenbush  >wrote:
> >
> >> I am biased as hell (no, I don't make a penny from my bias), but I would
> >> strongly urge you to have your client go with Vivio instead. You **will
> >> not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.
> >>
> >> https://www.viviotech.net/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Jordan Michaels  >>> wrote:
> >>> The folks at Hostek are good people that I'm proud to call "friends" of
> >>> mine. They know their stuff. I'm confident they can take care of you
> and
> >>> your client.
> >>>
> >>> Warm Regards,
> >>> Jordan Michaels
> >>>
> >>> On 08/30/2012 06:35 PM, .jonah wrote:
>  Hi All,
> 
>  I have a client who's thinking of using Hostek.com for a fairly large
>  Mura site.
> 
>  I don't know anything about them - any experiences / thoughts /
>  recommendations?
> 
>  (Off list is fine too.)
> 
>  Thanks!
>  .jonah
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> 

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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Hostek?

2012-08-31 Thread .jonah

Thanks All.


On 8/31/12 1:17 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
>>> You **will not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.
> 1++ for what Matt said. Hands down the best hosting company I have ever
> dealt with and I have had (and worked for a couple) a lot of hosting
> companies.
>
> G!
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote:
>
>> I am biased as hell (no, I don't make a penny from my bias), but I would
>> strongly urge you to have your client go with Vivio instead. You **will
>> not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.
>>
>> https://www.viviotech.net/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Jordan Michaels >> wrote:
>>> The folks at Hostek are good people that I'm proud to call "friends" of
>>> mine. They know their stuff. I'm confident they can take care of you and
>>> your client.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Jordan Michaels
>>>
>>> On 08/30/2012 06:35 PM, .jonah wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a client who's thinking of using Hostek.com for a fairly large
 Mura site.

 I don't know anything about them - any experiences / thoughts /
 recommendations?

 (Off list is fine too.)

 Thanks!
 .jonah


>>>
>>
> 

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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Hostek?

2012-08-31 Thread Gerald Guido

>> You **will not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.

1++ for what Matt said. Hands down the best hosting company I have ever
dealt with and I have had (and worked for a couple) a lot of hosting
companies.

G!

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote:

>
> I am biased as hell (no, I don't make a penny from my bias), but I would
> strongly urge you to have your client go with Vivio instead. You **will
> not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.
>
> https://www.viviotech.net/
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Jordan Michaels  >wrote:
>
> >
> > The folks at Hostek are good people that I'm proud to call "friends" of
> > mine. They know their stuff. I'm confident they can take care of you and
> > your client.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Jordan Michaels
> >
> > On 08/30/2012 06:35 PM, .jonah wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have a client who's thinking of using Hostek.com for a fairly large
> > > Mura site.
> > >
> > > I don't know anything about them - any experiences / thoughts /
> > > recommendations?
> > >
> > > (Off list is fine too.)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > .jonah
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Hostek?

2012-08-31 Thread Matt Quackenbush

I am biased as hell (no, I don't make a penny from my bias), but I would
strongly urge you to have your client go with Vivio instead. You **will
not** find a better host in the CFML world. Period.

https://www.viviotech.net/


On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote:

>
> The folks at Hostek are good people that I'm proud to call "friends" of
> mine. They know their stuff. I'm confident they can take care of you and
> your client.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Jordan Michaels
>
> On 08/30/2012 06:35 PM, .jonah wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a client who's thinking of using Hostek.com for a fairly large
> > Mura site.
> >
> > I don't know anything about them - any experiences / thoughts /
> > recommendations?
> >
> > (Off list is fine too.)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > .jonah
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Hostek?

2012-08-31 Thread Brian Thornton

I would avoid... I'm glad they are helping the CF community at
tradeshows and conferences but the lack of phone support really is
noticeable compared to the fortune 500 that host CF.\Try Rackspace,
intermedia.net or HostMySite.com

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, .jonah  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a client who's thinking of using Hostek.com for a fairly large
> Mura site.
>
> I don't know anything about them - any experiences / thoughts /
> recommendations?
>
> (Off list is fine too.)
>
> Thanks!
> .jonah
>
> 

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Re: Any way to log every call to stored procedures

2012-08-31 Thread Wil Genovese

I didn't find anything in any of the CF Admin API's for this.  I do think this 
would be a good idea so I added a feature request to the Adobe Bug Base. Voter 
for it if you think this is a good idea.

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3322414

Feature 3322414

Title
ColdFusion 11 - more Debug API features

Description
I would like to be able to access the Debug API to do more than just adjust the 
Debug settings. I'd like to capture the Debug output data so we can do what 
ever we want with it.

A current example is with a massive code base we inherited, there isn't an UML 
or documentation anywhere. There are thousands of stored proces. We'd like to 
be able to log/record all the SP's and queries called on each page (URL) thus 
helping to generate a mapping of things. 

I think more features in the Debug API would allow for this.

Example ideas:
Debug.queries();
Debug.stackTrace();
Debug.scope('session');
Debug.scope('application');

Etc





Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
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On Aug 30, 2012, at 3:06 PM, kbutte...@yahoo.com kbutte...@yahoo.com wrote:

> 
> We have a client for whom we are doing a bunch of refactoring of code. As 
> part of the QA, the client would like to know, for every page, what stored 
> procedures are called and how that page is accessed.
> 
> So what I would like to do is to log the call stack and the stored procedures 
> called for every page.
> 
> That information is in the debug info, so it should be obtainable, but I 
> can't see how.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kathryn 
> 
> 

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Re: convert to cfqueryparam

2012-08-31 Thread daniel kessler

Ah I understand.  Great, thank you. 

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Re: convert to cfqueryparam

2012-08-31 Thread Dave Watts

> I have a line of Oracle pl/sql (9i) where I'm trying to add cfqueryparam in 
> CF7.
>
> I have:
> #iif(len(trim(arguments.inStruct.a_person_id))eq 
> 0,DE("NULL"),DE("#arguments.inStruct.a_person_id#"))#,
>
> a coworker suggested:
>  "CF_SQL_NUMERIC" null="#IIF(len(arguments.inStruct.a_person_id),0,1)#">
>
> But in reviewing it, I cannot tell if that is correct or not.  I've gone over 
> the sql several times.  Also, I don't know DE().

The DE function is kind of confusing, as it's only used within string
evaluation to ... delay that evaluation. So, in your starting case, DE
prevents its string argument from being evaluated as code. (You want
the literal value of arguments.inStruct.a_person_id, not to treat that
value as a CF expression from which you'd later get a literal value.)

Your coworker's suggestion may well be correct, but it can be
simplified. You don't need IIF in this case:



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convert to cfqueryparam

2012-08-31 Thread daniel kessler

I have a line of Oracle pl/sql (9i) where I'm trying to add cfqueryparam in CF7.

I have:
#iif(len(trim(arguments.inStruct.a_person_id))eq 
0,DE("NULL"),DE("#arguments.inStruct.a_person_id#"))#,

a coworker suggested:



But in reviewing it, I cannot tell if that is correct or not.  I've gone over 
the sql several times.  Also, I don't know DE().  

Any information on this is welcome.  Thank you. 

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Re: Alternative to CFOBJECT

2012-08-31 Thread Scott Stewart

She's only about 30 (ish) miles from where I'm living and she must be
loaded... Great Falls is not a cheap area :)

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:

>
> I just looked it up and she is in great falls.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Where at in Alexandria?
> >
>
> 

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